This is what's wrong with American

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Sad thing is, it's the Republicans always screaming about fake news yet they believe the fake news they want to hear.

Trump won the electoral college, but he lost the popular vote by over 2.8 million votes to Clinton. The president has blamed his popular vote loss on widespread voter fraud, but there is no evidence to support his claim. Still, a new Morning Consult/Politico poll found 47 percent of Republicans believe Trump won the popular vote, while just 42 percent believe Clinton won. Overall, the poll found, 28 percent of voters believe Trump won the popular vote.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/almost-half-republicans-believe-trump-163011933.html

RaceBannon

No one cares

AZDuck

RaceBannon said:

No one cares

disagree

Some of us believe in democracy.

RaceBannon

AZDuck said:

RaceBannon said:

No one cares

disagree

Some of us believe in democracy.

Fuck off

AZDuck

RaceBannon said:

AZDuck said:

RaceBannon said:

No one cares

disagree

Some of us believe in democracy.

Fuck off

What?

The President seems to care - that's why he keeps bringing it up.

doogie

AZDuck said:

RaceBannon said:

No one cares

disagree

Some of us believe in democracy.

Why are you trying so hard to change America into something we've never been?

Kaepsknee

AZDuck said:

RaceBannon said:

No one cares

disagree

Some of us believe in democracy.

Us?. I don't think so.





And we have a Republic, ya useful idiot. Maybe you should stick to Sweden and Trains!!! worship.

doogie

Proof of how modern education has failed our youth.

PurpleThrobber

It is equally naive to deny that at least a portion of those 2.8 Million were illegals or non-registered voters.

I have no idea whether there were more than 2.8 Million illegal votes cast. It could be way more, it could be way less.

RaceBannon

PurpleThrobber said:

It is equally naive to deny that at least a portion of those 2.8 Million were illegals or non-registered voters.

I have no idea whether there were more than 2.8 Million illegal votes cast. It could be way more, it could be way less.

One would think that a concern for democracy would include legal voters.

Pitchfork51

Making sure people who vote are legally doing it is racist

AZDuck

PurpleThrobber said:

It is equally naive to deny that at least a portion of those 2.8 Million were illegals or non-registered voters.

I have no idea whether there were more than 2.8 Million illegal votes cast. It could be way more, it could be way less.

It's a fucking red herring. Republicans have been looking for illegal voters for years, and haven't come up with shit and lied to the courts about it.

Hell, in Texas, they could only prosecute 50 cases of voter fraud over a ten-year period, with a special task force nominated by the Republican Governor looking for it. Mind you, we're talking about millions of votes in a state with a 700-mile border with Mexico.

Just saying illegals voting is a problem, without evidence, doesn't make it one.

YellowSnow

I think we need to bring back the requirement that only property owners can vote. Fuck all you poor ass renters.

RaceBannon

AZDuck said:

PurpleThrobber said:

It is equally naive to deny that at least a portion of those 2.8 Million were illegals or non-registered voters.

I have no idea whether there were more than 2.8 Million illegal votes cast. It could be way more, it could be way less.

It's a fucking red herring. Republicans have been looking for illegal voters for years, and haven't come up with shit and lied to the courts about it.

Hell, in Texas, they could only prosecute 50 cases of voter fraud over a ten-year period, with a special task force nominated by the Republican Governor looking for it. Mind you, we're talking about millions of votes in a state with a 700-mile border with Mexico.

Just saying illegals voting is a problem, without evidence, doesn't make it one.

In order to have evidence you need the desire to look for it which we all know the democrats don't. That in itself is a red flag. In California you can register to vote without proof of citizenship and there are groups to exist to register illegals

If you don't have processes in place to ensure only legals vote you have another giant red flag, not red herring.

In Virginia we have proof and the Governor, a Clinton hack, won't cooperate with th Trump initiative to find out. Red flag, not herring

nationalreview.com/article/448098/virginia-voter-fraud-report-noncitizens-voted-illegally

When a party refuses to cooperate and just mouths shit about red herrings its a red flag.

AZDuck

RaceBannon said:

AZDuck said:

PurpleThrobber said:

It is equally naive to deny that at least a portion of those 2.8 Million were illegals or non-registered voters.

I have no idea whether there were more than 2.8 Million illegal votes cast. It could be way more, it could be way less.

It's a fucking red herring. Republicans have been looking for illegal voters for years, and haven't come up with shit and lied to the courts about it.

Hell, in Texas, they could only prosecute 50 cases of voter fraud over a ten-year period, with a special task force nominated by the Republican Governor looking for it. Mind you, we're talking about millions of votes in a state with a 700-mile border with Mexico.

Just saying illegals voting is a problem, without evidence, doesn't make it one.

In order to have evidence you need the desire to look for it which we all know the democrats don't [already proven false - all those people looking for voter fraud in numerous studies, task forces, etc.] . That in itself is a red flag [huh?]. In California you can register to vote without proof of citizenship and there are groups to exist to register illegals [I went to the SoS website and it said you need a CA license or ID card (requires birth certificate) and your SSN (requires US citizenship or green card)]

So, you are right in the most technical sense. Someone could present a green card and a CA license and vote. Problem is, they will be flashing red whenever the list gets checked, which it does. And then they would be subject to criminal penalties and deportation. Again, it's theoretically possible, but the folks who are looking for it haven't found a problem. So why are we looking to fix something that isn't broken?

If you don't have processes in place to ensure only legals vote you have another giant red flag, not red herring.
The process is the affidavit, sworn under penalty of perjury, that the person completing the application is a US citizen.

In Virginia we have proof and the Governor, a Clinton hack, won't cooperate with the Trump initiative to find out. Red flag, not herring
No, that's Kris Kobach, a known liar and suppressor of minority votes. Almost every state, including many Republican ones agree with Virginia and the Clinton hack

nationalreview.com/article/448098/virginia-voter-fraud-report-noncitizens-voted-illegally

Allegedly, 2,000 illegals voted at some point in the past. 6,000 illegals were registered to vote. Out of 5,000,000 registered voters and 4,000,000 voters in the last election. So the system seems to be working. It's a fringe problem, not a threat to our democracy.


When a party refuses to cooperate and just mouths shit about red herrings its a red flag.

Or, you know, someone making something out of nothing so they can keep the blicks and spacs from voting legally

RaceBannon

AZDuck said:

RaceBannon said:

AZDuck said:

PurpleThrobber said:

It is equally naive to deny that at least a portion of those 2.8 Million were illegals or non-registered voters.

I have no idea whether there were more than 2.8 Million illegal votes cast. It could be way more, it could be way less.

It's a fucking red herring. Republicans have been looking for illegal voters for years, and haven't come up with shit and lied to the courts about it.

Hell, in Texas, they could only prosecute 50 cases of voter fraud over a ten-year period, with a special task force nominated by the Republican Governor looking for it. Mind you, we're talking about millions of votes in a state with a 700-mile border with Mexico.

Just saying illegals voting is a problem, without evidence, doesn't make it one.

In order to have evidence you need the desire to look for it which we all know the democrats don't [already proven false - all those people looking for voter fraud in numerous studies, task forces, etc.] . That in itself is a red flag [huh?]. In California you can register to vote without proof of citizenship and there are groups to exist to register illegals [I went to the SoS website and it said you need a CA license or ID card (requires birth certificate) and your SSN (requires US citizenship or green card)]

So, you are right in the most technical sense. Someone could present a green card and a CA license and vote. Problem is, they will be flashing red whenever the list gets checked, which it does. And then they would be subject to criminal penalties and deportation. Again, it's theoretically possible, but the folks who are looking for it haven't found a problem. So why are we looking to fix something that isn't broken?

If you don't have processes in place to ensure only legals vote you have another giant red flag, not red herring.
The process is the affidavit, sworn under penalty of perjury, that the person completing the application is a US citizen.

In Virginia we have proof and the Governor, a Clinton hack, won't cooperate with the Trump initiative to find out. Red flag, not herring
No, that's Kris Kobach, a known liar and suppressor of minority votes. Almost every state, including many Republican ones agree with Virginia and the Clinton hack

nationalreview.com/article/448098/virginia-voter-fraud-report-noncitizens-voted-illegally

Allegedly, 2,000 illegals voted at some point in the past. 6,000 illegals were registered to vote. Out of 5,000,000 registered voters and 4,000,000 voters in the last election. So the system seems to be working. It's a fringe problem, not a threat to our democracy.


When a party refuses to cooperate and just mouths shit about red herrings its a red flag.

Or, you know, someone making something out of nothing so they can keep the blicks and spacs from voting legally

When you lose the argument pull the race card

I live in California - you are wrong. In Virginia illegals signed the affidavit when they weren't legal

Why are you so interested in not investigating

Red flag

PurpleThrobber

AZDuck said:

PurpleThrobber said:

It is equally naive to deny that at least a portion of those 2.8 Million were illegals or non-registered voters.

I have no idea whether there were more than 2.8 Million illegal votes cast. It could be way more, it could be way less.

It's a fucking red herring. Republicans have been looking for illegal voters for years, and haven't come up with shit and lied to the courts about it.

Hell, in Texas, they could only prosecute 50 cases of voter fraud over a ten-year period, with a special task force nominated by the Republican Governor looking for it. Mind you, we're talking about millions of votes in a state with a 700-mile border with Mexico.

Just saying illegals voting is a problem, without evidence, doesn't make it one.

I got you in the naive column, Holmes.

Southerndawg

PurpleThrobber said:

AZDuck said:

PurpleThrobber said:

It is equally naive to deny that at least a portion of those 2.8 Million were illegals or non-registered voters.

I have no idea whether there were more than 2.8 Million illegal votes cast. It could be way more, it could be way less.

It's a fucking red herring. Republicans have been looking for illegal voters for years, and haven't come up with shit and lied to the courts about it.

Hell, in Texas, they could only prosecute 50 cases of voter fraud over a ten-year period, with a special task force nominated by the Republican Governor looking for it. Mind you, we're talking about millions of votes in a state with a 700-mile border with Mexico.

Just saying illegals voting is a problem, without evidence, doesn't make it one.

I got you in the willfully naive column, Holmes.

PurpleThrobber

Southerndawg said:

PurpleThrobber said:

AZDuck said:

PurpleThrobber said:

It is equally naive to deny that at least a portion of those 2.8 Million were illegals or non-registered voters.

I have no idea whether there were more than 2.8 Million illegal votes cast. It could be way more, it could be way less.

It's a fucking red herring. Republicans have been looking for illegal voters for years, and haven't come up with shit and lied to the courts about it.

Hell, in Texas, they could only prosecute 50 cases of voter fraud over a ten-year period, with a special task force nominated by the Republican Governor looking for it. Mind you, we're talking about millions of votes in a state with a 700-mile border with Mexico.

Just saying illegals voting is a problem, without evidence, doesn't make it one.

I got you in the willfully naive column, Holmes.

I got @Swaye in the native column too.

AZDuck

RaceBannon said:

AZDuck said:

RaceBannon said:

AZDuck said:

PurpleThrobber said:

It is equally naive to deny that at least a portion of those 2.8 Million were illegals or non-registered voters.

I have no idea whether there were more than 2.8 Million illegal votes cast. It could be way more, it could be way less.

It's a fucking red herring. Republicans have been looking for illegal voters for years, and haven't come up with shit and lied to the courts about it.

Hell, in Texas, they could only prosecute 50 cases of voter fraud over a ten-year period, with a special task force nominated by the Republican Governor looking for it. Mind you, we're talking about millions of votes in a state with a 700-mile border with Mexico.

Just saying illegals voting is a problem, without evidence, doesn't make it one.

In order to have evidence you need the desire to look for it which we all know the democrats don't [already proven false - all those people looking for voter fraud in numerous studies, task forces, etc.] . That in itself is a red flag [huh?]. In California you can register to vote without proof of citizenship and there are groups to exist to register illegals [I went to the SoS website and it said you need a CA license or ID card (requires birth certificate) and your SSN (requires US citizenship or green card)]

So, you are right in the most technical sense. Someone could present a green card and a CA license and vote. Problem is, they will be flashing red whenever the list gets checked, which it does. And then they would be subject to criminal penalties and deportation. Again, it's theoretically possible, but the folks who are looking for it haven't found a problem. So why are we looking to fix something that isn't broken?

If you don't have processes in place to ensure only legals vote you have another giant red flag, not red herring.
The process is the affidavit, sworn under penalty of perjury, that the person completing the application is a US citizen.

In Virginia we have proof and the Governor, a Clinton hack, won't cooperate with the Trump initiative to find out. Red flag, not herring
No, that's Kris Kobach, a known liar and suppressor of minority votes. Almost every state, including many Republican ones agree with Virginia and the Clinton hack

nationalreview.com/article/448098/virginia-voter-fraud-report-noncitizens-voted-illegally

Allegedly, 2,000 illegals voted at some point in the past. 6,000 illegals were registered to vote. Out of 5,000,000 registered voters and 4,000,000 voters in the last election. So the system seems to be working. It's a fringe problem, not a threat to our democracy.


When a party refuses to cooperate and just mouths shit about red herrings its a red flag.

Or, you know, someone making something out of nothing so they can keep the blicks and spacs from voting legally

When you lose the argument pull the race card

I live in California - you are wrong. In Virginia illegals signed the affidavit when they weren't legal

Why are you so interested in not investigating

Red flag

2,000 votes out of 4 million = CRISIS

Voter suppression is real

RaceBannon

You have no idea of the number and your party doesn't want to find out