I don't see anything on that website that does an overall analysis on Trump's business successes vs failures. Nothing on the size and scope of those businesses. Just a list of failures. Like I've been saying all along, you have to have the complete picture. For example, if I own a business that's been steadily making me $10 million a year, I can afford to take risks with other businesses. Seriously, there is nothing of value to be learned from that article in terms of the overall success Trump has had with his businesses.
And you're still wrong about the stock thing. CEO's and presidents are hired to do things that the owner(s) of the company do not want to do (maybe they aren't as good, maybe they have a better use of their time, etc). A financial advisor is hired to do things that the owners of the stock do not want to do. But at the end of the day, both the owner(s) of the company and the owner of the stock are responsible for evaluating the performance of the people they hired to perform the task.
How does Trump's dick taste?
I'll take "things we say when we've lost an argument" for $1,000.
I don't see anything on that website that does an overall analysis on Trump's business successes vs failures. Nothing on the size and scope of those businesses. Just a list of failures. Like I've been saying all along, you have to have the complete picture. For example, if I own a business that's been steadily making me $10 million a year, I can afford to take risks with other businesses. Seriously, there is nothing of value to be learned from that article in terms of the overall success Trump has had with his businesses.
And you're still wrong about the stock thing. CEO's and presidents are hired to do things that the owner(s) of the company do not want to do (maybe they aren't as good, maybe they have a better use of their time, etc). A financial advisor is hired to do things that the owners of the stock do not want to do. But at the end of the day, both the owner(s) of the company and the owner of the stock are responsible for evaluating the performance of the people they hired to perform the task.
How does Trump's dick taste?
I'll take "things we say when we've lost an argument" for $1,000.
You act like Race. Your argument was fucktarded. I can post links to where Trump was forced into bankruptcy by his creditors because he owed over $4 billion in debt. Does that give you magnitude?
I don't see anything on that website that does an overall analysis on Trump's business successes vs failures. Nothing on the size and scope of those businesses. Just a list of failures. Like I've been saying all along, you have to have the complete picture. For example, if I own a business that's been steadily making me $10 million a year, I can afford to take risks with other businesses. Seriously, there is nothing of value to be learned from that article in terms of the overall success Trump has had with his businesses.
And you're still wrong about the stock thing. CEO's and presidents are hired to do things that the owner(s) of the company do not want to do (maybe they aren't as good, maybe they have a better use of their time, etc). A financial advisor is hired to do things that the owners of the stock do not want to do. But at the end of the day, both the owner(s) of the company and the owner of the stock are responsible for evaluating the performance of the people they hired to perform the task.
I don't see anything on that website that does an overall analysis on Trump's business successes vs failures. Nothing on the size and scope of those businesses. Just a list of failures. Like I've been saying all along, you have to have the complete picture. For example, if I own a business that's been steadily making me $10 million a year, I can afford to take risks with other businesses. Seriously, there is nothing of value to be learned from that article in terms of the overall success Trump has had with his businesses.
And you're still wrong about the stock thing. CEO's and presidents are hired to do things that the owner(s) of the company do not want to do (maybe they aren't as good, maybe they have a better use of their time, etc). A financial advisor is hired to do things that the owners of the stock do not want to do. But at the end of the day, both the owner(s) of the company and the owner of the stock are responsible for evaluating the performance of the people they hired to perform the task.
How does Trump's dick taste?
This is just Hondo doing the job Hillary pays him for.
"Oh, he told a lady with a crying baby to leave his rally, that means he's going to bankrupt our country and let the Russians invade!"
Nope. The reason people give for believing he could bankrupt the country is that he has already bankrupt 6 businesses, and welched on his debts to numerous working people that he owned money to before those business filed for bankruptcy protection for their debts.
Hi there! The Country is already bankrupt. Soon interest on debt will be our 3rd biggest "program".
That would be my last worry of a Trump Presidency.
I don't see anything on that website that does an overall analysis on Trump's business successes vs failures. Nothing on the size and scope of those businesses.
Economist did an analysis a month ago that shows since he took over daddy's money he hasn't beaten the S&P. I'm sure when you risk adjust those returns for R/E it will show a significant destruction of value. But still...
I don't see anything on that website that does an overall analysis on Trump's business successes vs failures. Nothing on the size and scope of those businesses. Just a list of failures. Like I've been saying all along, you have to have the complete picture. For example, if I own a business that's been steadily making me $10 million a year, I can afford to take risks with other businesses. Seriously, there is nothing of value to be learned from that article in terms of the overall success Trump has had with his businesses.
And you're still wrong about the stock thing. CEO's and presidents are hired to do things that the owner(s) of the company do not want to do (maybe they aren't as good, maybe they have a better use of their time, etc). A financial advisor is hired to do things that the owners of the stock do not want to do. But at the end of the day, both the owner(s) of the company and the owner of the stock are responsible for evaluating the performance of the people they hired to perform the task.
How does Trump's dick taste?
I'll take "things we say when we've lost an argument" for $1,000.
You act like Race. Your argument was fucktarded. I can post links to where Trump was forced into bankruptcy by his creditors because he owed over $4 billion in debt. Does that give you magnitude?
It really doesn't, because I don't know what to compare that to. What were his other businesses worth? How much income were they generating at the time this one went bankrupt? All it tells me is that one of his businesses went bankrupt because it was billions of dollars in debt. It's just one tiny piece of the history of Trump's financial picture.
Also, are you aware that a business filing bankruptcy is not the same as an individual? If you want to argue that Trump uses bankruptcy laws in his favor so that he can take risks, then that would be a more credible argument. But even then, it's basically just him using the rules in place to get ahead...which is actually a common trait of people who are at the top of their game.
It's like I've been saying all along, you can't just cherry pick the failings of a person, present those things and only those things, and then say this person is a failure. When it comes to somebody like Trump's financial situation, well, you're looking at thousands of pages of complex numbers, ratios, and graphs to tell the story...and then you have to understand how to read it all and what kind of conclusions you can draw.
"Oh, he told a lady with a crying baby to leave his rally, that means he's going to bankrupt our country and let the Russians invade!"
Nope. The reason people give for believing he could bankrupt the country is that he has already bankrupt 6 businesses, and welched on his debts to numerous working people that he owned money to before those business filed for bankruptcy protection for their debts.
Hi there! The Country is already bankrupt. Soon interest on debt will be our 3rd biggest "program".
That would be my last worry of a Trump Presidency.
Trump's plan to take care of the debt is awesome too. That wouldn't do any harm at all to default on our debt.
I don't see anything on that website that does an overall analysis on Trump's business successes vs failures. Nothing on the size and scope of those businesses. Just a list of failures. Like I've been saying all along, you have to have the complete picture. For example, if I own a business that's been steadily making me $10 million a year, I can afford to take risks with other businesses. Seriously, there is nothing of value to be learned from that article in terms of the overall success Trump has had with his businesses.
And you're still wrong about the stock thing. CEO's and presidents are hired to do things that the owner(s) of the company do not want to do (maybe they aren't as good, maybe they have a better use of their time, etc). A financial advisor is hired to do things that the owners of the stock do not want to do. But at the end of the day, both the owner(s) of the company and the owner of the stock are responsible for evaluating the performance of the people they hired to perform the task.
How does Trump's dick taste?
I'll take "things we say when we've lost an argument" for $1,000.
You act like Race. Your argument was fucktarded. I can post links to where Trump was forced into bankruptcy by his creditors because he owed over $4 billion in debt. Does that give you magnitude?
It really doesn't, because I don't know what to compare that to. What were his other businesses worth? How much income were they generating at the time this one went bankrupt? All it tells me is that one of his businesses went bankrupt because it was billions of dollars in debt. It's just one tiny piece of the history of Trump's financial picture.
Also, are you aware that a business filing bankruptcy is not the same as an individual? If you want to argue that Trump uses bankruptcy laws in his favor so that he can take risks, then that would be a more credible argument. But even then, it's basically just him using the rules in place to get ahead...which is actually a common trait of people who are at the top of their game.
It's like I've been saying all along, you can't just cherry pick the failings of a person, present those things and only those things, and then say this person is a failure. When it comes to somebody like Trump's financial situation, well, you're looking at thousands of pages of complex numbers, ratios, and graphs to tell the story...and then you have to understand how to read it all and what kind of conclusions you can draw.
I think you just made an argument for Trump to release his tax returns, so we can see magnitude.
Reality is, the fact he's hiding them is worse than if he just released them. Clearly Trump isn't running a campaign on transparency.
"Oh, he told a lady with a crying baby to leave his rally, that means he's going to bankrupt our country and let the Russians invade!"
Nope. The reason people give for believing he could bankrupt the country is that he has already bankrupt 6 businesses, and welched on his debts to numerous working people that he owned money to before those business filed for bankruptcy protection for their debts.
This isn't a smart way to look at it. How many businesses has he owned? How many didn't go bankrupt? Were other people in the same industry going bankrupt too?
This is the equivalent at pulling up Hillary's stock portfolio, which is likely well-diversified, and then pointing to the few instances of failing stocks and saying "See? Hillary doesn't know what the fuck she's doing. She can't even invest in the stock market properly."
Seriously, that is the exact same argument.
Picking a losing stock as part of a diversified portfolio is very different than running your businesses so poorly that 6 of them went bankrupt.
Two prominent billionaires have already criticized him for it. I mention this last part only because some of you guys seem to be really impressed by billionaires.
"Oh, he told a lady with a crying baby to leave his rally, that means he's going to bankrupt our country and let the Russians invade!"
Nope. The reason people give for believing he could bankrupt the country is that he has already bankrupt 6 businesses, and welched on his debts to numerous working people that he owned money to before those business filed for bankruptcy protection for their debts.
Hi there! The Country is already bankrupt. Soon interest on debt will be our 3rd biggest "program".
That would be my last worry of a Trump Presidency.
Good for you but you are missing the point of my response to the guy that was conflating bankruptcy with babies.
No question that there are bigger concerns about Trump.
Depends on if he shows the underlying K1s and corporate returns or just his base return.
Like I said, until he releases them, everything is speculation.
This is exactly what I said earlier. But nobody is asking him to release his business tax returns. Have presidential candidates historically released their business returns?
Depends on if he shows the underlying K1s and corporate returns or just his base return.
Like I said, until he releases them, everything is speculation.
This is exactly what I said earlier. But nobody is asking him to release his business tax returns. Have presidential candidates historically released their business returns?
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That would be my last worry of a Trump Presidency.
Also, are you aware that a business filing bankruptcy is not the same as an individual? If you want to argue that Trump uses bankruptcy laws in his favor so that he can take risks, then that would be a more credible argument. But even then, it's basically just him using the rules in place to get ahead...which is actually a common trait of people who are at the top of their game.
It's like I've been saying all along, you can't just cherry pick the failings of a person, present those things and only those things, and then say this person is a failure. When it comes to somebody like Trump's financial situation, well, you're looking at thousands of pages of complex numbers, ratios, and graphs to tell the story...and then you have to understand how to read it all and what kind of conclusions you can draw.
Reality is, the fact he's hiding them is worse than if he just released them. Clearly Trump isn't running a campaign on transparency.
Like I said, until he releases them, everything is speculation.
Two prominent billionaires have already criticized him for it. I mention this last part only because some of you guys seem to be really impressed by billionaires.
No question that there are bigger concerns about Trump.