Yet another prominent (R) for Clinton, says Trump is a national embarrassment, list grows every day
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Trump can't run a successful casino. Ask @Swaye's people about that.TurdBuffer said:"According to Bloomberg, 8 out of 10 entrepreneurs who start businesses fail within the first 18 months. A whopping 80% crash and burn."
So, some Hillary eunuchs need to get some fucking perspective. Trump's been in the hospitality, development, recreation and casino businesses. It takes huge sums of money to get those off the ground and the risks are huge. Do you Hillary fuckbrains really think his investors don't know the risks? Christ. Bankruptcy is part of any businesses survival or closure plan from day one, if the entrepreneur has any brains at all. Form a corp or llc, and if it fails, dump it into bankruptcy. Business 101.
BTW, I'm in my 20th year and going strong, so fuck all you faggots who think you can lecture me about Trump or finance. Bankrupting a poor performing venture is much better than letting it bleed you dry to your last penny, costing you your house, all your shit, and causing you to re-start from zero. Nobody with a brain is that stupid, and that's why the founding fathers put bankruptcy in the constitution and many of them resorted to it themselves. All thus faux outrage is a joke. Trump's a blowhard and a jackass, yet, I find him less intolerable and offensive than most of the leftist commies and hypocrites I encounter daily.
And fuck off for being a pussy. -
If you weren't such a notorious idiot, Hondo, I might have to call you one.2001400ex said:
Trump can't run a successful casino. Ask @Swaye's people about that.TurdBuffer said:"According to Bloomberg, 8 out of 10 entrepreneurs who start businesses fail within the first 18 months. A whopping 80% crash and burn."
So, some Hillary eunuchs need to get some fucking perspective. Trump's been in the hospitality, development, recreation and casino businesses. It takes huge sums of money to get those off the ground and the risks are huge. Do you Hillary fuckbrains really think his investors don't know the risks? Christ. Bankruptcy is part of any businesses survival or closure plan from day one, if the entrepreneur has any brains at all. Form a corp or llc, and if it fails, dump it into bankruptcy. Business 101.
BTW, I'm in my 20th year and going strong, so fuck all you faggots who think you can lecture me about Trump or finance. Bankrupting a poor performing venture is much better than letting it bleed you dry to your last penny, costing you your house, all your shit, and causing you to re-start from zero. Nobody with a brain is that stupid, and that's why the founding fathers put bankruptcy in the constitution and many of them resorted to it themselves. All thus faux outrage is a joke. Trump's a blowhard and a jackass, yet, I find him less intolerable and offensive than most of the leftist commies and hypocrites I encounter daily.
And fuck off for being a pussy. -
Hurtful.TurdBuffer said:
If you weren't such a notorious idiot, Hondo, I might have to call you one.2001400ex said:
Trump can't run a successful casino. Ask @Swaye's people about that.TurdBuffer said:"According to Bloomberg, 8 out of 10 entrepreneurs who start businesses fail within the first 18 months. A whopping 80% crash and burn."
So, some Hillary eunuchs need to get some fucking perspective. Trump's been in the hospitality, development, recreation and casino businesses. It takes huge sums of money to get those off the ground and the risks are huge. Do you Hillary fuckbrains really think his investors don't know the risks? Christ. Bankruptcy is part of any businesses survival or closure plan from day one, if the entrepreneur has any brains at all. Form a corp or llc, and if it fails, dump it into bankruptcy. Business 101.
BTW, I'm in my 20th year and going strong, so fuck all you faggots who think you can lecture me about Trump or finance. Bankrupting a poor performing venture is much better than letting it bleed you dry to your last penny, costing you your house, all your shit, and causing you to re-start from zero. Nobody with a brain is that stupid, and that's why the founding fathers put bankruptcy in the constitution and many of them resorted to it themselves. All thus faux outrage is a joke. Trump's a blowhard and a jackass, yet, I find him less intolerable and offensive than most of the leftist commies and hypocrites I encounter daily.
And fuck off for being a pussy. -
Profile in Courageously Using Daddy's MoneyTurdBuffer said:"According to Bloomberg, 8 out of 10 entrepreneurs who start businesses fail within the first 18 months. A whopping 80% crash and burn."
So, some Hillary eunuchs need to get some fucking perspective. Trump's been in the hospitality, development, recreation and casino businesses. It takes huge sums of money to get those off the ground and the risks are huge. Do you Hillary fuckbrains really think his investors don't know the risks? Christ. Bankruptcy is part of any businesses survival or closure plan from day one, if the entrepreneur has any brains at all. Form a corp or llc, and if it fails, dump it into bankruptcy. Business 101.
BTW, I'm in my 20th year and going strong, so fuck all you faggots who think you can lecture me about Trump or finance. Bankrupting a poor performing venture is much better than letting it bleed you dry to your last penny, costing you your house, all your shit, and causing you to re-start from zero. Nobody with a brain is that stupid, and that's why the founding fathers put bankruptcy in the constitution and many of them resorted to it themselves. All thus faux outrage is a joke. Trump's a blowhard and a jackass, yet, I find him less intolerable and offensive than most of the leftist commies and hypocrites I encounter daily. -
Out of what 511? If only our federal government ran with such efficiency...OZONE said:
Nope. The reason people give for believing he could bankrupt the country is that he has already bankrupt 6 businesses, and welched on his debts to numerous working people that he owned money to before those business filed for bankruptcy protection for their debts.Fenderbender123 said:
"Oh, he told a lady with a crying baby to leave his rally, that means he's going to bankrupt our country and let the Russians invade!" -
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I'm just here to say that I'm not reading this thread because I'm sure it sucks.
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HR, YKallpurpleallgold said:I'm just here to say that I'm not reading this thread because I'm sure it sucks.
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Race's downvote tells me I have read the markets wrong. As a loyal minion I took another look:
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Yeah, I'm sure we want our federal government ran like a bankrupt casino that stiffed its employees.greenblood said:
Out of what 511? If only our federal government ran with such efficiency...OZONE said:
Nope. The reason people give for believing he could bankrupt the country is that he has already bankrupt 6 businesses, and welched on his debts to numerous working people that he owned money to before those business filed for bankruptcy protection for their debts.Fenderbender123 said:
"Oh, he told a lady with a crying baby to leave his rally, that means he's going to bankrupt our country and let the Russians invade!" -
"I don't want John Wooden to coach my basketball team, because did you see those games he lost?"OZONE said:
Yeah, I'm sure we want our federal government ran like a bankrupt casino that stiffed its employees.greenblood said:
Out of what 511? If only our federal government ran with such efficiency...OZONE said:
Nope. The reason people give for believing he could bankrupt the country is that he has already bankrupt 6 businesses, and welched on his debts to numerous working people that he owned money to before those business filed for bankruptcy protection for their debts.Fenderbender123 said:
"Oh, he told a lady with a crying baby to leave his rally, that means he's going to bankrupt our country and let the Russians invade!" -
Hi. His total return (since he got daddy's money in the 1980s) relative to the S&P and NYC benchmarks indicates he's a mediocre at best business man. That's from an analysis done by The Economist.Fenderbender123 said:
"I don't want John Wooden to coach my basketball team, because did you see those games he lost?"OZONE said:
Yeah, I'm sure we want our federal government ran like a bankrupt casino that stiffed its employees.greenblood said:
Out of what 511? If only our federal government ran with such efficiency...OZONE said:
Nope. The reason people give for believing he could bankrupt the country is that he has already bankrupt 6 businesses, and welched on his debts to numerous working people that he owned money to before those business filed for bankruptcy protection for their debts.Fenderbender123 said:
"Oh, he told a lady with a crying baby to leave his rally, that means he's going to bankrupt our country and let the Russians invade!"
Spin away...
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This. So hard.TurdBuffer said:So, some Hillary eunuchs need to get some fucking perspective. Trump's been in the hospitality, development, recreation and casino businesses. It takes huge sums of money to get those off the ground and the risks are huge. Do you Hillary fuckbrains really think his investors don't know the risks? Christ. Bankruptcy is part of any businesses survival or closure plan from day one, if the entrepreneur has any brains at all. Form a corp or llc, and if it fails, dump it into bankruptcy. Business 101.
It's Trump's job as a hardcore entrepreneur to take risks and then file for bankruptcy if they don't work out. If you say that Hillary was just doing her job when she saved a child rapist from being convicted on a technicality, then you have to say Trump was just doing his job by taking risks and filing for bankruptcy.
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No you want it run like a dictatorship willing to do anything to maintain power including screwing the populace out of the constitution. The supreme Court justices appointed during this term will determine our freedoms. Clinton has already stated she will appoint those willing to take those freedoms from us.OZONE said:
Yeah, I'm sure we want our federal government ran like a bankrupt casino that stiffed its employees.greenblood said:
Out of what 511? If only our federal government ran with such efficiency...OZONE said:
Nope. The reason people give for believing he could bankrupt the country is that he has already bankrupt 6 businesses, and welched on his debts to numerous working people that he owned money to before those business filed for bankruptcy protection for their debts.Fenderbender123 said:
"Oh, he told a lady with a crying baby to leave his rally, that means he's going to bankrupt our country and let the Russians invade!"
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Does it compare him to all other business men who invested in similar businesses/real estate, and not just the most successful? Does it include all the factors such as his personal goals, willingness to be risky based on his own financial goals, etc?BallSacked said:
Hi. His total return (since he got daddy's money in the 1980s) relative to the S&P and NYC benchmarks indicates he's a mediocre at best business man. That's from an analysis done by The Economist.Fenderbender123 said:
"I don't want John Wooden to coach my basketball team, because did you see those games he lost?"OZONE said:
Yeah, I'm sure we want our federal government ran like a bankrupt casino that stiffed its employees.greenblood said:
Out of what 511? If only our federal government ran with such efficiency...OZONE said:
Nope. The reason people give for believing he could bankrupt the country is that he has already bankrupt 6 businesses, and welched on his debts to numerous working people that he owned money to before those business filed for bankruptcy protection for their debts.Fenderbender123 said:
"Oh, he told a lady with a crying baby to leave his rally, that means he's going to bankrupt our country and let the Russians invade!"
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Look, I get why we're discussing this. There are people who think Trump should be president because they think he's like this incredibly successful business man who's turned dirt into gold. I get that it's not entirely true.
But there are things to consider. What happens to most people when they inherit or stumble across millions/billions of dollars? They blow it all in a few years and wind up individually bankrupt. Some of them kill themselves. The ability to maintain your wealth is certainly a quality that should not be overlooked. See Robert Swift.
Then, you have the fact that with all the businesses and real estate Trump's owned, he's had to deal with the government at all levels, negotiate with tons of people, make his customers happy, manage employees, etc. He's at least done that to a respectable degree.
Have other entrepreneurs had more success? Sure. But considering the riskiness and uncertainty the type of investments that we're seeing made, a lot of that success comes down to luck. There is rarely such a thing as a sure bet when it comes to investing, and even when there is only a few mathematical geniuses wind up figuring it out.
If you want to say he's a decent business man at best, fine. I'd disagree a bit, but even decent business men make damn fine politicians. -
Yes it does. He lags the Manhattan RE index. Economist also said he totally missed out on the Maccau explosion while better American casino/hotel developers (Adelson) jumped all over it.Fenderbender123 said:
Does it compare him to all other business men who invested in similar businesses/real estate, and not just the most successful? Does it include all the factors such as his personal goals, willingness to be risky based on his own financial goals, etc?BallSacked said:
Hi. His total return (since he got daddy's money in the 1980s) relative to the S&P and NYC benchmarks indicates he's a mediocre at best business man. That's from an analysis done by The Economist.Fenderbender123 said:
"I don't want John Wooden to coach my basketball team, because did you see those games he lost?"OZONE said:
Yeah, I'm sure we want our federal government ran like a bankrupt casino that stiffed its employees.greenblood said:
Out of what 511? If only our federal government ran with such efficiency...OZONE said:
Nope. The reason people give for believing he could bankrupt the country is that he has already bankrupt 6 businesses, and welched on his debts to numerous working people that he owned money to before those business filed for bankruptcy protection for their debts.Fenderbender123 said:
"Oh, he told a lady with a crying baby to leave his rally, that means he's going to bankrupt our country and let the Russians invade!"
Spin away...
Personal goals? Fuck off. You really think Donald would say he invests for anything other than "making money".
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I like to compare Trump to Robert Swift. That's what I like to do.
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Race, shall I send you my picture so you can put it on your body pillow?RaceBannon said:
I like Ozone. He's one of my favorite classy postersTierbsHsotBoobs said:In this thread: Race and OZONE finally fuck
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Someone call in the napalm on this thread
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OK! This is going from the ridiculous to the sublime. The US has been in over it's head for decades, spending more than it takes in, i.e., insolvent, except for one thing: It can always print more money. If a business owner could do that, even the worst of the worst would never go bankrupt. Apples vs Oranges, dummies.OZONE said:
Losing a game in basketball, or picking a stock that underperforms the S&P500, are vastly different than running a business so poorly that it declares bankruptcy.Fenderbender123 said:
Of course they are different. One is a stock, the other is a company. But that's not what we're looking at. The comparison is valid in terms of who is responsible, and whether or not we should be looking at just one piece or the entire picture.OZONE said:
Picking a losing stock as part of a diversified portfolio is very different than running your businesses so poorly that 6 of them went bankrupt.Fenderbender123 said:
This isn't a smart way to look at it. How many businesses has he owned? How many didn't go bankrupt? Were other people in the same industry going bankrupt too?OZONE said:
Nope. The reason people give for believing he could bankrupt the country is that he has already bankrupt 6 businesses, and welched on his debts to numerous working people that he owned money to before those business filed for bankruptcy protection for their debts.Fenderbender123 said:
"Oh, he told a lady with a crying baby to leave his rally, that means he's going to bankrupt our country and let the Russians invade!"
This is the equivalent at pulling up Hillary's stock portfolio, which is likely well-diversified, and then pointing to the few instances of failing stocks and saying "See? Hillary doesn't know what the fuck she's doing. She can't even invest in the stock market properly."
Seriously, that is the exact same argument.
Two prominent billionaires have already criticized him for it. I mention this last part only because some of you guys seem to be really impressed by billionaires.
In other words, if you're going to try and make the argument that Trump sucks at running businesses, you have to look at EVERYTHING. You don't point to the games that John Wooden's UCLA teams lost and say "see, Wooden sucks at coaching".
You can run a business poorly, but have a small profit and pay your obligations.
But running it so poorly that you declare bankruptcy, is like saying "fuck, I'm in way over my head here, I can't even afford to pay my debts. Gov't, please help me get of of my debts".
When Trump gets in way over his head with the US, who is going to bail him out?
Hate the Trump and love the Hillary. Be my guest. But many of you are ill-educated financial morons growing dumber with each successive post. Someday the U.S. currency will cease to be the world standard, but probably not in any of our lifetimes. It was supposed to be the Yen, then the Euro, now the Yuon. And it ain't like Hillary has a fucking clue, either. No democrat has known fuck-all about money since Daniel Patrick Moynihan died. Google him, shit-for-brains. You might learn something. -
"Reagan showed us that deficits don't matter."TurdBuffer said:
OK! This is going from the ridiculous to the sublime. The US has been in over it's head for decades, spending more than it takes in, i.e., insolvent, except for one thing: It can always print more money. If a business owner could do that, even the worst of the worst would never go bankrupt. Apples vs Oranges, dummies.OZONE said:
Losing a game in basketball, or picking a stock that underperforms the S&P500, are vastly different than running a business so poorly that it declares bankruptcy.Fenderbender123 said:
Of course they are different. One is a stock, the other is a company. But that's not what we're looking at. The comparison is valid in terms of who is responsible, and whether or not we should be looking at just one piece or the entire picture.OZONE said:
Picking a losing stock as part of a diversified portfolio is very different than running your businesses so poorly that 6 of them went bankrupt.Fenderbender123 said:
This isn't a smart way to look at it. How many businesses has he owned? How many didn't go bankrupt? Were other people in the same industry going bankrupt too?OZONE said:
Nope. The reason people give for believing he could bankrupt the country is that he has already bankrupt 6 businesses, and welched on his debts to numerous working people that he owned money to before those business filed for bankruptcy protection for their debts.Fenderbender123 said:
"Oh, he told a lady with a crying baby to leave his rally, that means he's going to bankrupt our country and let the Russians invade!"
This is the equivalent at pulling up Hillary's stock portfolio, which is likely well-diversified, and then pointing to the few instances of failing stocks and saying "See? Hillary doesn't know what the fuck she's doing. She can't even invest in the stock market properly."
Seriously, that is the exact same argument.
Two prominent billionaires have already criticized him for it. I mention this last part only because some of you guys seem to be really impressed by billionaires.
In other words, if you're going to try and make the argument that Trump sucks at running businesses, you have to look at EVERYTHING. You don't point to the games that John Wooden's UCLA teams lost and say "see, Wooden sucks at coaching".
You can run a business poorly, but have a small profit and pay your obligations.
But running it so poorly that you declare bankruptcy, is like saying "fuck, I'm in way over my head here, I can't even afford to pay my debts. Gov't, please help me get of of my debts".
When Trump gets in way over his head with the US, who is going to bail him out?
Hate the Trump and love the Hillary. Be my guest. But many of you are ill-educated financial morons growing dumber with each successive post. Someday the U.S. currency will cease to be the world standard, but probably not in any of our lifetimes. It was supposed to be the Yen, then the Euro, now the Yuon. And it ain't like Hillary has a fucking clue, either. No democrat has known fuck-all about money since Daniel Patrick Moynihan died. Google him, shit-for-brains. You might learn something.
--Dick Cheney
This thread is fascinating. First I learn that the US is bankrupt, and now I learn that in addition the US is insolvent. Way to teach up all the "financial morons" around here. Do you have a newsletter I can subscribe to?
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So, any retard is qualified for the presidency of they're not PC? Got it. Great policy.Fenderbender123 said:The reasons I like Trump are the same reasons why people hate him. People are such fucking pussies these days. And all the fucking media bias against him? God, you'd think Trump was a serial rapist and a serial killer.
All this politically correct behavior we see election after election? This over-the-top, "hey the camera's on me, better behave!", "act presidential" persona we've seen from every candidate election after election is getting old. All it tells me is that you're too big of a fucking pussy to be yourself when the camera's on you. That you just listen to your campaign advisors and practice being somebody you aren't, and get coached, etc...what's wrong? Afraid of some criticism? Well then you ain't no fucking leader, so go fuck off.
I mean, are we really going to sit here and lie to ourselves and other people and pretend that all these "presidential" acting presidents we've had in the past god only knows how many decades haven't passed shitty legislation or made shitty foreign policy moves? People need to remember why the fuck we elect politicians in the first place....because they have a job to do. But most Americans are completely retarded at trying to judge how good of a job they will do if elected.
"Oh, he told a lady with a crying baby to leave his rally, that means he's going to bankrupt our country and let the Russians invade!"
"Oh, this one guy says he said something racist this one time 30 years ago, therefore it not only must be true, but it also means that he definitely is a racist and didn't just say a racist thing, and that he's still a racist because nobody changes in 30 years, AND it also means that he's definitely going to pass a law that orders all black people to go live in a giant cage in the desert."
Jesus Christ. Jesus FUCKING Christ America. -
I am with DDY. For any office in the land.Dennis_DeYoung said:
So, any retard is qualified for the presidency of they're not PC? Got it. Great policy.Fenderbender123 said:The reasons I like Trump are the same reasons why people hate him. People are such fucking pussies these days. And all the fucking media bias against him? God, you'd think Trump was a serial rapist and a serial killer.
All this politically correct behavior we see election after election? This over-the-top, "hey the camera's on me, better behave!", "act presidential" persona we've seen from every candidate election after election is getting old. All it tells me is that you're too big of a fucking pussy to be yourself when the camera's on you. That you just listen to your campaign advisors and practice being somebody you aren't, and get coached, etc...what's wrong? Afraid of some criticism? Well then you ain't no fucking leader, so go fuck off.
I mean, are we really going to sit here and lie to ourselves and other people and pretend that all these "presidential" acting presidents we've had in the past god only knows how many decades haven't passed shitty legislation or made shitty foreign policy moves? People need to remember why the fuck we elect politicians in the first place....because they have a job to do. But most Americans are completely retarded at trying to judge how good of a job they will do if elected.
"Oh, he told a lady with a crying baby to leave his rally, that means he's going to bankrupt our country and let the Russians invade!"
"Oh, this one guy says he said something racist this one time 30 years ago, therefore it not only must be true, but it also means that he definitely is a racist and didn't just say a racist thing, and that he's still a racist because nobody changes in 30 years, AND it also means that he's definitely going to pass a law that orders all black people to go live in a giant cage in the desert."
Jesus Christ. Jesus FUCKING Christ America.
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From the looks of it, more than half of the Hillary-loving/Trump-fearing bed-wetters don't even know that congress authorizes and controls federal spending. Seriously gonna take issue with my point? Trump's bankruptcies have as much to do with his potential presidency as Hillary's being a shitty wife has to do with hers. If these social media driven criteria are the key issues for some people, their lives are already fucked. That's all.CirrhosisDawg said:
"Reagan showed us that deficits don't matter."TurdBuffer said:
OK! This is going from the ridiculous to the sublime. The US has been in over it's head for decades, spending more than it takes in, i.e., insolvent, except for one thing: It can always print more money. If a business owner could do that, even the worst of the worst would never go bankrupt. Apples vs Oranges, dummies.OZONE said:
Losing a game in basketball, or picking a stock that underperforms the S&P500, are vastly different than running a business so poorly that it declares bankruptcy.Fenderbender123 said:
Of course they are different. One is a stock, the other is a company. But that's not what we're looking at. The comparison is valid in terms of who is responsible, and whether or not we should be looking at just one piece or the entire picture.OZONE said:
Picking a losing stock as part of a diversified portfolio is very different than running your businesses so poorly that 6 of them went bankrupt.Fenderbender123 said:
This isn't a smart way to look at it. How many businesses has he owned? How many didn't go bankrupt? Were other people in the same industry going bankrupt too?OZONE said:
Nope. The reason people give for believing he could bankrupt the country is that he has already bankrupt 6 businesses, and welched on his debts to numerous working people that he owned money to before those business filed for bankruptcy protection for their debts.Fenderbender123 said:
"Oh, he told a lady with a crying baby to leave his rally, that means he's going to bankrupt our country and let the Russians invade!"
This is the equivalent at pulling up Hillary's stock portfolio, which is likely well-diversified, and then pointing to the few instances of failing stocks and saying "See? Hillary doesn't know what the fuck she's doing. She can't even invest in the stock market properly."
Seriously, that is the exact same argument.
Two prominent billionaires have already criticized him for it. I mention this last part only because some of you guys seem to be really impressed by billionaires.
In other words, if you're going to try and make the argument that Trump sucks at running businesses, you have to look at EVERYTHING. You don't point to the games that John Wooden's UCLA teams lost and say "see, Wooden sucks at coaching".
You can run a business poorly, but have a small profit and pay your obligations.
But running it so poorly that you declare bankruptcy, is like saying "fuck, I'm in way over my head here, I can't even afford to pay my debts. Gov't, please help me get of of my debts".
When Trump gets in way over his head with the US, who is going to bail him out?
Hate the Trump and love the Hillary. Be my guest. But many of you are ill-educated financial morons growing dumber with each successive post. Someday the U.S. currency will cease to be the world standard, but probably not in any of our lifetimes. It was supposed to be the Yen, then the Euro, now the Yuon. And it ain't like Hillary has a fucking clue, either. No democrat has known fuck-all about money since Daniel Patrick Moynihan died. Google him, shit-for-brains. You might learn something.
--Dick Cheney
This thread is fascinating. First I learn that the US is bankrupt, and now I learn that in addition the US is insolvent. Way to teach up all the "financial morons" around here. Do you have a newsletter I can subscribe to? -
So you're blaming the Republicans for the country's financial woes.TurdBuffer said:
From the looks of it, more than half of the Hillary-loving/Trump-fearing bed-wetters don't even know that congress authorizes and controls federal spending. Seriously gonna take issue with my point? Trump's bankruptcies have as much to do with his potential presidency as Hillary's being a shitty wife has to do with hers. If these social media driven criteria are the key issues for some people, their lives are already fucked. That's all.CirrhosisDawg said:
"Reagan showed us that deficits don't matter."TurdBuffer said:
OK! This is going from the ridiculous to the sublime. The US has been in over it's head for decades, spending more than it takes in, i.e., insolvent, except for one thing: It can always print more money. If a business owner could do that, even the worst of the worst would never go bankrupt. Apples vs Oranges, dummies.OZONE said:
Losing a game in basketball, or picking a stock that underperforms the S&P500, are vastly different than running a business so poorly that it declares bankruptcy.Fenderbender123 said:
Of course they are different. One is a stock, the other is a company. But that's not what we're looking at. The comparison is valid in terms of who is responsible, and whether or not we should be looking at just one piece or the entire picture.OZONE said:
Picking a losing stock as part of a diversified portfolio is very different than running your businesses so poorly that 6 of them went bankrupt.Fenderbender123 said:
This isn't a smart way to look at it. How many businesses has he owned? How many didn't go bankrupt? Were other people in the same industry going bankrupt too?OZONE said:
Nope. The reason people give for believing he could bankrupt the country is that he has already bankrupt 6 businesses, and welched on his debts to numerous working people that he owned money to before those business filed for bankruptcy protection for their debts.Fenderbender123 said:
"Oh, he told a lady with a crying baby to leave his rally, that means he's going to bankrupt our country and let the Russians invade!"
This is the equivalent at pulling up Hillary's stock portfolio, which is likely well-diversified, and then pointing to the few instances of failing stocks and saying "See? Hillary doesn't know what the fuck she's doing. She can't even invest in the stock market properly."
Seriously, that is the exact same argument.
Two prominent billionaires have already criticized him for it. I mention this last part only because some of you guys seem to be really impressed by billionaires.
In other words, if you're going to try and make the argument that Trump sucks at running businesses, you have to look at EVERYTHING. You don't point to the games that John Wooden's UCLA teams lost and say "see, Wooden sucks at coaching".
You can run a business poorly, but have a small profit and pay your obligations.
But running it so poorly that you declare bankruptcy, is like saying "fuck, I'm in way over my head here, I can't even afford to pay my debts. Gov't, please help me get of of my debts".
When Trump gets in way over his head with the US, who is going to bail him out?
Hate the Trump and love the Hillary. Be my guest. But many of you are ill-educated financial morons growing dumber with each successive post. Someday the U.S. currency will cease to be the world standard, but probably not in any of our lifetimes. It was supposed to be the Yen, then the Euro, now the Yuon. And it ain't like Hillary has a fucking clue, either. No democrat has known fuck-all about money since Daniel Patrick Moynihan died. Google him, shit-for-brains. You might learn something.
--Dick Cheney
This thread is fascinating. First I learn that the US is bankrupt, and now I learn that in addition the US is insolvent. Way to teach up all the "financial morons" around here. Do you have a newsletter I can subscribe to?
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Holy Fuck. This is a cry for help.TurdBuffer said:
From the looks of it, more than half of the Hillary-loving/Trump-fearing bed-wetters don't even know that congress authorizes and controls federal spending. Seriously gonna take issue with my point? Trump's bankruptcies have as much to do with his potential presidency as Hillary's being a shitty wife has to do with hers. If these social media driven criteria are the key issues for some people, their lives are already fucked. That's all.CirrhosisDawg said:
"Reagan showed us that deficits don't matter."TurdBuffer said:
OK! This is going from the ridiculous to the sublime. The US has been in over it's head for decades, spending more than it takes in, i.e., insolvent, except for one thing: It can always print more money. If a business owner could do that, even the worst of the worst would never go bankrupt. Apples vs Oranges, dummies.OZONE said:
Losing a game in basketball, or picking a stock that underperforms the S&P500, are vastly different than running a business so poorly that it declares bankruptcy.Fenderbender123 said:
Of course they are different. One is a stock, the other is a company. But that's not what we're looking at. The comparison is valid in terms of who is responsible, and whether or not we should be looking at just one piece or the entire picture.OZONE said:
Picking a losing stock as part of a diversified portfolio is very different than running your businesses so poorly that 6 of them went bankrupt.Fenderbender123 said:
This isn't a smart way to look at it. How many businesses has he owned? How many didn't go bankrupt? Were other people in the same industry going bankrupt too?OZONE said:
Nope. The reason people give for believing he could bankrupt the country is that he has already bankrupt 6 businesses, and welched on his debts to numerous working people that he owned money to before those business filed for bankruptcy protection for their debts.Fenderbender123 said:
"Oh, he told a lady with a crying baby to leave his rally, that means he's going to bankrupt our country and let the Russians invade!"
This is the equivalent at pulling up Hillary's stock portfolio, which is likely well-diversified, and then pointing to the few instances of failing stocks and saying "See? Hillary doesn't know what the fuck she's doing. She can't even invest in the stock market properly."
Seriously, that is the exact same argument.
Two prominent billionaires have already criticized him for it. I mention this last part only because some of you guys seem to be really impressed by billionaires.
In other words, if you're going to try and make the argument that Trump sucks at running businesses, you have to look at EVERYTHING. You don't point to the games that John Wooden's UCLA teams lost and say "see, Wooden sucks at coaching".
You can run a business poorly, but have a small profit and pay your obligations.
But running it so poorly that you declare bankruptcy, is like saying "fuck, I'm in way over my head here, I can't even afford to pay my debts. Gov't, please help me get of of my debts".
When Trump gets in way over his head with the US, who is going to bail him out?
Hate the Trump and love the Hillary. Be my guest. But many of you are ill-educated financial morons growing dumber with each successive post. Someday the U.S. currency will cease to be the world standard, but probably not in any of our lifetimes. It was supposed to be the Yen, then the Euro, now the Yuon. And it ain't like Hillary has a fucking clue, either. No democrat has known fuck-all about money since Daniel Patrick Moynihan died. Google him, shit-for-brains. You might learn something.
--Dick Cheney
This thread is fascinating. First I learn that the US is bankrupt, and now I learn that in addition the US is insolvent. Way to teach up all the "financial morons" around here. Do you have a newsletter I can subscribe to?
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You mean over 100% and headed higher with interest rates sure to increaase on it. Sure.... were not Greece but were not healthy eitherCirrhosisDawg said:
The US is bankrupt?1!!? Holy Shit, why didn't somebody say something?salemcoog said:
Hi there! The Country is already bankrupt. Soon interest on debt will be our 3rd biggest "program".OZONE said:
Nope. The reason people give for believing he could bankrupt the country is that he has already bankrupt 6 businesses, and welched on his debts to numerous working people that he owned money to before those business filed for bankruptcy protection for their debts.Fenderbender123 said:
"Oh, he told a lady with a crying baby to leave his rally, that means he's going to bankrupt our country and let the Russians invade!"
That would be my last worry of a Trump Presidency.
I didn't realize something like that could happen to a country with debt-to-GDP of 75% and possessing the world's reserve currency.
Looks like @Swaye was right and it's time to bury a can filled with arrowheads, beads and doghides in the backyard. -
I disagree with you. So do two Billionaires with more impressive resume's than Trump's.TurdBuffer said:
From the looks of it, more than half of the Hillary-loving/Trump-fearing bed-wetters don't even know that congress authorizes and controls federal spending. Seriously gonna take issue with my point? Trump's bankruptcies have as much to do with his potential presidency as Hillary's being a shitty wife has to do with hers. If these social media driven criteria are the key issues for some people, their lives are already fucked. That's all.CirrhosisDawg said:
"Reagan showed us that deficits don't matter."TurdBuffer said:
OK! This is going from the ridiculous to the sublime. The US has been in over it's head for decades, spending more than it takes in, i.e., insolvent, except for one thing: It can always print more money. If a business owner could do that, even the worst of the worst would never go bankrupt. Apples vs Oranges, dummies.OZONE said:
Losing a game in basketball, or picking a stock that underperforms the S&P500, are vastly different than running a business so poorly that it declares bankruptcy.Fenderbender123 said:
Of course they are different. One is a stock, the other is a company. But that's not what we're looking at. The comparison is valid in terms of who is responsible, and whether or not we should be looking at just one piece or the entire picture.OZONE said:
Picking a losing stock as part of a diversified portfolio is very different than running your businesses so poorly that 6 of them went bankrupt.Fenderbender123 said:
This isn't a smart way to look at it. How many businesses has he owned? How many didn't go bankrupt? Were other people in the same industry going bankrupt too?OZONE said:
Nope. The reason people give for believing he could bankrupt the country is that he has already bankrupt 6 businesses, and welched on his debts to numerous working people that he owned money to before those business filed for bankruptcy protection for their debts.Fenderbender123 said:
"Oh, he told a lady with a crying baby to leave his rally, that means he's going to bankrupt our country and let the Russians invade!"
This is the equivalent at pulling up Hillary's stock portfolio, which is likely well-diversified, and then pointing to the few instances of failing stocks and saying "See? Hillary doesn't know what the fuck she's doing. She can't even invest in the stock market properly."
Seriously, that is the exact same argument.
Two prominent billionaires have already criticized him for it. I mention this last part only because some of you guys seem to be really impressed by billionaires.
In other words, if you're going to try and make the argument that Trump sucks at running businesses, you have to look at EVERYTHING. You don't point to the games that John Wooden's UCLA teams lost and say "see, Wooden sucks at coaching".
You can run a business poorly, but have a small profit and pay your obligations.
But running it so poorly that you declare bankruptcy, is like saying "fuck, I'm in way over my head here, I can't even afford to pay my debts. Gov't, please help me get of of my debts".
When Trump gets in way over his head with the US, who is going to bail him out?
Hate the Trump and love the Hillary. Be my guest. But many of you are ill-educated financial morons growing dumber with each successive post. Someday the U.S. currency will cease to be the world standard, but probably not in any of our lifetimes. It was supposed to be the Yen, then the Euro, now the Yuon. And it ain't like Hillary has a fucking clue, either. No democrat has known fuck-all about money since Daniel Patrick Moynihan died. Google him, shit-for-brains. You might learn something.
--Dick Cheney
This thread is fascinating. First I learn that the US is bankrupt, and now I learn that in addition the US is insolvent. Way to teach up all the "financial morons" around here. Do you have a newsletter I can subscribe to?
I'd say you are on the losing side. -
Stalin and Mao are dead.OZONE said:
I disagree with you. So do two Billionaires with more impressive resume's than Trump's.TurdBuffer said:
From the looks of it, more than half of the Hillary-loving/Trump-fearing bed-wetters don't even know that congress authorizes and controls federal spending. Seriously gonna take issue with my point? Trump's bankruptcies have as much to do with his potential presidency as Hillary's being a shitty wife has to do with hers. If these social media driven criteria are the key issues for some people, their lives are already fucked. That's all.CirrhosisDawg said:
"Reagan showed us that deficits don't matter."TurdBuffer said:
OK! This is going from the ridiculous to the sublime. The US has been in over it's head for decades, spending more than it takes in, i.e., insolvent, except for one thing: It can always print more money. If a business owner could do that, even the worst of the worst would never go bankrupt. Apples vs Oranges, dummies.OZONE said:
Losing a game in basketball, or picking a stock that underperforms the S&P500, are vastly different than running a business so poorly that it declares bankruptcy.Fenderbender123 said:
Of course they are different. One is a stock, the other is a company. But that's not what we're looking at. The comparison is valid in terms of who is responsible, and whether or not we should be looking at just one piece or the entire picture.OZONE said:
Picking a losing stock as part of a diversified portfolio is very different than running your businesses so poorly that 6 of them went bankrupt.Fenderbender123 said:
This isn't a smart way to look at it. How many businesses has he owned? How many didn't go bankrupt? Were other people in the same industry going bankrupt too?OZONE said:
Nope. The reason people give for believing he could bankrupt the country is that he has already bankrupt 6 businesses, and welched on his debts to numerous working people that he owned money to before those business filed for bankruptcy protection for their debts.Fenderbender123 said:
"Oh, he told a lady with a crying baby to leave his rally, that means he's going to bankrupt our country and let the Russians invade!"
This is the equivalent at pulling up Hillary's stock portfolio, which is likely well-diversified, and then pointing to the few instances of failing stocks and saying "See? Hillary doesn't know what the fuck she's doing. She can't even invest in the stock market properly."
Seriously, that is the exact same argument.
Two prominent billionaires have already criticized him for it. I mention this last part only because some of you guys seem to be really impressed by billionaires.
In other words, if you're going to try and make the argument that Trump sucks at running businesses, you have to look at EVERYTHING. You don't point to the games that John Wooden's UCLA teams lost and say "see, Wooden sucks at coaching".
You can run a business poorly, but have a small profit and pay your obligations.
But running it so poorly that you declare bankruptcy, is like saying "fuck, I'm in way over my head here, I can't even afford to pay my debts. Gov't, please help me get of of my debts".
When Trump gets in way over his head with the US, who is going to bail him out?
Hate the Trump and love the Hillary. Be my guest. But many of you are ill-educated financial morons growing dumber with each successive post. Someday the U.S. currency will cease to be the world standard, but probably not in any of our lifetimes. It was supposed to be the Yen, then the Euro, now the Yuon. And it ain't like Hillary has a fucking clue, either. No democrat has known fuck-all about money since Daniel Patrick Moynihan died. Google him, shit-for-brains. You might learn something.
--Dick Cheney
This thread is fascinating. First I learn that the US is bankrupt, and now I learn that in addition the US is insolvent. Way to teach up all the "financial morons" around here. Do you have a newsletter I can subscribe to?
I'd say you are on the losing side.
