Aetna Ditching 70% Obamacare Business
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Price controls do not equate to cost controls dumbfuck. Costs have spiraled out of control thanks to increased demand, and government regulation that simultaneously limits competition and supply. But how are you Hondo FS?2001400ex said:
Actually it does specify certain cost limits. But how are you stupid?pawz said:My favorite part of Obamacare, is how the bill ultimately just insures payment of medical liabilities and doesn't keep the costs imposed by the medical cartel in check.
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Komo4 buttfucker.greenblood said:
No...because they were promised repayment of shortages by the federal government. Then the federal government realized that paying off insurance companies with tax payers dollars wouldn't look good, so they turned face on that, and told the insurance companies to pound sand. Which is why we are where we are at.2001400ex said:
Did you hear one insurance company complain about Obamacare?greenblood said:
The brilliant idea of adding 30 million sick people that insurance companies couldn't charge proper premium for? Sounds like a great business deal if you ask me.2001400ex said:
Yes the Democrats had some brilliant plan to add 30 million people to insurance company rolls. Then after than, let's get rid of insurance companies.greenblood said:This was the plan from the get go. The administration knew they couldn't get a single payer system passed, so they came up with a system that would be sure to fail. Once it fails, single payer will be the only option. Pretty sick if you ask me.
How about both parties look at Obamacare and fix some shit with it. Rather than sit here and do nothing about bitch about it.
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Komo4 buttfucker.Sledog said:
So you looked it up? Nope.2001400ex said:
Do you realize you are lying? Or you just believe every random rumor you hear?Sledog said:Obama care was written and ready to go prior to Obingo being president. Written by the Apollo group. You can look them up, quite interesting.
It has to fail. We can not afford it. We are not entitled to health care at others expense. Get over it. -
Bush's fault IMO
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Wait, so now the exchanges with transparent health care plans are limiting competition?Southerndawg said:
Price controls do not equate to cost controls dumbfuck. Costs have spiraled out of control thanks to increased demand, and government regulation that simultaneously limits competition and supply. But how are you Hondo FS?2001400ex said:
Actually it does specify certain cost limits. But how are you stupid?pawz said:My favorite part of Obamacare, is how the bill ultimately just insures payment of medical liabilities and doesn't keep the costs imposed by the medical cartel in check.
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doogsinparadise said:
Obamacare is a shitty product
, but acting like the Republicans have taken the high road on healthcare is so fucking laughable that I'm not even going to go into it. Look back to the Bush-era prescription drug handout for a little taste..
Pass single payer and raise the tax ceiling for fucks sake and join the rest of the civilized world -
I like SMOD16's plan.
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2001400ex said:
Yes the Democrats had some brilliant plan to add 30 million people to insurance company rolls. Then after than, let's get rid of insurance companies.
How about both parties look at Obamacare and fix some shit with it. Rather than sit here and do nothing about bitch about it.
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I'm assuming the merger with Humana would provide the necessary financial backing needed for Aetna to stay in the exchanges. That doesn't seem like an odd request.UWhuskytskeet said:Aetna threatened to pull out of Obamacare if their merger with Humana was blocked. But how is our private healthcare system shittier than single payer?
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Pretty much every other advanced country has single payer or some kind of similar "evil" socialized medicinegreenblood said:This was the plan from the get go. The administration knew they couldn't get a single payer system passed, so they came up with a system that would be sure to fail. Once it fails, single payer will be the only option. Pretty sick if you ask me.
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And America had a system where if you had money or a good job you could get the best care in the world when you wanted it. With or without insurance.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
Pretty much every other advanced country has single payer or some kind of similar "evil" socialized medicinegreenblood said:This was the plan from the get go. The administration knew they couldn't get a single payer system passed, so they came up with a system that would be sure to fail. Once it fails, single payer will be the only option. Pretty sick if you ask me.
I get cash discounts but that motherfucker Obama takes it out of my pocket at the end of the year
Leave the death panels and waiting lists for our Veterans. Thank you for your service now die -
Dems said "if we add 35 million non-payers to the system health care will be cheaper". A 5 year old could see this wasn't true so therefore it was set up to fail on purpose. Commies wrote it and failure was the goal.
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Are you calling the heritage foundation, Newt Gingrich, and Mitt Romney communists now?Sledog said:Dems said "if we add 35 million non-payers to the system health care will be cheaper". A 5 year old could see this wasn't true so therefore it was set up to fail on purpose. Commies wrote it and failure was the goal.
http://www.heritage.org/research/lecture/assuring-affordable-health-care-for-all-americans
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Anyone writing that shit was but they weren't at Apollo.2001400ex said:
Are you calling the heritage foundation, Newt Gingrich, and Mitt Romney communists now?Sledog said:Dems said "if we add 35 million non-payers to the system health care will be cheaper". A 5 year old could see this wasn't true so therefore it was set up to fail on purpose. Commies wrote it and failure was the goal.
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Then go live there and fuck off.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
Pretty much every other advanced country has single payer or some kind of similar "evil" socialized medicinegreenblood said:This was the plan from the get go. The administration knew they couldn't get a single payer system passed, so they came up with a system that would be sure to fail. Once it fails, single payer will be the only option. Pretty sick if you ask me.
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ISAFNRCSledog said:
Anyone writing that shit was but they weren't at Apollo.2001400ex said:
Are you calling the heritage foundation, Newt Gingrich, and Mitt Romney communists now?Sledog said:Dems said "if we add 35 million non-payers to the system health care will be cheaper". A 5 year old could see this wasn't true so therefore it was set up to fail on purpose. Commies wrote it and failure was the goal.
http://www.heritage.org/research/lecture/assuring-affordable-health-care-for-all-americans
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I miss Love it or LEAVE it bumper stickersPurpleJ said:
Then go live there and fuck off.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
Pretty much every other advanced country has single payer or some kind of similar "evil" socialized medicinegreenblood said:This was the plan from the get go. The administration knew they couldn't get a single payer system passed, so they came up with a system that would be sure to fail. Once it fails, single payer will be the only option. Pretty sick if you ask me.
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I miss TUFF socialists that would take over continents to get their free healthcare.
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I remember all the libs were convinced that Obamacare was fantastic and going to be the best thing since sliced bread.
Of course now that it is awful and crashed pretty much exactly how everyone told them it would it's the same "b... b... But the Republicans!!1!" Response. Same shit different day. -
We have tough armed Americans that will shoot not so tuff socialists. That's the whole 2nd ammendment thing. And the reason the left wants to outlaw guns. It's in the way of commie progress. We ain't played cowboys and communists yet but I don't think the commies will like it.PurpleJ said:I miss TUFF socialists that would take over continents to get their free healthcare.
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It is sad that you think money paid for health services is evil if it is paid via taxes instead of through insurance premiums, even if the total amount spent is lower by removing the insurance company profit.pawz said:
Is cute how nearly every part of your life is traxed yet you think more needs to be paid.doogsinparadise said:Obamacare is a shitty product, but acting like the Republicans have taken the high road on healthcare is so fucking laughable that I'm not even going to go into it. Look back to the Bush-era prescription drug handout for a little taste.
Pass single payer and raise the tax ceiling for fucks sake and join the rest of the civilized world. -
They are mostly Huskies after all.ThomasFremont said:ITT: people who like paying more for less.
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OZONE said:
It is sad that you think money paid for health services is evil if it is paid via taxes instead of through insurance premiums, even if the total amount spent is lower by removing the insurance company profit.pawz said:
Is cute how nearly every part of your life is traxed yet you think more needs to be paid.doogsinparadise said:Obamacare is a shitty product, but acting like the Republicans have taken the high road on healthcare is so fucking laughable that I'm not even going to go into it. Look back to the Bush-era prescription drug handout for a little taste.
Pass single payer and raise the tax ceiling for fucks sake and join the rest of the civilized world.
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^ Yup.
"What if I don't pay into universal health services?"
"We fine you."
"What if I don't pay the fine?"
"We send the police to your house to arrest you."
"What if I don't wish to be arrested, and therefore resist?"
"The police will kill you."
"So if I don't pay into universal health services, I will be killed? Isn't that...unethical?"
"Nope. It's perfectly ethical to point a gun at a harmless, innocent person and force them to do things."
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Imagine actually believing that the government can provide services more efficiently than the free market, because "pr0fit!!!111!!"...lol profit is the reason WHY it's more efficient.OZONE said:It is sad that you think money paid for health services is evil if it is paid via taxes instead of through insurance premiums, even if the total amount spent is lower by removing the insurance company profit.
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Chincredibled purely for quality of rhetoric.RaceBannon said:
And America had a system where if you had money or a good job you could get the best care in the world when you wanted it. With or without insurance.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
Pretty much every other advanced country has single payer or some kind of similar "evil" socialized medicinegreenblood said:This was the plan from the get go. The administration knew they couldn't get a single payer system passed, so they came up with a system that would be sure to fail. Once it fails, single payer will be the only option. Pretty sick if you ask me.
I get cash discounts but that motherfucker Obama takes it out of my pocket at the end of the year
Leave the death panels and waiting lists for our Veterans. Thank you for your service now die -
The ends justify the means comrade!Fenderbender123 said:^ Yup.
"What if I don't pay into universal health services?"
"We fine you."
"What if I don't pay the fine?"
"We send the police to your house to arrest you."
"What if I don't wish to be arrested, and therefore resist?"
"The police will kill you."
"So if I don't pay into universal health services, I will be killed? Isn't that...unethical?"
"Nope. It's perfectly ethical to point a gun at a harmless, innocent person and force them to do things." -
Hey look how great the post office, DMV, VA and the IRS run!Fenderbender123 said:
Imagine actually believing that the government can provide services more efficiently than the free market, because "pr0fit!!!111!!"...lol profit is the reason WHY it's more efficient.OZONE said:It is sad that you think money paid for health services is evil if it is paid via taxes instead of through insurance premiums, even if the total amount spent is lower by removing the insurance company profit.
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Not always the case with insurers, who eat up close to 70% of every dollar on overhead before paying claims. While I'm a free-market capitalist 'til the end, insurance companies are the closest things to government bureaucracies the private sector has. And many laws mandate that we buy their product. So, not the best example of private vs government provided product or service.Fenderbender123 said:
Imagine actually believing that the government can provide services more efficiently than the free market, because "pr0fit!!!111!!"...lol profit is the reason WHY it's more efficient.OZONE said:It is sad that you think money paid for health services is evil if it is paid via taxes instead of through insurance premiums, even if the total amount spent is lower by removing the insurance company profit.
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That's what faggot liberals like to say. But what they completely ignore is the fact that the means are ends.Sledog said:
The ends justify the means comrade!Fenderbender123 said:^ Yup.
"What if I don't pay into universal health services?"
"We fine you."
"What if I don't pay the fine?"
"We send the police to your house to arrest you."
"What if I don't wish to be arrested, and therefore resist?"
"The police will kill you."
"So if I don't pay into universal health services, I will be killed? Isn't that...unethical?"
"Nope. It's perfectly ethical to point a gun at a harmless, innocent person and force them to do things."
