"Oh, he told a lady with a crying baby to leave his rally, that means he's going to bankrupt our country and let the Russians invade!"
Nope. The reason people give for believing he could bankrupt the country is that he has already bankrupt 6 businesses, and welched on his debts to numerous working people that he owned money to before those business filed for bankruptcy protection for their debts.
This isn't a smart way to look at it. How many businesses has he owned? How many didn't go bankrupt? Were other people in the same industry going bankrupt too?
This is the equivalent at pulling up Hillary's stock portfolio, which is likely well-diversified, and then pointing to the few instances of failing stocks and saying "See? Hillary doesn't know what the fuck she's doing. She can't even invest in the stock market properly."
Seriously, that is the exact same argument.
Picking a losing stock as part of a diversified portfolio is very different than running your businesses so poorly that 6 of them went bankrupt.
Two prominent billionaires have already criticized him for it. I mention this last part only because some of you guys seem to be really impressed by billionaires.
Of course they are different. One is a stock, the other is a company. But that's not what we're looking at. The comparison is valid in terms of who is responsible, and whether or not we should be looking at just one piece or the entire picture.
In other words, if you're going to try and make the argument that Trump sucks at running businesses, you have to look at EVERYTHING. You don't point to the games that John Wooden's UCLA teams lost and say "see, Wooden sucks at coaching".
"Oh, he told a lady with a crying baby to leave his rally, that means he's going to bankrupt our country and let the Russians invade!"
Nope. The reason people give for believing he could bankrupt the country is that he has already bankrupt 6 businesses, and welched on his debts to numerous working people that he owned money to before those business filed for bankruptcy protection for their debts.
This isn't a smart way to look at it. How many businesses has he owned? How many didn't go bankrupt? Were other people in the same industry going bankrupt too?
This is the equivalent at pulling up Hillary's stock portfolio, which is likely well-diversified, and then pointing to the few instances of failing stocks and saying "See? Hillary doesn't know what the fuck she's doing. She can't even invest in the stock market properly."
Seriously, that is the exact same argument.
Picking a losing stock as part of a diversified portfolio is very different than running your businesses so poorly that 6 of them went bankrupt.
Two prominent billionaires have already criticized him for it. I mention this last part only because some of you guys seem to be really impressed by billionaires.
Of course they are different. One is a stock, the other is a company. But that's not what we're looking at. The comparison is valid in terms of who is responsible, and whether or not we should be looking at just one piece or the entire picture.
In other words, if you're going to try and make the argument that Trump sucks at running businesses, you have to look at EVERYTHING. You don't point to the games that John Wooden's UCLA teams lost and say "see, Wooden sucks at coaching".
"Oh, he told a lady with a crying baby to leave his rally, that means he's going to bankrupt our country and let the Russians invade!"
Nope. The reason people give for believing he could bankrupt the country is that he has already bankrupt 6 businesses, and welched on his debts to numerous working people that he owned money to before those business filed for bankruptcy protection for their debts.
This isn't a smart way to look at it. How many businesses has he owned? How many didn't go bankrupt? Were other people in the same industry going bankrupt too?
This is the equivalent at pulling up Hillary's stock portfolio, which is likely well-diversified, and then pointing to the few instances of failing stocks and saying "See? Hillary doesn't know what the fuck she's doing. She can't even invest in the stock market properly."
Seriously, that is the exact same argument.
Picking a losing stock as part of a diversified portfolio is very different than running your businesses so poorly that 6 of them went bankrupt.
Two prominent billionaires have already criticized him for it. I mention this last part only because some of you guys seem to be really impressed by billionaires.
Of course they are different. One is a stock, the other is a company. But that's not what we're looking at. The comparison is valid in terms of who is responsible, and whether or not we should be looking at just one piece or the entire picture.
In other words, if you're going to try and make the argument that Trump sucks at running businesses, you have to look at EVERYTHING. You don't point to the games that John Wooden's UCLA teams lost and say "see, Wooden sucks at coaching".
Losing a game in basketball, or picking a stock that underperforms the S&P500, are vastly different than running a business so poorly that it declares bankruptcy.
You can run a business poorly, but have a small profit and pay your obligations.
But running it so poorly that you declare bankruptcy, is like saying "fuck, I'm in way over my head here, I can't even afford to pay my debts. Gov't, please help me get of of my debts".
When Trump gets in way over his head with the US, who is going to bail him out?
Think of the federal budget as Trump's personal budget. There are many sources of revenue, and many sources of expenditures.
Perhaps there will be one area where too much money is being spent, but as long as overall revenues and expenses are looking good, things are golden....just like Trump's individual situation. He individually has NOT declared bankruptcy, because he's managed the bigger picture well enough to not need to.
Think of the federal budget as Trump's personal budget. There are many sources of revenue, and many sources of expenditures.
Perhaps there will be one area where too much money is being spent, but as long as overall revenues and expenses are looking good, things are golden....just like Trump's individual situation. He individually has NOT declared bankruptcy, because he's managed the bigger picture well enough to not need to.
Whatever, we will not agree on his competence.
But at least you have stopped conflating his ability to run the country without it going bankrupt, with him kicking a crying baby out of the conference, which is where this entire thread started.
So, you are getting slightly better in your analytical ability. Enough to impress Race anyway, which might not be saying much.
Think of the federal budget as Trump's personal budget. There are many sources of revenue, and many sources of expenditures.
Perhaps there will be one area where too much money is being spent, but as long as overall revenues and expenses are looking good, things are golden....just like Trump's individual situation. He individually has NOT declared bankruptcy, because he's managed the bigger picture well enough to not need to.
"Oh, he told a lady with a crying baby to leave his rally, that means he's going to bankrupt our country and let the Russians invade!"
Nope. The reason people give for believing he could bankrupt the country is that he has already bankrupt 6 businesses, and welched on his debts to numerous working people that he owned money to before those business filed for bankruptcy protection for their debts.
Hi there! The Country is already bankrupt. Soon interest on debt will be our 3rd biggest "program".
That would be my last worry of a Trump Presidency.
The US is bankrupt?1!!? Holy Shit, why didn't somebody say something?
I didn't realize something like that could happen to a country with debt-to-GDP of 75% and possessing the world's reserve currency.
Looks like @Swaye was right and it's time to bury a can filled with arrowheads, beads and doghides in the backyard.
"Oh, he told a lady with a crying baby to leave his rally, that means he's going to bankrupt our country and let the Russians invade!"
Nope. The reason people give for believing he could bankrupt the country is that he has already bankrupt 6 businesses, and welched on his debts to numerous working people that he owned money to before those business filed for bankruptcy protection for their debts.
Hi there! The Country is already bankrupt. Soon interest on debt will be our 3rd biggest "program".
That would be my last worry of a Trump Presidency.
The US is bankrupt?1!!? Holy Shit, why didn't somebody say something?
I didn't realize something like that could happen to a country with debt-to-GDP of 75% and possessing the world's reserve currency.
Looks like @Swaye was right and it's time to bury a can filled with arrowheads, beads and doghides in the backyard.
I also put some beef jerky in there, but this is most of the way there.
"According to Bloomberg, 8 out of 10 entrepreneurs who start businesses fail within the first 18 months. A whopping 80% crash and burn."
So, some Hillary eunuchs need to get some fucking perspective. Trump's been in the hospitality, development, recreation and casino businesses. It takes huge sums of money to get those off the ground and the risks are huge. Do you Hillary fuckbrains really think his investors don't know the risks? Christ. Bankruptcy is part of any businesses survival or closure plan from day one, if the entrepreneur has any brains at all. Form a corp or llc, and if it fails, dump it into bankruptcy. Business 101.
BTW, I'm in my 20th year and going strong, so fuck all you faggots who think you can lecture me about Trump or finance. Bankrupting a poor performing venture is much better than letting it bleed you dry to your last penny, costing you your house, all your shit, and causing you to re-start from zero. Nobody with a brain is that stupid, and that's why the founding fathers put bankruptcy in the constitution and many of them resorted to it themselves. All thus faux outrage is a joke. Trump's a blowhard and a jackass, yet, I find him less intolerable and offensive than most of the leftist commies and hypocrites I encounter daily.
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In other words, if you're going to try and make the argument that Trump sucks at running businesses, you have to look at EVERYTHING. You don't point to the games that John Wooden's UCLA teams lost and say "see, Wooden sucks at coaching".
You can run a business poorly, but have a small profit and pay your obligations.
But running it so poorly that you declare bankruptcy, is like saying "fuck, I'm in way over my head here, I can't even afford to pay my debts. Gov't, please help me get of of my debts".
When Trump gets in way over his head with the US, who is going to bail him out?
Perhaps there will be one area where too much money is being spent, but as long as overall revenues and expenses are looking good, things are golden....just like Trump's individual situation. He individually has NOT declared bankruptcy, because he's managed the bigger picture well enough to not need to.
But at least you have stopped conflating his ability to run the country without it going bankrupt, with him kicking a crying baby out of the conference, which is where this entire thread started.
So, you are getting slightly better in your analytical ability. Enough to impress Race anyway, which might not be saying much.
He hasn't proposed any spending cuts.
Sincerely,
Doogs for the past dozen years.
Sure, Clinton's team still had to execute some plays, but all the holding calls and offsides calls were going against the Sanders team for a reason.
I didn't realize something like that could happen to a country with debt-to-GDP of 75% and possessing the world's reserve currency.
Looks like @Swaye was right and it's time to bury a can filled with arrowheads, beads and doghides in the backyard.
So, some Hillary eunuchs need to get some fucking perspective. Trump's been in the hospitality, development, recreation and casino businesses. It takes huge sums of money to get those off the ground and the risks are huge. Do you Hillary fuckbrains really think his investors don't know the risks? Christ. Bankruptcy is part of any businesses survival or closure plan from day one, if the entrepreneur has any brains at all. Form a corp or llc, and if it fails, dump it into bankruptcy. Business 101.
BTW, I'm in my 20th year and going strong, so fuck all you faggots who think you can lecture me about Trump or finance. Bankrupting a poor performing venture is much better than letting it bleed you dry to your last penny, costing you your house, all your shit, and causing you to re-start from zero. Nobody with a brain is that stupid, and that's why the founding fathers put bankruptcy in the constitution and many of them resorted to it themselves. All thus faux outrage is a joke. Trump's a blowhard and a jackass, yet, I find him less intolerable and offensive than most of the leftist commies and hypocrites I encounter daily.