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Nicholas Bolton, 3* 2018 ILB, Frisco (Lone Star), TX (HE GONE)

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  • FKA_Mousecop
    FKA_Mousecop Member Posts: 2,054
    Tequilla said:

    Given that we generally don't hand out offers like drunken sailors ... I think it is fair to say that anybody that we extend an offer to there's more than just a passing interest at the time of the offer from both sides

    Yeah that's a good point, because "apparently" we also really like Bobby Brown out of Lamar HS, but he didn't get an offer, so he probably didn't reciprocate that interest.
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  • Nurple
    Nurple Member Posts: 686
    FKA_Mousecop said:

    Nurple said:

    Think we have a chance at Coburn then we think originally a west coast kid who wants to be out here regardless of school.

    Yeah I saw that quote too where he calls himself a "West Coast Guy". I just don't want to read too much into it and get my hopes up like a doog.
    Read it so hard
    and deep for the boreds
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  • Nurple
    Nurple Member Posts: 686
    Let's agree no matter what happens this year is and could be a bonus but next year could be a god send.
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  • FKA_Mousecop
    FKA_Mousecop Member Posts: 2,054
    Nurple said:

    Let's agree no matter what happens this year is and could be a bonus but next year could be a god send.

    Yeah I'm not sure 2019s In-State crop is any more than just okay (from what I've heard), so grabbing from Texas could be great. 2020 In-State going to be legit though.
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  • pat_hm
    pat_hm Member Posts: 941
    Kwiatkowski working Texas as well.




    Lubick is done with his position group so I'd expect him to be working to fill our 10 other spots, with a few of them coming from Texas. It's pretty clear UW is investing their some of their best resources in the lone star state.
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  • whlinder
    whlinder Member Posts: 5,273
    I assume we're spending some time in Texas due to
    http://hardcorehusky.com/forums/#/discussion/39231/but-how-is-the-big-12-a-shitty-conference
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  • Dennis_DeYoung
    Dennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754
    whlinder said:

    I assume we're spending some time in Texas due to
    http://hardcorehusky.com/forums/#/discussion/39231/but-how-is-the-big-12-a-shitty-conference

    We are in the 'throw shit at the wall and hope it sticks' phase of grieving our DL recruiting.

    We? did this with Strausser as well.

    "ALL IT TAKES IS ONE KID TO BUY IT!!"

    Lulz.
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  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
    Dennis_DeYoung said:

    whlinder said:

    I assume we're spending some time in Texas due to
    http://hardcorehusky.com/forums/#/discussion/39231/but-how-is-the-big-12-a-shitty-conference

    We are in the 'throw shit at the wall and hope it sticks' phase of grieving our DL recruiting.

    We? did this with Strausser as well.

    "ALL IT TAKES IS ONE KID TO BUY IT!!"

    Lulz.
    On the bright side, we did culled out Strausser hopefully Malloe and @Babushka are next.
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  • Gladstone
    Gladstone Member Posts: 16,419
    pat_hm said:

    Kwiatkowski working Texas as well.




    Lubick is done with his position group so I'd expect him to be working to fill our 10 other spots, with a few of them coming from Texas. It's pretty clear UW is investing their some of their best resources in the lone star state.
    How about instead we have Lubick talk to motherfucking Harrison at Garfield. Bizarro world.
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  • FremontTroll
    FremontTroll Member Posts: 4,744
    pat_hm said:

    Kwiatkowski working Texas as well.




    Lubick is done with his position group so I'd expect him to be working to fill our 10 other spots, with a few of them coming from Texas. It's pretty clear UW is investing their some of their best resources in the lone star state.
    Other programs' coaches read these boreds. Don't give them free information on where Kwiatkowski is recruiting!!!
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  • FKA_Mousecop
    FKA_Mousecop Member Posts: 2,054
    Gladstone said:

    pat_hm said:

    Kwiatkowski working Texas as well.




    Lubick is done with his position group so I'd expect him to be working to fill our 10 other spots, with a few of them coming from Texas. It's pretty clear UW is investing their some of their best resources in the lone star state.
    How about instead we have Lubick talk to motherfucking Harrison at Garfield. Bizarro world.
    Yeah I'm not sure how valid is, but one of the national guys crystal balled him to Oregon the last few days. I have no idea why'd he'd do the unless they miss on Cota and he's dead set on being a WR.

    But yet again, it seems like coach Heyward is his head recruiter, so if he wants to be their 3rd safety commit, I don't understand. Only way I'd be okay with that is if we can get Hufanga but that's unlikely. It's still early, who knows with either guy.
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  • Babushka
    Babushka Member Posts: 211
    WeakarmCobra said:

    Dennis_DeYoung said:

    whlinder said:

    I assume we're spending some time in Texas due to
    http://hardcorehusky.com/forums/#/discussion/39231/but-how-is-the-big-12-a-shitty-conference

    We are in the 'throw shit at the wall and hope it sticks' phase of grieving our DL recruiting.

    We? did this with Strausser as well.

    "ALL IT TAKES IS ONE KID TO BUY IT!!"

    Lulz.
    On the bright side, we did culled out Strausser hopefully Malloe and @Babushka are next.
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  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823


    Fuck off @Tequilla
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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,102
    WeakarmCobra said:



    Fuck off @Tequilla
    Either way I win
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  • backthepack
    backthepack Member Posts: 19,937
    Tequilla said:

    WeakarmCobra said:



    Fuck off @Tequilla
    Either way I win
    Christ
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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,144
    I'm always surprised guys like Bolton are so lowly rated. He's short, I get that, but this guy has a high floor.

    At worst you get a special teams killer that can really fucking hit. He's not elite because of his size and questionable speed, but hitting ability and instincts are so ignored in TBS ratings.
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  • whatshouldicareabout
    whatshouldicareabout Member Posts: 12,991
    RoadDawg55 said:

    I'm always surprised guys like Bolton are so lowly rated. He's short, I get that, but this guy has a high floor.

    At worst you get a special teams killer that can really fucking hit. He's not elite because of his size and questionable speed, but hitting ability and instincts are so ignored in TBS ratings.

    Fotu 2.0?

    http://forum.hardcorehusky.com/discussion/17601/what-im-hearing-re-fotu/p1
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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,144
    whatshouldicareabout said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    I'm always surprised guys like Bolton are so lowly rated. He's short, I get that, but this guy has a high floor.

    At worst you get a special teams killer that can really fucking hit. He's not elite because of his size and questionable speed, but hitting ability and instincts are so ignored in TBS ratings.

    Fotu 2.0?

    http://forum.hardcorehusky.com/discussion/17601/what-im-hearing-re-fotu/p1
    That's a good counterpoint, but this guy is bigger.

    Fotu did have that highlight film though. I was a fan. We still should have taken him over Manu from Idaho.
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  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    NEsnake12 said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    whatshouldicareabout said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    I'm always surprised guys like Bolton are so lowly rated. He's short, I get that, but this guy has a high floor.

    At worst you get a special teams killer that can really fucking hit. He's not elite because of his size and questionable speed, but hitting ability and instincts are so ignored in TBS ratings.

    Fotu 2.0?

    http://forum.hardcorehusky.com/discussion/17601/what-im-hearing-re-fotu/p1
    That's a good counterpoint, but this guy is bigger.

    Fotu did have that highlight film though. I was a fan. We still should have taken him over Manu from Idaho.
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    That was great run for Coleman, help to shake off fumbling away the Arizona game 2 years ago.
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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,102
    RoadDawg55 said:

    I'm always surprised guys like Bolton are so lowly rated. He's short, I get that, but this guy has a high floor.

    At worst you get a special teams killer that can really fucking hit. He's not elite because of his size and questionable speed, but hitting ability and instincts are so ignored in TBS ratings.

    So fucking clueless ...

    Your last comment is the single dumbest thing I've ever read from you ...

    You are advocating that we should take a guy who isn't tall, long, big, or fast. In other words, instead of having unique physical attributes (the kind of recruit we should be looking for in each and every recruit), we should take a guy that in 2-3 years you will say is a JAG and will want to LEAVE because his only contribution is on special teams.

    Given your description, this is a great player for Oregon St. At Washington, we have the ability to pursue guys that offer rare athletic ability often combined with a kid that has brains ... best of both worlds. 5-10 years ago getting an Oregon St caliber player was what we were recruiting and at times an upgrade ... but this isn't 5-10 years ago.
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    Tequilla said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    I'm always surprised guys like Bolton are so lowly rated. He's short, I get that, but this guy has a high floor.

    At worst you get a special teams killer that can really fucking hit. He's not elite because of his size and questionable speed, but hitting ability and instincts are so ignored in TBS ratings.

    So fucking clueless ...

    Your last comment is the single dumbest thing I've ever read from you ...

    You are advocating that we should take a guy who isn't tall, long, big, or fast. In other words, instead of having unique physical attributes (the kind of recruit we should be looking for in each and every recruit), we should take a guy that in 2-3 years you will say is a JAG and will want to LEAVE because his only contribution is on special teams.

    Given your description, this is a great player for Oregon St. At Washington, we have the ability to pursue guys that offer rare athletic ability often combined with a kid that has brains ... best of both worlds. 5-10 years ago getting an Oregon St caliber player was what we were recruiting and at times an upgrade ... but this isn't 5-10 years ago.
    Yeah that's not what he's saying at all
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    edited June 2017
    Fuck
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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,102
    dnc said:

    Tequilla said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    I'm always surprised guys like Bolton are so lowly rated. He's short, I get that, but this guy has a high floor.

    At worst you get a special teams killer that can really fucking hit. He's not elite because of his size and questionable speed, but hitting ability and instincts are so ignored in TBS ratings.

    So fucking clueless ...

    Your last comment is the single dumbest thing I've ever read from you ...

    You are advocating that we should take a guy who isn't tall, long, big, or fast. In other words, instead of having unique physical attributes (the kind of recruit we should be looking for in each and every recruit), we should take a guy that in 2-3 years you will say is a JAG and will want to LEAVE because his only contribution is on special teams.

    Given your description, this is a great player for Oregon St. At Washington, we have the ability to pursue guys that offer rare athletic ability often combined with a kid that has brains ... best of both worlds. 5-10 years ago getting an Oregon St caliber player was what we were recruiting and at times an upgrade ... but this isn't 5-10 years ago.
    Yeah that's not what he's saying at all
    I haven't watched this kid's film and I'm sure he's a nice player otherwise we wouldn't be at least talking to him ...

    And while I'm not all about the stars what a 3 star means to me is that he is a good to very good player that can be a solid starter for a mid-tier to slightly above Top 25 caliber team. There's nothing wrong with that.

    But when you are putting your hat in the ring as a national championship contender, these aren't guys you want anywhere in the program near the front of your depth chart. If they are playing you are often left thinking that that player is a half step slow or just not big enough to shed a block or tip a pass or whatever.

    BBK is a nice player and I have nothing against him but he's the definition of that 3 star player to me. We can win the P12 with him playing a lot of snaps. But when you play a USC or Alabama or school like that he's just not quite good enough.

    So whether Dead Dog was talking about this kid for UW or just the star process in general, given the description he gave of him he sounds EXACTLY like what a good 3 star player is to me. And you don't need many (if any) of those guys in a top tier program.
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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,144
    FremontTroll said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    whatshouldicareabout said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    I'm always surprised guys like Bolton are so lowly rated. He's short, I get that, but this guy has a high floor.

    At worst you get a special teams killer that can really fucking hit. He's not elite because of his size and questionable speed, but hitting ability and instincts are so ignored in TBS ratings.

    Fotu 2.0?

    http://forum.hardcorehusky.com/discussion/17601/what-im-hearing-re-fotu/p1
    That's a good counterpoint, but this guy is bigger.

    Fotu did have that highlight film though. I was a fan. We still should have taken him over Manu from Idaho.
    Sure, in hindsight it looks like that is the case so far. But you also wanted him over BBK and that looks wrong thus far.

    I'd also like to point out @chuck went against the grain and called both Beavers and BBK players. One of the best at stocking teen boy film IMO.
    I'm a fan of Ben Hurr.

    There is also this thing going on at UW called player development. Players coached up under Pete and this defensive staff are going to be better than guys coached by Helfrich, Pellum, and Brady Hoke.

    Pepsi is right in that we have no need to Fotu whatever the fuck from Steilacoom, but we all know this same guy would be a lot better player at UW.
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