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  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    It's the liberal media bias.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,753 Standard Supporter
    At least he's not a criminal embarrassment like the current not my president and TBOB.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Sledog said:

    At least he's not a criminal embarrassment like the current not my president and TBOB.

    Do you know anything about Trump??? He's just as criminal as any politician. But keep defending him.
  • Fenderbender123
    Fenderbender123 Member Posts: 2,989
    edited August 2016
    The reasons I like Trump are the same reasons why people hate him. People are such fucking pussies these days. And all the fucking media bias against him? God, you'd think Trump was a serial rapist and a serial killer.

    All this politically correct behavior we see election after election? This over-the-top, "hey the camera's on me, better behave!", "act presidential" persona we've seen from every candidate election after election is getting old. All it tells me is that you're too big of a fucking pussy to be yourself when the camera's on you. That you just listen to your campaign advisors and practice being somebody you aren't, and get coached, etc...what's wrong? Afraid of some criticism? Well then you ain't no fucking leader, so go fuck off.

    I mean, are we really going to sit here and lie to ourselves and other people and pretend that all these "presidential" acting presidents we've had in the past god only knows how many decades haven't passed shitty legislation or made shitty foreign policy moves? People need to remember why the fuck we elect politicians in the first place....because they have a job to do. But most Americans are completely retarded at trying to judge how good of a job they will do if elected.

    "Oh, he told a lady with a crying baby to leave his rally, that means he's going to bankrupt our country and let the Russians invade!"

    "Oh, this one guy says he said something racist this one time 30 years ago, therefore it not only must be true, but it also means that he definitely is a racist and didn't just say a racist thing, and that he's still a racist because nobody changes in 30 years, AND it also means that he's definitely going to pass a law that orders all black people to go live in a giant cage in the desert."

    Jesus Christ. Jesus FUCKING Christ America.
  • BallSacked
    BallSacked Member Posts: 3,279
    There's not being PC and then there's Donald, a thin skinned baby who has no clue what he's taking about most the time.

    Some of you need to learn the difference.
  • OZONE
    OZONE Member Posts: 2,510



    "Oh, he told a lady with a crying baby to leave his rally, that means he's going to bankrupt our country and let the Russians invade!"

    Nope. The reason people give for believing he could bankrupt the country is that he has already bankrupt 6 businesses, and welched on his debts to numerous working people that he owned money to before those business filed for bankruptcy protection for their debts.
  • Fenderbender123
    Fenderbender123 Member Posts: 2,989

    There's not being PC and then there's Donald, a thin skinned baby who has no clue what he's taking about most the time.

    Some of you need to learn the difference.

    Yup. Some people aren't PC, and some people are even better than not being PC.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    The reasons I like Trump are the same reasons why people hate him. People are such fucking pussies these days. And all the fucking media bias against him? God, you'd think Trump was a serial rapist and a serial killer.

    All this politically correct behavior we see election after election? This over-the-top, "hey the camera's on me, better behave!", "act presidential" persona we've seen from every candidate election after election is getting old. All it tells me is that you're too big of a fucking pussy to be yourself when the camera's on you. That you just listen to your campaign advisors and practice being somebody you aren't, and get coached, etc...what's wrong? Afraid of some criticism? Well then you ain't no fucking leader, so go fuck off.

    I mean, are we really going to sit here and lie to ourselves and other people and pretend that all these "presidential" acting presidents we've had in the past god only knows how many decades haven't passed shitty legislation or made shitty foreign policy moves? People need to remember why the fuck we elect politicians in the first place....because they have a job to do. But most Americans are completely retarded at trying to judge how good of a job they will do if elected.

    "Oh, he told a lady with a crying baby to leave his rally, that means he's going to bankrupt our country and let the Russians invade!"

    "Oh, this one guy says he said something racist this one time 30 years ago, therefore it not only must be true, but it also means that he definitely is a racist and didn't just say a racist thing, and that he's still a racist because nobody changes in 30 years, AND it also means that he's definitely going to pass a law that orders all black people to go live in a giant cage in the desert."

    Jesus Christ. Jesus FUCKING Christ America.

    Fuck off @Tequilla
  • BallSacked
    BallSacked Member Posts: 3,279
    Swaye said:

    There's not being PC and then there's Donald, a thin skinned baby who has no clue what he's taking about most the time.

    Some of you need to learn the difference.

    Define irony.
    Define corny = everything you post.

    FO. Thx!
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    OZONE said:



    "Oh, he told a lady with a crying baby to leave his rally, that means he's going to bankrupt our country and let the Russians invade!"

    Nope. The reason people give for believing he could bankrupt the country is that he has already bankrupt 6 businesses, and welched on his debts to numerous working people that he owned money to before those business filed for bankruptcy protection for their debts.
    This isn't a smart way to look at it. How many businesses has he owned? How many didn't go bankrupt? Were other people in the same industry going bankrupt too?

    This is the equivalent at pulling up Hillary's stock portfolio, which is likely well-diversified, and then pointing to the few instances of failing stocks and saying "See? Hillary doesn't know what the fuck she's doing. She can't even invest in the stock market properly."

    Seriously, that is the exact same argument.
    There are also many businesses that failed but didn't go through bankruptcy. Not to mention your analogy is fucktarded. Given that he has direct control of these companies while failed stocks in Hillary's portfolio she didn't have control over.

    Oh yeah, and how many people has he directly fucked over monetarily. At least Hillary kills people that are a threat to her.
  • Fenderbender123
    Fenderbender123 Member Posts: 2,989
    Okay then how many businesses have failed and how many didn't? I like how we're moving the goal posts, btw, but fair enough. And what were the size and scope of the businesses that failed vs the ones that didn't? Because if I own 10 successful car dealerships, but have had 10 lemonade stands fail, would it not be misleading to say that 50% of my businesses have failed?

    And Hillary absolutely has control over her own stock portfolio. Everyone does. Are you trying to say that she doesn't because she hires a financial advisor to look after it? Oh, you mean kind of like how Trump hires people to run and work for his companies? Sorry, you can't have this argument both ways.



  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    Okay then how many businesses have failed and how many didn't? I like how we're moving the goal posts, btw, but fair enough. And what were the size and scope of the businesses that failed vs the ones that didn't? Because if I own 10 successful car dealerships, but have had 10 lemonade stands fail, would it not be misleading to say that 50% of my businesses have failed?

    And Hillary absolutely has control over her own stock portfolio. Everyone does. Are you trying to say that she doesn't because she hires a financial advisor to look after it? Oh, you mean kind of like how Trump hires people to run and work for his companies? Sorry, you can't have this argument both ways.



    Is your Google broken?

    http://gawker.com/a-complete-list-of-donald-trump-s-business-disasters-1764151188

    If you don't like the source, there's hundreds of others that say the same thing.

    And yes, having direct control over the CEO is completely different than investing in a stock. Holy fuck that was a retarded statement.
  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208

    There's not being PC and then there's Donald, a thin skinned baby who has no clue what he's taking about most the time.

    Some of you need to learn the difference.


    Stop. We believe you. You do not understand what makes Donald Trump successful as a businessman and/or candidate. OK
  • Fenderbender123
    Fenderbender123 Member Posts: 2,989
    edited August 2016
    I don't see anything on that website that does an overall analysis on Trump's business successes vs failures. Nothing on the size and scope of those businesses. Just a list of failures. Like I've been saying all along, you have to have the complete picture. For example, if I own a business that's been steadily making me $10 million a year, I can afford to take risks with other businesses. Seriously, there is nothing of value to be learned from that article in terms of the overall success Trump has had with his businesses.

    And you're still wrong about the stock thing. CEO's and presidents are hired to do things that the owner(s) of the company do not want to do (maybe they aren't as good, maybe they have a better use of their time, etc). A financial advisor is hired to do things that the owners of the stock do not want to do. But at the end of the day, both the owner(s) of the company and the owner of the stock are responsible for evaluating the performance of the people they hired to perform the task.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    I don't see anything on that website that does an overall analysis on Trump's business successes vs failures. Nothing on the size and scope of those businesses. Just a list of failures. Like I've been saying all along, you have to have the complete picture. For example, if I own a business that's been steadily making me $10 million a year, I can afford to take risks with other businesses. Seriously, there is nothing of value to be learned from that article in terms of the overall success Trump has had with his businesses.

    And you're still wrong about the stock thing. CEO's and presidents are hired to do things that the owner(s) of the company do not want to do (maybe they aren't as good, maybe they have a better use of their time, etc). A financial advisor is hired to do things that the owners of the stock do not want to do. But at the end of the day, both the owner(s) of the company and the owner of the stock are responsible for evaluating the performance of the people they hired to perform the task.

    How does Trump's dick taste?
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,753 Standard Supporter
    BearsWiin said:

    Sledog said:

    At least he's not a criminal embarrassment like the current not my president and TBOB.

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    Yeah TBOB is a criminal.
  • Fenderbender123
    Fenderbender123 Member Posts: 2,989
    2001400ex said:


    I don't see anything on that website that does an overall analysis on Trump's business successes vs failures. Nothing on the size and scope of those businesses. Just a list of failures. Like I've been saying all along, you have to have the complete picture. For example, if I own a business that's been steadily making me $10 million a year, I can afford to take risks with other businesses. Seriously, there is nothing of value to be learned from that article in terms of the overall success Trump has had with his businesses.

    And you're still wrong about the stock thing. CEO's and presidents are hired to do things that the owner(s) of the company do not want to do (maybe they aren't as good, maybe they have a better use of their time, etc). A financial advisor is hired to do things that the owners of the stock do not want to do. But at the end of the day, both the owner(s) of the company and the owner of the stock are responsible for evaluating the performance of the people they hired to perform the task.

    How does Trump's dick taste?
    I'll take "things we say when we've lost an argument" for $1,000.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:


    I don't see anything on that website that does an overall analysis on Trump's business successes vs failures. Nothing on the size and scope of those businesses. Just a list of failures. Like I've been saying all along, you have to have the complete picture. For example, if I own a business that's been steadily making me $10 million a year, I can afford to take risks with other businesses. Seriously, there is nothing of value to be learned from that article in terms of the overall success Trump has had with his businesses.

    And you're still wrong about the stock thing. CEO's and presidents are hired to do things that the owner(s) of the company do not want to do (maybe they aren't as good, maybe they have a better use of their time, etc). A financial advisor is hired to do things that the owners of the stock do not want to do. But at the end of the day, both the owner(s) of the company and the owner of the stock are responsible for evaluating the performance of the people they hired to perform the task.

    How does Trump's dick taste?
    I'll take "things we say when we've lost an argument" for $1,000.
    You act like Race. Your argument was fucktarded. I can post links to where Trump was forced into bankruptcy by his creditors because he owed over $4 billion in debt. Does that give you magnitude?
  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,739 Founders Club

    Shit thread shit poster

    I really like how surly you have become.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,753 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:


    I don't see anything on that website that does an overall analysis on Trump's business successes vs failures. Nothing on the size and scope of those businesses. Just a list of failures. Like I've been saying all along, you have to have the complete picture. For example, if I own a business that's been steadily making me $10 million a year, I can afford to take risks with other businesses. Seriously, there is nothing of value to be learned from that article in terms of the overall success Trump has had with his businesses.

    And you're still wrong about the stock thing. CEO's and presidents are hired to do things that the owner(s) of the company do not want to do (maybe they aren't as good, maybe they have a better use of their time, etc). A financial advisor is hired to do things that the owners of the stock do not want to do. But at the end of the day, both the owner(s) of the company and the owner of the stock are responsible for evaluating the performance of the people they hired to perform the task.

    How does Trump's dick taste?
    This is just Hondo doing the job Hillary pays him for.
  • BallSacked
    BallSacked Member Posts: 3,279

    There's not being PC and then there's Donald, a thin skinned baby who has no clue what he's taking about most the time.

    Some of you need to learn the difference.


    Stop. We believe you. You do not understand what makes Donald Trump successful as a businessman and/or candidate. OK
    Sure sounds like his campaign is super successful right now.
  • BallSacked
    BallSacked Member Posts: 3,279

    I don't see anything on that website that does an overall analysis on Trump's business successes vs failures. Nothing on the size and scope of those businesses.

    Economist did an analysis a month ago that shows since he took over daddy's money he hasn't beaten the S&P. I'm sure when you risk adjust those returns for R/E it will show a significant destruction of value. But still...
  • Fenderbender123
    Fenderbender123 Member Posts: 2,989
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:


    I don't see anything on that website that does an overall analysis on Trump's business successes vs failures. Nothing on the size and scope of those businesses. Just a list of failures. Like I've been saying all along, you have to have the complete picture. For example, if I own a business that's been steadily making me $10 million a year, I can afford to take risks with other businesses. Seriously, there is nothing of value to be learned from that article in terms of the overall success Trump has had with his businesses.

    And you're still wrong about the stock thing. CEO's and presidents are hired to do things that the owner(s) of the company do not want to do (maybe they aren't as good, maybe they have a better use of their time, etc). A financial advisor is hired to do things that the owners of the stock do not want to do. But at the end of the day, both the owner(s) of the company and the owner of the stock are responsible for evaluating the performance of the people they hired to perform the task.

    How does Trump's dick taste?
    I'll take "things we say when we've lost an argument" for $1,000.
    You act like Race. Your argument was fucktarded. I can post links to where Trump was forced into bankruptcy by his creditors because he owed over $4 billion in debt. Does that give you magnitude?
    It really doesn't, because I don't know what to compare that to. What were his other businesses worth? How much income were they generating at the time this one went bankrupt? All it tells me is that one of his businesses went bankrupt because it was billions of dollars in debt. It's just one tiny piece of the history of Trump's financial picture.

    Also, are you aware that a business filing bankruptcy is not the same as an individual? If you want to argue that Trump uses bankruptcy laws in his favor so that he can take risks, then that would be a more credible argument. But even then, it's basically just him using the rules in place to get ahead...which is actually a common trait of people who are at the top of their game.

    It's like I've been saying all along, you can't just cherry pick the failings of a person, present those things and only those things, and then say this person is a failure. When it comes to somebody like Trump's financial situation, well, you're looking at thousands of pages of complex numbers, ratios, and graphs to tell the story...and then you have to understand how to read it all and what kind of conclusions you can draw.