Obamacare premiums up 116%
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Single payer isn't evil. I guess it is if you work for Blue Cross or something.Southerndawg said:
Anyone paying attention knows that Obamacare was never intended to work. It was meant to fail spectacularly so the political left would have the leverage they need to push the masses to 100% government run "single payer" healthcare. Having control of that much of the economy, particularly in a sector that has such inelastic demand results in complete and perpetual political power, which is exactly what the end game is. Throw in "free college education" and open borders over flowing with guaranteed votes and it's game over. This is the culmination of over a century of "progressive" politics. #draintheswamp is too late. -
Sure it's evil there is always a shortage of "payers" why can't you socialist buffoons ever see that it doesn't work!Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
Single payer isn't evil. I guess it is if you work for Blue Cross or something.Southerndawg said:
Anyone paying attention knows that Obamacare was never intended to work. It was meant to fail spectacularly so the political left would have the leverage they need to push the masses to 100% government run "single payer" healthcare. Having control of that much of the economy, particularly in a sector that has such inelastic demand results in complete and perpetual political power, which is exactly what the end game is. Throw in "free college education" and open borders over flowing with guaranteed votes and it's game over. This is the culmination of over a century of "progressive" politics. #draintheswamp is too late.
Socialists ALWAYS run out of other peoples money. (Maggie the Iron Bitch"
Standing offer for all of you "progressives" (code for commie) I'll help you pack as you leave for whatever "socialist paradise" you choose.
GTFOOMC! -
Sledog said:
Sure it's evil there is always a shortage of "payers" why can't you socialist buffoons ever see that it doesn't work!Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
Single payer isn't evil. I guess it is if you work for Blue Cross or something.Southerndawg said:
Anyone paying attention knows that Obamacare was never intended to work. It was meant to fail spectacularly so the political left would have the leverage they need to push the masses to 100% government run "single payer" healthcare. Having control of that much of the economy, particularly in a sector that has such inelastic demand results in complete and perpetual political power, which is exactly what the end game is. Throw in "free college education" and open borders over flowing with guaranteed votes and it's game over. This is the culmination of over a century of "progressive" politics. #draintheswamp is too late.
Socialists ALWAYS run out of other peoples money. (Maggie the Iron Bitch"
Standing offer for all of you "progressives" (code for commie) I'll help you pack as you leave for whatever "socialist paradise" you choose.
GTFOOMC!
https://youtu.be/DksSPZTZES0
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Hi.2001400ex said:
Agreed. No more purple J.pawz said:
Nov 8th can't get here soon enough.2001400ex said:
Great analysis as always. Do you really think adding 20 million people to private insurance companies is a path to single payer health care? With the huge insurance lobby that bought off Democrats?Southerndawg said:
Anyone paying attention knows that Obamacare was never intended to work. It was meant to fail spectacularly so the political left would have the leverage they need to push the masses to 100% government run "single payer" healthcare. Having control of that much of the economy, particularly in a sector that has such inelastic demand results in complete and perpetual political power, which is exactly what the end game is. Throw in "free college education" and open borders over flowing with guaranteed votes and it's game over. This is the culmination of over a century of "progressive" politics. #draintheswamp is too late.
#byfelicia
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You would be some queer Justin Timberlake stalker. Registering yearly with the police are we?2001400ex said:Sledog said:
Sure it's evil there is always a shortage of "payers" why can't you socialist buffoons ever see that it doesn't work!Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
Single payer isn't evil. I guess it is if you work for Blue Cross or something.Southerndawg said:
Anyone paying attention knows that Obamacare was never intended to work. It was meant to fail spectacularly so the political left would have the leverage they need to push the masses to 100% government run "single payer" healthcare. Having control of that much of the economy, particularly in a sector that has such inelastic demand results in complete and perpetual political power, which is exactly what the end game is. Throw in "free college education" and open borders over flowing with guaranteed votes and it's game over. This is the culmination of over a century of "progressive" politics. #draintheswamp is too late.
Socialists ALWAYS run out of other peoples money. (Maggie the Iron Bitch"
Standing offer for all of you "progressives" (code for commie) I'll help you pack as you leave for whatever "socialist paradise" you choose.
GTFOOMC!https://youtu.be/DksSPZTZES0 -
I like J in this one
#OctoberSurprise -
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Flewoveryourhead.gifSledog said:
You would be some queer Justin Timberlake stalker. Registering yearly with the police are we?2001400ex said:Sledog said:
Sure it's evil there is always a shortage of "payers" why can't you socialist buffoons ever see that it doesn't work!Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
Single payer isn't evil. I guess it is if you work for Blue Cross or something.Southerndawg said:
Anyone paying attention knows that Obamacare was never intended to work. It was meant to fail spectacularly so the political left would have the leverage they need to push the masses to 100% government run "single payer" healthcare. Having control of that much of the economy, particularly in a sector that has such inelastic demand results in complete and perpetual political power, which is exactly what the end game is. Throw in "free college education" and open borders over flowing with guaranteed votes and it's game over. This is the culmination of over a century of "progressive" politics. #draintheswamp is too late.
Socialists ALWAYS run out of other peoples money. (Maggie the Iron Bitch"
Standing offer for all of you "progressives" (code for commie) I'll help you pack as you leave for whatever "socialist paradise" you choose.
GTFOOMC!https://youtu.be/DksSPZTZES0 -
greenblood said:
The biggest problem is families making between 75k-100k year. There is little subsidy available, yet their premiums are skyrocketing. 75k-100k households don't have the disposable income to offset these hikes.2001400ex said:
There are many great things about the bill. No preexisting conditions, regulation so insurance companies can't drop you if you get cancer, exchanges for more transparent and "easier" medical shopping, subsidies so people can afford insurance.Swaye said:
I would prefer just repeal it, but that isn't going to happen so this thing clearly needs some serious fixes. No idea what those should be, but this seems to be a shit sandwich as it stands.2001400ex said:
To me it sounds like a good time for politicians to step up and make some changes to the bill to fix it then.Swaye said:
Someone at work was saying that in many states (not sure how many) so many insurers have pulled out that there are places with only one choice now. Take it or leave it. Again, work convo so no idea if true, but a fact check might be in order.2001400ex said:I only read the headline.
However, in Arizona, unsubsidized premiums for a hypothetical 27-year-old buying a benchmark “second-lowest cost silver plan” will jump by 116 percent, from $196 to $422, according to the administration report.
But it seems to me, average plans of employer provided health care are over $1,000 a month. Not to mention, that with the exchange, you can switch to a different provider if you don't like the cost.
The fine if you don't have insurance is the central issue that sucks. And many things need to be tweaked. Legislators need to come to the realization the bill is here and it's better to fix it than repeal it.
But they have new cars, smartphones, all the luxuries. Priorities bitches.greenblood said:
The biggest problem is families making between 75k-100k year. There is little subsidy available, yet their premiums are skyrocketing. 75k-100k households don't have the disposable income to offset these hikes.2001400ex said:
There are many great things about the bill. No preexisting conditions, regulation so insurance companies can't drop you if you get cancer, exchanges for more transparent and "easier" medical shopping, subsidies so people can afford insurance.Swaye said:
I would prefer just repeal it, but that isn't going to happen so this thing clearly needs some serious fixes. No idea what those should be, but this seems to be a shit sandwich as it stands.2001400ex said:
To me it sounds like a good time for politicians to step up and make some changes to the bill to fix it then.Swaye said:
Someone at work was saying that in many states (not sure how many) so many insurers have pulled out that there are places with only one choice now. Take it or leave it. Again, work convo so no idea if true, but a fact check might be in order.2001400ex said:I only read the headline.
However, in Arizona, unsubsidized premiums for a hypothetical 27-year-old buying a benchmark “second-lowest cost silver plan” will jump by 116 percent, from $196 to $422, according to the administration report.
But it seems to me, average plans of employer provided health care are over $1,000 a month. Not to mention, that with the exchange, you can switch to a different provider if you don't like the cost.
The fine if you don't have insurance is the central issue that sucks. And many things need to be tweaked. Legislators need to come to the realization the bill is here and it's better to fix it than repeal it. -
Hondo's priority is to have everyone pay for his health care premiums.BennyBeaver said:greenblood said:
The biggest problem is families making between 75k-100k year. There is little subsidy available, yet their premiums are skyrocketing. 75k-100k households don't have the disposable income to offset these hikes.2001400ex said:
There are many great things about the bill. No preexisting conditions, regulation so insurance companies can't drop you if you get cancer, exchanges for more transparent and "easier" medical shopping, subsidies so people can afford insurance.Swaye said:
I would prefer just repeal it, but that isn't going to happen so this thing clearly needs some serious fixes. No idea what those should be, but this seems to be a shit sandwich as it stands.2001400ex said:
To me it sounds like a good time for politicians to step up and make some changes to the bill to fix it then.Swaye said:
Someone at work was saying that in many states (not sure how many) so many insurers have pulled out that there are places with only one choice now. Take it or leave it. Again, work convo so no idea if true, but a fact check might be in order.2001400ex said:I only read the headline.
However, in Arizona, unsubsidized premiums for a hypothetical 27-year-old buying a benchmark “second-lowest cost silver plan” will jump by 116 percent, from $196 to $422, according to the administration report.
But it seems to me, average plans of employer provided health care are over $1,000 a month. Not to mention, that with the exchange, you can switch to a different provider if you don't like the cost.
The fine if you don't have insurance is the central issue that sucks. And many things need to be tweaked. Legislators need to come to the realization the bill is here and it's better to fix it than repeal it.
But they have new cars, smartphones, all the luxuries. Priorities bitches.greenblood said:
The biggest problem is families making between 75k-100k year. There is little subsidy available, yet their premiums are skyrocketing. 75k-100k households don't have the disposable income to offset these hikes.2001400ex said:
There are many great things about the bill. No preexisting conditions, regulation so insurance companies can't drop you if you get cancer, exchanges for more transparent and "easier" medical shopping, subsidies so people can afford insurance.Swaye said:
I would prefer just repeal it, but that isn't going to happen so this thing clearly needs some serious fixes. No idea what those should be, but this seems to be a shit sandwich as it stands.2001400ex said:
To me it sounds like a good time for politicians to step up and make some changes to the bill to fix it then.Swaye said:
Someone at work was saying that in many states (not sure how many) so many insurers have pulled out that there are places with only one choice now. Take it or leave it. Again, work convo so no idea if true, but a fact check might be in order.2001400ex said:I only read the headline.
However, in Arizona, unsubsidized premiums for a hypothetical 27-year-old buying a benchmark “second-lowest cost silver plan” will jump by 116 percent, from $196 to $422, according to the administration report.
But it seems to me, average plans of employer provided health care are over $1,000 a month. Not to mention, that with the exchange, you can switch to a different provider if you don't like the cost.
The fine if you don't have insurance is the central issue that sucks. And many things need to be tweaked. Legislators need to come to the realization the bill is here and it's better to fix it than repeal it. -
My firm pays most of my premiums. Dumbass.Sledog said:
Hondo's priority is to have everyone pay for his health care premiums.BennyBeaver said:greenblood said:
The biggest problem is families making between 75k-100k year. There is little subsidy available, yet their premiums are skyrocketing. 75k-100k households don't have the disposable income to offset these hikes.2001400ex said:
There are many great things about the bill. No preexisting conditions, regulation so insurance companies can't drop you if you get cancer, exchanges for more transparent and "easier" medical shopping, subsidies so people can afford insurance.Swaye said:
I would prefer just repeal it, but that isn't going to happen so this thing clearly needs some serious fixes. No idea what those should be, but this seems to be a shit sandwich as it stands.2001400ex said:
To me it sounds like a good time for politicians to step up and make some changes to the bill to fix it then.Swaye said:
Someone at work was saying that in many states (not sure how many) so many insurers have pulled out that there are places with only one choice now. Take it or leave it. Again, work convo so no idea if true, but a fact check might be in order.2001400ex said:I only read the headline.
However, in Arizona, unsubsidized premiums for a hypothetical 27-year-old buying a benchmark “second-lowest cost silver plan” will jump by 116 percent, from $196 to $422, according to the administration report.
But it seems to me, average plans of employer provided health care are over $1,000 a month. Not to mention, that with the exchange, you can switch to a different provider if you don't like the cost.
The fine if you don't have insurance is the central issue that sucks. And many things need to be tweaked. Legislators need to come to the realization the bill is here and it's better to fix it than repeal it.
But they have new cars, smartphones, all the luxuries. Priorities bitches.greenblood said:
The biggest problem is families making between 75k-100k year. There is little subsidy available, yet their premiums are skyrocketing. 75k-100k households don't have the disposable income to offset these hikes.2001400ex said:
There are many great things about the bill. No preexisting conditions, regulation so insurance companies can't drop you if you get cancer, exchanges for more transparent and "easier" medical shopping, subsidies so people can afford insurance.Swaye said:
I would prefer just repeal it, but that isn't going to happen so this thing clearly needs some serious fixes. No idea what those should be, but this seems to be a shit sandwich as it stands.2001400ex said:
To me it sounds like a good time for politicians to step up and make some changes to the bill to fix it then.Swaye said:
Someone at work was saying that in many states (not sure how many) so many insurers have pulled out that there are places with only one choice now. Take it or leave it. Again, work convo so no idea if true, but a fact check might be in order.2001400ex said:I only read the headline.
However, in Arizona, unsubsidized premiums for a hypothetical 27-year-old buying a benchmark “second-lowest cost silver plan” will jump by 116 percent, from $196 to $422, according to the administration report.
But it seems to me, average plans of employer provided health care are over $1,000 a month. Not to mention, that with the exchange, you can switch to a different provider if you don't like the cost.
The fine if you don't have insurance is the central issue that sucks. And many things need to be tweaked. Legislators need to come to the realization the bill is here and it's better to fix it than repeal it. -
Then quit trying to make the rest of us pay comrade!
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Dem talkng point.2001400ex said:
My firm pays most of my premiums. Dumbass.Sledog said:
Hondo's priority is to have everyone pay for his health care premiums.BennyBeaver said:greenblood said:
The biggest problem is families making between 75k-100k year. There is little subsidy available, yet their premiums are skyrocketing. 75k-100k households don't have the disposable income to offset these hikes.2001400ex said:
There are many great things about the bill. No preexisting conditions, regulation so insurance companies can't drop you if you get cancer, exchanges for more transparent and "easier" medical shopping, subsidies so people can afford insurance.Swaye said:
I would prefer just repeal it, but that isn't going to happen so this thing clearly needs some serious fixes. No idea what those should be, but this seems to be a shit sandwich as it stands.2001400ex said:
To me it sounds like a good time for politicians to step up and make some changes to the bill to fix it then.Swaye said:
Someone at work was saying that in many states (not sure how many) so many insurers have pulled out that there are places with only one choice now. Take it or leave it. Again, work convo so no idea if true, but a fact check might be in order.2001400ex said:I only read the headline.
However, in Arizona, unsubsidized premiums for a hypothetical 27-year-old buying a benchmark “second-lowest cost silver plan” will jump by 116 percent, from $196 to $422, according to the administration report.
But it seems to me, average plans of employer provided health care are over $1,000 a month. Not to mention, that with the exchange, you can switch to a different provider if you don't like the cost.
The fine if you don't have insurance is the central issue that sucks. And many things need to be tweaked. Legislators need to come to the realization the bill is here and it's better to fix it than repeal it.
But they have new cars, smartphones, all the luxuries. Priorities bitches.greenblood said:
The biggest problem is families making between 75k-100k year. There is little subsidy available, yet their premiums are skyrocketing. 75k-100k households don't have the disposable income to offset these hikes.2001400ex said:
There are many great things about the bill. No preexisting conditions, regulation so insurance companies can't drop you if you get cancer, exchanges for more transparent and "easier" medical shopping, subsidies so people can afford insurance.Swaye said:
I would prefer just repeal it, but that isn't going to happen so this thing clearly needs some serious fixes. No idea what those should be, but this seems to be a shit sandwich as it stands.2001400ex said:
To me it sounds like a good time for politicians to step up and make some changes to the bill to fix it then.Swaye said:
Someone at work was saying that in many states (not sure how many) so many insurers have pulled out that there are places with only one choice now. Take it or leave it. Again, work convo so no idea if true, but a fact check might be in order.2001400ex said:I only read the headline.
However, in Arizona, unsubsidized premiums for a hypothetical 27-year-old buying a benchmark “second-lowest cost silver plan” will jump by 116 percent, from $196 to $422, according to the administration report.
But it seems to me, average plans of employer provided health care are over $1,000 a month. Not to mention, that with the exchange, you can switch to a different provider if you don't like the cost.
The fine if you don't have insurance is the central issue that sucks. And many things need to be tweaked. Legislators need to come to the realization the bill is here and it's better to fix it than repeal it.
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Lot of racists in this thread.
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I EATIG
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Yeah sure.2001400ex said:
My firm pays most of my premiums. Dumbass.Sledog said:
Hondo's priority is to have everyone pay for his health care premiums.BennyBeaver said:greenblood said:
The biggest problem is families making between 75k-100k year. There is little subsidy available, yet their premiums are skyrocketing. 75k-100k households don't have the disposable income to offset these hikes.2001400ex said:
There are many great things about the bill. No preexisting conditions, regulation so insurance companies can't drop you if you get cancer, exchanges for more transparent and "easier" medical shopping, subsidies so people can afford insurance.Swaye said:
I would prefer just repeal it, but that isn't going to happen so this thing clearly needs some serious fixes. No idea what those should be, but this seems to be a shit sandwich as it stands.2001400ex said:
To me it sounds like a good time for politicians to step up and make some changes to the bill to fix it then.Swaye said:
Someone at work was saying that in many states (not sure how many) so many insurers have pulled out that there are places with only one choice now. Take it or leave it. Again, work convo so no idea if true, but a fact check might be in order.2001400ex said:I only read the headline.
However, in Arizona, unsubsidized premiums for a hypothetical 27-year-old buying a benchmark “second-lowest cost silver plan” will jump by 116 percent, from $196 to $422, according to the administration report.
But it seems to me, average plans of employer provided health care are over $1,000 a month. Not to mention, that with the exchange, you can switch to a different provider if you don't like the cost.
The fine if you don't have insurance is the central issue that sucks. And many things need to be tweaked. Legislators need to come to the realization the bill is here and it's better to fix it than repeal it.
But they have new cars, smartphones, all the luxuries. Priorities bitches.greenblood said:
The biggest problem is families making between 75k-100k year. There is little subsidy available, yet their premiums are skyrocketing. 75k-100k households don't have the disposable income to offset these hikes.2001400ex said:
There are many great things about the bill. No preexisting conditions, regulation so insurance companies can't drop you if you get cancer, exchanges for more transparent and "easier" medical shopping, subsidies so people can afford insurance.Swaye said:
I would prefer just repeal it, but that isn't going to happen so this thing clearly needs some serious fixes. No idea what those should be, but this seems to be a shit sandwich as it stands.2001400ex said:
To me it sounds like a good time for politicians to step up and make some changes to the bill to fix it then.Swaye said:
Someone at work was saying that in many states (not sure how many) so many insurers have pulled out that there are places with only one choice now. Take it or leave it. Again, work convo so no idea if true, but a fact check might be in order.2001400ex said:I only read the headline.
However, in Arizona, unsubsidized premiums for a hypothetical 27-year-old buying a benchmark “second-lowest cost silver plan” will jump by 116 percent, from $196 to $422, according to the administration report.
But it seems to me, average plans of employer provided health care are over $1,000 a month. Not to mention, that with the exchange, you can switch to a different provider if you don't like the cost.
The fine if you don't have insurance is the central issue that sucks. And many things need to be tweaked. Legislators need to come to the realization the bill is here and it's better to fix it than repeal it. -
Yes. Government totally controls our lives more now.Sledog said:
Yeah sure.2001400ex said:
My firm pays most of my premiums. Dumbass.Sledog said:
Hondo's priority is to have everyone pay for his health care premiums.BennyBeaver said:greenblood said:
The biggest problem is families making between 75k-100k year. There is little subsidy available, yet their premiums are skyrocketing. 75k-100k households don't have the disposable income to offset these hikes.2001400ex said:
There are many great things about the bill. No preexisting conditions, regulation so insurance companies can't drop you if you get cancer, exchanges for more transparent and "easier" medical shopping, subsidies so people can afford insurance.Swaye said:
I would prefer just repeal it, but that isn't going to happen so this thing clearly needs some serious fixes. No idea what those should be, but this seems to be a shit sandwich as it stands.2001400ex said:
To me it sounds like a good time for politicians to step up and make some changes to the bill to fix it then.Swaye said:
Someone at work was saying that in many states (not sure how many) so many insurers have pulled out that there are places with only one choice now. Take it or leave it. Again, work convo so no idea if true, but a fact check might be in order.2001400ex said:I only read the headline.
However, in Arizona, unsubsidized premiums for a hypothetical 27-year-old buying a benchmark “second-lowest cost silver plan” will jump by 116 percent, from $196 to $422, according to the administration report.
But it seems to me, average plans of employer provided health care are over $1,000 a month. Not to mention, that with the exchange, you can switch to a different provider if you don't like the cost.
The fine if you don't have insurance is the central issue that sucks. And many things need to be tweaked. Legislators need to come to the realization the bill is here and it's better to fix it than repeal it.
But they have new cars, smartphones, all the luxuries. Priorities bitches.greenblood said:
The biggest problem is families making between 75k-100k year. There is little subsidy available, yet their premiums are skyrocketing. 75k-100k households don't have the disposable income to offset these hikes.2001400ex said:
There are many great things about the bill. No preexisting conditions, regulation so insurance companies can't drop you if you get cancer, exchanges for more transparent and "easier" medical shopping, subsidies so people can afford insurance.Swaye said:
I would prefer just repeal it, but that isn't going to happen so this thing clearly needs some serious fixes. No idea what those should be, but this seems to be a shit sandwich as it stands.2001400ex said:
To me it sounds like a good time for politicians to step up and make some changes to the bill to fix it then.Swaye said:
Someone at work was saying that in many states (not sure how many) so many insurers have pulled out that there are places with only one choice now. Take it or leave it. Again, work convo so no idea if true, but a fact check might be in order.2001400ex said:I only read the headline.
However, in Arizona, unsubsidized premiums for a hypothetical 27-year-old buying a benchmark “second-lowest cost silver plan” will jump by 116 percent, from $196 to $422, according to the administration report.
But it seems to me, average plans of employer provided health care are over $1,000 a month. Not to mention, that with the exchange, you can switch to a different provider if you don't like the cost.
The fine if you don't have insurance is the central issue that sucks. And many things need to be tweaked. Legislators need to come to the realization the bill is here and it's better to fix it than repeal it.
You do realize that under single payer, I would pay more than I currently do. -
Everyone will pay more. A lot more.2001400ex said:
Yes. Government totally controls our lives more now.Sledog said:
Yeah sure.2001400ex said:
My firm pays most of my premiums. Dumbass.Sledog said:
Hondo's priority is to have everyone pay for his health care premiums.BennyBeaver said:greenblood said:
The biggest problem is families making between 75k-100k year. There is little subsidy available, yet their premiums are skyrocketing. 75k-100k households don't have the disposable income to offset these hikes.2001400ex said:
There are many great things about the bill. No preexisting conditions, regulation so insurance companies can't drop you if you get cancer, exchanges for more transparent and "easier" medical shopping, subsidies so people can afford insurance.Swaye said:
I would prefer just repeal it, but that isn't going to happen so this thing clearly needs some serious fixes. No idea what those should be, but this seems to be a shit sandwich as it stands.2001400ex said:
To me it sounds like a good time for politicians to step up and make some changes to the bill to fix it then.Swaye said:
Someone at work was saying that in many states (not sure how many) so many insurers have pulled out that there are places with only one choice now. Take it or leave it. Again, work convo so no idea if true, but a fact check might be in order.2001400ex said:I only read the headline.
However, in Arizona, unsubsidized premiums for a hypothetical 27-year-old buying a benchmark “second-lowest cost silver plan” will jump by 116 percent, from $196 to $422, according to the administration report.
But it seems to me, average plans of employer provided health care are over $1,000 a month. Not to mention, that with the exchange, you can switch to a different provider if you don't like the cost.
The fine if you don't have insurance is the central issue that sucks. And many things need to be tweaked. Legislators need to come to the realization the bill is here and it's better to fix it than repeal it.
But they have new cars, smartphones, all the luxuries. Priorities bitches.greenblood said:
The biggest problem is families making between 75k-100k year. There is little subsidy available, yet their premiums are skyrocketing. 75k-100k households don't have the disposable income to offset these hikes.2001400ex said:
There are many great things about the bill. No preexisting conditions, regulation so insurance companies can't drop you if you get cancer, exchanges for more transparent and "easier" medical shopping, subsidies so people can afford insurance.Swaye said:
I would prefer just repeal it, but that isn't going to happen so this thing clearly needs some serious fixes. No idea what those should be, but this seems to be a shit sandwich as it stands.2001400ex said:
To me it sounds like a good time for politicians to step up and make some changes to the bill to fix it then.Swaye said:
Someone at work was saying that in many states (not sure how many) so many insurers have pulled out that there are places with only one choice now. Take it or leave it. Again, work convo so no idea if true, but a fact check might be in order.2001400ex said:I only read the headline.
However, in Arizona, unsubsidized premiums for a hypothetical 27-year-old buying a benchmark “second-lowest cost silver plan” will jump by 116 percent, from $196 to $422, according to the administration report.
But it seems to me, average plans of employer provided health care are over $1,000 a month. Not to mention, that with the exchange, you can switch to a different provider if you don't like the cost.
The fine if you don't have insurance is the central issue that sucks. And many things need to be tweaked. Legislators need to come to the realization the bill is here and it's better to fix it than repeal it.
You do realize that under single payer, I would pay more than I currently do.
Just how much of my income do you think you have a right to Hondo? -
Shut the fuck up, everyone wouldn't pay a lot more.Sledog said:
Everyone will pay more. A lot more.2001400ex said:
Yes. Government totally controls our lives more now.Sledog said:
Yeah sure.2001400ex said:
My firm pays most of my premiums. Dumbass.Sledog said:
Hondo's priority is to have everyone pay for his health care premiums.BennyBeaver said:greenblood said:
The biggest problem is families making between 75k-100k year. There is little subsidy available, yet their premiums are skyrocketing. 75k-100k households don't have the disposable income to offset these hikes.2001400ex said:
There are many great things about the bill. No preexisting conditions, regulation so insurance companies can't drop you if you get cancer, exchanges for more transparent and "easier" medical shopping, subsidies so people can afford insurance.Swaye said:
I would prefer just repeal it, but that isn't going to happen so this thing clearly needs some serious fixes. No idea what those should be, but this seems to be a shit sandwich as it stands.2001400ex said:
To me it sounds like a good time for politicians to step up and make some changes to the bill to fix it then.Swaye said:
Someone at work was saying that in many states (not sure how many) so many insurers have pulled out that there are places with only one choice now. Take it or leave it. Again, work convo so no idea if true, but a fact check might be in order.2001400ex said:I only read the headline.
However, in Arizona, unsubsidized premiums for a hypothetical 27-year-old buying a benchmark “second-lowest cost silver plan” will jump by 116 percent, from $196 to $422, according to the administration report.
But it seems to me, average plans of employer provided health care are over $1,000 a month. Not to mention, that with the exchange, you can switch to a different provider if you don't like the cost.
The fine if you don't have insurance is the central issue that sucks. And many things need to be tweaked. Legislators need to come to the realization the bill is here and it's better to fix it than repeal it.
But they have new cars, smartphones, all the luxuries. Priorities bitches.greenblood said:
The biggest problem is families making between 75k-100k year. There is little subsidy available, yet their premiums are skyrocketing. 75k-100k households don't have the disposable income to offset these hikes.2001400ex said:
There are many great things about the bill. No preexisting conditions, regulation so insurance companies can't drop you if you get cancer, exchanges for more transparent and "easier" medical shopping, subsidies so people can afford insurance.Swaye said:
I would prefer just repeal it, but that isn't going to happen so this thing clearly needs some serious fixes. No idea what those should be, but this seems to be a shit sandwich as it stands.2001400ex said:
To me it sounds like a good time for politicians to step up and make some changes to the bill to fix it then.Swaye said:
Someone at work was saying that in many states (not sure how many) so many insurers have pulled out that there are places with only one choice now. Take it or leave it. Again, work convo so no idea if true, but a fact check might be in order.2001400ex said:I only read the headline.
However, in Arizona, unsubsidized premiums for a hypothetical 27-year-old buying a benchmark “second-lowest cost silver plan” will jump by 116 percent, from $196 to $422, according to the administration report.
But it seems to me, average plans of employer provided health care are over $1,000 a month. Not to mention, that with the exchange, you can switch to a different provider if you don't like the cost.
The fine if you don't have insurance is the central issue that sucks. And many things need to be tweaked. Legislators need to come to the realization the bill is here and it's better to fix it than repeal it.
You do realize that under single payer, I would pay more than I currently do.
Just how much of my income do you think you have a right to Hondo? -
Everyone's already paying a lot more adding more freeloaders only increases cost. Move to fucking England! They have great socialized dentistry too!2001400ex said:
Shut the fuck up, everyone wouldn't pay a lot more.Sledog said:
Everyone will pay more. A lot more.2001400ex said:
Yes. Government totally controls our lives more now.Sledog said:
Yeah sure.2001400ex said:
My firm pays most of my premiums. Dumbass.Sledog said:
Hondo's priority is to have everyone pay for his health care premiums.BennyBeaver said:greenblood said:
The biggest problem is families making between 75k-100k year. There is little subsidy available, yet their premiums are skyrocketing. 75k-100k households don't have the disposable income to offset these hikes.2001400ex said:
There are many great things about the bill. No preexisting conditions, regulation so insurance companies can't drop you if you get cancer, exchanges for more transparent and "easier" medical shopping, subsidies so people can afford insurance.Swaye said:
I would prefer just repeal it, but that isn't going to happen so this thing clearly needs some serious fixes. No idea what those should be, but this seems to be a shit sandwich as it stands.2001400ex said:
To me it sounds like a good time for politicians to step up and make some changes to the bill to fix it then.Swaye said:
Someone at work was saying that in many states (not sure how many) so many insurers have pulled out that there are places with only one choice now. Take it or leave it. Again, work convo so no idea if true, but a fact check might be in order.2001400ex said:I only read the headline.
However, in Arizona, unsubsidized premiums for a hypothetical 27-year-old buying a benchmark “second-lowest cost silver plan” will jump by 116 percent, from $196 to $422, according to the administration report.
But it seems to me, average plans of employer provided health care are over $1,000 a month. Not to mention, that with the exchange, you can switch to a different provider if you don't like the cost.
The fine if you don't have insurance is the central issue that sucks. And many things need to be tweaked. Legislators need to come to the realization the bill is here and it's better to fix it than repeal it.
But they have new cars, smartphones, all the luxuries. Priorities bitches.greenblood said:
The biggest problem is families making between 75k-100k year. There is little subsidy available, yet their premiums are skyrocketing. 75k-100k households don't have the disposable income to offset these hikes.2001400ex said:
There are many great things about the bill. No preexisting conditions, regulation so insurance companies can't drop you if you get cancer, exchanges for more transparent and "easier" medical shopping, subsidies so people can afford insurance.Swaye said:
I would prefer just repeal it, but that isn't going to happen so this thing clearly needs some serious fixes. No idea what those should be, but this seems to be a shit sandwich as it stands.2001400ex said:
To me it sounds like a good time for politicians to step up and make some changes to the bill to fix it then.Swaye said:
Someone at work was saying that in many states (not sure how many) so many insurers have pulled out that there are places with only one choice now. Take it or leave it. Again, work convo so no idea if true, but a fact check might be in order.2001400ex said:I only read the headline.
However, in Arizona, unsubsidized premiums for a hypothetical 27-year-old buying a benchmark “second-lowest cost silver plan” will jump by 116 percent, from $196 to $422, according to the administration report.
But it seems to me, average plans of employer provided health care are over $1,000 a month. Not to mention, that with the exchange, you can switch to a different provider if you don't like the cost.
The fine if you don't have insurance is the central issue that sucks. And many things need to be tweaked. Legislators need to come to the realization the bill is here and it's better to fix it than repeal it.
You do realize that under single payer, I would pay more than I currently do.
Just how much of my income do you think you have a right to Hondo? -
No they aren't paying more dumbfuck. Not compared to insurance premiums increasing 8-10% a year. Now overall they are less than that. Dumbfuck.Sledog said:
Everyone's already paying a lot more adding more freeloaders only increases cost. Move to fucking England! They have great socialized dentistry too!2001400ex said:
Shut the fuck up, everyone wouldn't pay a lot more.Sledog said:
Everyone will pay more. A lot more.2001400ex said:
Yes. Government totally controls our lives more now.Sledog said:
Yeah sure.2001400ex said:
My firm pays most of my premiums. Dumbass.Sledog said:
Hondo's priority is to have everyone pay for his health care premiums.BennyBeaver said:greenblood said:
The biggest problem is families making between 75k-100k year. There is little subsidy available, yet their premiums are skyrocketing. 75k-100k households don't have the disposable income to offset these hikes.2001400ex said:
There are many great things about the bill. No preexisting conditions, regulation so insurance companies can't drop you if you get cancer, exchanges for more transparent and "easier" medical shopping, subsidies so people can afford insurance.Swaye said:
I would prefer just repeal it, but that isn't going to happen so this thing clearly needs some serious fixes. No idea what those should be, but this seems to be a shit sandwich as it stands.2001400ex said:
To me it sounds like a good time for politicians to step up and make some changes to the bill to fix it then.Swaye said:
Someone at work was saying that in many states (not sure how many) so many insurers have pulled out that there are places with only one choice now. Take it or leave it. Again, work convo so no idea if true, but a fact check might be in order.2001400ex said:I only read the headline.
However, in Arizona, unsubsidized premiums for a hypothetical 27-year-old buying a benchmark “second-lowest cost silver plan” will jump by 116 percent, from $196 to $422, according to the administration report.
But it seems to me, average plans of employer provided health care are over $1,000 a month. Not to mention, that with the exchange, you can switch to a different provider if you don't like the cost.
The fine if you don't have insurance is the central issue that sucks. And many things need to be tweaked. Legislators need to come to the realization the bill is here and it's better to fix it than repeal it.
But they have new cars, smartphones, all the luxuries. Priorities bitches.greenblood said:
The biggest problem is families making between 75k-100k year. There is little subsidy available, yet their premiums are skyrocketing. 75k-100k households don't have the disposable income to offset these hikes.2001400ex said:
There are many great things about the bill. No preexisting conditions, regulation so insurance companies can't drop you if you get cancer, exchanges for more transparent and "easier" medical shopping, subsidies so people can afford insurance.Swaye said:
I would prefer just repeal it, but that isn't going to happen so this thing clearly needs some serious fixes. No idea what those should be, but this seems to be a shit sandwich as it stands.2001400ex said:
To me it sounds like a good time for politicians to step up and make some changes to the bill to fix it then.Swaye said:
Someone at work was saying that in many states (not sure how many) so many insurers have pulled out that there are places with only one choice now. Take it or leave it. Again, work convo so no idea if true, but a fact check might be in order.2001400ex said:I only read the headline.
However, in Arizona, unsubsidized premiums for a hypothetical 27-year-old buying a benchmark “second-lowest cost silver plan” will jump by 116 percent, from $196 to $422, according to the administration report.
But it seems to me, average plans of employer provided health care are over $1,000 a month. Not to mention, that with the exchange, you can switch to a different provider if you don't like the cost.
The fine if you don't have insurance is the central issue that sucks. And many things need to be tweaked. Legislators need to come to the realization the bill is here and it's better to fix it than repeal it.
You do realize that under single payer, I would pay more than I currently do.
Just how much of my income do you think you have a right to Hondo? -
Holy shit you're Daft! You can't pay for 50 million + people and have it be cheaper. Common core education?2001400ex said:
No they aren't paying more dumbfuck. Not compared to insurance premiums increasing 8-10% a year. Now overall they are less than that. Dumbfuck.Sledog said:
Everyone's already paying a lot more adding more freeloaders only increases cost. Move to fucking England! They have great socialized dentistry too!2001400ex said:
Shut the fuck up, everyone wouldn't pay a lot more.Sledog said:
Everyone will pay more. A lot more.2001400ex said:
Yes. Government totally controls our lives more now.Sledog said:
Yeah sure.2001400ex said:
My firm pays most of my premiums. Dumbass.Sledog said:
Hondo's priority is to have everyone pay for his health care premiums.BennyBeaver said:greenblood said:
The biggest problem is families making between 75k-100k year. There is little subsidy available, yet their premiums are skyrocketing. 75k-100k households don't have the disposable income to offset these hikes.2001400ex said:
There are many great things about the bill. No preexisting conditions, regulation so insurance companies can't drop you if you get cancer, exchanges for more transparent and "easier" medical shopping, subsidies so people can afford insurance.Swaye said:
I would prefer just repeal it, but that isn't going to happen so this thing clearly needs some serious fixes. No idea what those should be, but this seems to be a shit sandwich as it stands.2001400ex said:
To me it sounds like a good time for politicians to step up and make some changes to the bill to fix it then.Swaye said:
Someone at work was saying that in many states (not sure how many) so many insurers have pulled out that there are places with only one choice now. Take it or leave it. Again, work convo so no idea if true, but a fact check might be in order.2001400ex said:I only read the headline.
However, in Arizona, unsubsidized premiums for a hypothetical 27-year-old buying a benchmark “second-lowest cost silver plan” will jump by 116 percent, from $196 to $422, according to the administration report.
But it seems to me, average plans of employer provided health care are over $1,000 a month. Not to mention, that with the exchange, you can switch to a different provider if you don't like the cost.
The fine if you don't have insurance is the central issue that sucks. And many things need to be tweaked. Legislators need to come to the realization the bill is here and it's better to fix it than repeal it.
But they have new cars, smartphones, all the luxuries. Priorities bitches.greenblood said:
The biggest problem is families making between 75k-100k year. There is little subsidy available, yet their premiums are skyrocketing. 75k-100k households don't have the disposable income to offset these hikes.2001400ex said:
There are many great things about the bill. No preexisting conditions, regulation so insurance companies can't drop you if you get cancer, exchanges for more transparent and "easier" medical shopping, subsidies so people can afford insurance.Swaye said:
I would prefer just repeal it, but that isn't going to happen so this thing clearly needs some serious fixes. No idea what those should be, but this seems to be a shit sandwich as it stands.2001400ex said:
To me it sounds like a good time for politicians to step up and make some changes to the bill to fix it then.Swaye said:
Someone at work was saying that in many states (not sure how many) so many insurers have pulled out that there are places with only one choice now. Take it or leave it. Again, work convo so no idea if true, but a fact check might be in order.2001400ex said:I only read the headline.
However, in Arizona, unsubsidized premiums for a hypothetical 27-year-old buying a benchmark “second-lowest cost silver plan” will jump by 116 percent, from $196 to $422, according to the administration report.
But it seems to me, average plans of employer provided health care are over $1,000 a month. Not to mention, that with the exchange, you can switch to a different provider if you don't like the cost.
The fine if you don't have insurance is the central issue that sucks. And many things need to be tweaked. Legislators need to come to the realization the bill is here and it's better to fix it than repeal it.
You do realize that under single payer, I would pay more than I currently do.
Just how much of my income do you think you have a right to Hondo?
