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  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    Sledog said:

    So where is affirmative action in pro sports? You guys would support that right? Seems blacks are way over represented compared to their population as a percentage. Maybe we need the ACLU on this shit!

    Affirmative action is bullshit.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:


    Sledog said:

    If black people commit crimes at a higher rate, and thus are interacting with police more often, wouldn't that be a good starting point for explaining why black people get killed by police officers at a higher rate?

    Ok so this is good, this is a big part of the issue. Do black people commit crimes at a higher rate? Because I've seen multiple studies show whites use illegal drugs at the same rate or higher than blacks. Yet blacks go to jail at like 10 times the rate for drug crimes.

    This is where we get into the whole fucking system being broken and why doing it in front of the flag and anthem means something. You are more likely to be arrested for doing drugs if you are black, that's police. You are more likely to receive a harsher sentence if you are black, that's the justice system. And you are more likely to be convicted if you are black, that's the fucking people.

    Or, if you prefer, you can explain why one race would be more likely to commit crimes than another. I would actually love to see that.
    long drug sentences are for dealing drugs, and all it's attendant sentencing rules, not using. HTH
    Yes @Sledog different crimes have different sentences. How could I have possibly missed that? You've done it, you've proven there is no racism.

    @RaceBannon there will be no progress, no conversation, no movement of consequence as long as you are on the side of these neanderthals. I make that point and that piece of shit comes back with "whites don't deal drugs like niggers do". That's your teammate that said that. And he may not have said it but he said it and we all know he said it.

    Black people are stupid, they're violent and they all sell drugs according to some people on this board. White people are not. But there aren't any racists here. At least that's what they keep telling Sven.
    So you think penalties are race based and blacks get heavier sentences or do you think white guys get less severe sentencing?

    Why does crack have a higher penalty? Because it is more addictive, it's probably the most addictive drug. It's also the most prevalent in the inner city. Stiffer penalties to try and discourage it's use. HTH
    How's that working out?
    Black guys in prison. It's working fine.
    Say what you really think
  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    I support equal rights for everyone. I don't support the divisive, race-baiting tactics of the far left. It's only a matter of time before scum like Soros, Clinton (she's already doing it) and others co-opt this movement and use it as a means to their own ends.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,888 Standard Supporter
    Grabbed this from a friend I have not confirmed the numbers.

    The FBI released its official crime tally for 2016 today, and the data flies in the face of the rhetoric that professional athletes rehearsed in revived Black Lives Matter protests over the weekend. Nearly 900 additional blacks were killed in 2016 compared with 2015, bringing the black homicide-victim total to 7,881. Those 7,881 “black bodies,” in the parlance of Ta-Nehisi Coates, are 1,305 more than the number of white victims (which in this case includes most Hispanics) for the same period, though blacks are only 13 percent of the nation’s population. The increase in black homicide deaths last year comes on top of a previous 900-victim increase between 2014 and 2015.
    Who is killing these black victims? Not whites, and not the police, but other blacks. In 2016, the police fatally shot 233 blacks, the vast majority armed and dangerous, according to the Washington Post. The Post categorized only 16 black male victims of police shootings as “unarmed.” That classification masks assaults against officers and violent resistance to arrest. Contrary to the Black Lives Matter narrative, the police have much more to fear from black males than black males have to fear from the police. In 2015, a police officer was 18.5 times more likely to be killed by a black male than an unarmed black male was to be killed by a police officer. Black males have made up 42 percent of all cop-killers over the last decade, though they are only 6 percent of the population. That 18.5 ratio undoubtedly worsened in 2016, in light of the 53 percent increase in gun murders of officers—committed vastly and disproportionately by black males. Among all homicide suspects whose race was known, white killers of blacks numbered only 243.
    Violent crime has now risen by a significant amount for two consecutive years. The total number of violent crimes rose 4.1 percent in 2016, and estimated homicides rose 8.6 percent. In 2015, violent crime rose by nearly 4 percent and estimated homicides by nearly 11 percent. The last time violence rose two years in a row was 2005–06. The reason for the current increase is what I have called the Ferguson Effect. Cops are backing off of proactive policing in high-crime minority neighborhoods, and criminals are becoming emboldened. Having been told incessantly by politicians, the media, and Black Lives Matter activists that they are bigoted for getting out of their cars and questioning someone loitering on a known drug corner at 2 am, many officers are instead just driving by. Such stops are discretionary; cops don’t have to make them. And when political elites demonize the police for just such proactive policing, we shouldn’t be surprised when cops get the message and do less of it. Seventy-two percent of the nation’s officers say that they and their colleagues are now less willing to stop and question suspicious persons, according to a Pew Research poll released in January. The reason is the persistent anti-cop climate.
    Four studies came out in 2016 alone rebutting the charge that police shootings are racially biased. If there is a bias in police shootings, it works in favor of blacks and against whites. That truth has not stopped the ongoing demonization of the police—including, now, by many of the country’s ignorant professional athletes. The toll will be felt, as always, in the inner city, by the thousands of law-abiding people there who desperately want more police protection.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,082

    Sledog said:


    Sledog said:

    If black people commit crimes at a higher rate, and thus are interacting with police more often, wouldn't that be a good starting point for explaining why black people get killed by police officers at a higher rate?

    Ok so this is good, this is a big part of the issue. Do black people commit crimes at a higher rate? Because I've seen multiple studies show whites use illegal drugs at the same rate or higher than blacks. Yet blacks go to jail at like 10 times the rate for drug crimes.

    This is where we get into the whole fucking system being broken and why doing it in front of the flag and anthem means something. You are more likely to be arrested for doing drugs if you are black, that's police. You are more likely to receive a harsher sentence if you are black, that's the justice system. And you are more likely to be convicted if you are black, that's the fucking people.

    Or, if you prefer, you can explain why one race would be more likely to commit crimes than another. I would actually love to see that.
    long drug sentences are for dealing drugs, and all it's attendant sentencing rules, not using. HTH
    Yes @Sledog different crimes have different sentences. How could I have possibly missed that? You've done it, you've proven there is no racism.

    @RaceBannon there will be no progress, no conversation, no movement of consequence as long as you are on the side of these neanderthals. I make that point and that piece of shit comes back with "whites don't deal drugs like niggers do". That's your teammate that said that. And he may not have said it but he said it and we all know he said it.

    Black people are stupid, they're violent and they all sell drugs according to some people on this board. White people are not. But there aren't any racists here. At least that's what they keep telling Sven.
    So you think penalties are race based and blacks get heavier sentences or do you think white guys get less severe sentencing?

    Why does crack have a higher penalty? Because it is more addictive, it's probably the most addictive drug. It's also the most prevalent in the inner city. Stiffer penalties to try and discourage it's use. HTH
    I thought you were old

    There's a history on sentencing. Flake coke was the cool drug of the 70's and 80's for well off whites

    Crack was sold in bite size bits in the hood and that's why it got the tough sentences and a big part of our crowded prisons over represented by young Black males.
    What does this have to do with getting drunk out on the A line and smoking cloves at the Surf Club?
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,888 Standard Supporter

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:


    Sledog said:

    If black people commit crimes at a higher rate, and thus are interacting with police more often, wouldn't that be a good starting point for explaining why black people get killed by police officers at a higher rate?

    Ok so this is good, this is a big part of the issue. Do black people commit crimes at a higher rate? Because I've seen multiple studies show whites use illegal drugs at the same rate or higher than blacks. Yet blacks go to jail at like 10 times the rate for drug crimes.

    This is where we get into the whole fucking system being broken and why doing it in front of the flag and anthem means something. You are more likely to be arrested for doing drugs if you are black, that's police. You are more likely to receive a harsher sentence if you are black, that's the justice system. And you are more likely to be convicted if you are black, that's the fucking people.

    Or, if you prefer, you can explain why one race would be more likely to commit crimes than another. I would actually love to see that.
    long drug sentences are for dealing drugs, and all it's attendant sentencing rules, not using. HTH
    Yes @Sledog different crimes have different sentences. How could I have possibly missed that? You've done it, you've proven there is no racism.

    @RaceBannon there will be no progress, no conversation, no movement of consequence as long as you are on the side of these neanderthals. I make that point and that piece of shit comes back with "whites don't deal drugs like niggers do". That's your teammate that said that. And he may not have said it but he said it and we all know he said it.

    Black people are stupid, they're violent and they all sell drugs according to some people on this board. White people are not. But there aren't any racists here. At least that's what they keep telling Sven.
    So you think penalties are race based and blacks get heavier sentences or do you think white guys get less severe sentencing?

    Why does crack have a higher penalty? Because it is more addictive, it's probably the most addictive drug. It's also the most prevalent in the inner city. Stiffer penalties to try and discourage it's use. HTH
    How's that working out?
    Black guys in prison. It's working fine.
    Say what you really think
    Bad guys are bad guys I could care less if they were polka dotted.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,888 Standard Supporter

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:


    Sledog said:

    If black people commit crimes at a higher rate, and thus are interacting with police more often, wouldn't that be a good starting point for explaining why black people get killed by police officers at a higher rate?

    Ok so this is good, this is a big part of the issue. Do black people commit crimes at a higher rate? Because I've seen multiple studies show whites use illegal drugs at the same rate or higher than blacks. Yet blacks go to jail at like 10 times the rate for drug crimes.

    This is where we get into the whole fucking system being broken and why doing it in front of the flag and anthem means something. You are more likely to be arrested for doing drugs if you are black, that's police. You are more likely to receive a harsher sentence if you are black, that's the justice system. And you are more likely to be convicted if you are black, that's the fucking people.

    Or, if you prefer, you can explain why one race would be more likely to commit crimes than another. I would actually love to see that.
    long drug sentences are for dealing drugs, and all it's attendant sentencing rules, not using. HTH
    Yes @Sledog different crimes have different sentences. How could I have possibly missed that? You've done it, you've proven there is no racism.

    @RaceBannon there will be no progress, no conversation, no movement of consequence as long as you are on the side of these neanderthals. I make that point and that piece of shit comes back with "whites don't deal drugs like niggers do". That's your teammate that said that. And he may not have said it but he said it and we all know he said it.

    Black people are stupid, they're violent and they all sell drugs according to some people on this board. White people are not. But there aren't any racists here. At least that's what they keep telling Sven.
    So you think penalties are race based and blacks get heavier sentences or do you think white guys get less severe sentencing?

    Why does crack have a higher penalty? Because it is more addictive, it's probably the most addictive drug. It's also the most prevalent in the inner city. Stiffer penalties to try and discourage it's use. HTH
    How's that working out?
    Black guys in prison. It's working fine.
    Say what you really think
    Still waiting for you to poont. But you can't.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    I support equal rights for everyone. I don't support the divisive, race-baiting tactics of the far left. It's only a matter of time before scum like Soros, Clinton (she's already doing it) and others co-opt this movement and use it as a means to their own ends.

    Oh so there aren't racist people in America. Only people calling other people racist.

    Got it.
  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    edited September 2017
    2001400ex said:

    I support equal rights for everyone. I don't support the divisive, race-baiting tactics of the far left. It's only a matter of time before scum like Soros, Clinton (she's already doing it) and others co-opt this movement and use it as a means to their own ends.

    Oh so there aren't racist people in America. Only people calling other people racist.

    Got it.
    There are more people in America calling other people racist than there are racist people in America. The left and its propaganda machines (Washington Post, NY Times, etc.) stoke racial division on purpose. Just look at Boobs. He's convinced everyone who doesn't support the kneelers are racist. He's not an isolated case. His buddies think the same way, they're the guys in Berkeley with black masks and truncheons, trying to beat up anyone who disagrees with their narrative. That's Soros/the Washington Post in action.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    I support equal rights for everyone. I don't support the divisive, race-baiting tactics of the far left. It's only a matter of time before scum like Soros, Clinton (she's already doing it) and others co-opt this movement and use it as a means to their own ends.

    Bullshit
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    I support equal rights for everyone. I don't support the divisive, race-baiting tactics of the far left. It's only a matter of time before scum like Soros, Clinton (she's already doing it) and others co-opt this movement and use it as a means to their own ends.

    Oh so there aren't racist people in America. Only people calling other people racist.

    Got it.
    There are more people in America calling other people racist than there are racist people in America. The left and its propaganda machines (Washington Post, NY Times, etc.) stoke racial division on purpose. Just look at Boobs. He's convinced everyone who doesn't support the kneelers are racist. He's not an isolated case. His buddies think the same way, they're the guys in Berkeley with black masks and truncheons, trying to beat up anyone who disagrees with their narrative. That's Soros/the Washington Post in action.
    You need to get out more.
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,480 Founders Club
    Welp. It appears SledoogFS outed himself as the Grand Wizard.


    I was trying to give the guy the benefit of the doubt, but you have to TRY to be this out of touch with the effects of drug sentencing laws in America the last 3-5 decades.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    pawz said:

    Welp. It appears SledoogFS outed himself as the Grand Wizard.


    I was trying to give the guy the benefit of the doubt, but you have to TRY to be this out of touch with the effects of drug sentencing laws in America the last 3-5 decades.

    Oh shit. You and I agree again.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,888 Standard Supporter
    pawz said:

    Welp. It appears SledoogFS outed himself as the Grand Wizard.


    I was trying to give the guy the benefit of the doubt, but you have to TRY to be this out of touch with the effects of drug sentencing laws in America the last 3-5 decades.

    I'd lock everyone up forever. I don't make the laws or have any control over them. Pointing out why they did it is all.
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,480 Founders Club
    Sledog said:

    pawz said:

    Welp. It appears SledoogFS outed himself as the Grand Wizard.


    I was trying to give the guy the benefit of the doubt, but you have to TRY to be this out of touch with the effects of drug sentencing laws in America the last 3-5 decades.

    I'd lock everyone up forever. I don't make the laws or have any control over them. Pointing out why they did it is all.
    image



    When you study the effects, the real 'why' becomes obvious. It's not the holier-than-thou bullshit espoused by tough-on-crime politicians.



    .
  • backthepack
    backthepack Member Posts: 19,937
    AZDuck said:

    doogie said:

    No, it isn't. But you go ahead and keep telling yourself that if it will avoid another triggered meltdown.

    So why are they kneeling then? I don't really give a fuck about the NFL.
    Because they hate Trump.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,888 Standard Supporter
    pawz said:

    Welp. It appears SledoogFS outed himself as the Grand Wizard.


    I was trying to give the guy the benefit of the doubt, but you have to TRY to be this out of touch with the effects of drug sentencing laws in America the last 3-5 decades.

    I am the wizard of common sense. It's now so rare it should be a super power.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    Sledog said:

    pawz said:

    Welp. It appears SledoogFS outed himself as the Grand Wizard.


    I was trying to give the guy the benefit of the doubt, but you have to TRY to be this out of touch with the effects of drug sentencing laws in America the last 3-5 decades.

    I am the wizard of common sense. It's now so rare it should be a super power.
    Putting black people in chains is common sense to you.

    We get it.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913

    Sledog said:


    Sledog said:

    If black people commit crimes at a higher rate, and thus are interacting with police more often, wouldn't that be a good starting point for explaining why black people get killed by police officers at a higher rate?

    Ok so this is good, this is a big part of the issue. Do black people commit crimes at a higher rate? Because I've seen multiple studies show whites use illegal drugs at the same rate or higher than blacks. Yet blacks go to jail at like 10 times the rate for drug crimes.

    This is where we get into the whole fucking system being broken and why doing it in front of the flag and anthem means something. You are more likely to be arrested for doing drugs if you are black, that's police. You are more likely to receive a harsher sentence if you are black, that's the justice system. And you are more likely to be convicted if you are black, that's the fucking people.

    Or, if you prefer, you can explain why one race would be more likely to commit crimes than another. I would actually love to see that.
    long drug sentences are for dealing drugs, and all it's attendant sentencing rules, not using. HTH
    Yes @Sledog different crimes have different sentences. How could I have possibly missed that? You've done it, you've proven there is no racism.

    @RaceBannon there will be no progress, no conversation, no movement of consequence as long as you are on the side of these neanderthals. I make that point and that piece of shit comes back with "whites don't deal drugs like niggers do". That's your teammate that said that. And he may not have said it but he said it and we all know he said it.

    Black people are stupid, they're violent and they all sell drugs according to some people on this board. White people are not. But there aren't any racists here. At least that's what they keep telling Sven.
    So you think penalties are race based and blacks get heavier sentences or do you think white guys get less severe sentencing?

    Why does crack have a higher penalty? Because it is more addictive, it's probably the most addictive drug. It's also the most prevalent in the inner city. Stiffer penalties to try and discourage it's use. HTH
    I thought you were old

    There's a history on sentencing. Flake coke was the cool drug of the 70's and 80's for well off whites

    Crack was sold in bite size bits in the hood and that's why it got the tough sentences and a big part of our crowded prisons over represented by young Black males.
    As someone who has done both. I can tell you that they don't have the same effect. While both are highly addictive. The smores with the flake don't kick in for an hour or so. While the s'mores with the rock kick in about a minute later. You could easily find and buy a rock on the street for 10 bucks. Whereas the flake was more expensive and usually not moved on the street corner. When you ran out of flake you'd fire a phatty and fall asleep. When the marginalized ran out of rock and money. They'd knock off the liquor store or shoot the dealer and take his stock.
  • backthepack
    backthepack Member Posts: 19,937
    edited September 2017
    salemcoog said:

    Sledog said:


    Sledog said:

    If black people commit crimes at a higher rate, and thus are interacting with police more often, wouldn't that be a good starting point for explaining why black people get killed by police officers at a higher rate?

    Ok so this is good, this is a big part of the issue. Do black people commit crimes at a higher rate? Because I've seen multiple studies show whites use illegal drugs at the same rate or higher than blacks. Yet blacks go to jail at like 10 times the rate for drug crimes.

    This is where we get into the whole fucking system being broken and why doing it in front of the flag and anthem means something. You are more likely to be arrested for doing drugs if you are black, that's police. You are more likely to receive a harsher sentence if you are black, that's the justice system. And you are more likely to be convicted if you are black, that's the fucking people.

    Or, if you prefer, you can explain why one race would be more likely to commit crimes than another. I would actually love to see that.
    long drug sentences are for dealing drugs, and all it's attendant sentencing rules, not using. HTH
    Yes @Sledog different crimes have different sentences. How could I have possibly missed that? You've done it, you've proven there is no racism.

    @RaceBannon there will be no progress, no conversation, no movement of consequence as long as you are on the side of these neanderthals. I make that point and that piece of shit comes back with "whites don't deal drugs like niggers do". That's your teammate that said that. And he may not have said it but he said it and we all know he said it.

    Black people are stupid, they're violent and they all sell drugs according to some people on this board. White people are not. But there aren't any racists here. At least that's what they keep telling Sven.
    So you think penalties are race based and blacks get heavier sentences or do you think white guys get less severe sentencing?

    Why does crack have a higher penalty? Because it is more addictive, it's probably the most addictive drug. It's also the most prevalent in the inner city. Stiffer penalties to try and discourage it's use. HTH
    I thought you were old

    There's a history on sentencing. Flake coke was the cool drug of the 70's and 80's for well off whites

    Crack was sold in bite size bits in the hood and that's why it got the tough sentences and a big part of our crowded prisons over represented by young Black males.
    As someone who has done both. I can tell you that they don't have the same effect. While both are highly addictive. The smores with the flake don't kick in for an hour or so. While the s'mores with the rock kick in about a minute later. You could easily find and buy a rock on the street for 10 bucks. Whereas the flake was more expensive and usually not moved on the street corner. When you ran out of flake you'd fire a phatty and fall asleep. When the marginalized ran out of rock and money. They'd knock off the liquor store or shoot the dealer and take his stock.
    Of course you've done crack you're from Salem and a Coog. I pray to allah that i don't have to go to the Coog every single night.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,888 Standard Supporter

    Sledog said:

    pawz said:

    Welp. It appears SledoogFS outed himself as the Grand Wizard.


    I was trying to give the guy the benefit of the doubt, but you have to TRY to be this out of touch with the effects of drug sentencing laws in America the last 3-5 decades.

    I am the wizard of common sense. It's now so rare it should be a super power.
    Putting black people in chains is common sense to you.

    We get it.
    Get of the racist shit Sven. Poont out something of STFU.
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,480 Founders Club

    salemcoog said:

    Sledog said:


    Sledog said:

    If black people commit crimes at a higher rate, and thus are interacting with police more often, wouldn't that be a good starting point for explaining why black people get killed by police officers at a higher rate?

    Ok so this is good, this is a big part of the issue. Do black people commit crimes at a higher rate? Because I've seen multiple studies show whites use illegal drugs at the same rate or higher than blacks. Yet blacks go to jail at like 10 times the rate for drug crimes.

    This is where we get into the whole fucking system being broken and why doing it in front of the flag and anthem means something. You are more likely to be arrested for doing drugs if you are black, that's police. You are more likely to receive a harsher sentence if you are black, that's the justice system. And you are more likely to be convicted if you are black, that's the fucking people.

    Or, if you prefer, you can explain why one race would be more likely to commit crimes than another. I would actually love to see that.
    long drug sentences are for dealing drugs, and all it's attendant sentencing rules, not using. HTH
    Yes @Sledog different crimes have different sentences. How could I have possibly missed that? You've done it, you've proven there is no racism.

    @RaceBannon there will be no progress, no conversation, no movement of consequence as long as you are on the side of these neanderthals. I make that point and that piece of shit comes back with "whites don't deal drugs like niggers do". That's your teammate that said that. And he may not have said it but he said it and we all know he said it.

    Black people are stupid, they're violent and they all sell drugs according to some people on this board. White people are not. But there aren't any racists here. At least that's what they keep telling Sven.
    So you think penalties are race based and blacks get heavier sentences or do you think white guys get less severe sentencing?

    Why does crack have a higher penalty? Because it is more addictive, it's probably the most addictive drug. It's also the most prevalent in the inner city. Stiffer penalties to try and discourage it's use. HTH
    I thought you were old

    There's a history on sentencing. Flake coke was the cool drug of the 70's and 80's for well off whites

    Crack was sold in bite size bits in the hood and that's why it got the tough sentences and a big part of our crowded prisons over represented by young Black males.
    As someone who has done both. I can tell you that they don't have the same effect. While both are highly addictive. The smores with the flake don't kick in for an hour or so. While the s'mores with the rock kick in about a minute later. You could easily find and buy a rock on the street for 10 bucks. Whereas the flake was more expensive and usually not moved on the street corner. When you ran out of flake you'd fire a phatty and fall asleep. When the marginalized ran out of rock and money. They'd knock off the liquor store or shoot the dealer and take his stock.
    Of course you've done crack you're from Salem and a Coog. I pray to allah that i don't have to go to the Coog every single night.
    Pressing.

    Run along and let the grownups talk.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,888 Standard Supporter
    salemcoog said:

    Sledog said:


    Sledog said:

    If black people commit crimes at a higher rate, and thus are interacting with police more often, wouldn't that be a good starting point for explaining why black people get killed by police officers at a higher rate?

    Ok so this is good, this is a big part of the issue. Do black people commit crimes at a higher rate? Because I've seen multiple studies show whites use illegal drugs at the same rate or higher than blacks. Yet blacks go to jail at like 10 times the rate for drug crimes.

    This is where we get into the whole fucking system being broken and why doing it in front of the flag and anthem means something. You are more likely to be arrested for doing drugs if you are black, that's police. You are more likely to receive a harsher sentence if you are black, that's the justice system. And you are more likely to be convicted if you are black, that's the fucking people.

    Or, if you prefer, you can explain why one race would be more likely to commit crimes than another. I would actually love to see that.
    long drug sentences are for dealing drugs, and all it's attendant sentencing rules, not using. HTH
    Yes @Sledog different crimes have different sentences. How could I have possibly missed that? You've done it, you've proven there is no racism.

    @RaceBannon there will be no progress, no conversation, no movement of consequence as long as you are on the side of these neanderthals. I make that point and that piece of shit comes back with "whites don't deal drugs like niggers do". That's your teammate that said that. And he may not have said it but he said it and we all know he said it.

    Black people are stupid, they're violent and they all sell drugs according to some people on this board. White people are not. But there aren't any racists here. At least that's what they keep telling Sven.
    So you think penalties are race based and blacks get heavier sentences or do you think white guys get less severe sentencing?

    Why does crack have a higher penalty? Because it is more addictive, it's probably the most addictive drug. It's also the most prevalent in the inner city. Stiffer penalties to try and discourage it's use. HTH
    I thought you were old

    There's a history on sentencing. Flake coke was the cool drug of the 70's and 80's for well off whites

    Crack was sold in bite size bits in the hood and that's why it got the tough sentences and a big part of our crowded prisons over represented by young Black males.
    As someone who has done both. I can tell you that they don't have the same effect. While both are highly addictive. The smores with the flake don't kick in for an hour or so. While the s'mores with the rock kick in about a minute later. You could easily find and buy a rock on the street for 10 bucks. Whereas the flake was more expensive and usually not moved on the street corner. When you ran out of flake you'd fire a phatty and fall asleep. When the marginalized ran out of rock and money. They'd knock off the liquor store or shoot the dealer and take his stock.
    FYI the average number of times most people use crack and become addicted is one.
  • backthepack
    backthepack Member Posts: 19,937
    pawz said:

    salemcoog said:

    Sledog said:


    Sledog said:

    If black people commit crimes at a higher rate, and thus are interacting with police more often, wouldn't that be a good starting point for explaining why black people get killed by police officers at a higher rate?

    Ok so this is good, this is a big part of the issue. Do black people commit crimes at a higher rate? Because I've seen multiple studies show whites use illegal drugs at the same rate or higher than blacks. Yet blacks go to jail at like 10 times the rate for drug crimes.

    This is where we get into the whole fucking system being broken and why doing it in front of the flag and anthem means something. You are more likely to be arrested for doing drugs if you are black, that's police. You are more likely to receive a harsher sentence if you are black, that's the justice system. And you are more likely to be convicted if you are black, that's the fucking people.

    Or, if you prefer, you can explain why one race would be more likely to commit crimes than another. I would actually love to see that.
    long drug sentences are for dealing drugs, and all it's attendant sentencing rules, not using. HTH
    Yes @Sledog different crimes have different sentences. How could I have possibly missed that? You've done it, you've proven there is no racism.

    @RaceBannon there will be no progress, no conversation, no movement of consequence as long as you are on the side of these neanderthals. I make that point and that piece of shit comes back with "whites don't deal drugs like niggers do". That's your teammate that said that. And he may not have said it but he said it and we all know he said it.

    Black people are stupid, they're violent and they all sell drugs according to some people on this board. White people are not. But there aren't any racists here. At least that's what they keep telling Sven.
    So you think penalties are race based and blacks get heavier sentences or do you think white guys get less severe sentencing?

    Why does crack have a higher penalty? Because it is more addictive, it's probably the most addictive drug. It's also the most prevalent in the inner city. Stiffer penalties to try and discourage it's use. HTH
    I thought you were old

    There's a history on sentencing. Flake coke was the cool drug of the 70's and 80's for well off whites

    Crack was sold in bite size bits in the hood and that's why it got the tough sentences and a big part of our crowded prisons over represented by young Black males.
    As someone who has done both. I can tell you that they don't have the same effect. While both are highly addictive. The smores with the flake don't kick in for an hour or so. While the s'mores with the rock kick in about a minute later. You could easily find and buy a rock on the street for 10 bucks. Whereas the flake was more expensive and usually not moved on the street corner. When you ran out of flake you'd fire a phatty and fall asleep. When the marginalized ran out of rock and money. They'd knock off the liquor store or shoot the dealer and take his stock.
    Of course you've done crack you're from Salem and a Coog. I pray to allah that i don't have to go to the Coog every single night.
    Pressing.

    Run along and let the grownups talk.
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  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,480 Founders Club
    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    pawz said:

    Welp. It appears SledoogFS outed himself as the Grand Wizard.


    I was trying to give the guy the benefit of the doubt, but you have to TRY to be this out of touch with the effects of drug sentencing laws in America the last 3-5 decades.

    I am the wizard of common sense. It's now so rare it should be a super power.
    Putting black people in chains is common sense to you.

    We get it.
    Get of the racist shit Sven. Poont out something of STFU.

    AGAIN, you have to TRY to be this out of touch with the effects of drug sentencing laws in America the last 3-5 decades.

    .
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    pawz said:

    Welp. It appears SledoogFS outed himself as the Grand Wizard.


    I was trying to give the guy the benefit of the doubt, but you have to TRY to be this out of touch with the effects of drug sentencing laws in America the last 3-5 decades.

    I am the wizard of common sense. It's now so rare it should be a super power.
    Putting black people in chains is common sense to you.

    We get it.
    Get of the racist shit Sven. Poont out something of STFU.
    I want you to express what you really think.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913

    salemcoog said:

    Sledog said:


    Sledog said:

    If black people commit crimes at a higher rate, and thus are interacting with police more often, wouldn't that be a good starting point for explaining why black people get killed by police officers at a higher rate?

    Ok so this is good, this is a big part of the issue. Do black people commit crimes at a higher rate? Because I've seen multiple studies show whites use illegal drugs at the same rate or higher than blacks. Yet blacks go to jail at like 10 times the rate for drug crimes.

    This is where we get into the whole fucking system being broken and why doing it in front of the flag and anthem means something. You are more likely to be arrested for doing drugs if you are black, that's police. You are more likely to receive a harsher sentence if you are black, that's the justice system. And you are more likely to be convicted if you are black, that's the fucking people.

    Or, if you prefer, you can explain why one race would be more likely to commit crimes than another. I would actually love to see that.
    long drug sentences are for dealing drugs, and all it's attendant sentencing rules, not using. HTH
    Yes @Sledog different crimes have different sentences. How could I have possibly missed that? You've done it, you've proven there is no racism.

    @RaceBannon there will be no progress, no conversation, no movement of consequence as long as you are on the side of these neanderthals. I make that point and that piece of shit comes back with "whites don't deal drugs like niggers do". That's your teammate that said that. And he may not have said it but he said it and we all know he said it.

    Black people are stupid, they're violent and they all sell drugs according to some people on this board. White people are not. But there aren't any racists here. At least that's what they keep telling Sven.
    So you think penalties are race based and blacks get heavier sentences or do you think white guys get less severe sentencing?

    Why does crack have a higher penalty? Because it is more addictive, it's probably the most addictive drug. It's also the most prevalent in the inner city. Stiffer penalties to try and discourage it's use. HTH
    I thought you were old

    There's a history on sentencing. Flake coke was the cool drug of the 70's and 80's for well off whites

    Crack was sold in bite size bits in the hood and that's why it got the tough sentences and a big part of our crowded prisons over represented by young Black males.
    As someone who has done both. I can tell you that they don't have the same effect. While both are highly addictive. The smores with the flake don't kick in for an hour or so. While the s'mores with the rock kick in about a minute later. You could easily find and buy a rock on the street for 10 bucks. Whereas the flake was more expensive and usually not moved on the street corner. When you ran out of flake you'd fire a phatty and fall asleep. When the marginalized ran out of rock and money. They'd knock off the liquor store or shoot the dealer and take his stock.
    Of course you've done crack you're from Salem and a Coog. I pray to allah that i don't have to go to the Coog every single night.
    Rest easy young one. WDWYA.
  • backthepack
    backthepack Member Posts: 19,937
    salemcoog said:

    salemcoog said:

    Sledog said:


    Sledog said:

    If black people commit crimes at a higher rate, and thus are interacting with police more often, wouldn't that be a good starting point for explaining why black people get killed by police officers at a higher rate?

    Ok so this is good, this is a big part of the issue. Do black people commit crimes at a higher rate? Because I've seen multiple studies show whites use illegal drugs at the same rate or higher than blacks. Yet blacks go to jail at like 10 times the rate for drug crimes.

    This is where we get into the whole fucking system being broken and why doing it in front of the flag and anthem means something. You are more likely to be arrested for doing drugs if you are black, that's police. You are more likely to receive a harsher sentence if you are black, that's the justice system. And you are more likely to be convicted if you are black, that's the fucking people.

    Or, if you prefer, you can explain why one race would be more likely to commit crimes than another. I would actually love to see that.
    long drug sentences are for dealing drugs, and all it's attendant sentencing rules, not using. HTH
    Yes @Sledog different crimes have different sentences. How could I have possibly missed that? You've done it, you've proven there is no racism.

    @RaceBannon there will be no progress, no conversation, no movement of consequence as long as you are on the side of these neanderthals. I make that point and that piece of shit comes back with "whites don't deal drugs like niggers do". That's your teammate that said that. And he may not have said it but he said it and we all know he said it.

    Black people are stupid, they're violent and they all sell drugs according to some people on this board. White people are not. But there aren't any racists here. At least that's what they keep telling Sven.
    So you think penalties are race based and blacks get heavier sentences or do you think white guys get less severe sentencing?

    Why does crack have a higher penalty? Because it is more addictive, it's probably the most addictive drug. It's also the most prevalent in the inner city. Stiffer penalties to try and discourage it's use. HTH
    I thought you were old

    There's a history on sentencing. Flake coke was the cool drug of the 70's and 80's for well off whites

    Crack was sold in bite size bits in the hood and that's why it got the tough sentences and a big part of our crowded prisons over represented by young Black males.
    As someone who has done both. I can tell you that they don't have the same effect. While both are highly addictive. The smores with the flake don't kick in for an hour or so. While the s'mores with the rock kick in about a minute later. You could easily find and buy a rock on the street for 10 bucks. Whereas the flake was more expensive and usually not moved on the street corner. When you ran out of flake you'd fire a phatty and fall asleep. When the marginalized ran out of rock and money. They'd knock off the liquor store or shoot the dealer and take his stock.
    Of course you've done crack you're from Salem and a Coog. I pray to allah that i don't have to go to the Coog every single night.
    Rest easy young one. WDWYA.
    You sound like doogs when Tre'shuan Harrison committed to The Qoocks.