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Sweden got more socialist, economy now booming

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  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,850 Founders Club
  • TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    You seem awfully ashamed of using Breitbart as your source.
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,183 Standard Supporter

    The Swedes needs some Tudor-like bloodshed to get Princess Sofia on the throne.

    image

    I have no idea what this means but I like it.
    A hot gal licking a fudgecicle. Yeah...oh yeah...so much subliminal messaging there.

    Craves it.

  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,183 Standard Supporter

    AZDuck said:

    Stupid beyond belief.

    If their economy is so great, why again have they been pimping negative interest rates for years, and why again is their household debt skyrocketing?

    Sounds like that will end well...

    If the U.S. economy is so great, why again have we? been pimping negative interest rates for years, and why again is our? household debt skyrocketing?
    We aren't pimping negative interest rates, and we have been stupid for keeping rates low...IMHO they should never have gone below 2% and they should have been ramping them up years ago.

    And no, it won't end well. You think its a coincidence all TV is for the last 2 years is house-flipping shows? That won't end well...
    It will for those who wait.

    Those who jump in and think they are Chip and Joanna are gonna be fucked.

  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,862 Standard Supporter
    For all you "socialism is great" fans just renounce your citizenship and I'll chip in some money for your ticket to whatever socialist paradise you wish to now live in. May I suggest Venezuela?

    This is America we have no room for this bullshit or you!
  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,885
    AZDuck said:

    PurpleJ said:

    AZDuck said:

    PurpleJ said:

    Yes it was poorer in the 1800s before a wave of economic reform and a long period of peace. Relatively low government spending coupled with liberal economic policies (i.e. free market capitalism) sparked a period of growth that continued until the mid 20th century when things eventually started to sour due to socialist policies enacted during the 1950s.

    Except the Social Democrats controlled their parliament since 1890, but never let facts get in the way of a good polemic
    Taxes were kept below 10% of GDP until the 30s and they didn't really start to increase until the 50s, but still.
    Not the case. Most Swedish taxes are paid to localities. Maximum national income tax rate is 25%
    Lets revisit this conversation next year, like when the bills start really rolling in.

    And the whole spirit of the fucktard reporters rant is that we should be doing this. When the reality is that we already did this and have nothing to show for it other than another $8 Trillion in debt.
  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,885

    AZDuck said:

    HI. Sweden, as a non-NATO member, spends much more than most European countries for defense and Swedish defense spending as a proportion of GDP has been comparable to America's for most of the past 50'years, and spending is also rising under the current government. Sweden also maintains a vigorous defense industry which produces most of the armaments purchased by the Swedish armed forces.

    Stockholm is only 430 miles from St. Petersburg.

    BOOM! Roasted.
    Great! I'm sure this military superpower would fare just fine when attacked by anyone other than Norway.

    But do continue to reinforce the strawman, And again, let's visit this again when their bills come due.
  • DooglesDoogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,591 Founders Club
    I'm going to need to see black people before I make a determination on Sweden.
  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 26,950
    Doogles said:

    I'm going to need to see black people before I make a determination on Sweden.

    They sure as fuck ain't beating us in basketball anytime soon.
  • AZDuckAZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    edited May 2017
    salemcoog said:

    AZDuck said:

    PurpleJ said:

    AZDuck said:

    PurpleJ said:

    Yes it was poorer in the 1800s before a wave of economic reform and a long period of peace. Relatively low government spending coupled with liberal economic policies (i.e. free market capitalism) sparked a period of growth that continued until the mid 20th century when things eventually started to sour due to socialist policies enacted during the 1950s.

    Except the Social Democrats controlled their parliament since 1890, but never let facts get in the way of a good polemic
    Taxes were kept below 10% of GDP until the 30s and they didn't really start to increase until the 50s, but still.
    Not the case. Most Swedish taxes are paid to localities. Maximum national income tax rate is 25%
    Lets revisit this conversation next year, like when the bills start really rolling in.

    And the whole spirit of the fucktard reporters rant is that we should be doing this. When the reality is that we already did this and have nothing to show for it other than another $8 Trillion in debt.
    So we ignore the 70+ -year track record of success and bank on Sweden failing in the next year or two?

    OK!

    And America has never done anything close to what Sweden has in terms of health care, welfare, etc.
    Sledog said:

    For all you "socialism is great" fans just renounce your citizenship and I'll chip in some money for your ticket to whatever socialist paradise you wish to now live in. May I suggest Venezuela?

    This is America we have no room for this bullshit or you!

    No room for differences of opinion? Sounds like Venezuela or Russia are more your speed, fren.

    There's nothing in the Constitution about social and economic policy, except "to promote the general welfare," which sounds kinda socialist-y.
    salemcoog said:

    AZDuck said:

    HI. Sweden, as a non-NATO member, spends much more than most European countries for defense and Swedish defense spending as a proportion of GDP has been comparable to America's for most of the past 50'years, and spending is also rising under the current government. Sweden also maintains a vigorous defense industry which produces most of the armaments purchased by the Swedish armed forces.

    Stockholm is only 430 miles from St. Petersburg.

    BOOM! Roasted.
    Great! I'm sure this military superpower would fare just fine when attacked by anyone other than Norway.

    But do continue to reinforce the strawman, And again, let's visit this again when their bills come due.
    The point was, in reference to your earlier poast, that Sweden doesn't have to deal with foreign obligations like the US does. Yet they spend a similar amount of GDP on national defense. The Swedes also spend 1% of GDP on foreign aid versus .19% here in the USA. Now, .19% of USA GDP is a helluva lot more in actual terms than 1% of Sweden, but proportionally, the Swedes do spend a large chunk of their national product on foreign obligations.
  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 26,950
    AZDuck said:

    salemcoog said:

    AZDuck said:

    PurpleJ said:

    AZDuck said:

    PurpleJ said:

    Yes it was poorer in the 1800s before a wave of economic reform and a long period of peace. Relatively low government spending coupled with liberal economic policies (i.e. free market capitalism) sparked a period of growth that continued until the mid 20th century when things eventually started to sour due to socialist policies enacted during the 1950s.

    Except the Social Democrats controlled their parliament since 1890, but never let facts get in the way of a good polemic
    Taxes were kept below 10% of GDP until the 30s and they didn't really start to increase until the 50s, but still.
    Not the case. Most Swedish taxes are paid to localities. Maximum national income tax rate is 25%
    Lets revisit this conversation next year, like when the bills start really rolling in.

    And the whole spirit of the fucktard reporters rant is that we should be doing this. When the reality is that we already did this and have nothing to show for it other than another $8 Trillion in debt.
    So we ignore the 70+ -year track record of success and bank on Sweden failing in the next year or two?

    OK!

    And America has never done anything close to what Sweden has in terms of health care, welfare, etc.
    Sledog said:

    For all you "socialism is great" fans just renounce your citizenship and I'll chip in some money for your ticket to whatever socialist paradise you wish to now live in. May I suggest Venezuela?

    This is America we have no room for this bullshit or you!

    No room for differences of opinion? Sounds like Venezuela or Russia are more your speed, fren.

    There's nothing in the Constitution about social and economic policy, except "to promote the general welfare," which sounds kids socialist-y.
    image
  • doogiedoogie Member Posts: 15,072
    To be clear, the Rich still get to keep their shit, right? We're only talking about sharing the remainder with everybody, right?
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,183 Standard Supporter

    Doogles said:

    I'm going to need to see black people before I make a determination on Sweden.

    They sure as fuck ain't beating us in basketball anytime soon.
    No -but people forget you always have to get by Finland.

    image

  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,183 Standard Supporter
    AZDuck said:

    salemcoog said:

    AZDuck said:

    PurpleJ said:

    AZDuck said:

    PurpleJ said:

    Yes it was poorer in the 1800s before a wave of economic reform and a long period of peace. Relatively low government spending coupled with liberal economic policies (i.e. free market capitalism) sparked a period of growth that continued until the mid 20th century when things eventually started to sour due to socialist policies enacted during the 1950s.

    Except the Social Democrats controlled their parliament since 1890, but never let facts get in the way of a good polemic
    Taxes were kept below 10% of GDP until the 30s and they didn't really start to increase until the 50s, but still.
    Not the case. Most Swedish taxes are paid to localities. Maximum national income tax rate is 25%
    Lets revisit this conversation next year, like when the bills start really rolling in.

    And the whole spirit of the fucktard reporters rant is that we should be doing this. When the reality is that we already did this and have nothing to show for it other than another $8 Trillion in debt.
    So we ignore the 70+ -year track record of success and bank on Sweden failing in the next year or two?

    OK!

    And America has never done anything close to what Sweden has in terms of health care, welfare, etc.
    Sledog said:

    For all you "socialism is great" fans just renounce your citizenship and I'll chip in some money for your ticket to whatever socialist paradise you wish to now live in. May I suggest Venezuela?

    This is America we have no room for this bullshit or you!

    No room for differences of opinion? Sounds like Venezuela or Russia are more your speed, fren.

    There's nothing in the Constitution about social and economic policy, except "to promote the general welfare," which sounds kinda socialist-y.
    salemcoog said:

    AZDuck said:

    HI. Sweden, as a non-NATO member, spends much more than most European countries for defense and Swedish defense spending as a proportion of GDP has been comparable to America's for most of the past 50'years, and spending is also rising under the current government. Sweden also maintains a vigorous defense industry which produces most of the armaments purchased by the Swedish armed forces.

    Stockholm is only 430 miles from St. Petersburg.

    BOOM! Roasted.
    Great! I'm sure this military superpower would fare just fine when attacked by anyone other than Norway.

    But do continue to reinforce the strawman, And again, let's visit this again when their bills come due.
    The point was, in reference to your earlier poast, that Sweden doesn't have to deal with foreign obligations like the US does. Yet they spend a similar amount of GDP on national defense. The Swedes also spend 1% of GDP on foreign aid versus .19% here in the USA. Now, .19% of USA GDP is a helluva lot more in actual terms than 1% of Sweden, but proportionally, the Swedes do spend a large chunk of their national product on foreign obligations.
    They should after all the fucking money we (?) had to spend after they supplied the Nazis with steel.

    #godwin

  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 26,950

    Doogles said:

    I'm going to need to see black people before I make a determination on Sweden.

    They sure as fuck ain't beating us in basketball anytime soon.
    No -but people forget you always have to get by Finland.

    image

    Gross. Build that fucking wall.
  • TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    Doogles said:

    I'm going to need to see black people before I make a determination on Sweden.

    You just couldn't resist, could you?
  • AZDuckAZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    doogie said:

    To be clear, the Rich still get to keep their shit, right? We're only talking about sharing the remainder with everybody, right?

    There are rich people and big multinational corporations in Sweden.

    AstraZeneca
    Electrolux
    Ericsson
    H&M
    Ikea
    Skype
    Spotify
    Volvo
    Skanska

    It's not the People's Republic of Shitville, y'know
  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,885
    edited May 2017
    AZDuck said:

    salemcoog said:

    AZDuck said:

    PurpleJ said:

    AZDuck said:

    PurpleJ said:

    Yes it was poorer in the 1800s before a wave of economic reform and a long period of peace. Relatively low government spending coupled with liberal economic policies (i.e. free market capitalism) sparked a period of growth that continued until the mid 20th century when things eventually started to sour due to socialist policies enacted during the 1950s.

    Except the Social Democrats controlled their parliament since 1890, but never let facts get in the way of a good polemic
    Taxes were kept below 10% of GDP until the 30s and they didn't really start to increase until the 50s, but still.
    Not the case. Most Swedish taxes are paid to localities. Maximum national income tax rate is 25%
    Lets revisit this conversation next year, like when the bills start really rolling in.

    And the whole spirit of the fucktard reporters rant is that we should be doing this. When the reality is that we already did this and have nothing to show for it other than another $8 Trillion in debt.
    So we ignore the 70+ -year track record of success and bank on Sweden failing in the next year or two?

    OK!

    And America has never done anything close to what Sweden has in terms of health care, welfare, etc.
    Sledog said:

    For all you "socialism is great" fans just renounce your citizenship and I'll chip in some money for your ticket to whatever socialist paradise you wish to now live in. May I suggest Venezuela?

    This is America we have no room for this bullshit or you!

    No room for differences of opinion? Sounds like Venezuela or Russia are more your speed, fren.

    There's nothing in the Constitution about social and economic policy, except "to promote the general welfare," which sounds kinda socialist-y.
    salemcoog said:

    AZDuck said:

    HI. Sweden, as a non-NATO member, spends much more than most European countries for defense and Swedish defense spending as a proportion of GDP has been comparable to America's for most of the past 50'years, and spending is also rising under the current government. Sweden also maintains a vigorous defense industry which produces most of the armaments purchased by the Swedish armed forces.

    Stockholm is only 430 miles from St. Petersburg.

    BOOM! Roasted.
    Great! I'm sure this military superpower would fare just fine when attacked by anyone other than Norway.

    But do continue to reinforce the strawman, And again, let's visit this again when their bills come due.
    The point was, in reference to your earlier poast, that Sweden doesn't have to deal with foreign obligations like the US does. Yet they spend a similar amount of GDP on national defense. The Swedes also spend 1% of GDP on foreign aid versus .19% here in the USA. Now, .19% of USA GDP is a helluva lot more in actual terms than 1% of Sweden, but proportionally, the Swedes do spend a large chunk of their national product on foreign obligations.
    Fuck you are a special case. These reforms were just set in motion LAST year. When they started to go full retard Socialist.

    And why are you ignoring the Trillions of dollars given in our welfare state the last 8 years and their lack of results in raising GDP and living wage jobs.

    You are ignoring it because but, but, but Sweden!!!!!!!!!
  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,885
    Stop it Bannon!!! It's nothing but caramel rivers and Ginger bread mountains in Sweden!!!!
  • AZDuckAZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    salemcoog said:

    AZDuck said:

    salemcoog said:

    AZDuck said:

    PurpleJ said:

    AZDuck said:

    PurpleJ said:

    Yes it was poorer in the 1800s before a wave of economic reform and a long period of peace. Relatively low government spending coupled with liberal economic policies (i.e. free market capitalism) sparked a period of growth that continued until the mid 20th century when things eventually started to sour due to socialist policies enacted during the 1950s.

    Except the Social Democrats controlled their parliament since 1890, but never let facts get in the way of a good polemic
    Taxes were kept below 10% of GDP until the 30s and they didn't really start to increase until the 50s, but still.
    Not the case. Most Swedish taxes are paid to localities. Maximum national income tax rate is 25%
    Lets revisit this conversation next year, like when the bills start really rolling in.

    And the whole spirit of the fucktard reporters rant is that we should be doing this. When the reality is that we already did this and have nothing to show for it other than another $8 Trillion in debt.
    So we ignore the 70+ -year track record of success and bank on Sweden failing in the next year or two?

    OK!

    And America has never done anything close to what Sweden has in terms of health care, welfare, etc.
    Sledog said:

    For all you "socialism is great" fans just renounce your citizenship and I'll chip in some money for your ticket to whatever socialist paradise you wish to now live in. May I suggest Venezuela?

    This is America we have no room for this bullshit or you!

    No room for differences of opinion? Sounds like Venezuela or Russia are more your speed, fren.

    There's nothing in the Constitution about social and economic policy, except "to promote the general welfare," which sounds kinda socialist-y.
    salemcoog said:

    AZDuck said:

    HI. Sweden, as a non-NATO member, spends much more than most European countries for defense and Swedish defense spending as a proportion of GDP has been comparable to America's for most of the past 50'years, and spending is also rising under the current government. Sweden also maintains a vigorous defense industry which produces most of the armaments purchased by the Swedish armed forces.

    Stockholm is only 430 miles from St. Petersburg.

    BOOM! Roasted.
    Great! I'm sure this military superpower would fare just fine when attacked by anyone other than Norway.

    But do continue to reinforce the strawman, And again, let's visit this again when their bills come due.
    The point was, in reference to your earlier poast, that Sweden doesn't have to deal with foreign obligations like the US does. Yet they spend a similar amount of GDP on national defense. The Swedes also spend 1% of GDP on foreign aid versus .19% here in the USA. Now, .19% of USA GDP is a helluva lot more in actual terms than 1% of Sweden, but proportionally, the Swedes do spend a large chunk of their national product on foreign obligations.
    Fuck you are a special case. These reforms were just set in motion LAST year. When they started to go full retard Socialist.

    And why are you ignoring the Trillions of dollars given in our welfare state the last 8 years and their lack of results in raising GDP and living wage jobs.

    You are ignoring it because but, but, but Sweden!!!!!!!!!
    link, motherfucker?

    Also, never let facts get in the way of a good argument. GWB raised welfare spending thru Medicare Part D than Obama did with Obummercare. At least according to Forbes.

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