Johnny Wilson, 2020 5* WR, Calabasas, CA (Offered 7/14/17)
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These seem to be important pieces of reference ...
http://www.ncaa.org/sites/default/files/2018-19DIREC_BowlSubdivisionFootballRecruitingCalendar_20180720.pdf
http://www.ncaa.org/student-athletes/resources/recruiting-calendars
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Teq is such a fag. Fuck him he’s Fetters Jr
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Uh yeah, kinda like how they prematurely offered Criddell last cycle and many others they eventually backed off of. Recruiting is fluid. An offer doesn't automatically mean they want you. It means they're interested. The guys they sign and recruit hard as long as possible are the ones they really want.GreenRiverGatorz said:
What the fuck are you talking about? Half this board is bitching about how slow we are to offer. But now we prematurely offered Wilson and are back pedaling?StrongArmCobra said:
That doesn't mean shit. How long have you all had to understand that not everybody UW offers is a guy they eventually want to sign. Even with how few offers they put out, they still offer way more kids than they can take. Every year, they offer kids early and then after further evaluation, they cool on some of them and don't want them anymore. It's not a perfect system.blackmamba said:
He was offered by uw.StrongArmCobra said:There ain't no catching up to be had. This is exactly what I already told you guys. It's not "lazy recruiting" when you don't really want the kid like that. This is what happens when you have a coaching staff that completely ignores star ratings and do their own evaluations. Sometimes they completely disagree with the ratings and prefer "3-star" kids (Rome Odunze and Sawyer Racanelli) over an overrated "5-star" kid. Wilson is Brayden Lenius 2.0. Don't know how many times I have to say that for it to sink in. He's not a great WR prospect. I don't care if he goes to Oregon or anywhere else. It's a win for us if a not so good WR or soft TE prospect goes to Oregon and further clogs up their roster. Move on. All I care about is the coaches getting who THEY want. Not who fan boys who don't know shit about football talent want. I get pissed when they whiff on guys they actually want. This isn't one of those instances.
Since you appear to be such a student of his film, what did coaches see in his freshman year film that didn't translate to his sophomore and junior seasons? Where did he fall off?
What did they see? His size most likely. You see a kid with that size at such a young age you see potential. Could he be the next Calvin Johnson? You don't know. You just know you have to offer early to give yourself a chance. Then a couple years later you realize he's not anywhere close to being that so you move on. Obviously they're not stupid enough to just drop him because he's a high profile recruit. You don't want a kid like that bad mouthing UW to other potential future recruits like Delgado and Pittman have. So you still recruit him lightly but you strategically fall back and concede him to Oregon without hurting his feelings.
It baffles my fucking mind that people think he's all that. You think a 6'6 receiver who's a legit 5-star from Cali would have zero interest from USC and national schools if he was really elite like that? Especially with national schools raiding the West coast now more than ever? National schools are not after him. He just fucking said UW is not recruiting him anywhere near as hard as Oregon. Why do you think that is? If you're not football savy enough to see he's not that good of a pure WR prospect, at least look at the fucking circumstantial evidence and use logic. It's not that hard. -
There's Tequila fucking stupid and then there's you.StrongArmCobra said:
Uh yeah, kinda like how they prematurely offered Criddell last cycle and many others they eventually backed off of. Recruiting is fluid. An offer doesn't mean they want you. The guys they sign and recruit hard as long as possible are the ones they really want.GreenRiverGatorz said:
What the fuck are you talking about? Half this board is bitching about how slow we are to offer. But now we prematurely offered Wilson and are back pedaling?StrongArmCobra said:
That doesn't mean shit. How long have you all had to understand that not everybody UW offers is a guy they eventually want to sign. Even with how few offers they put out, they still offer way more kids than they can take. Every year, they offer kids early and then after further evaluation, they cool on some of them and don't want them anymore. It's not a perfect system.blackmamba said:
He was offered by uw.StrongArmCobra said:There ain't no catching up to be had. This is exactly what I already told you guys. It's not "lazy recruiting" when you don't really want the kid like that. This is what happens when you have a coaching staff that completely ignores star ratings and do their own evaluations. Sometimes they completely disagree with the ratings and prefer "3-star" kids (Rome Odunze and Sawyer Racanelli) over an overrated "5-star" kid. Wilson is Brayden Lenius 2.0. Don't know how many times I have to say that for it to sink in. He's not a great WR prospect. I don't care if he goes to Oregon or anywhere else. It's a win for us if a not so good WR or soft TE prospect goes to Oregon and further clogs up their roster. Move on. All I care about is the coaches getting who THEY want. Not who fan boys who don't know shit about football talent want. I get pissed when they whiff on guys they actually want. This isn't one of those instances.
Since you appear to be such a student of his film, what did coaches see in his freshman year film that didn't translate to his sophomore and junior seasons? Where did he fall off?
What did they see? His size most likely. You see a kid with that size at such a young age you see potential. Could he be the next Calvin Johnson? You don't know. You just know you have to offer early to give yourself a chance. Then a couple years later you realize he's not anywhere close to being that so you move on.
It baffles my fucking mind that people think he's all that. You think a 6'6 receiver who's a legit 5-star from Cali would have zero interest from USC and national schools if he was really elite like that? Especially with national schools raiding the West coast now more than ever? National schools are not after him. He just fucking said UW is not recruiting him anywhere near as hard as Oregon. Why do you think that is? If you're not football savy enough to see he's not that good, at least look at the fucking circumstantial evidence and use logic. It's not that hard.
https://247sports.com/Recruitment/Johnny-Wilson-100055/RecruitInterests/
But I'm sure Florida, FSU, Ohio St, Michigan, Penn State, Texas, Georgia, LSU, Notre Dame, Tennessee and aTm have all cooled on him for the same reasons UW's staff has, amirite? -
None of them are recruiting him hard. Kids with 5-stars next to their names get offers from everybody. That's recruiting in this day and age. They don't mean shit if they don't recruit you like a top target. He can wipe his ass with those offers. It's just paper. A lot of times, it's just so schools can get their brand out there. You have to dig deeper and look at who is actually recruiting him.dtd said:
There's Tequila fucking stupid and then there's you.StrongArmCobra said:
Uh yeah, kinda like how they prematurely offered Criddell last cycle and many others they eventually backed off of. Recruiting is fluid. An offer doesn't mean they want you. The guys they sign and recruit hard as long as possible are the ones they really want.GreenRiverGatorz said:
What the fuck are you talking about? Half this board is bitching about how slow we are to offer. But now we prematurely offered Wilson and are back pedaling?StrongArmCobra said:
That doesn't mean shit. How long have you all had to understand that not everybody UW offers is a guy they eventually want to sign. Even with how few offers they put out, they still offer way more kids than they can take. Every year, they offer kids early and then after further evaluation, they cool on some of them and don't want them anymore. It's not a perfect system.blackmamba said:
He was offered by uw.StrongArmCobra said:There ain't no catching up to be had. This is exactly what I already told you guys. It's not "lazy recruiting" when you don't really want the kid like that. This is what happens when you have a coaching staff that completely ignores star ratings and do their own evaluations. Sometimes they completely disagree with the ratings and prefer "3-star" kids (Rome Odunze and Sawyer Racanelli) over an overrated "5-star" kid. Wilson is Brayden Lenius 2.0. Don't know how many times I have to say that for it to sink in. He's not a great WR prospect. I don't care if he goes to Oregon or anywhere else. It's a win for us if a not so good WR or soft TE prospect goes to Oregon and further clogs up their roster. Move on. All I care about is the coaches getting who THEY want. Not who fan boys who don't know shit about football talent want. I get pissed when they whiff on guys they actually want. This isn't one of those instances.
Since you appear to be such a student of his film, what did coaches see in his freshman year film that didn't translate to his sophomore and junior seasons? Where did he fall off?
What did they see? His size most likely. You see a kid with that size at such a young age you see potential. Could he be the next Calvin Johnson? You don't know. You just know you have to offer early to give yourself a chance. Then a couple years later you realize he's not anywhere close to being that so you move on.
It baffles my fucking mind that people think he's all that. You think a 6'6 receiver who's a legit 5-star from Cali would have zero interest from USC and national schools if he was really elite like that? Especially with national schools raiding the West coast now more than ever? National schools are not after him. He just fucking said UW is not recruiting him anywhere near as hard as Oregon. Why do you think that is? If you're not football savy enough to see he's not that good, at least look at the fucking circumstantial evidence and use logic. It's not that hard.
https://247sports.com/Recruitment/Johnny-Wilson-100055/RecruitInterests/
But I'm sure Florida, FSU, Ohio St, Michigan, Penn State, Texas, Georgia, LSU, Notre Dame, Tennessee and aTm have all cooled on him for the same reasons UW's staff has, amirite? -
He’s literally taking an official visit to Texas in less than a month you dumb shit, but that is probably because they want to pay for his visit for no reason and they are actually not interested in him because he sucks. Wilson is an elite talent anyone with half a brain can watch 30 seconds of his film and come to that conclusion.StrongArmCobra said:
None of them are recruiting him hard. Kids with 5-stars next to their names get offers from everybody. That's recruiting in this day and age. They don't mean shit if they don't recruit you like a top target. He can wipe his ass with those offers. It's just paper. A lot of times, it's just so schools can get their brand out there. You have to dig deeper and look at who is actually recruiting him.dtd said:
There's Tequila fucking stupid and then there's you.StrongArmCobra said:
Uh yeah, kinda like how they prematurely offered Criddell last cycle and many others they eventually backed off of. Recruiting is fluid. An offer doesn't mean they want you. The guys they sign and recruit hard as long as possible are the ones they really want.GreenRiverGatorz said:
What the fuck are you talking about? Half this board is bitching about how slow we are to offer. But now we prematurely offered Wilson and are back pedaling?StrongArmCobra said:
That doesn't mean shit. How long have you all had to understand that not everybody UW offers is a guy they eventually want to sign. Even with how few offers they put out, they still offer way more kids than they can take. Every year, they offer kids early and then after further evaluation, they cool on some of them and don't want them anymore. It's not a perfect system.blackmamba said:
He was offered by uw.StrongArmCobra said:There ain't no catching up to be had. This is exactly what I already told you guys. It's not "lazy recruiting" when you don't really want the kid like that. This is what happens when you have a coaching staff that completely ignores star ratings and do their own evaluations. Sometimes they completely disagree with the ratings and prefer "3-star" kids (Rome Odunze and Sawyer Racanelli) over an overrated "5-star" kid. Wilson is Brayden Lenius 2.0. Don't know how many times I have to say that for it to sink in. He's not a great WR prospect. I don't care if he goes to Oregon or anywhere else. It's a win for us if a not so good WR or soft TE prospect goes to Oregon and further clogs up their roster. Move on. All I care about is the coaches getting who THEY want. Not who fan boys who don't know shit about football talent want. I get pissed when they whiff on guys they actually want. This isn't one of those instances.
Since you appear to be such a student of his film, what did coaches see in his freshman year film that didn't translate to his sophomore and junior seasons? Where did he fall off?
What did they see? His size most likely. You see a kid with that size at such a young age you see potential. Could he be the next Calvin Johnson? You don't know. You just know you have to offer early to give yourself a chance. Then a couple years later you realize he's not anywhere close to being that so you move on.
It baffles my fucking mind that people think he's all that. You think a 6'6 receiver who's a legit 5-star from Cali would have zero interest from USC and national schools if he was really elite like that? Especially with national schools raiding the West coast now more than ever? National schools are not after him. He just fucking said UW is not recruiting him anywhere near as hard as Oregon. Why do you think that is? If you're not football savy enough to see he's not that good, at least look at the fucking circumstantial evidence and use logic. It's not that hard.
https://247sports.com/Recruitment/Johnny-Wilson-100055/RecruitInterests/
But I'm sure Florida, FSU, Ohio St, Michigan, Penn State, Texas, Georgia, LSU, Notre Dame, Tennessee and aTm have all cooled on him for the same reasons UW's staff has, amirite?
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whuggy said:
Says Oregon is recruiting him hardest by far. The words by far are unacceptable to me. The first thing you do in ANY job is put in maximum effort. Forget the race allegations. Lazy allegations might be more appropriate.Tequilla said:Going to have to catch up and beat Oregon on this one
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Thanks for readingbackthepack said:Teq is such a fag. Fuck him he’s Fetters Jr
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I feel special that you used 1 of your 938 posts so far in this shithole on dropping my name ... thanksdtd said:
There's Tequila fucking stupid and then there's you.StrongArmCobra said:
Uh yeah, kinda like how they prematurely offered Criddell last cycle and many others they eventually backed off of. Recruiting is fluid. An offer doesn't mean they want you. The guys they sign and recruit hard as long as possible are the ones they really want.GreenRiverGatorz said:
What the fuck are you talking about? Half this board is bitching about how slow we are to offer. But now we prematurely offered Wilson and are back pedaling?StrongArmCobra said:
That doesn't mean shit. How long have you all had to understand that not everybody UW offers is a guy they eventually want to sign. Even with how few offers they put out, they still offer way more kids than they can take. Every year, they offer kids early and then after further evaluation, they cool on some of them and don't want them anymore. It's not a perfect system.blackmamba said:
He was offered by uw.StrongArmCobra said:There ain't no catching up to be had. This is exactly what I already told you guys. It's not "lazy recruiting" when you don't really want the kid like that. This is what happens when you have a coaching staff that completely ignores star ratings and do their own evaluations. Sometimes they completely disagree with the ratings and prefer "3-star" kids (Rome Odunze and Sawyer Racanelli) over an overrated "5-star" kid. Wilson is Brayden Lenius 2.0. Don't know how many times I have to say that for it to sink in. He's not a great WR prospect. I don't care if he goes to Oregon or anywhere else. It's a win for us if a not so good WR or soft TE prospect goes to Oregon and further clogs up their roster. Move on. All I care about is the coaches getting who THEY want. Not who fan boys who don't know shit about football talent want. I get pissed when they whiff on guys they actually want. This isn't one of those instances.
Since you appear to be such a student of his film, what did coaches see in his freshman year film that didn't translate to his sophomore and junior seasons? Where did he fall off?
What did they see? His size most likely. You see a kid with that size at such a young age you see potential. Could he be the next Calvin Johnson? You don't know. You just know you have to offer early to give yourself a chance. Then a couple years later you realize he's not anywhere close to being that so you move on.
It baffles my fucking mind that people think he's all that. You think a 6'6 receiver who's a legit 5-star from Cali would have zero interest from USC and national schools if he was really elite like that? Especially with national schools raiding the West coast now more than ever? National schools are not after him. He just fucking said UW is not recruiting him anywhere near as hard as Oregon. Why do you think that is? If you're not football savy enough to see he's not that good, at least look at the fucking circumstantial evidence and use logic. It's not that hard.
https://247sports.com/Recruitment/Johnny-Wilson-100055/RecruitInterests/
But I'm sure Florida, FSU, Ohio St, Michigan, Penn State, Texas, Georgia, LSU, Notre Dame, Tennessee and aTm have all cooled on him for the same reasons UW's staff has, amirite? -
Hi @TequillaTequilla said:
I feel special that you used 1 of your 938 posts so far in this shithole on dropping my name ... thanksdtd said:
There's Tequila fucking stupid and then there's you.StrongArmCobra said:
Uh yeah, kinda like how they prematurely offered Criddell last cycle and many others they eventually backed off of. Recruiting is fluid. An offer doesn't mean they want you. The guys they sign and recruit hard as long as possible are the ones they really want.GreenRiverGatorz said:
What the fuck are you talking about? Half this board is bitching about how slow we are to offer. But now we prematurely offered Wilson and are back pedaling?StrongArmCobra said:
That doesn't mean shit. How long have you all had to understand that not everybody UW offers is a guy they eventually want to sign. Even with how few offers they put out, they still offer way more kids than they can take. Every year, they offer kids early and then after further evaluation, they cool on some of them and don't want them anymore. It's not a perfect system.blackmamba said:
He was offered by uw.StrongArmCobra said:There ain't no catching up to be had. This is exactly what I already told you guys. It's not "lazy recruiting" when you don't really want the kid like that. This is what happens when you have a coaching staff that completely ignores star ratings and do their own evaluations. Sometimes they completely disagree with the ratings and prefer "3-star" kids (Rome Odunze and Sawyer Racanelli) over an overrated "5-star" kid. Wilson is Brayden Lenius 2.0. Don't know how many times I have to say that for it to sink in. He's not a great WR prospect. I don't care if he goes to Oregon or anywhere else. It's a win for us if a not so good WR or soft TE prospect goes to Oregon and further clogs up their roster. Move on. All I care about is the coaches getting who THEY want. Not who fan boys who don't know shit about football talent want. I get pissed when they whiff on guys they actually want. This isn't one of those instances.
Since you appear to be such a student of his film, what did coaches see in his freshman year film that didn't translate to his sophomore and junior seasons? Where did he fall off?
What did they see? His size most likely. You see a kid with that size at such a young age you see potential. Could he be the next Calvin Johnson? You don't know. You just know you have to offer early to give yourself a chance. Then a couple years later you realize he's not anywhere close to being that so you move on.
It baffles my fucking mind that people think he's all that. You think a 6'6 receiver who's a legit 5-star from Cali would have zero interest from USC and national schools if he was really elite like that? Especially with national schools raiding the West coast now more than ever? National schools are not after him. He just fucking said UW is not recruiting him anywhere near as hard as Oregon. Why do you think that is? If you're not football savy enough to see he's not that good, at least look at the fucking circumstantial evidence and use logic. It's not that hard.
https://247sports.com/Recruitment/Johnny-Wilson-100055/RecruitInterests/
But I'm sure Florida, FSU, Ohio St, Michigan, Penn State, Texas, Georgia, LSU, Notre Dame, Tennessee and aTm have all cooled on him for the same reasons UW's staff has, amirite?
