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To me, what Pete's ACTIONS have shown is that he thinks about the program in the type of manner that you'd expect a strong executive to do.
Forget all the BS that you hear with most programs and whatnot. A college football program is a massive operation and successfully delivering results isn't accidental.
Pete has an identity for the program that is visible whether you look at the type of players that we recruit (OKGs), to his expectations for his coaches (be good both at recruiting and player development or game planning depending on what your role is), to what he expects from his defense, to what he largely expects out of his offense (not an accident that the game after ASU we literally ran the ball EVERY SINGLE TIME).
At Boise, recruiting was less about competing for elite players (because they weren't going to Boise anyway) as it was finding guys that could outperform at the WAC/MWC level. Finding guys that were the classic "diamond in the rough" type of players is what they thrived on. Player development mattered. Hence you get guys like Strausser who are unquestionably good position coaches but shit as recruiters. Pete gave them the opportunity to grow into those roles and when they failed, he moved on from them. In a lot of ways Malloe is a great example to contrast against Struasser because while Malloe moved up into the P12 job, he clearly needed to up his recruiting game after the 2017 class. What we saw in the 2018 class shows that he has the drive and desire to continue to improve.
Clearly the results of 2016 and 2017 and our performance in these "big games" that we have ultimately failed in has also gone a long way into changing how Pete's managing the program. Culture matters. There's no question. But culture by itself does not trump talent. His recent comments speaking to the effect that you have to embrace recruiting is beyond telling. That shit didn't happen even 2 years ago.
And moreover, you're seeing this not only embraced as Pete's opinion, but throughout the staff. You don't get K going to Pete offering to take a step back to make sure that Lake stays on staff unless everybody is starting to realize that. You don't see K making all of the effort that he is in recruiting without understanding the importance.
The thing to me that most people don't realize is that these types of things don't happen overnight. Everything has consequences. You don't just immediately fire people without a) giving them the chance to improve and b) recognizing what such a move would have throughout your program from coaches to players. You can see and understand what you need to change in recruiting but it takes time to implement and roll through (normally 12-18 months).
However, when you compare what Pete does and compare that to what you hear/see out of SC and Clay Helton, or the shit that comes out of Eugene, or LOL Tempe with Herm, it's nice knowing that we have an elite coach that is able to walk circles around them. Our success at this point going forward under Pete is far from an accident and sustainable. This is what it is supposed to look and feel like.
If someone posts lemon party maybe this thread will finally get nuked
To me, what Pete's ACTIONS have shown is that he thinks about the program in the type of manner that you'd expect a strong executive to do.
Forget all the BS that you hear with most programs and whatnot. A college football program is a massive operation and successfully delivering results isn't accidental.
Pete has an identity for the program that is visible whether you look at the type of players that we recruit (OKGs), to his expectations for his coaches (be good both at recruiting and player development or game planning depending on what your role is), to what he expects from his defense, to what he largely expects out of his offense (not an accident that the game after ASU we literally ran the ball EVERY SINGLE TIME).
At Boise, recruiting was less about competing for elite players (because they weren't going to Boise anyway) as it was finding guys that could outperform at the WAC/MWC level. Finding guys that were the classic "diamond in the rough" type of players is what they thrived on. Player development mattered. Hence you get guys like Strausser who are unquestionably good position coaches but shit as recruiters. Pete gave them the opportunity to grow into those roles and when they failed, he moved on from them. In a lot of ways Malloe is a great example to contrast against Struasser because while Malloe moved up into the P12 job, he clearly needed to up his recruiting game after the 2017 class. What we saw in the 2018 class shows that he has the drive and desire to continue to improve.
Clearly the results of 2016 and 2017 and our performance in these "big games" that we have ultimately failed in has also gone a long way into changing how Pete's managing the program. Culture matters. There's no question. But culture by itself does not trump talent. His recent comments speaking to the effect that you have to embrace recruiting is beyond telling. That shit didn't happen even 2 years ago.
And moreover, you're seeing this not only embraced as Pete's opinion, but throughout the staff. You don't get K going to Pete offering to take a step back to make sure that Lake stays on staff unless everybody is starting to realize that. You don't see K making all of the effort that he is in recruiting without understanding the importance.
The thing to me that most people don't realize is that these types of things don't happen overnight. Everything has consequences. You don't just immediately fire people without a) giving them the chance to improve and b) recognizing what such a move would have throughout your program from coaches to players. You can see and understand what you need to change in recruiting but it takes time to implement and roll through (normally 12-18 months).
However, when you compare what Pete does and compare that to what you hear/see out of SC and Clay Helton, or the shit that comes out of Eugene, or LOL Tempe with Herm, it's nice knowing that we have an elite coach that is able to walk circles around them. Our success at this point going forward under Pete is far from an accident and sustainable. This is what it is supposed to look and feel like.
So, what you're saying is "less flatbed, more rickshaw?"
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Forget all the BS that you hear with most programs and whatnot. A college football program is a massive operation and successfully delivering results isn't accidental.
Pete has an identity for the program that is visible whether you look at the type of players that we recruit (OKGs), to his expectations for his coaches (be good both at recruiting and player development or game planning depending on what your role is), to what he expects from his defense, to what he largely expects out of his offense (not an accident that the game after ASU we literally ran the ball EVERY SINGLE TIME).
At Boise, recruiting was less about competing for elite players (because they weren't going to Boise anyway) as it was finding guys that could outperform at the WAC/MWC level. Finding guys that were the classic "diamond in the rough" type of players is what they thrived on. Player development mattered. Hence you get guys like Strausser who are unquestionably good position coaches but shit as recruiters. Pete gave them the opportunity to grow into those roles and when they failed, he moved on from them. In a lot of ways Malloe is a great example to contrast against Struasser because while Malloe moved up into the P12 job, he clearly needed to up his recruiting game after the 2017 class. What we saw in the 2018 class shows that he has the drive and desire to continue to improve.
Clearly the results of 2016 and 2017 and our performance in these "big games" that we have ultimately failed in has also gone a long way into changing how Pete's managing the program. Culture matters. There's no question. But culture by itself does not trump talent. His recent comments speaking to the effect that you have to embrace recruiting is beyond telling. That shit didn't happen even 2 years ago.
And moreover, you're seeing this not only embraced as Pete's opinion, but throughout the staff. You don't get K going to Pete offering to take a step back to make sure that Lake stays on staff unless everybody is starting to realize that. You don't see K making all of the effort that he is in recruiting without understanding the importance.
The thing to me that most people don't realize is that these types of things don't happen overnight. Everything has consequences. You don't just immediately fire people without a) giving them the chance to improve and b) recognizing what such a move would have throughout your program from coaches to players. You can see and understand what you need to change in recruiting but it takes time to implement and roll through (normally 12-18 months).
However, when you compare what Pete does and compare that to what you hear/see out of SC and Clay Helton, or the shit that comes out of Eugene, or LOL Tempe with Herm, it's nice knowing that we have an elite coach that is able to walk circles around them. Our success at this point going forward under Pete is far from an accident and sustainable. This is what it is supposed to look and feel like.