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  • TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    salemcoog said:

    Mosster47 said:

    salemcoog said:

    AZDuck said:

    salemcoog said:

    AZDuck said:

    salemcoog said:

    AZDuck said:

    salemcoog said:

    AZDuck said:

    Doogles said:

    Trump would have won the popular vote if he needed it to win the presidency.

    The rules of the game he played dictated his strategy. If you can't see that, you're probably still confused how Hillary lost.

    That's dumb. Where was he going to get three million votes?
    Losers change the rules after they lose.

    You've reached reddit status in this thread and I question your reasoning skills to be a Mall cop.
    What rules did I change?

    What did Sweden change last year that is going to bankrupt it? Can you cite to an authority besides your unwashed ass?

    When did the US adopt socialism (democratic or otherwise) as its ruling principle? Can you cite to an authority besides your unwashed ass?

    Donald Trump is not a very popular president. You have to go back to 2004 to find an election where Trump's vote total would have won the popular vote. Back then the US population was 32 million less than it was in 2016.

    His ratings haven't been shooting up since he was inaugurated, either.

    Trump did great with the system in place. But an election with low turnout, both parties' candidates historically unpopular, over a million write-in votes, that's no mandate, fren.
    Winners win.

    Losers make up excuses.

    And it's clear you blew your load about a third of the way into the video if you have to ask what has changed in Sweden. So clean up and watch it again with your hands our of your shorts and pay attention.
    You're right that I didn't watch the video, I can't see them on internet explorer.

    That's why I went looking for some big change to Swedish government or policy on the interwebz. Finding nothing (the Social Democrats and the Greens control a "minority government") I asked you.

    As for the rest, Sweden is demonstrably (1) democratic, (2) solvent, (3) successful.

    So what's gunna change?
    Then shut the fuck up then already.
    No. My very first response in this thread was to your bullshit saying that we can't have nice things because we spend lots of money on foreign policy stuff. I pointed out that the Swedes actually spend comparable amounts on foreign policy stuff (per capita) because they have to pay the freight for their defense as a non-NATO member country and they actually put a decent amount (again, per capita) into their foreign aid budget.

    I don't need to watch a video to know that.

    You never did tell me what changed in Sweden that made them even more socialist-y
    Translated as I think I fucking know everything and don't need to actually pay attention to the subject at hand because I think I'm really cheeky and a handful of libtards really like me.

    If you invested the 1/10 of the time to watch the video than continue to shitpoast, you would realize that your vaunted Sweden has a new leader who doubled down on Socialism recently and that the bills have not come due yet.

    Your about as useful as a fuckin Hondo these days. So get back to wasted my tax dollars shit posting on another subject that you think you know about.
    Right, but money isn't real. They are Sweden. Everyone likes them. There will be no issues.

    http://www.tradingeconomics.com/sweden/government-debt-to-gdp

    Sweden's debt to GDP is half of the US. So when these bills come due they will still be better off than the US.

    Some People forget that our attempt at Socialism is why our debt doubled under Obama.

    Some people are doing that.
    Fact check:

    The debt literally doubled during W's reign of Socialistic terror. It went up 68% under Obama.

    To be fair, the debt did go up more in raw dollars under Obama.

    If you want to equate debt percentage increase to Socialism, Reagan is Stalin:

    https://www.thebalance.com/us-debt-by-president-by-dollar-and-percent-3306296
  • UWhuskytskeetUWhuskytskeet Member Posts: 7,113
    salemcoog said:

    Mosster47 said:

    salemcoog said:

    AZDuck said:

    salemcoog said:

    AZDuck said:

    salemcoog said:

    AZDuck said:

    salemcoog said:

    AZDuck said:

    Doogles said:

    Trump would have won the popular vote if he needed it to win the presidency.

    The rules of the game he played dictated his strategy. If you can't see that, you're probably still confused how Hillary lost.

    That's dumb. Where was he going to get three million votes?
    Losers change the rules after they lose.

    You've reached reddit status in this thread and I question your reasoning skills to be a Mall cop.
    What rules did I change?

    What did Sweden change last year that is going to bankrupt it? Can you cite to an authority besides your unwashed ass?

    When did the US adopt socialism (democratic or otherwise) as its ruling principle? Can you cite to an authority besides your unwashed ass?

    Donald Trump is not a very popular president. You have to go back to 2004 to find an election where Trump's vote total would have won the popular vote. Back then the US population was 32 million less than it was in 2016.

    His ratings haven't been shooting up since he was inaugurated, either.

    Trump did great with the system in place. But an election with low turnout, both parties' candidates historically unpopular, over a million write-in votes, that's no mandate, fren.
    Winners win.

    Losers make up excuses.

    And it's clear you blew your load about a third of the way into the video if you have to ask what has changed in Sweden. So clean up and watch it again with your hands our of your shorts and pay attention.
    You're right that I didn't watch the video, I can't see them on internet explorer.

    That's why I went looking for some big change to Swedish government or policy on the interwebz. Finding nothing (the Social Democrats and the Greens control a "minority government") I asked you.

    As for the rest, Sweden is demonstrably (1) democratic, (2) solvent, (3) successful.

    So what's gunna change?
    Then shut the fuck up then already.
    No. My very first response in this thread was to your bullshit saying that we can't have nice things because we spend lots of money on foreign policy stuff. I pointed out that the Swedes actually spend comparable amounts on foreign policy stuff (per capita) because they have to pay the freight for their defense as a non-NATO member country and they actually put a decent amount (again, per capita) into their foreign aid budget.

    I don't need to watch a video to know that.

    You never did tell me what changed in Sweden that made them even more socialist-y
    Translated as I think I fucking know everything and don't need to actually pay attention to the subject at hand because I think I'm really cheeky and a handful of libtards really like me.

    If you invested the 1/10 of the time to watch the video than continue to shitpoast, you would realize that your vaunted Sweden has a new leader who doubled down on Socialism recently and that the bills have not come due yet.

    Your about as useful as a fuckin Hondo these days. So get back to wasted my tax dollars shit posting on another subject that you think you know about.
    Right, but money isn't real. They are Sweden. Everyone likes them. There will be no issues.

    http://www.tradingeconomics.com/sweden/government-debt-to-gdp

    Sweden's debt to GDP is half of the US. So when these bills come due they will still be better off than the US.

    Some People forget that our attempt at Socialism is why our debt doubled under Obama.

    Some people are doing that.
    Christ you are dumb. Do you prefer the Trump strategy of reducing tax receipts and increasing spending?
  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,885

    salemcoog said:

    Mosster47 said:

    salemcoog said:

    AZDuck said:

    salemcoog said:

    AZDuck said:

    salemcoog said:

    AZDuck said:

    salemcoog said:

    AZDuck said:

    Doogles said:

    Trump would have won the popular vote if he needed it to win the presidency.

    The rules of the game he played dictated his strategy. If you can't see that, you're probably still confused how Hillary lost.

    That's dumb. Where was he going to get three million votes?
    Losers change the rules after they lose.

    You've reached reddit status in this thread and I question your reasoning skills to be a Mall cop.
    What rules did I change?

    What did Sweden change last year that is going to bankrupt it? Can you cite to an authority besides your unwashed ass?

    When did the US adopt socialism (democratic or otherwise) as its ruling principle? Can you cite to an authority besides your unwashed ass?

    Donald Trump is not a very popular president. You have to go back to 2004 to find an election where Trump's vote total would have won the popular vote. Back then the US population was 32 million less than it was in 2016.

    His ratings haven't been shooting up since he was inaugurated, either.

    Trump did great with the system in place. But an election with low turnout, both parties' candidates historically unpopular, over a million write-in votes, that's no mandate, fren.
    Winners win.

    Losers make up excuses.

    And it's clear you blew your load about a third of the way into the video if you have to ask what has changed in Sweden. So clean up and watch it again with your hands our of your shorts and pay attention.
    You're right that I didn't watch the video, I can't see them on internet explorer.

    That's why I went looking for some big change to Swedish government or policy on the interwebz. Finding nothing (the Social Democrats and the Greens control a "minority government") I asked you.

    As for the rest, Sweden is demonstrably (1) democratic, (2) solvent, (3) successful.

    So what's gunna change?
    Then shut the fuck up then already.
    No. My very first response in this thread was to your bullshit saying that we can't have nice things because we spend lots of money on foreign policy stuff. I pointed out that the Swedes actually spend comparable amounts on foreign policy stuff (per capita) because they have to pay the freight for their defense as a non-NATO member country and they actually put a decent amount (again, per capita) into their foreign aid budget.

    I don't need to watch a video to know that.

    You never did tell me what changed in Sweden that made them even more socialist-y
    Translated as I think I fucking know everything and don't need to actually pay attention to the subject at hand because I think I'm really cheeky and a handful of libtards really like me.

    If you invested the 1/10 of the time to watch the video than continue to shitpoast, you would realize that your vaunted Sweden has a new leader who doubled down on Socialism recently and that the bills have not come due yet.

    Your about as useful as a fuckin Hondo these days. So get back to wasted my tax dollars shit posting on another subject that you think you know about.
    Right, but money isn't real. They are Sweden. Everyone likes them. There will be no issues.

    http://www.tradingeconomics.com/sweden/government-debt-to-gdp

    Sweden's debt to GDP is half of the US. So when these bills come due they will still be better off than the US.

    Some People forget that our attempt at Socialism is why our debt doubled under Obama.

    Some people are doing that.
    Christ you are dumb. Do you prefer the Trump strategy of reducing tax receipts and increasing spending?
    I'm going to need to see the tax plan. Can you forward me the link?
















    That's what I thought.
  • UWhuskytskeetUWhuskytskeet Member Posts: 7,113
    salemcoog said:

    salemcoog said:

    Mosster47 said:

    salemcoog said:

    AZDuck said:

    salemcoog said:

    AZDuck said:

    salemcoog said:

    AZDuck said:

    salemcoog said:

    AZDuck said:

    Doogles said:

    Trump would have won the popular vote if he needed it to win the presidency.

    The rules of the game he played dictated his strategy. If you can't see that, you're probably still confused how Hillary lost.

    That's dumb. Where was he going to get three million votes?
    Losers change the rules after they lose.

    You've reached reddit status in this thread and I question your reasoning skills to be a Mall cop.
    What rules did I change?

    What did Sweden change last year that is going to bankrupt it? Can you cite to an authority besides your unwashed ass?

    When did the US adopt socialism (democratic or otherwise) as its ruling principle? Can you cite to an authority besides your unwashed ass?

    Donald Trump is not a very popular president. You have to go back to 2004 to find an election where Trump's vote total would have won the popular vote. Back then the US population was 32 million less than it was in 2016.

    His ratings haven't been shooting up since he was inaugurated, either.

    Trump did great with the system in place. But an election with low turnout, both parties' candidates historically unpopular, over a million write-in votes, that's no mandate, fren.
    Winners win.

    Losers make up excuses.

    And it's clear you blew your load about a third of the way into the video if you have to ask what has changed in Sweden. So clean up and watch it again with your hands our of your shorts and pay attention.
    You're right that I didn't watch the video, I can't see them on internet explorer.

    That's why I went looking for some big change to Swedish government or policy on the interwebz. Finding nothing (the Social Democrats and the Greens control a "minority government") I asked you.

    As for the rest, Sweden is demonstrably (1) democratic, (2) solvent, (3) successful.

    So what's gunna change?
    Then shut the fuck up then already.
    No. My very first response in this thread was to your bullshit saying that we can't have nice things because we spend lots of money on foreign policy stuff. I pointed out that the Swedes actually spend comparable amounts on foreign policy stuff (per capita) because they have to pay the freight for their defense as a non-NATO member country and they actually put a decent amount (again, per capita) into their foreign aid budget.

    I don't need to watch a video to know that.

    You never did tell me what changed in Sweden that made them even more socialist-y
    Translated as I think I fucking know everything and don't need to actually pay attention to the subject at hand because I think I'm really cheeky and a handful of libtards really like me.

    If you invested the 1/10 of the time to watch the video than continue to shitpoast, you would realize that your vaunted Sweden has a new leader who doubled down on Socialism recently and that the bills have not come due yet.

    Your about as useful as a fuckin Hondo these days. So get back to wasted my tax dollars shit posting on another subject that you think you know about.
    Right, but money isn't real. They are Sweden. Everyone likes them. There will be no issues.

    http://www.tradingeconomics.com/sweden/government-debt-to-gdp

    Sweden's debt to GDP is half of the US. So when these bills come due they will still be better off than the US.

    Some People forget that our attempt at Socialism is why our debt doubled under Obama.

    Some people are doing that.
    Christ you are dumb. Do you prefer the Trump strategy of reducing tax receipts and increasing spending?
    I'm going to need to see the tax plan. Can you forward me the link?
















    That's what I thought.
    You think he's going to raise taxes?
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,850 Founders Club
    Growth and revenue exploded under Reagan. Obama is Mr under 2%
  • TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    Growth and revenue exploded under Reagan. Obama is Mr under 2%

    If you want to justify massive federal debt growth because of correlated GDP growth, that's fine. It's probably even good.

    That wasn't the argument @salemcoog was making though.
  • UWhuskytskeetUWhuskytskeet Member Posts: 7,113

    Growth and revenue exploded under Reagan. Obama is Mr under 2%

    It will work out if there truly is large growth, otherwise we fucked x2. Not sure doubling down is the right move.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,850 Founders Club

    Growth and revenue exploded under Reagan. Obama is Mr under 2%

    If you want to justify massive federal debt growth because of correlated GDP growth, that's fine. It's probably even good.

    That wasn't the argument @salemcoog was making though.
    The point is spending exploded the debt and that was a democrat congress. If we are just going to over spend no matter how much revenue we get then fuck it. It blows up the argument that we NEED to pay MORE
  • TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    Growth and revenue exploded under Reagan. Obama is Mr under 2%

    If you want to justify massive federal debt growth because of correlated GDP growth, that's fine. It's probably even good.

    That wasn't the argument @salemcoog was making though.
    The point is spending exploded the debt and that was a democrat congress. If we are just going to over spend no matter how much revenue we get then fuck it. It blows up the argument that we NEED to pay MORE
    I agree with that point as well.

    The unrelated point that @salemcoog made was that debt explosion is tied to Socialist policies. If that's true, then Reagan and W were better Socialists than Obama.
  • Mosster47Mosster47 Member Posts: 6,246
    salemcoog said:

    Mosster47 said:

    salemcoog said:

    AZDuck said:

    salemcoog said:

    AZDuck said:

    salemcoog said:

    AZDuck said:

    salemcoog said:

    AZDuck said:

    Doogles said:

    Trump would have won the popular vote if he needed it to win the presidency.

    The rules of the game he played dictated his strategy. If you can't see that, you're probably still confused how Hillary lost.

    That's dumb. Where was he going to get three million votes?
    Losers change the rules after they lose.

    You've reached reddit status in this thread and I question your reasoning skills to be a Mall cop.
    What rules did I change?

    What did Sweden change last year that is going to bankrupt it? Can you cite to an authority besides your unwashed ass?

    When did the US adopt socialism (democratic or otherwise) as its ruling principle? Can you cite to an authority besides your unwashed ass?

    Donald Trump is not a very popular president. You have to go back to 2004 to find an election where Trump's vote total would have won the popular vote. Back then the US population was 32 million less than it was in 2016.

    His ratings haven't been shooting up since he was inaugurated, either.

    Trump did great with the system in place. But an election with low turnout, both parties' candidates historically unpopular, over a million write-in votes, that's no mandate, fren.
    Winners win.

    Losers make up excuses.

    And it's clear you blew your load about a third of the way into the video if you have to ask what has changed in Sweden. So clean up and watch it again with your hands our of your shorts and pay attention.
    You're right that I didn't watch the video, I can't see them on internet explorer.

    That's why I went looking for some big change to Swedish government or policy on the interwebz. Finding nothing (the Social Democrats and the Greens control a "minority government") I asked you.

    As for the rest, Sweden is demonstrably (1) democratic, (2) solvent, (3) successful.

    So what's gunna change?
    Then shut the fuck up then already.
    No. My very first response in this thread was to your bullshit saying that we can't have nice things because we spend lots of money on foreign policy stuff. I pointed out that the Swedes actually spend comparable amounts on foreign policy stuff (per capita) because they have to pay the freight for their defense as a non-NATO member country and they actually put a decent amount (again, per capita) into their foreign aid budget.

    I don't need to watch a video to know that.

    You never did tell me what changed in Sweden that made them even more socialist-y
    Translated as I think I fucking know everything and don't need to actually pay attention to the subject at hand because I think I'm really cheeky and a handful of libtards really like me.

    If you invested the 1/10 of the time to watch the video than continue to shitpoast, you would realize that your vaunted Sweden has a new leader who doubled down on Socialism recently and that the bills have not come due yet.

    Your about as useful as a fuckin Hondo these days. So get back to wasted my tax dollars shit posting on another subject that you think you know about.
    Right, but money isn't real. They are Sweden. Everyone likes them. There will be no issues.

    http://www.tradingeconomics.com/sweden/government-debt-to-gdp

    Sweden's debt to GDP is half of the US. So when these bills come due they will still be better off than the US.

    Some People forget that our attempt at Socialism is why our debt doubled under Obama.

    Some people are doing that.
    No, our economy was centered on home mortgages, some assholes got greedy and crashed the system. Then they were given 100 cents on the dollar which did nothing for the millions of people and businesses that were screwed when the economy crashed. You can't come out of a depression by lowering taxes and yelling at immigrants.

    The bailout was fucking stupid. The subsidizing of the nation was necessary because the easy option of jumping into WW2 wasn't readily available.

    Until rednecks like you admit that America isn't the greatest country in the world anymore we will be stuck with one foot off the merry-go-round.
  • AZDuckAZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    Has Sweden imploded yet?
  • Mosster47Mosster47 Member Posts: 6,246
    AZDuck said:

    Has Sweden imploded yet?

    Are you asking for a fren?
  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,885

    Growth and revenue exploded under Reagan. Obama is Mr under 2%

    It will work out if there truly is large growth, otherwise we fucked x2. Not sure doubling down is the right move.
    You mean like Sweden is doing?
  • AZDuckAZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    salemcoog said:

    Growth and revenue exploded under Reagan. Obama is Mr under 2%

    It will work out if there truly is large growth, otherwise we fucked x2. Not sure doubling down is the right move.
    You mean like Sweden is doing?
    Is the implosion happening?!?!?!?!!!!?!!?!?!?!!!?!!!11?1

    image

    Oh. Nope, still looks like a pretty nice place
  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,499 Standard Supporter
    AZDuck said:

    salemcoog said:

    Growth and revenue exploded under Reagan. Obama is Mr under 2%

    It will work out if there truly is large growth, otherwise we fucked x2. Not sure doubling down is the right move.
    You mean like Sweden is doing?
    Is the implosion happening?!?!?!?!!!!?!!?!?!?!!!?!!!11?1

    image

    Oh. Nope, still looks like a pretty nice place
    Tick tick tick....
  • DooglesDoogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,591 Founders Club
    salemcoog said:

    Mosster47 said:

    salemcoog said:

    Mosster47 said:

    salemcoog said:

    AZDuck said:

    salemcoog said:

    AZDuck said:

    salemcoog said:

    AZDuck said:

    salemcoog said:

    AZDuck said:

    Doogles said:

    Trump would have won the popular vote if he needed it to win the presidency.

    The rules of the game he played dictated his strategy. If you can't see that, you're probably still confused how Hillary lost.

    That's dumb. Where was he going to get three million votes?
    Losers change the rules after they lose.

    You've reached reddit status in this thread and I question your reasoning skills to be a Mall cop.
    What rules did I change?

    What did Sweden change last year that is going to bankrupt it? Can you cite to an authority besides your unwashed ass?

    When did the US adopt socialism (democratic or otherwise) as its ruling principle? Can you cite to an authority besides your unwashed ass?

    Donald Trump is not a very popular president. You have to go back to 2004 to find an election where Trump's vote total would have won the popular vote. Back then the US population was 32 million less than it was in 2016.

    His ratings haven't been shooting up since he was inaugurated, either.

    Trump did great with the system in place. But an election with low turnout, both parties' candidates historically unpopular, over a million write-in votes, that's no mandate, fren.
    Winners win.

    Losers make up excuses.

    And it's clear you blew your load about a third of the way into the video if you have to ask what has changed in Sweden. So clean up and watch it again with your hands our of your shorts and pay attention.
    You're right that I didn't watch the video, I can't see them on internet explorer.

    That's why I went looking for some big change to Swedish government or policy on the interwebz. Finding nothing (the Social Democrats and the Greens control a "minority government") I asked you.

    As for the rest, Sweden is demonstrably (1) democratic, (2) solvent, (3) successful.

    So what's gunna change?
    Then shut the fuck up then already.
    No. My very first response in this thread was to your bullshit saying that we can't have nice things because we spend lots of money on foreign policy stuff. I pointed out that the Swedes actually spend comparable amounts on foreign policy stuff (per capita) because they have to pay the freight for their defense as a non-NATO member country and they actually put a decent amount (again, per capita) into their foreign aid budget.

    I don't need to watch a video to know that.

    You never did tell me what changed in Sweden that made them even more socialist-y
    Translated as I think I fucking know everything and don't need to actually pay attention to the subject at hand because I think I'm really cheeky and a handful of libtards really like me.

    If you invested the 1/10 of the time to watch the video than continue to shitpoast, you would realize that your vaunted Sweden has a new leader who doubled down on Socialism recently and that the bills have not come due yet.

    Your about as useful as a fuckin Hondo these days. So get back to wasted my tax dollars shit posting on another subject that you think you know about.
    Right, but money isn't real. They are Sweden. Everyone likes them. There will be no issues.

    http://www.tradingeconomics.com/sweden/government-debt-to-gdp

    Sweden's debt to GDP is half of the US. So when these bills come due they will still be better off than the US.

    Some People forget that our attempt at Socialism is why our debt doubled under Obama.

    Some people are doing that.
    No, our economy was centered on home mortgages, some assholes got greedy and crashed the system. Then they were given 100 cents on the dollar which did nothing for the millions of people and businesses that were screwed when the economy crashed. You can't come out of a depression by lowering taxes and yelling at immigrants.

    The bailout was fucking stupid. The subsidizing of the nation was necessary because the easy option of jumping into WW2 wasn't readily available.

    Until rednecks like you admit that America isn't the greatest country in the world anymore we will be stuck with one foot off the merry-go-round.
    Immigrants from multiple countries will risk killing themselves to come here everyday.

    The whole world looks to us for their entertainment and loves our culture, if not our politics. A quarter of the world's nations and most of Europe would be swallowed up by Russia, China and the Middle East psychos, if we suddenly left them to fend for themselves.

    We are still the number one country for innovative products and services.

    All of the other so called Utopian countries like Sweden would be shit holes if not for the protection, aid and leadership that the US offers.

    We allow them to be so "great".
    Pretty much this. Acting like USA plays under the same rules as the rest of the world is laughable.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,850 Founders Club
    America hatters are gonna hat
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