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  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,183 Standard Supporter
    salemcoog said:

    Mosster47 said:

    salemcoog said:

    Mosster47 said:

    salemcoog said:

    Mosster47 said:

    salemcoog said:

    AZDuck said:

    salemcoog said:

    AZDuck said:

    salemcoog said:

    AZDuck said:

    salemcoog said:

    AZDuck said:

    Doogles said:

    Trump would have won the popular vote if he needed it to win the presidency.

    The rules of the game he played dictated his strategy. If you can't see that, you're probably still confused how Hillary lost.

    That's dumb. Where was he going to get three million votes?
    Losers change the rules after they lose.

    You've reached reddit status in this thread and I question your reasoning skills to be a Mall cop.
    What rules did I change?

    What did Sweden change last year that is going to bankrupt it? Can you cite to an authority besides your unwashed ass?

    When did the US adopt socialism (democratic or otherwise) as its ruling principle? Can you cite to an authority besides your unwashed ass?

    Donald Trump is not a very popular president. You have to go back to 2004 to find an election where Trump's vote total would have won the popular vote. Back then the US population was 32 million less than it was in 2016.

    His ratings haven't been shooting up since he was inaugurated, either.

    Trump did great with the system in place. But an election with low turnout, both parties' candidates historically unpopular, over a million write-in votes, that's no mandate, fren.
    Winners win.

    Losers make up excuses.

    And it's clear you blew your load about a third of the way into the video if you have to ask what has changed in Sweden. So clean up and watch it again with your hands our of your shorts and pay attention.
    You're right that I didn't watch the video, I can't see them on internet explorer.

    That's why I went looking for some big change to Swedish government or policy on the interwebz. Finding nothing (the Social Democrats and the Greens control a "minority government") I asked you.

    As for the rest, Sweden is demonstrably (1) democratic, (2) solvent, (3) successful.

    So what's gunna change?
    Then shut the fuck up then already.
    No. My very first response in this thread was to your bullshit saying that we can't have nice things because we spend lots of money on foreign policy stuff. I pointed out that the Swedes actually spend comparable amounts on foreign policy stuff (per capita) because they have to pay the freight for their defense as a non-NATO member country and they actually put a decent amount (again, per capita) into their foreign aid budget.

    I don't need to watch a video to know that.

    You never did tell me what changed in Sweden that made them even more socialist-y
    Translated as I think I fucking know everything and don't need to actually pay attention to the subject at hand because I think I'm really cheeky and a handful of libtards really like me.

    If you invested the 1/10 of the time to watch the video than continue to shitpoast, you would realize that your vaunted Sweden has a new leader who doubled down on Socialism recently and that the bills have not come due yet.

    Your about as useful as a fuckin Hondo these days. So get back to wasted my tax dollars shit posting on another subject that you think you know about.
    Right, but money isn't real. They are Sweden. Everyone likes them. There will be no issues.

    http://www.tradingeconomics.com/sweden/government-debt-to-gdp

    Sweden's debt to GDP is half of the US. So when these bills come due they will still be better off than the US.

    Some People forget that our attempt at Socialism is why our debt doubled under Obama.

    Some people are doing that.
    No, our economy was centered on home mortgages, some assholes got greedy and crashed the system. Then they were given 100 cents on the dollar which did nothing for the millions of people and businesses that were screwed when the economy crashed. You can't come out of a depression by lowering taxes and yelling at immigrants.

    The bailout was fucking stupid. The subsidizing of the nation was necessary because the easy option of jumping into WW2 wasn't readily available.

    Until rednecks like you admit that America isn't the greatest country in the world anymore we will be stuck with one foot off the merry-go-round.
    Immigrants from multiple countries will risk killing themselves to come here everyday.

    The whole world looks to us for their entertainment and loves our culture, if not our politics. A quarter of the world's nations and most of Europe would be swallowed up by Russia, China and the Middle East psychos, if we suddenly left them to fend for themselves.

    We are still the number one country for innovative products and services.

    All of the other so called Utopian countries like Sweden would be shit holes if not for the protection, aid and leadership that the US offers.

    We allow them to be so "great".
    Who the fuck is coming to "get" all of these countries? Sweden's military would fuck up everyone in the region not named Russia. We aren't why Russia hasn't came for Sweden.

    We border a swath of 3rd world countries. Of course they try to come here. A fuck ton of immigrants go to really nice socialist countries.

    You're being the guy at the bar with a tear in his eye during a Toby Keith song.
    And you're the patchouli stanched hipster with the Che Guevara tshirt reading bad poetry in a shitty coffee house.
    image

    Go Zags.
  • AZDuckAZDuck Member Posts: 15,381

    salemcoog said:

    Mosster47 said:

    salemcoog said:

    Mosster47 said:

    salemcoog said:

    Mosster47 said:

    salemcoog said:

    AZDuck said:

    salemcoog said:

    AZDuck said:

    salemcoog said:

    AZDuck said:

    salemcoog said:

    AZDuck said:

    Doogles said:

    Trump would have won the popular vote if he needed it to win the presidency.

    The rules of the game he played dictated his strategy. If you can't see that, you're probably still confused how Hillary lost.

    That's dumb. Where was he going to get three million votes?
    Losers change the rules after they lose.

    You've reached reddit status in this thread and I question your reasoning skills to be a Mall cop.
    What rules did I change?

    What did Sweden change last year that is going to bankrupt it? Can you cite to an authority besides your unwashed ass?

    When did the US adopt socialism (democratic or otherwise) as its ruling principle? Can you cite to an authority besides your unwashed ass?

    Donald Trump is not a very popular president. You have to go back to 2004 to find an election where Trump's vote total would have won the popular vote. Back then the US population was 32 million less than it was in 2016.

    His ratings haven't been shooting up since he was inaugurated, either.

    Trump did great with the system in place. But an election with low turnout, both parties' candidates historically unpopular, over a million write-in votes, that's no mandate, fren.
    Winners win.

    Losers make up excuses.

    And it's clear you blew your load about a third of the way into the video if you have to ask what has changed in Sweden. So clean up and watch it again with your hands our of your shorts and pay attention.
    You're right that I didn't watch the video, I can't see them on internet explorer.

    That's why I went looking for some big change to Swedish government or policy on the interwebz. Finding nothing (the Social Democrats and the Greens control a "minority government") I asked you.

    As for the rest, Sweden is demonstrably (1) democratic, (2) solvent, (3) successful.

    So what's gunna change?
    Then shut the fuck up then already.
    No. My very first response in this thread was to your bullshit saying that we can't have nice things because we spend lots of money on foreign policy stuff. I pointed out that the Swedes actually spend comparable amounts on foreign policy stuff (per capita) because they have to pay the freight for their defense as a non-NATO member country and they actually put a decent amount (again, per capita) into their foreign aid budget.

    I don't need to watch a video to know that.

    You never did tell me what changed in Sweden that made them even more socialist-y
    Translated as I think I fucking know everything and don't need to actually pay attention to the subject at hand because I think I'm really cheeky and a handful of libtards really like me.

    If you invested the 1/10 of the time to watch the video than continue to shitpoast, you would realize that your vaunted Sweden has a new leader who doubled down on Socialism recently and that the bills have not come due yet.

    Your about as useful as a fuckin Hondo these days. So get back to wasted my tax dollars shit posting on another subject that you think you know about.
    Right, but money isn't real. They are Sweden. Everyone likes them. There will be no issues.

    http://www.tradingeconomics.com/sweden/government-debt-to-gdp

    Sweden's debt to GDP is half of the US. So when these bills come due they will still be better off than the US.

    Some People forget that our attempt at Socialism is why our debt doubled under Obama.

    Some people are doing that.
    No, our economy was centered on home mortgages, some assholes got greedy and crashed the system. Then they were given 100 cents on the dollar which did nothing for the millions of people and businesses that were screwed when the economy crashed. You can't come out of a depression by lowering taxes and yelling at immigrants.

    The bailout was fucking stupid. The subsidizing of the nation was necessary because the easy option of jumping into WW2 wasn't readily available.

    Until rednecks like you admit that America isn't the greatest country in the world anymore we will be stuck with one foot off the merry-go-round.
    Immigrants from multiple countries will risk killing themselves to come here everyday.

    The whole world looks to us for their entertainment and loves our culture, if not our politics. A quarter of the world's nations and most of Europe would be swallowed up by Russia, China and the Middle East psychos, if we suddenly left them to fend for themselves.

    We are still the number one country for innovative products and services.

    All of the other so called Utopian countries like Sweden would be shit holes if not for the protection, aid and leadership that the US offers.

    We allow them to be so "great".
    Who the fuck is coming to "get" all of these countries? Sweden's military would fuck up everyone in the region not named Russia. We aren't why Russia hasn't came for Sweden.

    We border a swath of 3rd world countries. Of course they try to come here. A fuck ton of immigrants go to really nice socialist countries.

    You're being the guy at the bar with a tear in his eye during a Toby Keith song.
    And you're the patchouli stanched hipster with the Che Guevara tshirt reading bad poetry in a shitty coffee house.
    image

    Go Zags.
    image
  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,499 Standard Supporter

    For those of you who can't analyze:
    Warmer than Seattle
    Cheaper than Seattle
    Better transportation than Seattle

    I'm not saying it's better than the US, but it's better than Seattle

    Hey Natalie Maines, stay gone.
  • LoneStarDawgLoneStarDawg Member Posts: 13,340
    And hotter city bitches, if you're into women who the only person they hate more than you is themselves.

    #butstill
  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,885
    Mosster47 said:

    salemcoog said:

    Mosster47 said:

    salemcoog said:

    Mosster47 said:

    salemcoog said:

    Mosster47 said:

    salemcoog said:

    AZDuck said:

    salemcoog said:

    AZDuck said:

    salemcoog said:

    AZDuck said:

    salemcoog said:

    AZDuck said:

    Doogles said:

    Trump would have won the popular vote if he needed it to win the presidency.

    The rules of the game he played dictated his strategy. If you can't see that, you're probably still confused how Hillary lost.

    That's dumb. Where was he going to get three million votes?
    Losers change the rules after they lose.

    You've reached reddit status in this thread and I question your reasoning skills to be a Mall cop.
    What rules did I change?

    What did Sweden change last year that is going to bankrupt it? Can you cite to an authority besides your unwashed ass?

    When did the US adopt socialism (democratic or otherwise) as its ruling principle? Can you cite to an authority besides your unwashed ass?

    Donald Trump is not a very popular president. You have to go back to 2004 to find an election where Trump's vote total would have won the popular vote. Back then the US population was 32 million less than it was in 2016.

    His ratings haven't been shooting up since he was inaugurated, either.

    Trump did great with the system in place. But an election with low turnout, both parties' candidates historically unpopular, over a million write-in votes, that's no mandate, fren.
    Winners win.

    Losers make up excuses.

    And it's clear you blew your load about a third of the way into the video if you have to ask what has changed in Sweden. So clean up and watch it again with your hands our of your shorts and pay attention.
    You're right that I didn't watch the video, I can't see them on internet explorer.

    That's why I went looking for some big change to Swedish government or policy on the interwebz. Finding nothing (the Social Democrats and the Greens control a "minority government") I asked you.

    As for the rest, Sweden is demonstrably (1) democratic, (2) solvent, (3) successful.

    So what's gunna change?
    Then shut the fuck up then already.
    No. My very first response in this thread was to your bullshit saying that we can't have nice things because we spend lots of money on foreign policy stuff. I pointed out that the Swedes actually spend comparable amounts on foreign policy stuff (per capita) because they have to pay the freight for their defense as a non-NATO member country and they actually put a decent amount (again, per capita) into their foreign aid budget.

    I don't need to watch a video to know that.

    You never did tell me what changed in Sweden that made them even more socialist-y
    Translated as I think I fucking know everything and don't need to actually pay attention to the subject at hand because I think I'm really cheeky and a handful of libtards really like me.

    If you invested the 1/10 of the time to watch the video than continue to shitpoast, you would realize that your vaunted Sweden has a new leader who doubled down on Socialism recently and that the bills have not come due yet.

    Your about as useful as a fuckin Hondo these days. So get back to wasted my tax dollars shit posting on another subject that you think you know about.
    Right, but money isn't real. They are Sweden. Everyone likes them. There will be no issues.

    http://www.tradingeconomics.com/sweden/government-debt-to-gdp

    Sweden's debt to GDP is half of the US. So when these bills come due they will still be better off than the US.

    Some People forget that our attempt at Socialism is why our debt doubled under Obama.

    Some people are doing that.
    No, our economy was centered on home mortgages, some assholes got greedy and crashed the system. Then they were given 100 cents on the dollar which did nothing for the millions of people and businesses that were screwed when the economy crashed. You can't come out of a depression by lowering taxes and yelling at immigrants.

    The bailout was fucking stupid. The subsidizing of the nation was necessary because the easy option of jumping into WW2 wasn't readily available.

    Until rednecks like you admit that America isn't the greatest country in the world anymore we will be stuck with one foot off the merry-go-round.
    Immigrants from multiple countries will risk killing themselves to come here everyday.

    The whole world looks to us for their entertainment and loves our culture, if not our politics. A quarter of the world's nations and most of Europe would be swallowed up by Russia, China and the Middle East psychos, if we suddenly left them to fend for themselves.

    We are still the number one country for innovative products and services.

    All of the other so called Utopian countries like Sweden would be shit holes if not for the protection, aid and leadership that the US offers.

    We allow them to be so "great".
    Who the fuck is coming to "get" all of these countries? Sweden's military would fuck up everyone in the region not named Russia. We aren't why Russia hasn't came for Sweden.

    We border a swath of 3rd world countries. Of course they try to come here. A fuck ton of immigrants go to really nice socialist countries.

    You're being the guy at the bar with a tear in his eye during a Toby Keith song.
    And you're the patchouli stanched hipster with the Che Guevara tshirt reading bad poetry in a shitty coffee house.
    Enlist!
    And end up as fucked up as you???


    I don't think so. I can do that all on my own.
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,732

    And hotter city bitches, if you're into women who the only person they hate more than you is themselves.

    #butstill

    Du vet varför du flaggades
  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,885

    salemcoog said:

    Mosster47 said:

    salemcoog said:

    Mosster47 said:

    salemcoog said:

    Mosster47 said:

    salemcoog said:

    AZDuck said:

    salemcoog said:

    AZDuck said:

    salemcoog said:

    AZDuck said:

    salemcoog said:

    AZDuck said:

    Doogles said:

    Trump would have won the popular vote if he needed it to win the presidency.

    The rules of the game he played dictated his strategy. If you can't see that, you're probably still confused how Hillary lost.

    That's dumb. Where was he going to get three million votes?
    Losers change the rules after they lose.

    You've reached reddit status in this thread and I question your reasoning skills to be a Mall cop.
    What rules did I change?

    What did Sweden change last year that is going to bankrupt it? Can you cite to an authority besides your unwashed ass?

    When did the US adopt socialism (democratic or otherwise) as its ruling principle? Can you cite to an authority besides your unwashed ass?

    Donald Trump is not a very popular president. You have to go back to 2004 to find an election where Trump's vote total would have won the popular vote. Back then the US population was 32 million less than it was in 2016.

    His ratings haven't been shooting up since he was inaugurated, either.

    Trump did great with the system in place. But an election with low turnout, both parties' candidates historically unpopular, over a million write-in votes, that's no mandate, fren.
    Winners win.

    Losers make up excuses.

    And it's clear you blew your load about a third of the way into the video if you have to ask what has changed in Sweden. So clean up and watch it again with your hands our of your shorts and pay attention.
    You're right that I didn't watch the video, I can't see them on internet explorer.

    That's why I went looking for some big change to Swedish government or policy on the interwebz. Finding nothing (the Social Democrats and the Greens control a "minority government") I asked you.

    As for the rest, Sweden is demonstrably (1) democratic, (2) solvent, (3) successful.

    So what's gunna change?
    Then shut the fuck up then already.
    No. My very first response in this thread was to your bullshit saying that we can't have nice things because we spend lots of money on foreign policy stuff. I pointed out that the Swedes actually spend comparable amounts on foreign policy stuff (per capita) because they have to pay the freight for their defense as a non-NATO member country and they actually put a decent amount (again, per capita) into their foreign aid budget.

    I don't need to watch a video to know that.

    You never did tell me what changed in Sweden that made them even more socialist-y
    Translated as I think I fucking know everything and don't need to actually pay attention to the subject at hand because I think I'm really cheeky and a handful of libtards really like me.

    If you invested the 1/10 of the time to watch the video than continue to shitpoast, you would realize that your vaunted Sweden has a new leader who doubled down on Socialism recently and that the bills have not come due yet.

    Your about as useful as a fuckin Hondo these days. So get back to wasted my tax dollars shit posting on another subject that you think you know about.
    Right, but money isn't real. They are Sweden. Everyone likes them. There will be no issues.

    http://www.tradingeconomics.com/sweden/government-debt-to-gdp

    Sweden's debt to GDP is half of the US. So when these bills come due they will still be better off than the US.

    Some People forget that our attempt at Socialism is why our debt doubled under Obama.

    Some people are doing that.
    No, our economy was centered on home mortgages, some assholes got greedy and crashed the system. Then they were given 100 cents on the dollar which did nothing for the millions of people and businesses that were screwed when the economy crashed. You can't come out of a depression by lowering taxes and yelling at immigrants.

    The bailout was fucking stupid. The subsidizing of the nation was necessary because the easy option of jumping into WW2 wasn't readily available.

    Until rednecks like you admit that America isn't the greatest country in the world anymore we will be stuck with one foot off the merry-go-round.
    Immigrants from multiple countries will risk killing themselves to come here everyday.

    The whole world looks to us for their entertainment and loves our culture, if not our politics. A quarter of the world's nations and most of Europe would be swallowed up by Russia, China and the Middle East psychos, if we suddenly left them to fend for themselves.

    We are still the number one country for innovative products and services.

    All of the other so called Utopian countries like Sweden would be shit holes if not for the protection, aid and leadership that the US offers.

    We allow them to be so "great".
    Who the fuck is coming to "get" all of these countries? Sweden's military would fuck up everyone in the region not named Russia. We aren't why Russia hasn't came for Sweden.

    We border a swath of 3rd world countries. Of course they try to come here. A fuck ton of immigrants go to really nice socialist countries.

    You're being the guy at the bar with a tear in his eye during a Toby Keith song.
    And you're the patchouli stanched hipster with the Che Guevara tshirt reading bad poetry in a shitty coffee house.
    image

    Go Zags.
    I always root for the Zags.








    Except when they're playing #mydawgs of course
  • LoneStarDawgLoneStarDawg Member Posts: 13,340

    And hotter city bitches, if you're into women who the only person they hate more than you is themselves.

    #butstill

    I think unwelcome photos are classified as rape
  • Dude61Dude61 Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 1,254 Swaye's Wigwam
    Exposing The Soft Underbelly Of Scandinavian "High-Tax Happy-Capitalism"

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-05-18/exposing-soft-underbelly-scandinavian-high-tax-happy-capitalism

    A media mini-industry touts Scandinavia's "happiness" as the result of its high-tax, generous welfare state-capitalism. This mini-industry conveniently fails to report the soft underbelly of Scandinavia's "High-Tax Happy-Capitalism": The high-tax, generous welfare model is just as dependent on unsustainable credit bubbles as every other version of state-capitalism.

    The reality is quite different from this glossy PR narrative. The Scandinavian economies have pursued the same unsustainable debt-bubble "fix" for their structural insolvency as other state-managed nations.


  • AZDuckAZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    edited May 2017
    Dude61 said:

    Exposing The Soft Underbelly Of Scandinavian "High-Tax Happy-Capitalism"

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-05-18/exposing-soft-underbelly-scandinavian-high-tax-happy-capitalism

    A media mini-industry touts Scandinavia's "happiness" as the result of its high-tax, generous welfare state-capitalism. This mini-industry conveniently fails to report the soft underbelly of Scandinavia's "High-Tax Happy-Capitalism": The high-tax, generous welfare model is just as dependent on unsustainable credit bubbles as every other version of state-capitalism.

    The reality is quite different from this glossy PR narrative. The Scandinavian economies have pursued the same unsustainable debt-bubble "fix" for their structural insolvency as other state-managed nations.


    lolzerohedge

    Oh, has SWEDEN IMPLODED YET?!!>11!?!!11?

    image

    Oh. Looks okay for now.

    @LoneStarDawg, plz keep us poasted. Also, please be telling how to get jerb in Sweden, for those who hate America and shit
  • TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    UPDATE FROM SWEDEN:

    It's 69 (lol) degrees, I got a $15 haircut from an Iranian who didn't murder me (however did give me 'fuck off' eyes when I spoke English), and I'm poasting on this shithole while riding the metro home.

    image

    Nice
  • LoneStarDawgLoneStarDawg Member Posts: 13,340
    AZDuck said:

    Dude61 said:

    Exposing The Soft Underbelly Of Scandinavian "High-Tax Happy-Capitalism"

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-05-18/exposing-soft-underbelly-scandinavian-high-tax-happy-capitalism

    A media mini-industry touts Scandinavia's "happiness" as the result of its high-tax, generous welfare state-capitalism. This mini-industry conveniently fails to report the soft underbelly of Scandinavia's "High-Tax Happy-Capitalism": The high-tax, generous welfare model is just as dependent on unsustainable credit bubbles as every other version of state-capitalism.

    The reality is quite different from this glossy PR narrative. The Scandinavian economies have pursued the same unsustainable debt-bubble "fix" for their structural insolvency as other state-managed nations.


    lolzerohedge

    Oh, has SWEDEN IMPLODED YET?!!>11!?!!11?

    image

    Oh. Looks okay for now.

    @LoneStarDawg, plz keep us poasted. Also, please be telling how to get jerb in Sweden, for those who hate America and shit
    Pretty simple:
    1. Work for a Swedish company, express interest in working at the HQ
    2. Have a wife who, in theory, won't divorce you for dragging her to the almost arctic
    3. ???
    4.profit Break even
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,732

    UPDATE FROM SWEDEN:

    It's 69 (lol) degrees, I got a $15 haircut from an Iranian who didn't murder me (however did give me 'fuck off' eyes when I spoke English), and I'm poasting on this shithole while riding the metro home.

    image

    How many times have you been raped today?
    I had to sign a rape NDA at the airport, sorry
    underrated comment
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,183 Standard Supporter

    UPDATE FROM SWEDEN:

    It's 69 (lol) degrees, I got a $15 haircut from an Iranian who didn't murder me (however did give me 'fuck off' eyes when I spoke English), and I'm poasting on this shithole while riding the metro home.

    image

    I remember searching for the perfect words. I was hoping you might change your mind. I remember a soldier sleeping next to me. Riding on the Metro.

  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,885
    AZDuck said:

    Dude61 said:

    Exposing The Soft Underbelly Of Scandinavian "High-Tax Happy-Capitalism"

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-05-18/exposing-soft-underbelly-scandinavian-high-tax-happy-capitalism

    A media mini-industry touts Scandinavia's "happiness" as the result of its high-tax, generous welfare state-capitalism. This mini-industry conveniently fails to report the soft underbelly of Scandinavia's "High-Tax Happy-Capitalism": The high-tax, generous welfare model is just as dependent on unsustainable credit bubbles as every other version of state-capitalism.

    The reality is quite different from this glossy PR narrative. The Scandinavian economies have pursued the same unsustainable debt-bubble "fix" for their structural insolvency as other state-managed nations.


    lolzerohedge

    Oh, has SWEDEN IMPLODED YET?!!>11!?!!11?

    image

    Oh. Looks okay for now.

    @LoneStarDawg, plz keep us poasted. Also, please be telling how to get jerb in Sweden, for those who hate America and shit
    Has the clown watched the video yet?
  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,885

    For those of you who can't analyze:
    Warmer than Seattle
    Cheaper than Seattle
    Better transportation than Seattle

    I'm not saying it's better than the US, but it's better than Seattle<</b>/blockquote>

    Sark>Ty POTD!!!!

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