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  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,964 Standard Supporter
    AZDuck said:

    salemcoog said:

    AZDuck said:

    salemcoog said:

    If black people commit crimes at a higher rate, and thus are interacting with police more often, wouldn't that be a good starting point for explaining why black people get killed by police officers at a higher rate?

    Ok so this is good, this is a big part of the issue. Do black people commit crimes at a higher rate? Because I've seen multiple studies show whites use illegal drugs at the same rate or higher than blacks. Yet blacks go to jail at like 10 times the rate for drug crimes.

    This is where we get into the whole fucking system being broken and why doing it in front of the flag and anthem means something. You are more likely to be arrested for doing drugs if you are black, that's police. You are more likely to receive a harsher sentence if you are black, that's the justice system. And you are more likely to be convicted if you are black, that's the fucking people.

    Or, if you prefer, you can explain why one race would be more likely to commit crimes than another. I would actually love to see that.
    When you're a cop, you play the odds.

    When you're stupid black, you get caught by the police doing drugs, When you're not fucking stupid black, you don't get caught doing drugs by the cops.
    huh

    So who's the racist now?
    kinda sounds like you, dude

    image

    You responded to APAG's post about black people, police and the justice system producing disproportionately bad outcomes for black folks by saying "when you're stupid you get caught."

    So I inferred from your post that black = stupid.
    I don't think APAG was saying that, but those disproportionality arguments invite that obvious rebuttal. Hence, the numbers alone don't explain or justify the argument.
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,964 Standard Supporter

    This I know: Most of what we read and hear about "oppression" these days comes from middle-class and upper-middle class people of all races. And academia continues to push it's case that the U.S. is, in fact, a terrible place to live, and we'd all be better under Socialism or Communism, because theoretically, that would eradicate all inequality.

    Pay no mind the the mountainous pile of evidence known as "The Twentieth Century" which refutes those theories and goals. But they have to have something to talk about at Evergreen and Missouri, so they do.

    Racial inequality has nothing to do with socialism/Communism.
    You obviously have not read BLM's Platform.

    Straight Outta Marxism.
  • oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288

    This I know: Most of what we read and hear about "oppression" these days comes from middle-class and upper-middle class people of all races. And academia continues to push it's case that the U.S. is, in fact, a terrible place to live, and we'd all be better under Socialism or Communism, because theoretically, that would eradicate all inequality.

    Pay no mind the the mountainous pile of evidence known as "The Twentieth Century" which refutes those theories and goals. But they have to have something to talk about at Evergreen and Missouri, so they do.

    Worth 100K of student loan debt IMO.
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,964 Standard Supporter

    This I know: Most of what we read and hear about "oppression" these days comes from middle-class and upper-middle class people of all races. And academia continues to push it's case that the U.S. is, in fact, a terrible place to live, and we'd all be better under Socialism or Communism, because theoretically, that would eradicate all inequality.

    Pay no mind the the mountainous pile of evidence known as "The Twentieth Century" which refutes those theories and goals. But they have to have something to talk about at Evergreen and Missouri, so they do.

    Racial inequality has nothing to do with socialism/Communism.
    You obviously have not read BLM's Platform.

    Straight Outta Marxism.
    And credit the political savvy of it's members, aligning themselves with Socialist Bernie and, locally, Sawant. I think the latter is a suicide mission, btw, but BLM was all over that shit, as Sawant was all over them, during election season.
  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,885
    AZDuck said:

    salemcoog said:

    AZDuck said:

    salemcoog said:

    If black people commit crimes at a higher rate, and thus are interacting with police more often, wouldn't that be a good starting point for explaining why black people get killed by police officers at a higher rate?

    Ok so this is good, this is a big part of the issue. Do black people commit crimes at a higher rate? Because I've seen multiple studies show whites use illegal drugs at the same rate or higher than blacks. Yet blacks go to jail at like 10 times the rate for drug crimes.

    This is where we get into the whole fucking system being broken and why doing it in front of the flag and anthem means something. You are more likely to be arrested for doing drugs if you are black, that's police. You are more likely to receive a harsher sentence if you are black, that's the justice system. And you are more likely to be convicted if you are black, that's the fucking people.

    Or, if you prefer, you can explain why one race would be more likely to commit crimes than another. I would actually love to see that.
    When you're a cop, you play the odds.

    When you're stupid black, you get caught by the police doing drugs, When you're not fucking stupid black, you don't get caught doing drugs by the cops.
    huh

    So who's the racist now?
    kinda sounds like you, dude

    image

    You responded to APAG's post about black people, police and the justice system producing disproportionately bad outcomes for black folks by saying "when you're stupid you get caught."

    So I inferred from your post that black = stupid.
    There's plenty of stupid crackers that get caught doing drugs as well.

    So are you saying that only black people are stupid?


    We could play your game all daylong.
  • oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    Black Lives Matter is a racist movement. Imagine the outcry if it were White Lives Matter.
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,964 Standard Supporter

    Black Lives Matter is a racist movement. Imagine the outcry if it were White Lives Matter.

    Now you're just being dumb. Sure, they could've/maybe should've named it "BLM, Too." But if you're playing from a place where you feel ignored and have no seat at the table, and against the backdrop and context of feeling like nobody gives a shit about black lives, then "Hey, Assholes! Black Lives Matter! You know!"

    Don't be a prick about the name.
  • oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    edited September 2017

    Black Lives Matter is a racist movement. Imagine the outcry if it were White Lives Matter.

    Now you're just being dumb. Sure, they could've/maybe should've named it "BLM, Too." But if you're playing from a place where you feel ignored and have no seat at the table, and against the backdrop and context of feeling like nobody gives a shit about black lives, then "Hey, Assholes! Black Lives Matter! You know!"

    Don't be a prick about the name.
    I'm using SJW tactics and screaming 'racist' to illustrate to them how fucking silly their tactics look when they are reversed. Keep up.
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,964 Standard Supporter

    Black Lives Matter is a racist movement. Imagine the outcry if it were White Lives Matter.

    Now you're just being dumb. Sure, they could've/maybe should've named it "BLM, Too." But if you're playing from a place where you feel ignored and have no seat at the table, and against the backdrop and context of feeling like nobody gives a shit about black lives, then "Hey, Assholes! Black Lives Matter! You know!"

    Don't be a prick about the name.
    I'm using SJW tactics and screaming 'racist' to illustrate to them how fucking silly their tactics look when they are reversed. Keep up.
    Don't slide into "I know you are but what am I" territory.

    Hondo owns that space.
  • allpurpleallgoldallpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    salemcoog said:

    AZDuck said:

    salemcoog said:

    AZDuck said:

    salemcoog said:

    If black people commit crimes at a higher rate, and thus are interacting with police more often, wouldn't that be a good starting point for explaining why black people get killed by police officers at a higher rate?

    Ok so this is good, this is a big part of the issue. Do black people commit crimes at a higher rate? Because I've seen multiple studies show whites use illegal drugs at the same rate or higher than blacks. Yet blacks go to jail at like 10 times the rate for drug crimes.

    This is where we get into the whole fucking system being broken and why doing it in front of the flag and anthem means something. You are more likely to be arrested for doing drugs if you are black, that's police. You are more likely to receive a harsher sentence if you are black, that's the justice system. And you are more likely to be convicted if you are black, that's the fucking people.

    Or, if you prefer, you can explain why one race would be more likely to commit crimes than another. I would actually love to see that.
    When you're a cop, you play the odds.

    When you're stupid black, you get caught by the police doing drugs, When you're not fucking stupid black, you don't get caught doing drugs by the cops.
    huh

    So who's the racist now?
    kinda sounds like you, dude

    image

    You responded to APAG's post about black people, police and the justice system producing disproportionately bad outcomes for black folks by saying "when you're stupid you get caught."

    So I inferred from your post that black = stupid.
    There's plenty of stupid crackers that get caught doing drugs as well.

    So are you saying that only black people are stupid?


    We could play your game all daylong.
    You're really stupid.
  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,885

    salemcoog said:

    AZDuck said:

    salemcoog said:

    AZDuck said:

    salemcoog said:

    If black people commit crimes at a higher rate, and thus are interacting with police more often, wouldn't that be a good starting point for explaining why black people get killed by police officers at a higher rate?

    Ok so this is good, this is a big part of the issue. Do black people commit crimes at a higher rate? Because I've seen multiple studies show whites use illegal drugs at the same rate or higher than blacks. Yet blacks go to jail at like 10 times the rate for drug crimes.

    This is where we get into the whole fucking system being broken and why doing it in front of the flag and anthem means something. You are more likely to be arrested for doing drugs if you are black, that's police. You are more likely to receive a harsher sentence if you are black, that's the justice system. And you are more likely to be convicted if you are black, that's the fucking people.

    Or, if you prefer, you can explain why one race would be more likely to commit crimes than another. I would actually love to see that.
    When you're a cop, you play the odds.

    When you're stupid black, you get caught by the police doing drugs, When you're not fucking stupid black, you don't get caught doing drugs by the cops.
    huh

    So who's the racist now?
    kinda sounds like you, dude

    image

    You responded to APAG's post about black people, police and the justice system producing disproportionately bad outcomes for black folks by saying "when you're stupid you get caught."

    So I inferred from your post that black = stupid.
    There's plenty of stupid crackers that get caught doing drugs as well.

    So are you saying that only black people are stupid?


    We could play your game all daylong.
    You're really stupid.
    Well there we have it.
  • pawzpawz Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 20,936 Founders Club
    AZDuck said:

    salemcoog said:

    AZDuck said:

    salemcoog said:

    If black people commit crimes at a higher rate, and thus are interacting with police more often, wouldn't that be a good starting point for explaining why black people get killed by police officers at a higher rate?

    Ok so this is good, this is a big part of the issue. Do black people commit crimes at a higher rate? Because I've seen multiple studies show whites use illegal drugs at the same rate or higher than blacks. Yet blacks go to jail at like 10 times the rate for drug crimes.

    This is where we get into the whole fucking system being broken and why doing it in front of the flag and anthem means something. You are more likely to be arrested for doing drugs if you are black, that's police. You are more likely to receive a harsher sentence if you are black, that's the justice system. And you are more likely to be convicted if you are black, that's the fucking people.

    Or, if you prefer, you can explain why one race would be more likely to commit crimes than another. I would actually love to see that.
    When you're a cop, you play the odds.

    When you're stupid black, you get caught by the police doing drugs, When you're not fucking stupid black, you don't get caught doing drugs by the cops.
    huh

    So who's the racist now?
    kinda sounds like you, dude

    image

    You responded to APAG's post about black people, police and the justice system producing disproportionately bad outcomes for black folks by saying "when you're stupid you get caught."

    So I inferred from your post that black = stupid.
    But still. You admitted to do the inferring. Then you inputted the responsibility back to the cooglet.

    At least you are consistent with the technique used by the media to push the issue. Consistent but not logically sound.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,850 Standard Supporter

    If black people commit crimes at a higher rate, and thus are interacting with police more often, wouldn't that be a good starting point for explaining why black people get killed by police officers at a higher rate?

    Ok so this is good, this is a big part of the issue. Do black people commit crimes at a higher rate? Because I've seen multiple studies show whites use illegal drugs at the same rate or higher than blacks. Yet blacks go to jail at like 10 times the rate for drug crimes.

    This is where we get into the whole fucking system being broken and why doing it in front of the flag and anthem means something. You are more likely to be arrested for doing drugs if you are black, that's police. You are more likely to receive a harsher sentence if you are black, that's the justice system. And you are more likely to be convicted if you are black, that's the fucking people.

    Or, if you prefer, you can explain why one race would be more likely to commit crimes than another. I would actually love to see that.
    long drug sentences are for dealing drugs, and all it's attendant sentencing rules, not using. HTH
  • Mosster47Mosster47 Member Posts: 6,246
    AZDuck said:

    This is why people are kneeling at football gaymes

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    So black people are killed at a much higher rate in conservative states than in liberal states?

    That is both profound and shocking...
  • allpurpleallgoldallpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    Sledog said:

    If black people commit crimes at a higher rate, and thus are interacting with police more often, wouldn't that be a good starting point for explaining why black people get killed by police officers at a higher rate?

    Ok so this is good, this is a big part of the issue. Do black people commit crimes at a higher rate? Because I've seen multiple studies show whites use illegal drugs at the same rate or higher than blacks. Yet blacks go to jail at like 10 times the rate for drug crimes.

    This is where we get into the whole fucking system being broken and why doing it in front of the flag and anthem means something. You are more likely to be arrested for doing drugs if you are black, that's police. You are more likely to receive a harsher sentence if you are black, that's the justice system. And you are more likely to be convicted if you are black, that's the fucking people.

    Or, if you prefer, you can explain why one race would be more likely to commit crimes than another. I would actually love to see that.
    long drug sentences are for dealing drugs, and all it's attendant sentencing rules, not using. HTH
    Yes @Sledog different crimes have different sentences. How could I have possibly missed that? You've done it, you've proven there is no racism.

    @RaceBannon there will be no progress, no conversation, no movement of consequence as long as you are on the side of these neanderthals. I make that point and that piece of shit comes back with "whites don't deal drugs like niggers do". That's your teammate that said that. And he may not have said it but he said it and we all know he said it.

    Black people are stupid, they're violent and they all sell drugs according to some people on this board. White people are not. But there aren't any racists here. At least that's what they keep telling Sven.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    If black people commit crimes at a higher rate, and thus are interacting with police more often, wouldn't that be a good starting point for explaining why black people get killed by police officers at a higher rate?

    Ok so this is good, this is a big part of the issue. Do black people commit crimes at a higher rate? Because I've seen multiple studies show whites use illegal drugs at the same rate or higher than blacks. Yet blacks go to jail at like 10 times the rate for drug crimes.

    This is where we get into the whole fucking system being broken and why doing it in front of the flag and anthem means something. You are more likely to be arrested for doing drugs if you are black, that's police. You are more likely to receive a harsher sentence if you are black, that's the justice system. And you are more likely to be convicted if you are black, that's the fucking people.

    Or, if you prefer, you can explain why one race would be more likely to commit crimes than another. I would actually love to see that.
    That's why cocaine has lesser penalties than heroin or crack.
  • Mosster47Mosster47 Member Posts: 6,246
    Here is my experience on race from a world view; If you ask a black man in America what race he is, he will say black. If you ask a black man what race he is in France will say French. The same is true for England, Germany, Greece, Canada, Brazil, Africa, etc.

    Black people to this day still aren't viewed as simply Americans, by any race including their own. The same holds true for Mexicans, Asians, and Arabs. The Irish, Germans, English, French, and Scottish that all moved here are Americans.

    Like Chris Rock said, a one legged, white bus boy wouldn't trade places with a rich black man. It was true then and it's still true now.
  • oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    edited September 2017


    Sledog said:

    If black people commit crimes at a higher rate, and thus are interacting with police more often, wouldn't that be a good starting point for explaining why black people get killed by police officers at a higher rate?

    Ok so this is good, this is a big part of the issue. Do black people commit crimes at a higher rate? Because I've seen multiple studies show whites use illegal drugs at the same rate or higher than blacks. Yet blacks go to jail at like 10 times the rate for drug crimes.

    This is where we get into the whole fucking system being broken and why doing it in front of the flag and anthem means something. You are more likely to be arrested for doing drugs if you are black, that's police. You are more likely to receive a harsher sentence if you are black, that's the justice system. And you are more likely to be convicted if you are black, that's the fucking people.

    Or, if you prefer, you can explain why one race would be more likely to commit crimes than another. I would actually love to see that.
    long drug sentences are for dealing drugs, and all it's attendant sentencing rules, not using. HTH
    Yes @Sledog different crimes have different sentences. How could I have possibly missed that? You've done it, you've proven there is no racism.

    @RaceBannon there will be no progress, no conversation, no movement of consequence as long as you are on the side of these neanderthals. I make that point and that piece of shit comes back with "whites don't deal drugs like niggers do". That's your teammate that said that. And he may not have said it but he said it and we all know he said it.

    Black people are stupid, they're violent and they all sell drugs according to some people on this board. White people are not. But there aren't any racists here. At least that's what they keep telling Sven.
    Meanwhile, your teammate is coughing up yards, drawing penalties and fumbling the ball on every possession with the faux outrage... @TierbsHsotBoobs

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    When you call 'racist' on every poast that doesn't conform to your viewpoint, you lose credibility. Just like the message you and the NFL players are trying to convey has been lost due to the divisive tactics they chose to use. Yes it's a peaceful protest, but that doesn't mean it's not highly divisive.
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