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So it's those websites that sledog got the news that Obamacare is costing us trillions?doogie said:Washington Post, CNN ABC NBC and more have all been exposed generating and perpetuating the fake news phenomenon.
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http://www.weeklystandard.com/obamacare-now-estimated-to-cost-2.6-trillion-in-first-decade/article/6484132001400ex said:
So it's those websites that sledog got the news that Obamacare is costing us trillions?doogie said:Washington Post, CNN ABC NBC and more have all been exposed generating and perpetuating the fake news phenomenon.
This must be what you are referring to.
Not counting the huge increases in premium's forced on the American public.
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It's almost like you forget there are additional revenues.Sledog said:
http://www.weeklystandard.com/obamacare-now-estimated-to-cost-2.6-trillion-in-first-decade/article/6484132001400ex said:
So it's those websites that sledog got the news that Obamacare is costing us trillions?doogie said:Washington Post, CNN ABC NBC and more have all been exposed generating and perpetuating the fake news phenomenon.
This must be what you are referring to.
Not counting the huge increases in premium's forced on the American public. -
I'm certain someone types this shit for you.2001400ex said:
It's almost like you forget there are additional revenues.Sledog said:
http://www.weeklystandard.com/obamacare-now-estimated-to-cost-2.6-trillion-in-first-decade/article/6484132001400ex said:
So it's those websites that sledog got the news that Obamacare is costing us trillions?doogie said:Washington Post, CNN ABC NBC and more have all been exposed generating and perpetuating the fake news phenomenon.
This must be what you are referring to.
Not counting the huge increases in premium's forced on the American public. -
Now you are saying I'm a successful enough professional blogger to pay for a ghost writer?Sledog said:
I'm certain someone types this shit for you.2001400ex said:
It's almost like you forget there are additional revenues.Sledog said:
http://www.weeklystandard.com/obamacare-now-estimated-to-cost-2.6-trillion-in-first-decade/article/6484132001400ex said:
So it's those websites that sledog got the news that Obamacare is costing us trillions?doogie said:Washington Post, CNN ABC NBC and more have all been exposed generating and perpetuating the fake news phenomenon.
This must be what you are referring to.
Not counting the huge increases in premium's forced on the American public. -
No, you're too stupid to capable typing considering the answers.2001400ex said:
Now you are saying I'm a successful enough professional blogger to pay for a ghost writer?Sledog said:
I'm certain someone types this shit for you.2001400ex said:
It's almost like you forget there are additional revenues.Sledog said:
http://www.weeklystandard.com/obamacare-now-estimated-to-cost-2.6-trillion-in-first-decade/article/6484132001400ex said:
So it's those websites that sledog got the news that Obamacare is costing us trillions?doogie said:Washington Post, CNN ABC NBC and more have all been exposed generating and perpetuating the fake news phenomenon.
This must be what you are referring to.
Not counting the huge increases in premium's forced on the American public. -
IronicSledog said:
No, you're too stupid to capable typing considering the answers.2001400ex said:
Now you are saying I'm a successful enough professional blogger to pay for a ghost writer?Sledog said:
I'm certain someone types this shit for you.2001400ex said:
It's almost like you forget there are additional revenues.Sledog said:
http://www.weeklystandard.com/obamacare-now-estimated-to-cost-2.6-trillion-in-first-decade/article/6484132001400ex said:
So it's those websites that sledog got the news that Obamacare is costing us trillions?doogie said:Washington Post, CNN ABC NBC and more have all been exposed generating and perpetuating the fake news phenomenon.
This must be what you are referring to.
Not counting the huge increases in premium's forced on the American public. -
If a return to the 80s includes stuffing you back in the womb and encouraging your 2 dad's to have an abortion, than count me in.2001400ex said:Who didn't like the cold war and arms race.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/let-it-be-an-arms-race-trump-doubles-down-on-nuclear-proliferation-153229263.html -
Pure sophistry, Hondo. Dems and you love to replace "debt" with "deficit" to mask the overall debt situation. It's like a bum arguing that he's "making more money begging this month than last." BFD. Being a little less underwater doesn't change the fact a person is still drowning.2001400ex said:
Because you believe fake news. The deficit is 1/3 now of what it was in Bush's last budget. How can it cost us trillions?Sledog said:
If we spent more previously why is this costing TRILLIONS?dhdawg said:
We spend more for worse outcomes. I don't think that is superiorPurple_Pills said:
No such thing as "free healthcare." Just because everyone else has an inferior system doesn't mean we should either. Scraping that fascist unaffordable care act will save billions in the short term, trillions in the long run.dhdawg said:
the cowards who don't think that is enough are ironically calling other people snowflakes.
and since everyone loves to ask the question about free healthcare, which every other modern nation has, how do you propose we pay for a nuclear arms race? -
And wth tax cuts and infrastructure spending, Trump is going to fix the deficit? Just watch, your news sources will go from "the sky is falling because of debt/deficit and labor participation" to "look how great this economy is" in about a month.TurdBuffer said:
Pure sophistry, Hondo. Dems and you love to replace "debt" with "deficit" to mask the overall debt situation. It's like a bum arguing that he's "making more money begging this month than last." BFD. Being a little less underwater doesn't change the fact a person is still drowning.2001400ex said:
Because you believe fake news. The deficit is 1/3 now of what it was in Bush's last budget. How can it cost us trillions?Sledog said:
If we spent more previously why is this costing TRILLIONS?dhdawg said:
We spend more for worse outcomes. I don't think that is superiorPurple_Pills said:
No such thing as "free healthcare." Just because everyone else has an inferior system doesn't mean we should either. Scraping that fascist unaffordable care act will save billions in the short term, trillions in the long run.dhdawg said:
the cowards who don't think that is enough are ironically calling other people snowflakes.
and since everyone loves to ask the question about free healthcare, which every other modern nation has, how do you propose we pay for a nuclear arms race? -
Not to mention a rise in military spending2001400ex said:
And wth tax cuts and infrastructure spending, Trump is going to fix the deficit? Just watch, your news sources will go from "the sky is falling because of debt/deficit and labor participation" to "look how great this economy is" in about a month.TurdBuffer said:
Pure sophistry, Hondo. Dems and you love to replace "debt" with "deficit" to mask the overall debt situation. It's like a bum arguing that he's "making more money begging this month than last." BFD. Being a little less underwater doesn't change the fact a person is still drowning.2001400ex said:
Because you believe fake news. The deficit is 1/3 now of what it was in Bush's last budget. How can it cost us trillions?Sledog said:
If we spent more previously why is this costing TRILLIONS?dhdawg said:
We spend more for worse outcomes. I don't think that is superiorPurple_Pills said:
No such thing as "free healthcare." Just because everyone else has an inferior system doesn't mean we should either. Scraping that fascist unaffordable care act will save billions in the short term, trillions in the long run.dhdawg said:
the cowards who don't think that is enough are ironically calling other people snowflakes.
and since everyone loves to ask the question about free healthcare, which every other modern nation has, how do you propose we pay for a nuclear arms race? -
There's no such thing as a "free market" in healthcare either. Nobody wakes up in the morning and says "I think I'll spend three weeks in the oncology ward at Harborview, have all my hair fall out, and get my house foreclosed on because the insurance I can barely afford is playing games about paying my claim."Purple_Pills said:
No such thing as "free healthcare." Just because everyone else has an inferior system doesn't mean we should either. Scraping that fascist unaffordable care act will save billions in the short term, trillions in the long run.dhdawg said:
the cowards who don't think that is enough are ironically calling other people snowflakes.
and since everyone loves to ask the question about free healthcare, which every other modern nation has, how do you propose we pay for a nuclear arms race? -
Trump's gonna do what Hillary did, just without her ( and you). Relax.
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That's the crazy part. My buddy has our firms best insurance, it's $1,500 a month (his cost is like $600). His wife had a brain tumor 5 years ago. Last month they found the remaining had started to grow again, so radiation is the easiest and best treatment (next step is to cut her head open again if this doesn't work).AZDuck said:
There's no such thing as a "free market" in healthcare either. Nobody wakes up in the morning and says "I think I'll spend three weeks in the oncology ward at Harborview, have all my hair fall out, and get my house foreclosed on because the insurance I can barely afford is playing games about paying my claim."Purple_Pills said:
No such thing as "free healthcare." Just because everyone else has an inferior system doesn't mean we should either. Scraping that fascist unaffordable care act will save billions in the short term, trillions in the long run.dhdawg said:
the cowards who don't think that is enough are ironically calling other people snowflakes.
and since everyone loves to ask the question about free healthcare, which every other modern nation has, how do you propose we pay for a nuclear arms race?
The insurance company still won't confirm in writing that it will cover the cost, 5 weeks into radiation. Chances are they will, be might have to fight for it.
But it's shit like that that actually needs to be fixed in the health system. That Obamacare didn't address. -
Your straw man existed long before Obamacare and GOP wanted to address it but we're stonewalled.
You lost. You get NO say. Sit quietly. -
We?doogie said:Your straw man existed long before Obamacare and GOP wanted to address it but we're stonewalled.
You lost. You get NO say. Sit quietly.
When the fuck did Republicans put forth a plan to fix issues like this? You do know that they control Congress so it would be very easy to get a fix like that to the president's desk. And would bipartisan.
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You should shut your fucking ass.doogie said:Your straw man existed long before Obamacare and GOP wanted to address it but we're stonewalled.
You lost. You get NO say. Sit quietly.
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Especially in the USA. I think it's funny how so many people think we have more of a free market healthcare system operating in this country than others simply because we don't have universal health care or whatever it's called these days.AZDuck said:There's no such thing as a "free market" in healthcare either.
To anyone who thinks otherwise, go look at how many pages of healthcare and healthcare insurance regulations exist at the state and federal level. Then, consider all the court rulings. After that, you'll see that almost everything is controlled by the government.
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Burn it down
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Not to mention there is the requirement to provide health care first then ask for money later in the ER. This means that those with insurance and cash pay for those without. We already have socialised medicine regardless of what it's called.Fenderbender123 said:
Especially in the USA. I think it's funny how so many people think we have more of a free market healthcare system operating in this country than others simply because we don't have universal health care or whatever it's called these days.AZDuck said:There's no such thing as a "free market" in healthcare either.
To anyone who thinks otherwise, go look at how many pages of healthcare and healthcare insurance regulations exist at the state and federal level. Then, consider all the court rulings. After that, you'll see that almost everything is controlled by the government. -
All those regulations didn't stop Hemsley from taking a billion in profit. A lot of that profit coming from denying people coverage
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Nope. They were to busy repealing obamacare 50 times without ever offering an alternative. Now when trump keeps the good parts, he'll take credit for it.2001400ex said:
We?doogie said:Your straw man existed long before Obamacare and GOP wanted to address it but we're stonewalled.
You lost. You get NO say. Sit quietly.
When the fuck did Republicans put forth a plan to fix issues like this? You do know that they control Congress so it would be very easy to get a fix like that to the president's desk. And would bipartisan.
You are a dumbfuck if you believe what you wrote.
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Obama was not going to give an inch and the GOP knew they didn't have the votes. Obamacare is all democrat all the time. If the GOP scraps it they deserve the creditdhdawg said:
Nope. They were to busy repealing obamacare 50 times without ever offering an alternative. Now when trump keeps the good parts, he'll take credit for it.2001400ex said:
We?doogie said:Your straw man existed long before Obamacare and GOP wanted to address it but we're stonewalled.
You lost. You get NO say. Sit quietly.
When the fuck did Republicans put forth a plan to fix issues like this? You do know that they control Congress so it would be very easy to get a fix like that to the president's desk. And would bipartisan.
You are a dumbfuck if you believe what you wrote.
You have to be a special kind of stupid liar to keep saying that its the GOP fault that a bill that none of them voted for is their fault. There was no debate. The democrats were told to vote yes and like the good little lap dogs they are, they did.
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If Obama wasn't giving an inch he would have gone after the public option at least. Instead he caved and we got the shitty nixon/dole/heritage foundation reform with the Democrat's name attached to it.RaceBannon said:
Obama was not going to give an inch and the GOP knew they didn't have the votes. Obamacare is all democrat all the time. If the GOP scraps it they deserve the creditdhdawg said:
Nope. They were to busy repealing obamacare 50 times without ever offering an alternative. Now when trump keeps the good parts, he'll take credit for it.2001400ex said:
We?doogie said:Your straw man existed long before Obamacare and GOP wanted to address it but we're stonewalled.
You lost. You get NO say. Sit quietly.
When the fuck did Republicans put forth a plan to fix issues like this? You do know that they control Congress so it would be very easy to get a fix like that to the president's desk. And would bipartisan.
You are a dumbfuck if you believe what you wrote.
You have to be a special kind of stupid liar to keep saying that its the GOP fault that a bill that none of them voted for is their fault. There was no debate. The democrats were told to vote yes and like the good little lap dogs they are, they did.
And we wonder why the democrats never win in November -
Actually that's not how it went down. At all. There were many revisions and some Democrats pushed back until they got what they wanted in the bill. And since Obamacare there has been a few revisions to the bill, that we bipartisan.RaceBannon said:
Obama was not going to give an inch and the GOP knew they didn't have the votes. Obamacare is all democrat all the time. If the GOP scraps it they deserve the creditdhdawg said:
Nope. They were to busy repealing obamacare 50 times without ever offering an alternative. Now when trump keeps the good parts, he'll take credit for it.2001400ex said:
We?doogie said:Your straw man existed long before Obamacare and GOP wanted to address it but we're stonewalled.
You lost. You get NO say. Sit quietly.
When the fuck did Republicans put forth a plan to fix issues like this? You do know that they control Congress so it would be very easy to get a fix like that to the president's desk. And would bipartisan.
You are a dumbfuck if you believe what you wrote.
You have to be a special kind of stupid liar to keep saying that its the GOP fault that a bill that none of them voted for is their fault. There was no debate. The democrats were told to vote yes and like the good little lap dogs they are, they did.
But you are right on some kind of special stupid. -
Regulations actually help insurance companies make money. Regulations are the biggest reason why everyone has to have health insurance in the first place if they need medical care.dhdawg said:All those regulations didn't stop Hemsley from taking a billion in profit. A lot of that profit coming from denying people coverage
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Yes you are since you keep peddling the lie. So Obama negotiated with democrats and that's the GOP's fault?2001400ex said:
Actually that's not how it went down. At all. There were many revisions and some Democrats pushed back until they got what they wanted in the bill. And since Obamacare there has been a few revisions to the bill, that we bipartisan.RaceBannon said:
Obama was not going to give an inch and the GOP knew they didn't have the votes. Obamacare is all democrat all the time. If the GOP scraps it they deserve the creditdhdawg said:
Nope. They were to busy repealing obamacare 50 times without ever offering an alternative. Now when trump keeps the good parts, he'll take credit for it.2001400ex said:
We?doogie said:Your straw man existed long before Obamacare and GOP wanted to address it but we're stonewalled.
You lost. You get NO say. Sit quietly.
When the fuck did Republicans put forth a plan to fix issues like this? You do know that they control Congress so it would be very easy to get a fix like that to the president's desk. And would bipartisan.
You are a dumbfuck if you believe what you wrote.
You have to be a special kind of stupid liar to keep saying that its the GOP fault that a bill that none of them voted for is their fault. There was no debate. The democrats were told to vote yes and like the good little lap dogs they are, they did.
But you are right on some kind of special stupid.
You own that bitch. -
And that was his undoing. FDR, LBJ, Reagan, etc wouldn't have "negotiated" with their own party. They would have gotten what they wanted2001400ex said:
Actually that's not how it went down. At all. There were many revisions and some Democrats pushed back until they got what they wanted in the bill. And since Obamacare there has been a few revisions to the bill, that we bipartisan.RaceBannon said:
Obama was not going to give an inch and the GOP knew they didn't have the votes. Obamacare is all democrat all the time. If the GOP scraps it they deserve the creditdhdawg said:
Nope. They were to busy repealing obamacare 50 times without ever offering an alternative. Now when trump keeps the good parts, he'll take credit for it.2001400ex said:
We?doogie said:Your straw man existed long before Obamacare and GOP wanted to address it but we're stonewalled.
You lost. You get NO say. Sit quietly.
When the fuck did Republicans put forth a plan to fix issues like this? You do know that they control Congress so it would be very easy to get a fix like that to the president's desk. And would bipartisan.
You are a dumbfuck if you believe what you wrote.
You have to be a special kind of stupid liar to keep saying that its the GOP fault that a bill that none of them voted for is their fault. There was no debate. The democrats were told to vote yes and like the good little lap dogs they are, they did.
But you are right on some kind of special stupid. -
Yeah the way it went down was lame. Obama thought after it was passed legislators would come together to pass fixes, which he clearly miscalculated. He did reach out to Republicans and thought that since the insurance mandate was a conservative philosophy that he could convince Republicans to jump on board too. Which he was wrong again.dhdawg said:
And that was his undoing. FDR, LBJ, Reagan, etc wouldn't have "negotiated" with their own party. They would have gotten what they wanted2001400ex said:
Actually that's not how it went down. At all. There were many revisions and some Democrats pushed back until they got what they wanted in the bill. And since Obamacare there has been a few revisions to the bill, that we bipartisan.RaceBannon said:
Obama was not going to give an inch and the GOP knew they didn't have the votes. Obamacare is all democrat all the time. If the GOP scraps it they deserve the creditdhdawg said:
Nope. They were to busy repealing obamacare 50 times without ever offering an alternative. Now when trump keeps the good parts, he'll take credit for it.2001400ex said:
We?doogie said:Your straw man existed long before Obamacare and GOP wanted to address it but we're stonewalled.
You lost. You get NO say. Sit quietly.
When the fuck did Republicans put forth a plan to fix issues like this? You do know that they control Congress so it would be very easy to get a fix like that to the president's desk. And would bipartisan.
You are a dumbfuck if you believe what you wrote.
You have to be a special kind of stupid liar to keep saying that its the GOP fault that a bill that none of them voted for is their fault. There was no debate. The democrats were told to vote yes and like the good little lap dogs they are, they did.
But you are right on some kind of special stupid.
But Race is fucked up on his assessment of how it went down. -
Imagine how much better we would live if we could just eliminate military spendingdhdawg said:
Not to mention a rise in military spending2001400ex said:
And wth tax cuts and infrastructure spending, Trump is going to fix the deficit? Just watch, your news sources will go from "the sky is falling because of debt/deficit and labor participation" to "look how great this economy is" in about a month.TurdBuffer said:
Pure sophistry, Hondo. Dems and you love to replace "debt" with "deficit" to mask the overall debt situation. It's like a bum arguing that he's "making more money begging this month than last." BFD. Being a little less underwater doesn't change the fact a person is still drowning.2001400ex said:
Because you believe fake news. The deficit is 1/3 now of what it was in Bush's last budget. How can it cost us trillions?Sledog said:
If we spent more previously why is this costing TRILLIONS?dhdawg said:
We spend more for worse outcomes. I don't think that is superiorPurple_Pills said:
No such thing as "free healthcare." Just because everyone else has an inferior system doesn't mean we should either. Scraping that fascist unaffordable care act will save billions in the short term, trillions in the long run.dhdawg said:
the cowards who don't think that is enough are ironically calling other people snowflakes.
and since everyone loves to ask the question about free healthcare, which every other modern nation has, how do you propose we pay for a nuclear arms race?
