Obamacare is a shitty product, but acting like the Republicans have taken the high road on healthcare is so fucking laughable that I'm not even going to go into it. Look back to the Bush-era prescription drug handout for a little taste.
Pass single payer and raise the tax ceiling for fucks sake and join the rest of the civilized world.
Is cute how nearly every part of your life is traxed yet you think more needs to be paid.
It is sad that you think money paid for health services is evil if it is paid via taxes instead of through insurance premiums, even if the total amount spent is lower by removing the insurance company profit.
It is sad that you think money paid for health services is evil if it is paid via taxes instead of through insurance premiums, even if the total amount spent is lower by removing the insurance company profit.
Imagine actually believing that the government can provide services more efficiently than the free market, because "pr0fit!!!111!!"...lol profit is the reason WHY it's more efficient.
The 20 countries that have all done it, disagree with your blind faith in the invisible hand when it comes to health care services.
It is sad that you think money paid for health services is evil if it is paid via taxes instead of through insurance premiums, even if the total amount spent is lower by removing the insurance company profit.
Imagine actually believing that the government can provide services more efficiently than the free market, because "pr0fit!!!111!!"...lol profit is the reason WHY it's more efficient.
Not always the case with insurers, who eat up close to 70% of every dollar on overhead before paying claims. While I'm a free-market capitalist 'til the end, insurance companies are the closest things to government bureaucracies the private sector has. And many laws mandate that we buy their product. So, not the best example of private vs government provided product or service.
It is sad that you think money paid for health services is evil if it is paid via taxes instead of through insurance premiums, even if the total amount spent is lower by removing the insurance company profit.
Imagine actually believing that the government can provide services more efficiently than the free market, because "pr0fit!!!111!!"...lol profit is the reason WHY it's more efficient.
The 20 countries that have all done it, disagree with your blind faith in the invisible hand when it comes to health care services.
Just because they've all done it doesn't mean it wouldn't be more efficient if they hadn't.
It is sad that you think money paid for health services is evil if it is paid via taxes instead of through insurance premiums, even if the total amount spent is lower by removing the insurance company profit.
Imagine actually believing that the government can provide services more efficiently than the free market, because "pr0fit!!!111!!"...lol profit is the reason WHY it's more efficient.
The 20 countries that have all done it, disagree with your blind faith in the invisible hand when it comes to health care services.
Just because they've all done it doesn't mean it wouldn't be more efficient if they hadn't.
They all rank above us in efficiency and coverage.
It is sad that you think money paid for health services is evil if it is paid via taxes instead of through insurance premiums, even if the total amount spent is lower by removing the insurance company profit.
Imagine actually believing that the government can provide services more efficiently than the free market, because "pr0fit!!!111!!"...lol profit is the reason WHY it's more efficient.
The 20 countries that have all done it, disagree with your blind faith in the invisible hand when it comes to health care services.
Just because they've all done it doesn't mean it wouldn't be more efficient if they hadn't.
They all rank above us in efficiency and coverage.
It is sad that you think money paid for health services is evil if it is paid via taxes instead of through insurance premiums, even if the total amount spent is lower by removing the insurance company profit.
Imagine actually believing that the government can provide services more efficiently than the free market, because "pr0fit!!!111!!"...lol profit is the reason WHY it's more efficient.
The 20 countries that have all done it, disagree with your blind faith in the invisible hand when it comes to health care services.
Just because they've all done it doesn't mean it wouldn't be more efficient if they hadn't.
They all rank above us in efficiency and coverage.
This was the plan from the get go. The administration knew they couldn't get a single payer system passed, so they came up with a system that would be sure to fail. Once it fails, single payer will be the only option. Pretty sick if you ask me.
Pretty much every other advanced country has single payer or some kind of similar "evil" socialized medicine
Pretty much every other advanced country is propped up by the US' willingness to spend out of our asses on defense to be able police the world and keep them free.
Just because it works somewhere else doesn't mean it works here without corresponding defense cuts that a) didn't happen and b) would eventually mean all those other countries can't afford single payer anymore either.
This was the plan from the get go. The administration knew they couldn't get a single payer system passed, so they came up with a system that would be sure to fail. Once it fails, single payer will be the only option. Pretty sick if you ask me.
Pretty much every other advanced country has single payer or some kind of similar "evil" socialized medicine
Pretty much every other advanced country is propped up by the US' willingness to spend out of our asses on defense to be able police the world and keep them free.
Just because it works someone else doesn't mean it works here without corresponding defense cuts that a) didn't happen and b) would eventually mean all those other countries can't afford single payer anymore either.
It is sad that you think money paid for health services is evil if it is paid via taxes instead of through insurance premiums, even if the total amount spent is lower by removing the insurance company profit.
Imagine actually believing that the government can provide services more efficiently than the free market, because "pr0fit!!!111!!"...lol profit is the reason WHY it's more efficient.
The 20 countries that have all done it, disagree with your blind faith in the invisible hand when it comes to health care services.
Just because they've all done it doesn't mean it wouldn't be more efficient if they hadn't.
They all rank above us in efficiency and coverage.
It is sad that you think money paid for health services is evil if it is paid via taxes instead of through insurance premiums, even if the total amount spent is lower by removing the insurance company profit.
Imagine actually believing that the government can provide services more efficiently than the free market, because "pr0fit!!!111!!"...lol profit is the reason WHY it's more efficient.
The 20 countries that have all done it, disagree with your blind faith in the invisible hand when it comes to health care services.
Just because they've all done it doesn't mean it wouldn't be more efficient if they hadn't.
They all rank above us in efficiency and coverage.
This was the plan from the get go. The administration knew they couldn't get a single payer system passed, so they came up with a system that would be sure to fail. Once it fails, single payer will be the only option. Pretty sick if you ask me.
Pretty much every other advanced country has single payer or some kind of similar "evil" socialized medicine
Pretty much every other advanced country is propped up by the US' willingness to spend out of our asses on defense to be able police the world and keep them free.
Just because it works somewhere else doesn't mean it works here without corresponding defense cuts that a) didn't happen and b) would eventually mean all those other countries can't afford single payer anymore either.
Holy fuck.
You thought this through.
What'd you do that for instead of spewing some Sledog/Hondo bullshit?
The only remaining question is why we police the world instead of offering a better health care system. I say fuck them, and bring on the free insulin - but I'm a type 1 diabetic, so you gotta take that with a pinch of salt.
This was the plan from the get go. The administration knew they couldn't get a single payer system passed, so they came up with a system that would be sure to fail. Once it fails, single payer will be the only option. Pretty sick if you ask me.
Pretty much every other advanced country has single payer or some kind of similar "evil" socialized medicine
Pretty much every other advanced country is propped up by the US' willingness to spend out of our asses on defense to be able police the world and keep them free.
Just because it works somewhere else doesn't mean it works here without corresponding defense cuts that a) didn't happen and b) would eventually mean all those other countries can't afford single payer anymore either.
Holy fuck.
You thought this through.
What'd you do that for instead of spewing some Sledog/Hondo bullshit?
The only remaining question is why we police the world instead of offering a better health care system. I say fuck them, and bring on the free insulin - but I'm a type 1 diabetic, so you gotta take that with a pinch of salt.
I have to admit this cuts to the core of the Libertarian - Republican war inside of me. One side of me says our defense spending is ridiculous and we need to get back to the founders vision of isolationism. The other half says fuck ISIS, let's wipe them out and go occupy the Middle East for the next hundred years.
I don't pretend to know what the right answer actually is.
It is sad that you think money paid for health services is evil if it is paid via taxes instead of through insurance premiums, even if the total amount spent is lower by removing the insurance company profit.
Imagine actually believing that the government can provide services more efficiently than the free market, because "pr0fit!!!111!!"...lol profit is the reason WHY it's more efficient.
The 20 countries that have all done it, disagree with your blind faith in the invisible hand when it comes to health care services.
Just because they've all done it doesn't mean it wouldn't be more efficient if they hadn't.
They all rank above us in efficiency and coverage.
Which proves nothing for 2 reasons:
1) The US has nothing close to a free market health care system. It's heavily influenced by government.
2) The overall efficiency of healthcare is determined by more factors than just government policy. If the efficiency and coverage really is better than the US in any of those countries, it would be even more efficient if their healthcare providers operated under the realm of a free market.
It is sad that you think money paid for health services is evil if it is paid via taxes instead of through insurance premiums, even if the total amount spent is lower by removing the insurance company profit.
Imagine actually believing that the government can provide services more efficiently than the free market, because "pr0fit!!!111!!"...lol profit is the reason WHY it's more efficient.
The 20 countries that have all done it, disagree with your blind faith in the invisible hand when it comes to health care services.
Yeah my friend from Canada paid cash in the US because the wait was so long for the surgery he needed. Great system.
This was the plan from the get go. The administration knew they couldn't get a single payer system passed, so they came up with a system that would be sure to fail. Once it fails, single payer will be the only option. Pretty sick if you ask me.
Pretty much every other advanced country has single payer or some kind of similar "evil" socialized medicine
Pretty much every other advanced country is propped up by the US' willingness to spend out of our asses on defense to be able police the world and keep them free.
Just because it works somewhere else doesn't mean it works here without corresponding defense cuts that a) didn't happen and b) would eventually mean all those other countries can't afford single payer anymore either.
Holy fuck.
You thought this through.
What'd you do that for instead of spewing some Sledog/Hondo bullshit?
The only remaining question is why we police the world instead of offering a better health care system. I say fuck them, and bring on the free insulin - but I'm a type 1 diabetic, so you gotta take that with a pinch of salt.
I have to admit this cuts to the core of the Libertarian - Republican war inside of me. One side of me says our defense spending is ridiculous and we need to get back to the founders vision of isolationism. The other half says fuck ISIS, let's wipe them out and go occupy the Middle East for the next hundred years.
I don't pretend to know what the right answer actually is.
I don't know our founders ventured forth and built the Navy to fight pirates on the Barbary coast. We need a strong military. Our spending on entitlements makes military spending look like pennies. We need to get rid of all this spying on our citizens. That's money we could use elsewhere.
It is sad that you think money paid for health services is evil if it is paid via taxes instead of through insurance premiums, even if the total amount spent is lower by removing the insurance company profit.
Imagine actually believing that the government can provide services more efficiently than the free market, because "pr0fit!!!111!!"...lol profit is the reason WHY it's more efficient.
The 20 countries that have all done it, disagree with your blind faith in the invisible hand when it comes to health care services.
Yeah my friend from Canada paid cash in the US because the wait was so long for the surgery he needed. Great system.
Extra cool story brah points if your Canadian friend is black, too.
This was the plan from the get go. The administration knew they couldn't get a single payer system passed, so they came up with a system that would be sure to fail. Once it fails, single payer will be the only option. Pretty sick if you ask me.
Pretty much every other advanced country has single payer or some kind of similar "evil" socialized medicine
Pretty much every other advanced country is propped up by the US' willingness to spend out of our asses on defense to be able police the world and keep them free.
Just because it works somewhere else doesn't mean it works here without corresponding defense cuts that a) didn't happen and b) would eventually mean all those other countries can't afford single payer anymore either.
It depends on what you mean by work, but if you mean funded, that couldn't be done even if every penny from defense spending were cut. National healthcare expenditures are roughly four times the current budget for defense.
This was the plan from the get go. The administration knew they couldn't get a single payer system passed, so they came up with a system that would be sure to fail. Once it fails, single payer will be the only option. Pretty sick if you ask me.
Pretty much every other advanced country has single payer or some kind of similar "evil" socialized medicine
Pretty much every other advanced country is propped up by the US' willingness to spend out of our asses on defense to be able police the world and keep them free.
Just because it works somewhere else doesn't mean it works here without corresponding defense cuts that a) didn't happen and b) would eventually mean all those other countries can't afford single payer anymore either.
Holy fuck.
You thought this through.
What'd you do that for instead of spewing some Sledog/Hondo bullshit?
The only remaining question is why we police the world instead of offering a better health care system. I say fuck them, and bring on the free insulin - but I'm a type 1 diabetic, so you gotta take that with a pinch of salt.
I have to admit this cuts to the core of the Libertarian - Republican war inside of me. One side of me says our defense spending is ridiculous and we need to get back to the founders vision of isolationism. The other half says fuck ISIS, let's wipe them out and go occupy the Middle East for the next hundred years.
I don't pretend to know what the right answer actually is.
I don't know our founders ventured forth and built the Navy to fight pirates on the Barbary coast. We need a strong military. Our spending on entitlements makes military spending look like pennies. We need to get rid of all this spying on our citizens. That's money we could use elsewhere.
Isolationism doesn't mean pacifism. It means we deal with our own shit (ex Barbary pirates) and let everybody else deal with their shit (ex not helping France in their war with Britain).
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Hmmmmm. I wonder what the problem might be?
Just because it works somewhere else doesn't mean it works here without corresponding defense cuts that a) didn't happen and b) would eventually mean all those other countries can't afford single payer anymore either.
You thought this through.
What'd you do that for instead of spewing some Sledog/Hondo bullshit?
The only remaining question is why we police the world instead of offering a better health care system. I say fuck them, and bring on the free insulin - but I'm a type 1 diabetic, so you gotta take that with a pinch of salt.
I don't pretend to know what the right answer actually is.
1) The US has nothing close to a free market health care system. It's heavily influenced by government.
2) The overall efficiency of healthcare is determined by more factors than just government policy. If the efficiency and coverage really is better than the US in any of those countries, it would be even more efficient if their healthcare providers operated under the realm of a free market.