Treshaun Harrison Update
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Corey Dillon was playing Safety until Shehee got hurt. Just Sayin
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Is this true?Rubberfist said:
Corey Dillon was playing Safety until Shehee got hurt. Just Sayin
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This kid is way too fucking good to lose over something as trivial as where he will play. Get him in and let his position play the fuck out. He, like most teenagers, will likely have an entirely diff view of his world after a year in college.WeakarmCobra said:
i don't know. I will tell the kid hey we will give you a shot at WR but if you don't crack 2 deep we moving you DBTequilla said:Looks like a former Husky Legend made a post on KJV's site today about the Harrison situation ... essentially to paraphrase the whole thing was basically that Harrison sees himself as a WR, we viewed him as a DB, that we agreed to disagree, and that it wasn't because Harrison wasn't OKG.
Here's the thing from my perspective and to further clarify my earlier comments ...
As Vita was so eloquent in explaining during the media days for the Fiesta Bowl things go in order from Team --> Unit --> Me
From the first time I saw Harrison's video, I thought if he embraced it he'd have the potential to have a lengthy career as a DB ... when I saw the video I saw Lawyer Milloy.
As I watched some of his senior video, combined with some comments from @Dennis_DeYoung that were consistent with what I was seeing, you could definitely see a very good option at RB if he was interested in doing that.
However, at WR, I definitely don't see a player better than Spiker/Osborne, better than what we brought in last class, or what we'll bring in in next year's class. In other words, he'd be likely buried in the depth at UW at WR.
Let's be honest for a second here ... if you are going to be a high caliber S, you need to have a certain mindset and toughness to play that position well. If you're going to be a RB, while you get a lot of attention, you have to be prepared to get hit in the process. And with the way teams are utillizing multiple RBs now, the glory gets spread and the hits still keep coming. In contrast, at WR, you have the potential to get all the glory that you get at RB without having to take the same kind of pounding.
He'll end up at Florida St and follow Taggart. Taggart is the ultimate snake oil salesman and him and Oregon were a perfect match for each other. Playing WR in Taggart's offense is like playing a glorified RB. He'll get the ball on WR screens, jet sweeps, etc. without having to take the pounding between the tackles. Whether he has a strong college career or not (and particularly going to FSU, I suspect his potential to be buried in the depth will only increase), playing WR IMO is his worst shot to potentially play in the NFL. But that's fine.
The reason that I compared Harrison to guys like Wroten, etc. to recently come out of Seattle is because the common trait that I see is a lot of the guys have looked to take the easiest path possible in the short-term while ultimately penalizing themselves in the long-term.
This isn't an example of where I really blame Petersen for not landing Harrison. Bringing him in at WR will not make us a better football team comparatively to what we can and will get going forward. At RB, there was probably room for a discussion but Harrison wasn't interested. At S he would have been best served long-term but again wasn't interested. To be an elite team you need guys on the roster that are willing to live by the mantra of Team --> Unit --> Me ... and given how Harrison has gone about his recruitment (which he is more than entitled to do), we're not a good fit for him.
Best of luck to him going forward ... but I personally don't think we'll miss him.
If a hometown kid of his stature is lost because of where we wanted him to play then we don't deserve to get over the hump vs USC, Stanford, Bama, Penn St, etc. -
No but dont let it stand in the way of a good story.AtomicDawg said:
Is this true?Rubberfist said:
Corey Dillon was playing Safety until Shehee got hurt. Just Sayin
Yup it’s true ask @RaceBannon . Shehee was the starter , Dillon was playing safety. -
Dillon was never a S. It’s something Jim Heckman wanted so he pushed for it from his mag.
To be fair, it made some sense in that we had Shehee who was already established. But CD was not interested and came here to play RB.
Shehee got injured and he took over.
Shehee was good, but Corey is better than literally every other RB we’ve ever had... so... -
Yup it’s true ask @RaceBannon . Shehee was the starter , Dillon was playing safety.NeGgaPlEaSe said:
No but dont let it stand in the way of a good story.AtomicDawg said:
Is this true?Rubberfist said:
Corey Dillon was playing Safety until Shehee got hurt. Just Sayin
Were you even alive that season? Tell me about all the reps that Dillon took against asu and BYU at safety. That never happened. He was the back up tailback. Check the box scores and you will see he had carries before taking over vs Arizona. -
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What a load of Stephen A. Bullshit. Who the hell knows what the mindset of Harrison is, what his "toughness" is, or what he truly values out of playing football. You sure as fuck don't. Maybe he wants to play WR because he's a pansy. Or maybe he actually thinks he has the skillset to succeed at that position. But your 5000 words of nonsense don't add anything to the conversation besides adding yet another chapter of your vintage shooting from the hip bullshit.Tequilla said:Looks like a former Husky Legend made a post on KJV's site today about the Harrison situation ... essentially to paraphrase the whole thing was basically that Harrison sees himself as a WR, we viewed him as a DB, that we agreed to disagree, and that it wasn't because Harrison wasn't OKG.
Here's the thing from my perspective and to further clarify my earlier comments ...
As Vita was so eloquent in explaining during the media days for the Fiesta Bowl things go in order from Team --> Unit --> Me
From the first time I saw Harrison's video, I thought if he embraced it he'd have the potential to have a lengthy career as a DB ... when I saw the video I saw Lawyer Milloy.
As I watched some of his senior video, combined with some comments from @Dennis_DeYoung that were consistent with what I was seeing, you could definitely see a very good option at RB if he was interested in doing that.
However, at WR, I definitely don't see a player better than Spiker/Osborne, better than what we brought in last class, or what we'll bring in in next year's class. In other words, he'd be likely buried in the depth at UW at WR.
Let's be honest for a second here ... if you are going to be a high caliber S, you need to have a certain mindset and toughness to play that position well. If you're going to be a RB, while you get a lot of attention, you have to be prepared to get hit in the process. And with the way teams are utillizing multiple RBs now, the glory gets spread and the hits still keep coming. In contrast, at WR, you have the potential to get all the glory that you get at RB without having to take the same kind of pounding.
He'll end up at Florida St and follow Taggart. Taggart is the ultimate snake oil salesman and him and Oregon were a perfect match for each other. Playing WR in Taggart's offense is like playing a glorified RB. He'll get the ball on WR screens, jet sweeps, etc. without having to take the pounding between the tackles. Whether he has a strong college career or not (and particularly going to FSU, I suspect his potential to be buried in the depth will only increase), playing WR IMO is his worst shot to potentially play in the NFL. But that's fine.
The reason that I compared Harrison to guys like Wroten, etc. to recently come out of Seattle is because the common trait that I see is a lot of the guys have looked to take the easiest path possible in the short-term while ultimately penalizing themselves in the long-term.
This isn't an example of where I really blame Petersen for not landing Harrison. Bringing him in at WR will not make us a better football team comparatively to what we can and will get going forward. At RB, there was probably room for a discussion but Harrison wasn't interested. At S he would have been best served long-term but again wasn't interested. To be an elite team you need guys on the roster that are willing to live by the mantra of Team --> Unit --> Me ... and given how Harrison has gone about his recruitment (which he is more than entitled to do), we're not a good fit for him.
Best of luck to him going forward ... but I personally don't think we'll miss him. -
I don't watch their film till they are signed.Tequilla said:Looks like a former Husky Legend made a post on KJV's site today about the Harrison situation ... essentially to paraphrase the whole thing was basically that Harrison sees himself as a WR, we viewed him as a DB, that we agreed to disagree, and that it wasn't because Harrison wasn't OKG.
Here's the thing from my perspective and to further clarify my earlier comments ...
As Vita was so eloquent in explaining during the media days for the Fiesta Bowl things go in order from Team --> Unit --> Me
From the first time I saw Harrison's video, I thought if he embraced it he'd have the potential to have a lengthy career as a DB ... when I saw the video I saw Lawyer Milloy.
As I watched some of his senior video, combined with some comments from @Dennis_DeYoung that were consistent with what I was seeing, you could definitely see a very good option at RB if he was interested in doing that.
However, at WR, I definitely don't see a player better than Spiker/Osborne, better than what we brought in last class, or what we'll bring in in next year's class. In other words, he'd be likely buried in the depth at UW at WR.
Let's be honest for a second here ... if you are going to be a high caliber S, you need to have a certain mindset and toughness to play that position well. If you're going to be a RB, while you get a lot of attention, you have to be prepared to get hit in the process. And with the way teams are utillizing multiple RBs now, the glory gets spread and the hits still keep coming. In contrast, at WR, you have the potential to get all the glory that you get at RB without having to take the same kind of pounding.
He'll end up at Florida St and follow Taggart. Taggart is the ultimate snake oil salesman and him and Oregon were a perfect match for each other. Playing WR in Taggart's offense is like playing a glorified RB. He'll get the ball on WR screens, jet sweeps, etc. without having to take the pounding between the tackles. Whether he has a strong college career or not (and particularly going to FSU, I suspect his potential to be buried in the depth will only increase), playing WR IMO is his worst shot to potentially play in the NFL. But that's fine.
The reason that I compared Harrison to guys like Wroten, etc. to recently come out of Seattle is because the common trait that I see is a lot of the guys have looked to take the easiest path possible in the short-term while ultimately penalizing themselves in the long-term.
This isn't an example of where I really blame Petersen for not landing Harrison. Bringing him in at WR will not make us a better football team comparatively to what we can and will get going forward. At RB, there was probably room for a discussion but Harrison wasn't interested. At S he would have been best served long-term but again wasn't interested. To be an elite team you need guys on the roster that are willing to live by the mantra of Team --> Unit --> Me ... and given how Harrison has gone about his recruitment (which he is more than entitled to do), we're not a good fit for him.
Best of luck to him going forward ... but I personally don't think we'll miss him. -
*doesn'tGreenRiverGatorz said:
What a load of Stephen A. Bullshit. Who the hell knows what the mindset of Harrison is, what his "toughness" is, or what he truly values out of playing football. You sure as fuck don't. Maybe he wants to play WR because he's a pansy. Or maybe he actually thinks he has the skillset to succeed at that position. But your 5000 words of nonsense don't add anything to the conversation besides adding yet another chapter of your vintage shooting from the hip bullshit.Tequilla said:Looks like a former Husky Legend made a post on KJV's site today about the Harrison situation ... essentially to paraphrase the whole thing was basically that Harrison sees himself as a WR, we viewed him as a DB, that we agreed to disagree, and that it wasn't because Harrison wasn't OKG.
Here's the thing from my perspective and to further clarify my earlier comments ...
As Vita was so eloquent in explaining during the media days for the Fiesta Bowl things go in order from Team --> Unit --> Me
From the first time I saw Harrison's video, I thought if he embraced it he'd have the potential to have a lengthy career as a DB ... when I saw the video I saw Lawyer Milloy.
As I watched some of his senior video, combined with some comments from @Dennis_DeYoung that were consistent with what I was seeing, you could definitely see a very good option at RB if he was interested in doing that.
However, at WR, I definitely don't see a player better than Spiker/Osborne, better than what we brought in last class, or what we'll bring in in next year's class. In other words, he'd be likely buried in the depth at UW at WR.
Let's be honest for a second here ... if you are going to be a high caliber S, you need to have a certain mindset and toughness to play that position well. If you're going to be a RB, while you get a lot of attention, you have to be prepared to get hit in the process. And with the way teams are utillizing multiple RBs now, the glory gets spread and the hits still keep coming. In contrast, at WR, you have the potential to get all the glory that you get at RB without having to take the same kind of pounding.
He'll end up at Florida St and follow Taggart. Taggart is the ultimate snake oil salesman and him and Oregon were a perfect match for each other. Playing WR in Taggart's offense is like playing a glorified RB. He'll get the ball on WR screens, jet sweeps, etc. without having to take the pounding between the tackles. Whether he has a strong college career or not (and particularly going to FSU, I suspect his potential to be buried in the depth will only increase), playing WR IMO is his worst shot to potentially play in the NFL. But that's fine.
The reason that I compared Harrison to guys like Wroten, etc. to recently come out of Seattle is because the common trait that I see is a lot of the guys have looked to take the easiest path possible in the short-term while ultimately penalizing themselves in the long-term.
This isn't an example of where I really blame Petersen for not landing Harrison. Bringing him in at WR will not make us a better football team comparatively to what we can and will get going forward. At RB, there was probably room for a discussion but Harrison wasn't interested. At S he would have been best served long-term but again wasn't interested. To be an elite team you need guys on the roster that are willing to live by the mantra of Team --> Unit --> Me ... and given how Harrison has gone about his recruitment (which he is more than entitled to do), we're not a good fit for him.
Best of luck to him going forward ... but I personally don't think we'll miss him. -
Things doogs say for 500 Alex, "We don't want this uber talented in-state athlete bc of [Fill in the blank]."
He's talented. We want him on the roster. Even as out of position depth. -
exactly this. we want him. if it is REALLY over some position bullshit then we should nad-punch everyone that is helping make these decisions.UW_Doog_Bot said:Things doogs say for 500 Alex, "We don't want this uber talented in-state athlete bc of [Fill in the blank]."
He's talented. We want him on the roster. Even as out of position depth. -
This year should be a great example of why we want talented athletes on the roster even if they are riding the bench. Sometimes injuries happen and you have to play the bench.
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Jesus, every thread over 15 pages has fucking aids
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WeakarmCobra said:
Jesus, every thread
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I would not be surprised at all if we start hearing in late January that Harrison has "reconsidered things and has reached out to the UW coaches". Probably something about realizing how important it is to play close to home. It just seems like thescript.gifRhythmicSlappingDawg said:I was sexting with Dennis and according to him Will Harris followed Harrison on the twatters recently.
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"hmmmn ... Florida is really far away ... Willie is kinda slimeish ... I don't wanna go to Oregon anymore ... Hi, Coach Pete? ..."
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Jimmy Lake was asked about the DB recruits on an interview with Softy and he mentioned something like “we could add a couple more during the second signing period”. Take that for what it is. I think he specifically said they could add 3 to 4 more players total.
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Keep working the phones cuntCuntWaffle said:Jimmy Lake was asked about the DB recruits on an interview with Softy and he mentioned something like “we could add a couple more during the second signing period”. Take that for what it is. I think he specifically said they could add 3 to 4 more players total.
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Ahmed could be the best RB in the country. I think Coleman has a shot at the NFL, but by mid season I wished his carries went to Ahmed.Tequilla said:Even at RB ... I don't like Harrison better than Ahmed and we'll likely be taking 2 very high end guys in the 2019 class ... so yeah, he could get buried even if we brought him in as a RB
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Ahmed at 205-210 next year is a gorgeous thought.RoadDawg55 said:
Ahmed could be the best RB in the country. I think Coleman has a shot at the NFL, but by mid season I wished his carries went to Ahmed.Tequilla said:Even at RB ... I don't like Harrison better than Ahmed and we'll likely be taking 2 very high end guys in the 2019 class ... so yeah, he could get buried even if we brought him in as a RB
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I generally don’t ... when I do it’s very passive. Harrison was on TV a few times - specifically against Gordon and I watched parts of that.Ice_Holmvik said:
I don't watch their film till they are signed.Tequilla said:Looks like a former Husky Legend made a post on KJV's site today about the Harrison situation ... essentially to paraphrase the whole thing was basically that Harrison sees himself as a WR, we viewed him as a DB, that we agreed to disagree, and that it wasn't because Harrison wasn't OKG.
Here's the thing from my perspective and to further clarify my earlier comments ...
As Vita was so eloquent in explaining during the media days for the Fiesta Bowl things go in order from Team --> Unit --> Me
From the first time I saw Harrison's video, I thought if he embraced it he'd have the potential to have a lengthy career as a DB ... when I saw the video I saw Lawyer Milloy.
As I watched some of his senior video, combined with some comments from @Dennis_DeYoung that were consistent with what I was seeing, you could definitely see a very good option at RB if he was interested in doing that.
However, at WR, I definitely don't see a player better than Spiker/Osborne, better than what we brought in last class, or what we'll bring in in next year's class. In other words, he'd be likely buried in the depth at UW at WR.
Let's be honest for a second here ... if you are going to be a high caliber S, you need to have a certain mindset and toughness to play that position well. If you're going to be a RB, while you get a lot of attention, you have to be prepared to get hit in the process. And with the way teams are utillizing multiple RBs now, the glory gets spread and the hits still keep coming. In contrast, at WR, you have the potential to get all the glory that you get at RB without having to take the same kind of pounding.
He'll end up at Florida St and follow Taggart. Taggart is the ultimate snake oil salesman and him and Oregon were a perfect match for each other. Playing WR in Taggart's offense is like playing a glorified RB. He'll get the ball on WR screens, jet sweeps, etc. without having to take the pounding between the tackles. Whether he has a strong college career or not (and particularly going to FSU, I suspect his potential to be buried in the depth will only increase), playing WR IMO is his worst shot to potentially play in the NFL. But that's fine.
The reason that I compared Harrison to guys like Wroten, etc. to recently come out of Seattle is because the common trait that I see is a lot of the guys have looked to take the easiest path possible in the short-term while ultimately penalizing themselves in the long-term.
This isn't an example of where I really blame Petersen for not landing Harrison. Bringing him in at WR will not make us a better football team comparatively to what we can and will get going forward. At RB, there was probably room for a discussion but Harrison wasn't interested. At S he would have been best served long-term but again wasn't interested. To be an elite team you need guys on the roster that are willing to live by the mantra of Team --> Unit --> Me ... and given how Harrison has gone about his recruitment (which he is more than entitled to do), we're not a good fit for him.
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If Harrison had an epiphany and decided he was ok with getting a shot initially at WR at UW and if that wasn’t going to work out that he was open to playing either RB or S I’m 100% on board.
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I’d love every talented kid to decide to go to UW and fight through competition ... I’m also realistic to know that kids have all kinds of reasons for choosing a school ...
5-10 years ago you took all the talented kids and worried about things later because too many spots were JAGs ...
Now, we can usually get enough talented players where we can say ok good luck to a talented kid in our backyard that has a different vision ...
Again, and I can’t reiterate this enough, I’d be ecstatic if Harrison chose UW and was open to what worked best down the road. -
You know, in 3-4 years (or less) we're going to be in a position where we'll be able to say "oh well, he'd be a great local recruit ... but we don't have any room ... and i'd rather have that 5* from Mater Dei anyways ..."Tequilla said:I’d love every talented kid to decide to go to UW and fight through competition ... I’m also realistic to know that kids have all kinds of reasons for choosing a school ...
5-10 years ago you took all the talented kids and worried about things later because too many spots were JAGs ...
Now, we can usually get enough talented players where we can say ok good luck to a talented kid in our backyard that has a different vision ...
Again, and I can’t reiterate this enough, I’d be ecstatic if Harrison chose UW and was open to what worked best down the road.
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Because the deeper idea behind the thread is about how players like this should be handled, and the importance of landing a guy like this. It's not necessarily about Tre'Shaun. He's just the kickstarter for the overall discussion.BallzDeep said:He's obviously not coming here no matter what so why is this thread still alive?
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Digging deeper, by @jhfstyle24.jhfstyle24 said:
Because the deeper idea behind the thread is about how players like this should be handled, and the importance of landing a guy like this. It's not necessarily about Tre'Shaun. He's just the kickstarter for the overall discussion.BallzDeep said:He's obviously not coming here no matter what so why is this thread still alive?
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Well I just found out this thread is important to me. Something about this weekend, rhymes with drippy cunt.
