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  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,919

    If black people commit crimes at a higher rate, and thus are interacting with police more often, wouldn't that be a good starting point for explaining why black people get killed by police officers at a higher rate?

    Ok so this is good, this is a big part of the issue. Do black people commit crimes at a higher rate? Because I've seen multiple studies show whites use illegal drugs at the same rate or higher than blacks. Yet blacks go to jail at like 10 times the rate for drug crimes.

    This is where we get into the whole fucking system being broken and why doing it in front of the flag and anthem means something. You are more likely to be arrested for doing drugs if you are black, that's police. You are more likely to receive a harsher sentence if you are black, that's the justice system. And you are more likely to be convicted if you are black, that's the fucking people.

    Or, if you prefer, you can explain why one race would be more likely to commit crimes than another. I would actually love to see that.
    When you're a cop, you play the odds.

    When you're stupid, you get caught by the police doing drugs, When you're not fucking stupid, you don't get caught doing drugs by the cops.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,447 Founders Club

    If black people commit crimes at a higher rate, and thus are interacting with police more often, wouldn't that be a good starting point for explaining why black people get killed by police officers at a higher rate?

    Ok so this is good, this is a big part of the issue. Do black people commit crimes at a higher rate? Because I've seen multiple studies show whites use illegal drugs at the same rate or higher than blacks. Yet blacks go to jail at like 10 times the rate for drug crimes.

    This is where we get into the whole fucking system being broken and why doing it in front of the flag and anthem means something. You are more likely to be arrested for doing drugs if you are black, that's police. You are more likely to receive a harsher sentence if you are black, that's the justice system. And you are more likely to be convicted if you are black, that's the fucking people.

    Or, if you prefer, you can explain why one race would be more likely to commit crimes than another. I would actually love to see that.
    This is where we could get to if we actually wanted to have a discussion about race.

    There are so many stats floating out there and conceptions and misconceptions that we just talk past each other.

    To us a few current bidness buzz words we need to drill down on the topic and circle back to see where we are at.

    I think a panel with 3 or 4 folks carefully looking at these things could surprise us all and maybe find some solutions other than vote for me every 4 years

    I'll throw this out - if you have competent legal representation you are more likely to avoid prison for drug crimes and even a lot of property crimes.

    If you have a PD you're fucked.

    Let's change that. And make sure when Blacks do come in contact they live long enough to get an attorney
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,447 Founders Club
    salemcoog said:

    If black people commit crimes at a higher rate, and thus are interacting with police more often, wouldn't that be a good starting point for explaining why black people get killed by police officers at a higher rate?

    Ok so this is good, this is a big part of the issue. Do black people commit crimes at a higher rate? Because I've seen multiple studies show whites use illegal drugs at the same rate or higher than blacks. Yet blacks go to jail at like 10 times the rate for drug crimes.

    This is where we get into the whole fucking system being broken and why doing it in front of the flag and anthem means something. You are more likely to be arrested for doing drugs if you are black, that's police. You are more likely to receive a harsher sentence if you are black, that's the justice system. And you are more likely to be convicted if you are black, that's the fucking people.

    Or, if you prefer, you can explain why one race would be more likely to commit crimes than another. I would actually love to see that.
    When you're a cop, you play the odds.

    When you're stupid, you get caught by the police doing drugs, When you're not fucking stupid, you don't get caught doing drugs by the cops.
    If you are at home you are less likely to get popped.

    On the corner you make the departments quota for arrests
  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    salemcoog said:

    If black people commit crimes at a higher rate, and thus are interacting with police more often, wouldn't that be a good starting point for explaining why black people get killed by police officers at a higher rate?

    Ok so this is good, this is a big part of the issue. Do black people commit crimes at a higher rate? Because I've seen multiple studies show whites use illegal drugs at the same rate or higher than blacks. Yet blacks go to jail at like 10 times the rate for drug crimes.

    This is where we get into the whole fucking system being broken and why doing it in front of the flag and anthem means something. You are more likely to be arrested for doing drugs if you are black, that's police. You are more likely to receive a harsher sentence if you are black, that's the justice system. And you are more likely to be convicted if you are black, that's the fucking people.

    Or, if you prefer, you can explain why one race would be more likely to commit crimes than another. I would actually love to see that.
    When you're a cop, you play the odds.

    When you're stupid, you get caught by the police doing drugs, When you're not fucking stupid, you don't get caught doing drugs by the cops.
    See I thought we paid police to protect and serve, not to gamble with people's lives.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    If black people commit crimes at a higher rate, and thus are interacting with police more often, wouldn't that be a good starting point for explaining why black people get killed by police officers at a higher rate?

    Ok so this is good, this is a big part of the issue. Do black people commit crimes at a higher rate? Because I've seen multiple studies show whites use illegal drugs at the same rate or higher than blacks. Yet blacks go to jail at like 10 times the rate for drug crimes.

    This is where we get into the whole fucking system being broken and why doing it in front of the flag and anthem means something. You are more likely to be arrested for doing drugs if you are black, that's police. You are more likely to receive a harsher sentence if you are black, that's the justice system. And you are more likely to be convicted if you are black, that's the fucking people.

    Or, if you prefer, you can explain why one race would be more likely to commit crimes than another. I would actually love to see that.
    This is where we could get to if we actually wanted to have a discussion about race.

    There are so many stats floating out there and conceptions and misconceptions that we just talk past each other.

    To us a few current bidness buzz words we need to drill down on the topic and circle back to see where we are at.

    I think a panel with 3 or 4 folks carefully looking at these things could surprise us all and maybe find some solutions other than vote for me every 4 years

    I'll throw this out - if you have competent legal representation you are more likely to avoid prison for drug crimes and even a lot of property crimes.

    If you have a PD you're fucked.

    Let's change that. And make sure when Blacks do come in contact they live long enough to get an attorney
    Totally agree.

    #Bannon2020
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    salemcoog said:

    If black people commit crimes at a higher rate, and thus are interacting with police more often, wouldn't that be a good starting point for explaining why black people get killed by police officers at a higher rate?

    Ok so this is good, this is a big part of the issue. Do black people commit crimes at a higher rate? Because I've seen multiple studies show whites use illegal drugs at the same rate or higher than blacks. Yet blacks go to jail at like 10 times the rate for drug crimes.

    This is where we get into the whole fucking system being broken and why doing it in front of the flag and anthem means something. You are more likely to be arrested for doing drugs if you are black, that's police. You are more likely to receive a harsher sentence if you are black, that's the justice system. And you are more likely to be convicted if you are black, that's the fucking people.

    Or, if you prefer, you can explain why one race would be more likely to commit crimes than another. I would actually love to see that.
    When you're a cop, you play the odds.

    When you're stupid, you get caught by the police doing drugs, When you're not fucking stupid, you don't get caught doing drugs by the cops.
    Racists love racial profiling.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,051 Standard Supporter
    edited September 2017
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    I really should read the entire thread before I post.
  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    edited September 2017

    salemcoog said:

    If black people commit crimes at a higher rate, and thus are interacting with police more often, wouldn't that be a good starting point for explaining why black people get killed by police officers at a higher rate?

    Ok so this is good, this is a big part of the issue. Do black people commit crimes at a higher rate? Because I've seen multiple studies show whites use illegal drugs at the same rate or higher than blacks. Yet blacks go to jail at like 10 times the rate for drug crimes.

    This is where we get into the whole fucking system being broken and why doing it in front of the flag and anthem means something. You are more likely to be arrested for doing drugs if you are black, that's police. You are more likely to receive a harsher sentence if you are black, that's the justice system. And you are more likely to be convicted if you are black, that's the fucking people.

    Or, if you prefer, you can explain why one race would be more likely to commit crimes than another. I would actually love to see that.
    When you're a cop, you play the odds.

    When you're stupid, you get caught by the police doing drugs, When you're not fucking stupid, you don't get caught doing drugs by the cops.
    Racists love racial profiling.
    Shut your mouth already you fucking chimp. It's already been established that you're too retarded to have a conversation about this topic. Sit on the sidelines with your boy Hondo.
  • Southerndawg
    Southerndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,354 Founders Club

    salemcoog said:

    If black people commit crimes at a higher rate, and thus are interacting with police more often, wouldn't that be a good starting point for explaining why black people get killed by police officers at a higher rate?

    Ok so this is good, this is a big part of the issue. Do black people commit crimes at a higher rate? Because I've seen multiple studies show whites use illegal drugs at the same rate or higher than blacks. Yet blacks go to jail at like 10 times the rate for drug crimes.

    This is where we get into the whole fucking system being broken and why doing it in front of the flag and anthem means something. You are more likely to be arrested for doing drugs if you are black, that's police. You are more likely to receive a harsher sentence if you are black, that's the justice system. And you are more likely to be convicted if you are black, that's the fucking people.

    Or, if you prefer, you can explain why one race would be more likely to commit crimes than another. I would actually love to see that.
    When you're a cop, you play the odds.

    When you're stupid, you get caught by the police doing drugs, When you're not fucking stupid, you don't get caught doing drugs by the cops.
    See I thought we paid police to protect and serve, not to gamble with people's lives.
    Cute adaptation of the LAPD's slogan, snarky, but misses the point.

    Police are paid to enforce laws and to protect law abiding citizens and their property from law breakers. The system works best when law abiding citizens trust law enforcement and vice versa. In some parts of the country, that's a real problem right now.