Treshaun Harrison Update
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So you're saying they have a strategy that tends to be fast as opposed to the superior strategy which might be seen as more, I don't know slow?Tequilla said:Looks like a former Husky Legend made a post on KJV's site today about the Harrison situation ... essentially to paraphrase the whole thing was basically that Harrison sees himself as a WR, we viewed him as a DB, that we agreed to disagree, and that it wasn't because Harrison wasn't OKG.
Here's the thing from my perspective and to further clarify my earlier comments ...
As Vita was so eloquent in explaining during the media days for the Fiesta Bowl things go in order from Team --> Unit --> Me
From the first time I saw Harrison's video, I thought if he embraced it he'd have the potential to have a lengthy career as a DB ... when I saw the video I saw Lawyer Milloy.
As I watched some of his senior video, combined with some comments from @Dennis_DeYoung that were consistent with what I was seeing, you could definitely see a very good option at RB if he was interested in doing that.
However, at WR, I definitely don't see a player better than Spiker/Osborne, better than what we brought in last class, or what we'll bring in in next year's class. In other words, he'd be likely buried in the depth at UW at WR.
Let's be honest for a second here ... if you are going to be a high caliber S, you need to have a certain mindset and toughness to play that position well. If you're going to be a RB, while you get a lot of attention, you have to be prepared to get hit in the process. And with the way teams are utillizing multiple RBs now, the glory gets spread and the hits still keep coming. In contrast, at WR, you have the potential to get all the glory that you get at RB without having to take the same kind of pounding.
He'll end up at Florida St and follow Taggart. Taggart is the ultimate snake oil salesman and him and Oregon were a perfect match for each other. Playing WR in Taggart's offense is like playing a glorified RB. He'll get the ball on WR screens, jet sweeps, etc. without having to take the pounding between the tackles. Whether he has a strong college career or not (and particularly going to FSU, I suspect his potential to be buried in the depth will only increase), playing WR IMO is his worst shot to potentially play in the NFL. But that's fine.
The reason that I compared Harrison to guys like Wroten, etc. to recently come out of Seattle is because the common trait that I see is a lot of the guys have looked to take the easiest path possible in the short-term while ultimately penalizing themselves in the long-term.
This isn't an example of where I really blame Petersen for not landing Harrison. Bringing him in at WR will not make us a better football team comparatively to what we can and will get going forward. At RB, there was probably room for a discussion but Harrison wasn't interested. At S he would have been best served long-term but again wasn't interested. To be an elite team you need guys on the roster that are willing to live by the mantra of Team --> Unit --> Me ... and given how Harrison has gone about his recruitment (which he is more than entitled to do), we're not a good fit for him.
Best of luck to him going forward ... but I personally don't think we'll miss him. -
i don't know. I will tell the kid hey we will give you a shot at WR but if you don't crack 2 deep we moving you DBTequilla said:Looks like a former Husky Legend made a post on KJV's site today about the Harrison situation ... essentially to paraphrase the whole thing was basically that Harrison sees himself as a WR, we viewed him as a DB, that we agreed to disagree, and that it wasn't because Harrison wasn't OKG.
Here's the thing from my perspective and to further clarify my earlier comments ...
As Vita was so eloquent in explaining during the media days for the Fiesta Bowl things go in order from Team --> Unit --> Me
From the first time I saw Harrison's video, I thought if he embraced it he'd have the potential to have a lengthy career as a DB ... when I saw the video I saw Lawyer Milloy.
As I watched some of his senior video, combined with some comments from @Dennis_DeYoung that were consistent with what I was seeing, you could definitely see a very good option at RB if he was interested in doing that.
However, at WR, I definitely don't see a player better than Spiker/Osborne, better than what we brought in last class, or what we'll bring in in next year's class. In other words, he'd be likely buried in the depth at UW at WR.
Let's be honest for a second here ... if you are going to be a high caliber S, you need to have a certain mindset and toughness to play that position well. If you're going to be a RB, while you get a lot of attention, you have to be prepared to get hit in the process. And with the way teams are utillizing multiple RBs now, the glory gets spread and the hits still keep coming. In contrast, at WR, you have the potential to get all the glory that you get at RB without having to take the same kind of pounding.
He'll end up at Florida St and follow Taggart. Taggart is the ultimate snake oil salesman and him and Oregon were a perfect match for each other. Playing WR in Taggart's offense is like playing a glorified RB. He'll get the ball on WR screens, jet sweeps, etc. without having to take the pounding between the tackles. Whether he has a strong college career or not (and particularly going to FSU, I suspect his potential to be buried in the depth will only increase), playing WR IMO is his worst shot to potentially play in the NFL. But that's fine.
The reason that I compared Harrison to guys like Wroten, etc. to recently come out of Seattle is because the common trait that I see is a lot of the guys have looked to take the easiest path possible in the short-term while ultimately penalizing themselves in the long-term.
This isn't an example of where I really blame Petersen for not landing Harrison. Bringing him in at WR will not make us a better football team comparatively to what we can and will get going forward. At RB, there was probably room for a discussion but Harrison wasn't interested. At S he would have been best served long-term but again wasn't interested. To be an elite team you need guys on the roster that are willing to live by the mantra of Team --> Unit --> Me ... and given how Harrison has gone about his recruitment (which he is more than entitled to do), we're not a good fit for him.
Best of luck to him going forward ... but I personally don't think we'll miss him. -
I like him better than Lowe personally. I would rather have Treshaun.WeakarmCobra said:
i don't know. I will tell the kid hey we will give you a shot at WR but if you don't crack 2 deep we moving you DBTequilla said:Looks like a former Husky Legend made a post on KJV's site today about the Harrison situation ... essentially to paraphrase the whole thing was basically that Harrison sees himself as a WR, we viewed him as a DB, that we agreed to disagree, and that it wasn't because Harrison wasn't OKG.
Here's the thing from my perspective and to further clarify my earlier comments ...
As Vita was so eloquent in explaining during the media days for the Fiesta Bowl things go in order from Team --> Unit --> Me
From the first time I saw Harrison's video, I thought if he embraced it he'd have the potential to have a lengthy career as a DB ... when I saw the video I saw Lawyer Milloy.
As I watched some of his senior video, combined with some comments from @Dennis_DeYoung that were consistent with what I was seeing, you could definitely see a very good option at RB if he was interested in doing that.
However, at WR, I definitely don't see a player better than Spiker/Osborne, better than what we brought in last class, or what we'll bring in in next year's class. In other words, he'd be likely buried in the depth at UW at WR.
Let's be honest for a second here ... if you are going to be a high caliber S, you need to have a certain mindset and toughness to play that position well. If you're going to be a RB, while you get a lot of attention, you have to be prepared to get hit in the process. And with the way teams are utillizing multiple RBs now, the glory gets spread and the hits still keep coming. In contrast, at WR, you have the potential to get all the glory that you get at RB without having to take the same kind of pounding.
He'll end up at Florida St and follow Taggart. Taggart is the ultimate snake oil salesman and him and Oregon were a perfect match for each other. Playing WR in Taggart's offense is like playing a glorified RB. He'll get the ball on WR screens, jet sweeps, etc. without having to take the pounding between the tackles. Whether he has a strong college career or not (and particularly going to FSU, I suspect his potential to be buried in the depth will only increase), playing WR IMO is his worst shot to potentially play in the NFL. But that's fine.
The reason that I compared Harrison to guys like Wroten, etc. to recently come out of Seattle is because the common trait that I see is a lot of the guys have looked to take the easiest path possible in the short-term while ultimately penalizing themselves in the long-term.
This isn't an example of where I really blame Petersen for not landing Harrison. Bringing him in at WR will not make us a better football team comparatively to what we can and will get going forward. At RB, there was probably room for a discussion but Harrison wasn't interested. At S he would have been best served long-term but again wasn't interested. To be an elite team you need guys on the roster that are willing to live by the mantra of Team --> Unit --> Me ... and given how Harrison has gone about his recruitment (which he is more than entitled to do), we're not a good fit for him.
Best of luck to him going forward ... but I personally don't think we'll miss him. -
u forgetting our favorite big back fig/dick newtownAtomicDawg said:
I like him better than Lowe personally. I would rather have Treshaun.WeakarmCobra said:
i don't know. I will tell the kid hey we will give you a shot at WR but if you don't crack 2 deep we moving you DBTequilla said:Looks like a former Husky Legend made a post on KJV's site today about the Harrison situation ... essentially to paraphrase the whole thing was basically that Harrison sees himself as a WR, we viewed him as a DB, that we agreed to disagree, and that it wasn't because Harrison wasn't OKG.
Here's the thing from my perspective and to further clarify my earlier comments ...
As Vita was so eloquent in explaining during the media days for the Fiesta Bowl things go in order from Team --> Unit --> Me
From the first time I saw Harrison's video, I thought if he embraced it he'd have the potential to have a lengthy career as a DB ... when I saw the video I saw Lawyer Milloy.
As I watched some of his senior video, combined with some comments from @Dennis_DeYoung that were consistent with what I was seeing, you could definitely see a very good option at RB if he was interested in doing that.
However, at WR, I definitely don't see a player better than Spiker/Osborne, better than what we brought in last class, or what we'll bring in in next year's class. In other words, he'd be likely buried in the depth at UW at WR.
Let's be honest for a second here ... if you are going to be a high caliber S, you need to have a certain mindset and toughness to play that position well. If you're going to be a RB, while you get a lot of attention, you have to be prepared to get hit in the process. And with the way teams are utillizing multiple RBs now, the glory gets spread and the hits still keep coming. In contrast, at WR, you have the potential to get all the glory that you get at RB without having to take the same kind of pounding.
He'll end up at Florida St and follow Taggart. Taggart is the ultimate snake oil salesman and him and Oregon were a perfect match for each other. Playing WR in Taggart's offense is like playing a glorified RB. He'll get the ball on WR screens, jet sweeps, etc. without having to take the pounding between the tackles. Whether he has a strong college career or not (and particularly going to FSU, I suspect his potential to be buried in the depth will only increase), playing WR IMO is his worst shot to potentially play in the NFL. But that's fine.
The reason that I compared Harrison to guys like Wroten, etc. to recently come out of Seattle is because the common trait that I see is a lot of the guys have looked to take the easiest path possible in the short-term while ultimately penalizing themselves in the long-term.
This isn't an example of where I really blame Petersen for not landing Harrison. Bringing him in at WR will not make us a better football team comparatively to what we can and will get going forward. At RB, there was probably room for a discussion but Harrison wasn't interested. At S he would have been best served long-term but again wasn't interested. To be an elite team you need guys on the roster that are willing to live by the mantra of Team --> Unit --> Me ... and given how Harrison has gone about his recruitment (which he is more than entitled to do), we're not a good fit for him.
Best of luck to him going forward ... but I personally don't think we'll miss him. -
Even at RB ... I don't like Harrison better than Ahmed and we'll likely be taking 2 very high end guys in the 2019 class ... so yeah, he could get buried even if we brought him in as a RB
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@dnc I don't think that FAST or SLOW strategies are superior to each other ... in an ideal world you know how to leverage both strategies at the appropriate point in time.
I think my point was more that Harrison is pursuing the path that he sees fit and more power to him for doing that. He's got no chance of pulling off anything if he doesn't have everything into what he's doing. So if he's half hearted into playing any other position WR is then the right choice for him. -
Why would you compare them to people currently on the roster like Ahmed. You should compare them to what's available to sign at the time with you and try to get the best talent available and let them sort it out on the depth chart.Tequilla said:Even at RB ... I don't like Harrison better than Ahmed and we'll likely be taking 2 very high end guys in the 2019 class ... so yeah, he could get buried even if we brought him in as a RB
We recruited Lowe as a wr/Chico/apb. Give me Harrison at the same position over him. I am not as high on Lowe as most admittedly. I think Harrison is a better version of Kevin smith which I would rather have.
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I’m pissed we aren’t getting Harrison. He’s a dynamic player. He’s a 4.4 guy with size. I think his upside is higher than Spiker’s although we should have really targeted Harrison at RB.
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lol you’re such a retarded slobbering doog.Tequilla said:Dennis ... I usually agree with you regarding in-state kids ...
It may not have been true 5-10 years ago, but if you are an in-state kid that wants it all UW and Pete is a tremendous option ...
If a kid can’t see that ... then you know ... you can’t fix stupid ...
My opinion for a while is that Harrison while talented is just not going to fit in with the whole OKG philosophy ...
Personally, I think Harrison is going to wash out wherever he goes ... take the screenshots -
I don’t live in a world where Harrison has a higher upside than Spiker at WR. Spiker is elite. Harrison is good, but not elite at WR. Plus we have Joe Ngata on his way, hopefully, who literally walks on water and turns that water into wine, then urinates that wine into the mouths of the cum guzzler DBs who can’t guard him.RoadDawg55 said:I’m pissed we aren’t getting Harrison. He’s a dynamic player. He’s a 4.4 guy with size. I think his upside is higher than Spiker’s although we should have really targeted Harrison at RB.
