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Good post Ice.Ice_Holmvik said:
Sark WAS better than TY. I am thankful for having Sarkisian at UW. He came to us at 0-12 and was exactly the boost of energy the program needed after the tyranny of Ty. He bropught back the spirit of "Say Who, Say What?" Who else was coming to UW at that time? He got us to the point where we could hire a Chris Petersen. Sark plateaued here but in the history of UW going forward he should be remembered as a an important piece in the rebuild of UW. Thank God Hayden hired him when he did and he imploded at USC not UW or his time here would not be seen as favorably.PurpleJ said:
Isn't their record the difference? FMFYFE.Ice_Holmvik said:
Ty fancied himself a molder of men but that was a fallacy. Petersen has a track record at Boise that speaks for itself. BUT the big difference is that Pete's first two recruiting classes are better than all of Ty's recruiting classes combined. And it is not even close. You can mold men all you want. You still gotta have the Jimmie's and Joe's.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Ty was a molder of men who built teams the right way until he wasn't.Ice_Holmvik said:
This is a quality response. I understand completely what you are saying. But I do see a HUGE difference between how Sark built his teams and the culture he groomed compared to how Pete is building his team. This year should be a great barometer of where this team is headed.TurdBuffer said:@Ice_Holmvik: I get it's a process. But we're still not seeing the big, important wins. UW's been "on the upswing" or "building" or "doing it the right way" ever since 2008. It's now 2016. Sark had his best, 9 win season before he left, but everyone knows that season's schedule had more to do with win #9 than team improvement. Truth is, UW plateaued under Sark, still losing the big games and going to shit-tier bowls.
CP is different, and recruiting is a great indicator of internal program strength. But the red flag-wearing elephant in the room is Smiff. That's the one, big decision that I question CP's reasoning on. The Tedford hire may yield positive results, but it also shines a spotlight on the truck full of "special needs" equipment and support Smiff requires, which is like dumping thousands into a jalopy car worth $500.
Point that I agree with Race and iDawg about, is that nobody should be sporting a sweat pants boner anymore, until we see UW beating at least 3 of 4 Cali teams, both AZ's and of course, Oregon. And we can't get there with the best D in the conference. We need a potent offense, not a weak, troubled, dysfunctional passing game that makes UW one dimensional like last year.
This could be "the year," but fans have been saying that since 2008. CP's a big boy, paid a lot of money, in his third year of doing a job he says he always wanted. It's show me time. No more boner teases.
Sark was better than Ty, too. -
Reusing the incremental progress argument from the Sark era is always special.puppylove_sugarsteel said:
If he wins 9 games that will be an improvement in year 3, during a difficult rebuilding job. And a nice springboard into year 4, 5 and 6TierbsHsotBoobs said:
If our coach is worth having pride in, he'll win the North this year and pop off.puppylove_sugarsteel said:
Good stuff Billy, and well put. This is how dawg fans used to think. They had pride in their team, their head coach. Then boofs like J, Nacho, Race came along.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
Nobody knows what's going to happen. That's the fucking point. Instead of just giving up and being as negative as possible for all 8 months of the offseason, I'll choose to see what happens. Signs are pointing to something better than the usual 7 or 8 win season. If not, we know CP is just another Boise CC coach who feasted on the NM States of the world. I'm on record as saying he's at least a good coach (probably not elite like Kelly or Meyer). If he's not fine. I'm wrong occasionally.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Except he is wrong, unless you believe 4-5 > 4-5 > 5-4 > 5-4 > 5-4 > 5-4HuskyInAZ said:
You are not wrong.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
I'm not butt hurt.m I'm Puppy's brother, remember? Some criticism is warranted and Smith probably should have been fired, and the Sark excuse (used by tons on here, but not me) is flimsy. Youth was more legitimate. I agree, he's probably 72-30 in the Pac 12.TurdBuffer said:
Bill: You did not write Oregon State. No, you didn't. My eyes deceive me, right?Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
Oklahomo, Oregon two years in a row, virgin tech, tcu twice, georgia Oregon stTierbsHsotBoobs said:
92-12 proved that he could inherit the dominant program in the WAC and beat retards.puppylove_sugarsteel said:
Pete's #1 quality is as a sideline coach Turd. WTF, do you even watch college football? . 92-12 before he got to UW pretty much backs it up. I watched every notable game Pete coached at bsu. Simply a master in big games. Sometimes puppy just shakes his head at some of the shit that dribbles out your cunts out here (hi kim)TurdBuffer said:
True and accurate. Pac12 is way tougher, top to bottom, than the MW, where many of Pete's wins were in his pocket before the game started. Context matters for expectations.EwaDawg said:
Pete is good at developing talent. In game coaching? He can get better.dnc said:
I know you're being sarcasmic but everything you said before the final sentence is true.PurpleJ said:Yeah and we had a GREAT defense and only went 7-6 (4-5). The metrics are pointing up.
Pete sure did a hell of a job last year.
I don't understand all the hurt butts about CP. I'm a fan, and I believe we're watching him grow into a top-tier Pac12 coach. But he's not there yet so stop dumping 100% of the fault on "Sark's players" or "youth." Who brought us Smiff, huh? Maybe this is the year CP breaks through to the top of the league. Great. But he got caught with his pants down around his ankles several times in '14 and '15, because the Pac12 is way tougher to navigate week in and week out than the MW. Very seldom will there be cupcakes in Pac12 league like in the MW. And that's why CP was 92-12 and not 72-30, which is still fucking great and justifies hiring him.
Jesus Christ, are we really arguing the MW is equal in strength to the Pac12?
There are people here who are just entrenched in their own narratives and thinking from 2008 or they're just trying hard to fit and be funny (usually failing) in or not rock the boat. I'm done with that shit. Tell me I'm wrong.
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More conference games in two years than Peterman did with Sark's players.puppylove_sugarsteel said:
How many games did Sark win with Ty's 0-12 team (basically same players)? Next topic?TurdBuffer said:
Puppy, puppy, puppy....That's just FS and you know it. Sark left the cupboard bare in spots, no doubt, but Ty had no D worth a shit, even with good players on the team, and couldn't hold a candle to all the D studs on CP's first, well-coached defense at UW.puppylove_sugarsteel said:
Uh Turd, those are the facts. This team was on par with ty's 0-12 team when Pete took over. Cyress was that bad. This team would have won 4 games last year with Sark and maybe 5-6 next year. Those are more facts.TurdBuffer said:
Bill: You did not write Oregon State. No, you didn't. My eyes deceive me, right?Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
Oklahomo, Oregon two years in a row, virgin tech, tcu twice, georgia Oregon stTierbsHsotBoobs said:
92-12 proved that he could inherit the dominant program in the WAC and beat retards.puppylove_sugarsteel said:
Pete's #1 quality is as a sideline coach Turd. WTF, do you even watch college football? . 92-12 before he got to UW pretty much backs it up. I watched every notable game Pete coached at bsu. Simply a master in big games. Sometimes puppy just shakes his head at some of the shit that dribbles out your cunts out here (hi kim)TurdBuffer said:
True and accurate. Pac12 is way tougher, top to bottom, than the MW, where many of Pete's wins were in his pocket before the game started. Context matters for expectations.EwaDawg said:
Pete is good at developing talent. In game coaching? He can get better.dnc said:
I know you're being sarcasmic but everything you said before the final sentence is true.PurpleJ said:Yeah and we had a GREAT defense and only went 7-6 (4-5). The metrics are pointing up.
Pete sure did a hell of a job last year.
I don't understand all the hurt butts about CP. I'm a fan, and I believe we're watching him grow into a top-tier Pac12 coach. But he's not there yet so stop dumping 100% of the fault on "Sark's players" or "youth." Who brought us Smiff, huh? Maybe this is the year CP breaks through to the top of the league. Great. But he got caught with his pants down around his ankles several times in '14 and '15, because the Pac12 is way tougher to navigate week in and week out than the MW. Very seldom will there be cupcakes in Pac12 league like in the MW. And that's why CP was 92-12 and not 72-30, which is still fucking great and justifies hiring him.
Jesus Christ, are we really arguing the MW is equal in strength to the Pac12?
I like and share your optimism, Pup. But you can't keep up this "Move along, nothing to see here" about the last 15 years. We all know the difference between hype and results. Well, most of us, anyway.
Either you are arguing that Ty is a better recruiter than Sark, Sark is a better coach than Peterman, or abundance.
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Im just arguing that you dont understand any of this stuff. Its comedy for me, provides quality material. Ill patiently wait for you to attempt to jump on the pup-pete wagon next year. Predicting game 5. Will be enjoyable.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
More conference games in two years than Peterman did with Sark's players.puppylove_sugarsteel said:
How many games did Sark win with Ty's 0-12 team (basically same players)? Next topic?TurdBuffer said:
Puppy, puppy, puppy....That's just FS and you know it. Sark left the cupboard bare in spots, no doubt, but Ty had no D worth a shit, even with good players on the team, and couldn't hold a candle to all the D studs on CP's first, well-coached defense at UW.puppylove_sugarsteel said:
Uh Turd, those are the facts. This team was on par with ty's 0-12 team when Pete took over. Cyress was that bad. This team would have won 4 games last year with Sark and maybe 5-6 next year. Those are more facts.TurdBuffer said:
Bill: You did not write Oregon State. No, you didn't. My eyes deceive me, right?Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
Oklahomo, Oregon two years in a row, virgin tech, tcu twice, georgia Oregon stTierbsHsotBoobs said:
92-12 proved that he could inherit the dominant program in the WAC and beat retards.puppylove_sugarsteel said:
Pete's #1 quality is as a sideline coach Turd. WTF, do you even watch college football? . 92-12 before he got to UW pretty much backs it up. I watched every notable game Pete coached at bsu. Simply a master in big games. Sometimes puppy just shakes his head at some of the shit that dribbles out your cunts out here (hi kim)TurdBuffer said:
True and accurate. Pac12 is way tougher, top to bottom, than the MW, where many of Pete's wins were in his pocket before the game started. Context matters for expectations.EwaDawg said:
Pete is good at developing talent. In game coaching? He can get better.dnc said:
I know you're being sarcasmic but everything you said before the final sentence is true.PurpleJ said:Yeah and we had a GREAT defense and only went 7-6 (4-5). The metrics are pointing up.
Pete sure did a hell of a job last year.
I don't understand all the hurt butts about CP. I'm a fan, and I believe we're watching him grow into a top-tier Pac12 coach. But he's not there yet so stop dumping 100% of the fault on "Sark's players" or "youth." Who brought us Smiff, huh? Maybe this is the year CP breaks through to the top of the league. Great. But he got caught with his pants down around his ankles several times in '14 and '15, because the Pac12 is way tougher to navigate week in and week out than the MW. Very seldom will there be cupcakes in Pac12 league like in the MW. And that's why CP was 92-12 and not 72-30, which is still fucking great and justifies hiring him.
Jesus Christ, are we really arguing the MW is equal in strength to the Pac12?
I like and share your optimism, Pup. But you can't keep up this "Move along, nothing to see here" about the last 15 years. We all know the difference between hype and results. Well, most of us, anyway.
Either you are arguing that Ty is a better recruiter than Sark, Sark is a better coach than Peterman, or abundance. -
And an offense that could never give them a breather. Football 101. You're still in remedials is what it appearsBaseman said:
Lest we forget about the 2014 throw away season with the a defense that had three first rounders + one second rounder and practice squad legend Andrew HudsonPurpleJ said:
Sounds like a lot of tired excuses. Your fucktard man crush Peterman can't figure out how to win with a good defense and stud running back in college football. Instead, he leans on the pre-pubescent boy wonder that he doused in anointing oil and set aflame with his half baked offensive philosophy.puppylove_sugarsteel said:
And a 17 year old qb with hairless armpits, 2 freshmen bookends (1 true) on the Oline, and 1 ok WR . Golly gee I wonder why we went 7-6. Oh with the #1 pick in the NFL draft taking snaps for cal, senior qb's at Stanford, Oregon and Utah...are you really this cunttarded J? Fuck Base, there's an open space for a new poster with a minimal football IQ. J's days are numbered. Fucking idiotPurpleJ said:Yeah and we had a GREAT defense and only went 7-6 (4-5). The metrics are pointing up. Pete sure did a hell of a job last year.
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Hell yes CP is different, and better than Sark. But for two years, he hasn't been at his best, or where he needs to be to succeed at UW and in the Pac12. I think he's on his way, but I also think the UW job and Pac12 competition, top to bottom, was a big step up for CP, and he got smacked around while his staff got exposed. He's cleaned and refined most of his staff, but, to Pup's disdain, I'm betting against Smiff. There's a reason Tedford is running alongside him, holding the seat and handlebars without letting go.Ice_Holmvik said:
This is a quality response. I understand completely what you are saying. But I do see a HUGE difference between how Sark built his teams and the culture he groomed compared to how Pete is building his team. This year should be a great barometer of where this team is headed.TurdBuffer said:@Ice_Holmvik: I get it's a process. But we're still not seeing the big, important wins. UW's been "on the upswing" or "building" or "doing it the right way" ever since 2008. It's now 2016. Sark had his best, 9 win season before he left, but everyone knows that season's schedule had more to do with win #9 than team improvement. Truth is, UW plateaued under Sark, still losing the big games and going to shit-tier bowls.
CP is different, and recruiting is a great indicator of internal program strength. But the red flag-wearing elephant in the room is Smiff. That's the one, big decision that I question CP's reasoning on. The Tedford hire may yield positive results, but it also shines a spotlight on the truck full of "special needs" equipment and support Smiff requires, which is like dumping thousands into a jalopy car worth $500.
Point that I agree with Race and iDawg about, is that nobody should be sporting a sweat pants boner anymore, until we see UW beating at least 3 of 4 Cali teams, both AZ's and of course, Oregon. And we can't get there with the best D in the conference. We need a potent offense, not a weak, troubled, dysfunctional passing game that makes UW one dimensional like last year.
This could be "the year," but fans have been saying that since 2008. CP's a big boy, paid a lot of money, in his third year of doing a job he says he always wanted. It's show me time. No more boner teases. -
If I don't jump on this year, I'm never jumping on.puppylove_sugarsteel said:
Im just arguing that you dont understand any of this stuff. Its comedy for me, provides quality material. Ill patiently wait for you to attempt to jump on the pup-pete wagon next year. Predicting game 5. Will be enjoyable.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
More conference games in two years than Peterman did with Sark's players.puppylove_sugarsteel said:
How many games did Sark win with Ty's 0-12 team (basically same players)? Next topic?TurdBuffer said:
Puppy, puppy, puppy....That's just FS and you know it. Sark left the cupboard bare in spots, no doubt, but Ty had no D worth a shit, even with good players on the team, and couldn't hold a candle to all the D studs on CP's first, well-coached defense at UW.puppylove_sugarsteel said:
Uh Turd, those are the facts. This team was on par with ty's 0-12 team when Pete took over. Cyress was that bad. This team would have won 4 games last year with Sark and maybe 5-6 next year. Those are more facts.TurdBuffer said:
Bill: You did not write Oregon State. No, you didn't. My eyes deceive me, right?Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
Oklahomo, Oregon two years in a row, virgin tech, tcu twice, georgia Oregon stTierbsHsotBoobs said:
92-12 proved that he could inherit the dominant program in the WAC and beat retards.puppylove_sugarsteel said:
Pete's #1 quality is as a sideline coach Turd. WTF, do you even watch college football? . 92-12 before he got to UW pretty much backs it up. I watched every notable game Pete coached at bsu. Simply a master in big games. Sometimes puppy just shakes his head at some of the shit that dribbles out your cunts out here (hi kim)TurdBuffer said:
True and accurate. Pac12 is way tougher, top to bottom, than the MW, where many of Pete's wins were in his pocket before the game started. Context matters for expectations.EwaDawg said:
Pete is good at developing talent. In game coaching? He can get better.dnc said:
I know you're being sarcasmic but everything you said before the final sentence is true.PurpleJ said:Yeah and we had a GREAT defense and only went 7-6 (4-5). The metrics are pointing up.
Pete sure did a hell of a job last year.
I don't understand all the hurt butts about CP. I'm a fan, and I believe we're watching him grow into a top-tier Pac12 coach. But he's not there yet so stop dumping 100% of the fault on "Sark's players" or "youth." Who brought us Smiff, huh? Maybe this is the year CP breaks through to the top of the league. Great. But he got caught with his pants down around his ankles several times in '14 and '15, because the Pac12 is way tougher to navigate week in and week out than the MW. Very seldom will there be cupcakes in Pac12 league like in the MW. And that's why CP was 92-12 and not 72-30, which is still fucking great and justifies hiring him.
Jesus Christ, are we really arguing the MW is equal in strength to the Pac12?
I like and share your optimism, Pup. But you can't keep up this "Move along, nothing to see here" about the last 15 years. We all know the difference between hype and results. Well, most of us, anyway.
Either you are arguing that Ty is a better recruiter than Sark, Sark is a better coach than Peterman, or abundance.
Your arguments suck by the way. Pick one and stick to it. -
And Peterman has done fuckall to fix that offense since.puppylove_sugarsteel said:
And an offense that could never give them a breather. Football 101. You're still in remedials is what it appearsBaseman said:
Lest we forget about the 2014 throw away season with the a defense that had three first rounders + one second rounder and practice squad legend Andrew HudsonPurpleJ said:
Sounds like a lot of tired excuses. Your fucktard man crush Peterman can't figure out how to win with a good defense and stud running back in college football. Instead, he leans on the pre-pubescent boy wonder that he doused in anointing oil and set aflame with his half baked offensive philosophy.puppylove_sugarsteel said:
And a 17 year old qb with hairless armpits, 2 freshmen bookends (1 true) on the Oline, and 1 ok WR . Golly gee I wonder why we went 7-6. Oh with the #1 pick in the NFL draft taking snaps for cal, senior qb's at Stanford, Oregon and Utah...are you really this cunttarded J? Fuck Base, there's an open space for a new poster with a minimal football IQ. J's days are numbered. Fucking idiotPurpleJ said:Yeah and we had a GREAT defense and only went 7-6 (4-5). The metrics are pointing up. Pete sure did a hell of a job last year.
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Turd, ok points but Pete goes as his talent goes. As they improve so will his record. (Jimmys and joes not x's and o's) ever heard that? That's HEAD FUCKING COACH-speak, NOT message board fags. You dipshits never cease to amaze me.
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Your original statement was Ty. But if you want to go with Ron Zook now all I can say is DAMN... It is obvious Petersen is not Zook. Look deeper into how the program is being built is all I can say.Ice_Holmvik said:
Fine.
Ron Zook was a great recruiter too. How did that work out?
That a babe Ice. You might not only be rookie of the year, but
A contender for splitters 6th-man. Wheres ballsacky? -
Sark won 5 in 2009. And CP won 8 his first year w/"Sark's guys." You wrote that CP's 8 win 2014 team was the same as Ty's 0-12 team. And now you're saying 5=8.puppylove_sugarsteel said:
How many games did Sark win with Ty's 0-12 team (basically same players)? Next topic?TurdBuffer said:
Puppy, puppy, puppy....That's just FS and you know it. Sark left the cupboard bare in spots, no doubt, but Ty had no D worth a shit, even with good players on the team, and couldn't hold a candle to all the D studs on CP's first, well-coached defense at UW.puppylove_sugarsteel said:
Uh Turd, those are the facts. This team was on par with ty's 0-12 team when Pete took over. Cyress was that bad. This team would have won 4 games last year with Sark and maybe 5-6 next year. Those are more facts.TurdBuffer said:
Bill: You did not write Oregon State. No, you didn't. My eyes deceive me, right?Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
Oklahomo, Oregon two years in a row, virgin tech, tcu twice, georgia Oregon stTierbsHsotBoobs said:
92-12 proved that he could inherit the dominant program in the WAC and beat retards.puppylove_sugarsteel said:
Pete's #1 quality is as a sideline coach Turd. WTF, do you even watch college football? . 92-12 before he got to UW pretty much backs it up. I watched every notable game Pete coached at bsu. Simply a master in big games. Sometimes puppy just shakes his head at some of the shit that dribbles out your cunts out here (hi kim)TurdBuffer said:
True and accurate. Pac12 is way tougher, top to bottom, than the MW, where many of Pete's wins were in his pocket before the game started. Context matters for expectations.EwaDawg said:
Pete is good at developing talent. In game coaching? He can get better.dnc said:
I know you're being sarcasmic but everything you said before the final sentence is true.PurpleJ said:Yeah and we had a GREAT defense and only went 7-6 (4-5). The metrics are pointing up.
Pete sure did a hell of a job last year.
I don't understand all the hurt butts about CP. I'm a fan, and I believe we're watching him grow into a top-tier Pac12 coach. But he's not there yet so stop dumping 100% of the fault on "Sark's players" or "youth." Who brought us Smiff, huh? Maybe this is the year CP breaks through to the top of the league. Great. But he got caught with his pants down around his ankles several times in '14 and '15, because the Pac12 is way tougher to navigate week in and week out than the MW. Very seldom will there be cupcakes in Pac12 league like in the MW. And that's why CP was 92-12 and not 72-30, which is still fucking great and justifies hiring him.
Jesus Christ, are we really arguing the MW is equal in strength to the Pac12?
I like and share your optimism, Pup. But you can't keep up this "Move along, nothing to see here" about the last 15 years. We all know the difference between hype and results. Well, most of us, anyway.
I think I know what you're trying to say, but your synapses just aren't firing. At long last, your point is that CP is better than Sark? Is that your point, Pup? -
Well Pete is a better coach obviously. Both took over shit teams. Sark inherited the better team, Pete did more with less.TurdBuffer said:
Sark won 5 in 2009. And CP won 8 his first year w/"Sark's guys." You wrote that CP's 8 win 2014 team was the same as Ty's 0-12 team. And now you're saying 5=8.puppylove_sugarsteel said:
How many games did Sark win with Ty's 0-12 team (basically same players)? Next topic?TurdBuffer said:
Puppy, puppy, puppy....That's just FS and you know it. Sark left the cupboard bare in spots, no doubt, but Ty had no D worth a shit, even with good players on the team, and couldn't hold a candle to all the D studs on CP's first, well-coached defense at UW.puppylove_sugarsteel said:
Uh Turd, those are the facts. This team was on par with ty's 0-12 team when Pete took over. Cyress was that bad. This team would have won 4 games last year with Sark and maybe 5-6 next year. Those are more facts.TurdBuffer said:
Bill: You did not write Oregon State. No, you didn't. My eyes deceive me, right?Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
Oklahomo, Oregon two years in a row, virgin tech, tcu twice, georgia Oregon stTierbsHsotBoobs said:
92-12 proved that he could inherit the dominant program in the WAC and beat retards.puppylove_sugarsteel said:
Pete's #1 quality is as a sideline coach Turd. WTF, do you even watch college football? . 92-12 before he got to UW pretty much backs it up. I watched every notable game Pete coached at bsu. Simply a master in big games. Sometimes puppy just shakes his head at some of the shit that dribbles out your cunts out here (hi kim)TurdBuffer said:
True and accurate. Pac12 is way tougher, top to bottom, than the MW, where many of Pete's wins were in his pocket before the game started. Context matters for expectations.EwaDawg said:
Pete is good at developing talent. In game coaching? He can get better.dnc said:
I know you're being sarcasmic but everything you said before the final sentence is true.PurpleJ said:Yeah and we had a GREAT defense and only went 7-6 (4-5). The metrics are pointing up.
Pete sure did a hell of a job last year.
I don't understand all the hurt butts about CP. I'm a fan, and I believe we're watching him grow into a top-tier Pac12 coach. But he's not there yet so stop dumping 100% of the fault on "Sark's players" or "youth." Who brought us Smiff, huh? Maybe this is the year CP breaks through to the top of the league. Great. But he got caught with his pants down around his ankles several times in '14 and '15, because the Pac12 is way tougher to navigate week in and week out than the MW. Very seldom will there be cupcakes in Pac12 league like in the MW. And that's why CP was 92-12 and not 72-30, which is still fucking great and justifies hiring him.
Jesus Christ, are we really arguing the MW is equal in strength to the Pac12?
I like and share your optimism, Pup. But you can't keep up this "Move along, nothing to see here" about the last 15 years. We all know the difference between hype and results. Well, most of us, anyway.
I think I know what you're trying to say, but your synapses just aren't firing. -
Okay!! There we go. Christ! I'm fucking exhausted!!
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Pete just needs more bullets.puppylove_sugarsteel said:Turd, ok points but Pete goes as his talent goes. As they improve so will his record. (Jimmys and joes not x's and o's) ever heard that? That's HEAD FUCKING COACH-speak, NOT message board fags. You dipshits never cease to amaze me.
That HEAD FUCKING COACH-speak is Ty's material. -
LOL.puppylove_sugarsteel said:
Well Pete is a better coach obviously. Both took over shit teams. Sark inherited the better team, Pete did more with less.TurdBuffer said:
Sark won 5 in 2009. And CP won 8 his first year w/"Sark's guys." You wrote that CP's 8 win 2014 team was the same as Ty's 0-12 team. And now you're saying 5=8.puppylove_sugarsteel said:
How many games did Sark win with Ty's 0-12 team (basically same players)? Next topic?TurdBuffer said:
Puppy, puppy, puppy....That's just FS and you know it. Sark left the cupboard bare in spots, no doubt, but Ty had no D worth a shit, even with good players on the team, and couldn't hold a candle to all the D studs on CP's first, well-coached defense at UW.puppylove_sugarsteel said:
Uh Turd, those are the facts. This team was on par with ty's 0-12 team when Pete took over. Cyress was that bad. This team would have won 4 games last year with Sark and maybe 5-6 next year. Those are more facts.TurdBuffer said:
Bill: You did not write Oregon State. No, you didn't. My eyes deceive me, right?Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
Oklahomo, Oregon two years in a row, virgin tech, tcu twice, georgia Oregon stTierbsHsotBoobs said:
92-12 proved that he could inherit the dominant program in the WAC and beat retards.puppylove_sugarsteel said:
Pete's #1 quality is as a sideline coach Turd. WTF, do you even watch college football? . 92-12 before he got to UW pretty much backs it up. I watched every notable game Pete coached at bsu. Simply a master in big games. Sometimes puppy just shakes his head at some of the shit that dribbles out your cunts out here (hi kim)TurdBuffer said:
True and accurate. Pac12 is way tougher, top to bottom, than the MW, where many of Pete's wins were in his pocket before the game started. Context matters for expectations.EwaDawg said:
Pete is good at developing talent. In game coaching? He can get better.dnc said:
I know you're being sarcasmic but everything you said before the final sentence is true.PurpleJ said:Yeah and we had a GREAT defense and only went 7-6 (4-5). The metrics are pointing up.
Pete sure did a hell of a job last year.
I don't understand all the hurt butts about CP. I'm a fan, and I believe we're watching him grow into a top-tier Pac12 coach. But he's not there yet so stop dumping 100% of the fault on "Sark's players" or "youth." Who brought us Smiff, huh? Maybe this is the year CP breaks through to the top of the league. Great. But he got caught with his pants down around his ankles several times in '14 and '15, because the Pac12 is way tougher to navigate week in and week out than the MW. Very seldom will there be cupcakes in Pac12 league like in the MW. And that's why CP was 92-12 and not 72-30, which is still fucking great and justifies hiring him.
Jesus Christ, are we really arguing the MW is equal in strength to the Pac12?
I like and share your optimism, Pup. But you can't keep up this "Move along, nothing to see here" about the last 15 years. We all know the difference between hype and results. Well, most of us, anyway.
I think I know what you're trying to say, but your synapses just aren't firing.
This faggot thinks Sark inherited more talent than Peterman did. So even though Puppy praised Sark for years, he now thinks Ty is a better recruiter than Sark. -
UW plays a nine game schedule. Hope this helps. The three faggots they open with now don't count.
Out of those nine games two are tough pending USC getting a real coach or UCLA not imploding. That would be three. Fuck ASU and the rest of the shit in this league.
Going 7-2 in league would be a huge improvement but would likely still be a 3rd place Finnish, meaning no game against Finland for the gold
Beat Oregon, Stanford and win the North. Nothing else matters -
Meet me in Temecula.RaceBannon said:UW plays a nine game schedule. Hope this helps. The three faggots they open with now don't count.
Out of those nine games two are tough pending USC getting a real coach or UCLA not imploding. That would be three. Fuck ASU and the rest of the shit in this league.
Going 7-2 in league would be a huge improvement but would likely still be a 3rd place Finnish, meaning no game against Finland for the gold
Beat Oregon, Stanford and win the North. Nothing else matters -
Talia Crichton and Nate Fellner started as true freshmen on the 09 team. Greg Christine and Nick Wood started games on the OL. Quinten Richardson and Adam Long started opposite Trufant at CB.puppylove_sugarsteel said:
Well Pete is a better coach obviously. Both took over shit teams. Sark inherited the better team, Pete did more with less.TurdBuffer said:
Sark won 5 in 2009. And CP won 8 his first year w/"Sark's guys." You wrote that CP's 8 win 2014 team was the same as Ty's 0-12 team. And now you're saying 5=8.puppylove_sugarsteel said:
How many games did Sark win with Ty's 0-12 team (basically same players)? Next topic?TurdBuffer said:
Puppy, puppy, puppy....That's just FS and you know it. Sark left the cupboard bare in spots, no doubt, but Ty had no D worth a shit, even with good players on the team, and couldn't hold a candle to all the D studs on CP's first, well-coached defense at UW.puppylove_sugarsteel said:
Uh Turd, those are the facts. This team was on par with ty's 0-12 team when Pete took over. Cyress was that bad. This team would have won 4 games last year with Sark and maybe 5-6 next year. Those are more facts.TurdBuffer said:
Bill: You did not write Oregon State. No, you didn't. My eyes deceive me, right?Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
Oklahomo, Oregon two years in a row, virgin tech, tcu twice, georgia Oregon stTierbsHsotBoobs said:
92-12 proved that he could inherit the dominant program in the WAC and beat retards.puppylove_sugarsteel said:
Pete's #1 quality is as a sideline coach Turd. WTF, do you even watch college football? . 92-12 before he got to UW pretty much backs it up. I watched every notable game Pete coached at bsu. Simply a master in big games. Sometimes puppy just shakes his head at some of the shit that dribbles out your cunts out here (hi kim)TurdBuffer said:
True and accurate. Pac12 is way tougher, top to bottom, than the MW, where many of Pete's wins were in his pocket before the game started. Context matters for expectations.EwaDawg said:
Pete is good at developing talent. In game coaching? He can get better.dnc said:
I know you're being sarcasmic but everything you said before the final sentence is true.PurpleJ said:Yeah and we had a GREAT defense and only went 7-6 (4-5). The metrics are pointing up.
Pete sure did a hell of a job last year.
I don't understand all the hurt butts about CP. I'm a fan, and I believe we're watching him grow into a top-tier Pac12 coach. But he's not there yet so stop dumping 100% of the fault on "Sark's players" or "youth." Who brought us Smiff, huh? Maybe this is the year CP breaks through to the top of the league. Great. But he got caught with his pants down around his ankles several times in '14 and '15, because the Pac12 is way tougher to navigate week in and week out than the MW. Very seldom will there be cupcakes in Pac12 league like in the MW. And that's why CP was 92-12 and not 72-30, which is still fucking great and justifies hiring him.
Jesus Christ, are we really arguing the MW is equal in strength to the Pac12?
I like and share your optimism, Pup. But you can't keep up this "Move along, nothing to see here" about the last 15 years. We all know the difference between hype and results. Well, most of us, anyway.
I think I know what you're trying to say, but your synapses just aren't firing.
The 09 team was better in places, but Petersen inherited a better situation. I am somewhat optimistic, but Petersen's offenses have sucked for too long to simply ignore.
For a guy who thinks of himself as a football expert, I would expect more honest analysis Pup. I'm disappointed. -
Well, you can't blame them for not taking pride in 3 or 4 of these buffoonspuppylove_sugarsteel said:
Good stuff Billy, and well put. This is how dawg fans used to think. They had pride in their team, their head coach. Then boofs like J, Nacho, Race came along.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
Nobody knows what's going to happen. That's the fucking point. Instead of just giving up and being as negative as possible for all 8 months of the offseason, I'll choose to see what happens. Signs are pointing to something better than the usual 7 or 8 win season. If not, we know CP is just another Boise CC coach who feasted on the NM States of the world. I'm on record as saying he's at least a good coach (probably not elite like Kelly or Meyer). If he's not fine. I'm wrong occasionally.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Except he is wrong, unless you believe 4-5 > 4-5 > 5-4 > 5-4 > 5-4 > 5-4HuskyInAZ said:
You are not wrong.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
I'm not butt hurt.m I'm Puppy's brother, remember? Some criticism is warranted and Smith probably should have been fired, and the Sark excuse (used by tons on here, but not me) is flimsy. Youth was more legitimate. I agree, he's probably 72-30 in the Pac 12.TurdBuffer said:
Bill: You did not write Oregon State. No, you didn't. My eyes deceive me, right?Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
Oklahomo, Oregon two years in a row, virgin tech, tcu twice, georgia Oregon stTierbsHsotBoobs said:
92-12 proved that he could inherit the dominant program in the WAC and beat retards.puppylove_sugarsteel said:
Pete's #1 quality is as a sideline coach Turd. WTF, do you even watch college football? . 92-12 before he got to UW pretty much backs it up. I watched every notable game Pete coached at bsu. Simply a master in big games. Sometimes puppy just shakes his head at some of the shit that dribbles out your cunts out here (hi kim)TurdBuffer said:
True and accurate. Pac12 is way tougher, top to bottom, than the MW, where many of Pete's wins were in his pocket before the game started. Context matters for expectations.EwaDawg said:
Pete is good at developing talent. In game coaching? He can get better.dnc said:
I know you're being sarcasmic but everything you said before the final sentence is true.PurpleJ said:Yeah and we had a GREAT defense and only went 7-6 (4-5). The metrics are pointing up.
Pete sure did a hell of a job last year.
I don't understand all the hurt butts about CP. I'm a fan, and I believe we're watching him grow into a top-tier Pac12 coach. But he's not there yet so stop dumping 100% of the fault on "Sark's players" or "youth." Who brought us Smiff, huh? Maybe this is the year CP breaks through to the top of the league. Great. But he got caught with his pants down around his ankles several times in '14 and '15, because the Pac12 is way tougher to navigate week in and week out than the MW. Very seldom will there be cupcakes in Pac12 league like in the MW. And that's why CP was 92-12 and not 72-30, which is still fucking great and justifies hiring him.
Jesus Christ, are we really arguing the MW is equal in strength to the Pac12?
There are people here who are just entrenched in their own narratives and thinking from 2008 or they're just trying hard to fit and be funny (usually failing) in or not rock the boat. I'm done with that shit. Tell me I'm wrong.
And if the result is similar to 2011, they should hire a new coach. They won't, but they should.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
It's like 2011 all over again.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
Nobody knows what's going to happen. That's the fucking point. Instead of just giving up and being as negative as possible for all 8 months of the offseason, I'll choose to see what happens. Signs are pointing to something better than the usual 7 or 8 win season. If not, we know CP is just another Boise CC coach who feasted on the NM States of the world. I'm on record as saying he's at least a good coach (probably not elite like Kelly or Meyer). If he's not fine. I'm wrong occasionally.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Except he is wrong, unless you believe 4-5 > 4-5 > 5-4 > 5-4 > 5-4 > 5-4HuskyInAZ said:
You are not wrong.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
I'm not butt hurt.m I'm Puppy's brother, remember? Some criticism is warranted and Smith probably should have been fired, and the Sark excuse (used by tons on here, but not me) is flimsy. Youth was more legitimate. I agree, he's probably 72-30 in the Pac 12.TurdBuffer said:
Bill: You did not write Oregon State. No, you didn't. My eyes deceive me, right?Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
Oklahomo, Oregon two years in a row, virgin tech, tcu twice, georgia Oregon stTierbsHsotBoobs said:
92-12 proved that he could inherit the dominant program in the WAC and beat retards.puppylove_sugarsteel said:
Pete's #1 quality is as a sideline coach Turd. WTF, do you even watch college football? . 92-12 before he got to UW pretty much backs it up. I watched every notable game Pete coached at bsu. Simply a master in big games. Sometimes puppy just shakes his head at some of the shit that dribbles out your cunts out here (hi kim)TurdBuffer said:
True and accurate. Pac12 is way tougher, top to bottom, than the MW, where many of Pete's wins were in his pocket before the game started. Context matters for expectations.EwaDawg said:
Pete is good at developing talent. In game coaching? He can get better.dnc said:
I know you're being sarcasmic but everything you said before the final sentence is true.PurpleJ said:Yeah and we had a GREAT defense and only went 7-6 (4-5). The metrics are pointing up.
Pete sure did a hell of a job last year.
I don't understand all the hurt butts about CP. I'm a fan, and I believe we're watching him grow into a top-tier Pac12 coach. But he's not there yet so stop dumping 100% of the fault on "Sark's players" or "youth." Who brought us Smiff, huh? Maybe this is the year CP breaks through to the top of the league. Great. But he got caught with his pants down around his ankles several times in '14 and '15, because the Pac12 is way tougher to navigate week in and week out than the MW. Very seldom will there be cupcakes in Pac12 league like in the MW. And that's why CP was 92-12 and not 72-30, which is still fucking great and justifies hiring him.
Jesus Christ, are we really arguing the MW is equal in strength to the Pac12?
There are people here who are just entrenched in their own narratives and thinking from 2008 or they're just trying hard to fit and be funny (usually failing) in or not rock the boat. I'm done with that shit. Tell me I'm wrong. -
You'll never believe this, but Pup sucks at football analysis because he's just another Doog who hates facts and winners.RoadDawg55 said:
Talia Crichton and Nate Fellner started as true freshmen on the 09 team. Greg Christine and Nick Wood started games on the OL. Quinten Richardson and Adam Long started opposite Trufant at CB.puppylove_sugarsteel said:
Well Pete is a better coach obviously. Both took over shit teams. Sark inherited the better team, Pete did more with less.TurdBuffer said:
Sark won 5 in 2009. And CP won 8 his first year w/"Sark's guys." You wrote that CP's 8 win 2014 team was the same as Ty's 0-12 team. And now you're saying 5=8.puppylove_sugarsteel said:
How many games did Sark win with Ty's 0-12 team (basically same players)? Next topic?TurdBuffer said:
Puppy, puppy, puppy....That's just FS and you know it. Sark left the cupboard bare in spots, no doubt, but Ty had no D worth a shit, even with good players on the team, and couldn't hold a candle to all the D studs on CP's first, well-coached defense at UW.puppylove_sugarsteel said:
Uh Turd, those are the facts. This team was on par with ty's 0-12 team when Pete took over. Cyress was that bad. This team would have won 4 games last year with Sark and maybe 5-6 next year. Those are more facts.TurdBuffer said:
Bill: You did not write Oregon State. No, you didn't. My eyes deceive me, right?Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
Oklahomo, Oregon two years in a row, virgin tech, tcu twice, georgia Oregon stTierbsHsotBoobs said:
92-12 proved that he could inherit the dominant program in the WAC and beat retards.puppylove_sugarsteel said:
Pete's #1 quality is as a sideline coach Turd. WTF, do you even watch college football? . 92-12 before he got to UW pretty much backs it up. I watched every notable game Pete coached at bsu. Simply a master in big games. Sometimes puppy just shakes his head at some of the shit that dribbles out your cunts out here (hi kim)TurdBuffer said:
True and accurate. Pac12 is way tougher, top to bottom, than the MW, where many of Pete's wins were in his pocket before the game started. Context matters for expectations.EwaDawg said:
Pete is good at developing talent. In game coaching? He can get better.dnc said:
I know you're being sarcasmic but everything you said before the final sentence is true.PurpleJ said:Yeah and we had a GREAT defense and only went 7-6 (4-5). The metrics are pointing up.
Pete sure did a hell of a job last year.
I don't understand all the hurt butts about CP. I'm a fan, and I believe we're watching him grow into a top-tier Pac12 coach. But he's not there yet so stop dumping 100% of the fault on "Sark's players" or "youth." Who brought us Smiff, huh? Maybe this is the year CP breaks through to the top of the league. Great. But he got caught with his pants down around his ankles several times in '14 and '15, because the Pac12 is way tougher to navigate week in and week out than the MW. Very seldom will there be cupcakes in Pac12 league like in the MW. And that's why CP was 92-12 and not 72-30, which is still fucking great and justifies hiring him.
Jesus Christ, are we really arguing the MW is equal in strength to the Pac12?
I like and share your optimism, Pup. But you can't keep up this "Move along, nothing to see here" about the last 15 years. We all know the difference between hype and results. Well, most of us, anyway.
I think I know what you're trying to say, but your synapses just aren't firing.
The 09 team was better in places, but Petersen inherited a better situation. I am somewhat optimistic, but Petersen's offenses have sucked for too long to simply ignore.
For a guy who thinks of himself as a football expert, I would expect more honest analysis Pup. I'm disappointed. -
pretty simple toyd! Talk about exhausted...ho-lee-fuckallTurdBuffer said:Okay!! There we go. Christ! I'm fucking exhausted!!
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Lets look at the offense 55. We are arguing similar points on opposite sides of the ball. Thing is, sark had the clearly better offense and a serviceable defense. Pete had a serviceable defense (3 1st rounders, little else) and a fucking HORRIFIC offense left by Sark. Take a long look at both teams and check the fuck back. Worst husky offense ive ever seen. Yes, worse than Rainbow Ronnie's. (RoadDawg55 said:
Talia Crichton and Nate Fellner started as true freshmen on the 09 team. Greg Christine and Nick Wood started games on the OL. Quinten Richardson and Adam Long started opposite Trufant at CB.puppylove_sugarsteel said:
Well Pete is a better coach obviously. Both took over shit teams. Sark inherited the better team, Pete did more with less.TurdBuffer said:
Sark won 5 in 2009. And CP won 8 his first year w/"Sark's guys." You wrote that CP's 8 win 2014 team was the same as Ty's 0-12 team. And now you're saying 5=8.puppylove_sugarsteel said:
How many games did Sark win with Ty's 0-12 team (basically same players)? Next topic?TurdBuffer said:
Puppy, puppy, puppy....That's just FS and you know it. Sark left the cupboard bare in spots, no doubt, but Ty had no D worth a shit, even with good players on the team, and couldn't hold a candle to all the D studs on CP's first, well-coached defense at UW.puppylove_sugarsteel said:
Uh Turd, those are the facts. This team was on par with ty's 0-12 team when Pete took over. Cyress was that bad. This team would have won 4 games last year with Sark and maybe 5-6 next year. Those are more facts.TurdBuffer said:
Bill: You did not write Oregon State. No, you didn't. My eyes deceive me, right?Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
Oklahomo, Oregon two years in a row, virgin tech, tcu twice, georgia Oregon stTierbsHsotBoobs said:
92-12 proved that he could inherit the dominant program in the WAC and beat retards.puppylove_sugarsteel said:
Pete's #1 quality is as a sideline coach Turd. WTF, do you even watch college football? . 92-12 before he got to UW pretty much backs it up. I watched every notable game Pete coached at bsu. Simply a master in big games. Sometimes puppy just shakes his head at some of the shit that dribbles out your cunts out here (hi kim)TurdBuffer said:
True and accurate. Pac12 is way tougher, top to bottom, than the MW, where many of Pete's wins were in his pocket before the game started. Context matters for expectations.EwaDawg said:
Pete is good at developing talent. In game coaching? He can get better.dnc said:
I know you're being sarcasmic but everything you said before the final sentence is true.PurpleJ said:Yeah and we had a GREAT defense and only went 7-6 (4-5). The metrics are pointing up.
Pete sure did a hell of a job last year.
I don't understand all the hurt butts about CP. I'm a fan, and I believe we're watching him grow into a top-tier Pac12 coach. But he's not there yet so stop dumping 100% of the fault on "Sark's players" or "youth." Who brought us Smiff, huh? Maybe this is the year CP breaks through to the top of the league. Great. But he got caught with his pants down around his ankles several times in '14 and '15, because the Pac12 is way tougher to navigate week in and week out than the MW. Very seldom will there be cupcakes in Pac12 league like in the MW. And that's why CP was 92-12 and not 72-30, which is still fucking great and justifies hiring him.
Jesus Christ, are we really arguing the MW is equal in strength to the Pac12?
I like and share your optimism, Pup. But you can't keep up this "Move along, nothing to see here" about the last 15 years. We all know the difference between hype and results. Well, most of us, anyway.
I think I know what you're trying to say, but your synapses just aren't firing.
The 09 team was better in places, but Petersen inherited a better situation. I am somewhat optimistic, but Petersen's offenses have sucked for too long to simply ignore.
For a guy who thinks of himself as a football expert, I would expect more honest analysis Pup. I'm disappointed.
Locker did play that year, just got hurt. Rainbow could at least complete a forward pass, Cyress could not. -
Stop. Just stop.puppylove_sugarsteel said:
Lets look at the offense 55. We are arguing similar points on opposite sides of the ball. Thing is, sark had the clearly better offense and a serviceable defense. Pete had a serviceable defense (3 1st rounders, little else) and a fucking HORRIFIC offense left by Sark. Take a long look at both teams and check the fuck back. Worst husky offense ive ever seen. Yes, worse than Rainbow Ronnie's. (RoadDawg55 said:
Talia Crichton and Nate Fellner started as true freshmen on the 09 team. Greg Christine and Nick Wood started games on the OL. Quinten Richardson and Adam Long started opposite Trufant at CB.puppylove_sugarsteel said:
Well Pete is a better coach obviously. Both took over shit teams. Sark inherited the better team, Pete did more with less.TurdBuffer said:
Sark won 5 in 2009. And CP won 8 his first year w/"Sark's guys." You wrote that CP's 8 win 2014 team was the same as Ty's 0-12 team. And now you're saying 5=8.puppylove_sugarsteel said:
How many games did Sark win with Ty's 0-12 team (basically same players)? Next topic?TurdBuffer said:
Puppy, puppy, puppy....That's just FS and you know it. Sark left the cupboard bare in spots, no doubt, but Ty had no D worth a shit, even with good players on the team, and couldn't hold a candle to all the D studs on CP's first, well-coached defense at UW.puppylove_sugarsteel said:
Uh Turd, those are the facts. This team was on par with ty's 0-12 team when Pete took over. Cyress was that bad. This team would have won 4 games last year with Sark and maybe 5-6 next year. Those are more facts.TurdBuffer said:
Bill: You did not write Oregon State. No, you didn't. My eyes deceive me, right?Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
Oklahomo, Oregon two years in a row, virgin tech, tcu twice, georgia Oregon stTierbsHsotBoobs said:
92-12 proved that he could inherit the dominant program in the WAC and beat retards.puppylove_sugarsteel said:
Pete's #1 quality is as a sideline coach Turd. WTF, do you even watch college football? . 92-12 before he got to UW pretty much backs it up. I watched every notable game Pete coached at bsu. Simply a master in big games. Sometimes puppy just shakes his head at some of the shit that dribbles out your cunts out here (hi kim)TurdBuffer said:
True and accurate. Pac12 is way tougher, top to bottom, than the MW, where many of Pete's wins were in his pocket before the game started. Context matters for expectations.EwaDawg said:
Pete is good at developing talent. In game coaching? He can get better.dnc said:
I know you're being sarcasmic but everything you said before the final sentence is true.PurpleJ said:Yeah and we had a GREAT defense and only went 7-6 (4-5). The metrics are pointing up.
Pete sure did a hell of a job last year.
I don't understand all the hurt butts about CP. I'm a fan, and I believe we're watching him grow into a top-tier Pac12 coach. But he's not there yet so stop dumping 100% of the fault on "Sark's players" or "youth." Who brought us Smiff, huh? Maybe this is the year CP breaks through to the top of the league. Great. But he got caught with his pants down around his ankles several times in '14 and '15, because the Pac12 is way tougher to navigate week in and week out than the MW. Very seldom will there be cupcakes in Pac12 league like in the MW. And that's why CP was 92-12 and not 72-30, which is still fucking great and justifies hiring him.
Jesus Christ, are we really arguing the MW is equal in strength to the Pac12?
I like and share your optimism, Pup. But you can't keep up this "Move along, nothing to see here" about the last 15 years. We all know the difference between hype and results. Well, most of us, anyway.
I think I know what you're trying to say, but your synapses just aren't firing.
The 09 team was better in places, but Petersen inherited a better situation. I am somewhat optimistic, but Petersen's offenses have sucked for too long to simply ignore.
For a guy who thinks of himself as a football expert, I would expect more honest analysis Pup. I'm disappointed.
Locker did play that year, just got hurt. Rainbow could at least complete a forward pass, Cyress could not.
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Dig a little deeper. Cyler looked decent whenever he played under Sark. Under Petersen he was horrible. Late in the year, he looked worse than early on. He was still commonly confused. That could be accepted in the first few games, but in the Apple Cup and Bowl game?puppylove_sugarsteel said:
Lets look at the offense 55. We are arguing similar points on opposite sides of the ball. Thing is, sark had the clearly better offense and a serviceable defense. Pete had a serviceable defense (3 1st rounders, little else) and a fucking HORRIFIC offense left by Sark. Take a long look at both teams and check the fuck back. Worst husky offense ive ever seen. Yes, worse than Rainbow Ronnie's. (RoadDawg55 said:
Talia Crichton and Nate Fellner started as true freshmen on the 09 team. Greg Christine and Nick Wood started games on the OL. Quinten Richardson and Adam Long started opposite Trufant at CB.puppylove_sugarsteel said:
Well Pete is a better coach obviously. Both took over shit teams. Sark inherited the better team, Pete did more with less.TurdBuffer said:
Sark won 5 in 2009. And CP won 8 his first year w/"Sark's guys." You wrote that CP's 8 win 2014 team was the same as Ty's 0-12 team. And now you're saying 5=8.puppylove_sugarsteel said:
How many games did Sark win with Ty's 0-12 team (basically same players)? Next topic?TurdBuffer said:
Puppy, puppy, puppy....That's just FS and you know it. Sark left the cupboard bare in spots, no doubt, but Ty had no D worth a shit, even with good players on the team, and couldn't hold a candle to all the D studs on CP's first, well-coached defense at UW.puppylove_sugarsteel said:
Uh Turd, those are the facts. This team was on par with ty's 0-12 team when Pete took over. Cyress was that bad. This team would have won 4 games last year with Sark and maybe 5-6 next year. Those are more facts.TurdBuffer said:
Bill: You did not write Oregon State. No, you didn't. My eyes deceive me, right?Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
Oklahomo, Oregon two years in a row, virgin tech, tcu twice, georgia Oregon stTierbsHsotBoobs said:
92-12 proved that he could inherit the dominant program in the WAC and beat retards.puppylove_sugarsteel said:
Pete's #1 quality is as a sideline coach Turd. WTF, do you even watch college football? . 92-12 before he got to UW pretty much backs it up. I watched every notable game Pete coached at bsu. Simply a master in big games. Sometimes puppy just shakes his head at some of the shit that dribbles out your cunts out here (hi kim)TurdBuffer said:
True and accurate. Pac12 is way tougher, top to bottom, than the MW, where many of Pete's wins were in his pocket before the game started. Context matters for expectations.EwaDawg said:
Pete is good at developing talent. In game coaching? He can get better.dnc said:
I know you're being sarcasmic but everything you said before the final sentence is true.PurpleJ said:Yeah and we had a GREAT defense and only went 7-6 (4-5). The metrics are pointing up.
Pete sure did a hell of a job last year.
I don't understand all the hurt butts about CP. I'm a fan, and I believe we're watching him grow into a top-tier Pac12 coach. But he's not there yet so stop dumping 100% of the fault on "Sark's players" or "youth." Who brought us Smiff, huh? Maybe this is the year CP breaks through to the top of the league. Great. But he got caught with his pants down around his ankles several times in '14 and '15, because the Pac12 is way tougher to navigate week in and week out than the MW. Very seldom will there be cupcakes in Pac12 league like in the MW. And that's why CP was 92-12 and not 72-30, which is still fucking great and justifies hiring him.
Jesus Christ, are we really arguing the MW is equal in strength to the Pac12?
I like and share your optimism, Pup. But you can't keep up this "Move along, nothing to see here" about the last 15 years. We all know the difference between hype and results. Well, most of us, anyway.
I think I know what you're trying to say, but your synapses just aren't firing.
The 09 team was better in places, but Petersen inherited a better situation. I am somewhat optimistic, but Petersen's offenses have sucked for too long to simply ignore.
For a guy who thinks of himself as a football expert, I would expect more honest analysis Pup. I'm disappointed.
Locker did play that year, just got hurt. Rainbow could at least complete a forward pass, Cyress could not.
Look beyond Miles' arm strength. Petersen has a shitty offensive system (or lack of one). The players not knowing what they are doing falls squarely on the coach. John Ross not even being used when he was the only threat was fucking retarded. The offense has been anything but organized and disciplined. -
Get the fuck out of here you cunt. Nobody gives a shit what some faggot Cooger thinks, even if you're right - and your track record indicates you aren't right about anything.salemcoog said:
CP is just another Boise CC coach who feasted on the NM St's of the world. His record already spells that out. But He owns the Cougs, so you have that goin for ya.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
Nobody knows what's going to happen. That's the fucking point. Instead of just giving up and being as negative as possible for all 8 months of the offseason, I'll choose to see what happens. Signs are pointing to something better than the usual 7 or 8 win season. If not, we know CP is just another Boise CC coach who feasted on the NM States of the world. I'm on record as saying he's at least a good coach (probably not elite like Kelly or Meyer). If he's not fine. I'm wrong occasionally.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Except he is wrong, unless you believe 4-5 > 4-5 > 5-4 > 5-4 > 5-4 > 5-4HuskyInAZ said:
You are not wrong.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
I'm not butt hurt.m I'm Puppy's brother, remember? Some criticism is warranted and Smith probably should have been fired, and the Sark excuse (used by tons on here, but not me) is flimsy. Youth was more legitimate. I agree, he's probably 72-30 in the Pac 12.TurdBuffer said:
Bill: You did not write Oregon State. No, you didn't. My eyes deceive me, right?Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
Oklahomo, Oregon two years in a row, virgin tech, tcu twice, georgia Oregon stTierbsHsotBoobs said:
92-12 proved that he could inherit the dominant program in the WAC and beat retards.puppylove_sugarsteel said:
Pete's #1 quality is as a sideline coach Turd. WTF, do you even watch college football? . 92-12 before he got to UW pretty much backs it up. I watched every notable game Pete coached at bsu. Simply a master in big games. Sometimes puppy just shakes his head at some of the shit that dribbles out your cunts out here (hi kim)TurdBuffer said:
True and accurate. Pac12 is way tougher, top to bottom, than the MW, where many of Pete's wins were in his pocket before the game started. Context matters for expectations.EwaDawg said:
Pete is good at developing talent. In game coaching? He can get better.dnc said:
I know you're being sarcasmic but everything you said before the final sentence is true.PurpleJ said:Yeah and we had a GREAT defense and only went 7-6 (4-5). The metrics are pointing up.
Pete sure did a hell of a job last year.
I don't understand all the hurt butts about CP. I'm a fan, and I believe we're watching him grow into a top-tier Pac12 coach. But he's not there yet so stop dumping 100% of the fault on "Sark's players" or "youth." Who brought us Smiff, huh? Maybe this is the year CP breaks through to the top of the league. Great. But he got caught with his pants down around his ankles several times in '14 and '15, because the Pac12 is way tougher to navigate week in and week out than the MW. Very seldom will there be cupcakes in Pac12 league like in the MW. And that's why CP was 92-12 and not 72-30, which is still fucking great and justifies hiring him.
Jesus Christ, are we really arguing the MW is equal in strength to the Pac12?
There are people here who are just entrenched in their own narratives and thinking from 2008 or they're just trying hard to fit and be funny (usually failing) in or not rock the boat. I'm done with that shit. Tell me I'm wrong.
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WTF? Revisionist history much.TurdBuffer said:
Correct. My bad. Although he'd have won the SF Giants Bowl, or whatever it was. Was it the "Kraft Fight Hunger" Bowl? Christ. I think it was.Gladstone said:
Sark never won 9 games.TurdBuffer said:@Ice_Holmvik: I get it's a process. But we're still not seeing the big, important wins. UW's been "on the upswing" or "building" or "doing it the right way" ever since 2008. It's now 2016. Sark had his best, 9 win season before he left
HTH.
Remember the Vegas bowl vs Coach Pete's BSU? How did that work out?
The script says Sark fucks up the Mormon BYU homecoming bowl game. Tui took clearly over leadership Benched Peters, and then ran the shit out of the ball...which we all know Sark would not have done on a "gameday" let alone a bowl game.
Christ.
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Miles was horrible. Absolutely horrific. Worst qb to ever start at Washington for a significant amount of games. The next guy was cyler miles ahead. Id take most starters at the d-2 level over him. He was that bad. Now factor in the receivers he had to throw to, the worst husky o-line to ever take the field for
UW, and DWash (one of the worst RB's to ever start at Washington, his vision was nonexistent) and puppy's analysis is dead-on in terms if which HC took over the more pathetic team. Sark head experienced and NFL-quality weapons at every level, Pete had NOT FUCKING ONE nfl-quality player on offense.
Oh he had 4 on defense, that will win you 10 games. It was playoff contender Oregon vs Shelton, Peters, Shaq and kikahamora. 22 on 4!!!! Get it baabs? Turd? J? That was the reality, the shit hand Pete was dealt by Sark. Spin it anyway you want (which you have tried 100 times and to no avail). Pete was handed a fucking mess. He's now rebuilding. Give him time.
Saban would have won 7 last year, understand? Cant polish a turd there buffer. He had x amount of players. Most were junk, few were pac12 ready. Most of the TALENT were his guys, True freshmen. Takes time for HIS guys (the ones with talent) to mature. Takes 4-5 years to build enough depth with HIS guys (the ones with pac12 talent) to beat other pac12 teams with already talent and depth. Get it now?
The miracle is His guys might be ready in year 3. Thats a testament to his coaching, not a given as you put it. chuck strong has 5-star talent and is behind Petersen in year 3, with 3-4-star talent. Get it? Pete is right on track. Too late to get on board though. The puppywagon has left the station with Billy, Ice, ballsack, splitter and a few others...1st stop, husky stadium for a meeting with Rutgers. You cant climb aboard now, your chance has passed. Ill enjoy pissing on you out the window when you try and get on board. -
Even @Tequilla thinks you are struggling badly.puppylove_sugarsteel said:Miles was horrible. Absolutely horrific. Worst qb to ever start at Washington for a significant amount of games. The next guy was cyler miles ahead. Id take most starters at the d-2 level over him. He was that bad. Now factor in the receivers he had to throw to, the worst husky o-line to ever take the field for
UW, and DWash (one of the worst RB's to ever start at Washington, his vision was nonexistent) and puppy's analysis is dead-on in terms if which HC took over the more pathetic team. Sark head experienced and NFL-quality weapons at every level, Pete had NOT FUCKING ONE nfl-quality player on offense.
Oh he had 4 on defense, that will win you 10 games. It was playoff contender Oregon vs Shelton, Peters, Shaq and kikahamora. 22 on 4!!!! Get it baabs? Turd? J? That was the reality, the shit hand Pete was dealt by Sark. Spin it anyway you want (which you have tried 100 times and to no avail). Pete was handed a fucking mess. He's now rebuilding. Give him time.
Saban would have won 7 last year, understand? Cant polish a turd there buffer. He had x amount of players. Most were junk, few were pac12 ready. Most of the TALENT were his guys, True freshmen. Takes time for HIS guys (the ones with talent) to mature. Takes 4-5 years to build enough depth with HIS guys (the ones with pac12 talent) to beat other pac12 teams with already talent and depth. Get it now?
The miracle is His guys might be ready in year 3. Thats a testament to his coaching, not a given as you put it. chuck strong has 5-star talent and is behind Petersen in year 3, with 3-4-star talent. Get it? Pete is right on track. Too late to get on board though. The puppywagon has left the station with Billy, Ice, ballsack, splitter and a few others...1st stop, husky stadium for a meeting with Rutgers. You cant climb aboard now, your chance has passed. Ill enjoy pissing on you out the window when you try and get on board. -
puppylove_sugarsteel said:
Miles was horrible. Absolutely horrific. Worst qb to ever start at Washington for a significant amount of games. The next guy was cyler miles ahead. Id take most starters at the d-2 level over him. He was that bad. Now factor in the receivers he had to throw to, the worst husky o-line to ever take the field for
UW, and DWash (one of the worst RB's to ever start at Washington, his vision was nonexistent) and puppy's analysis is dead-on in terms if which HC took over the more pathetic team. Sark head experienced and NFL-quality weapons at every level, Pete had NOT FUCKING ONE nfl-quality player on offense.
Oh he had 4 on defense, that will win you 10 games. It was playoff contender Oregon vs Shelton, Peters, Shaq and kikahamora. 22 on 4!!!! Get it baabs? Turd? J? That was the reality, the shit hand Pete was dealt by Sark. Spin it anyway you want (which you have tried 100 times and to no avail). Pete was handed a fucking mess. He's now rebuilding. Give him time.
Saban would have won 7 last year, understand? Cant polish a turd there buffer. He had x amount of players. Most were junk, few were pac12 ready. Most of the TALENT were his guys, True freshmen. Takes time for HIS guys (the ones with talent) to mature. Takes 4-5 years to build enough depth with HIS guys (the ones with pac12 talent) to beat other pac12 teams with already talent and depth. Get it now?
The miracle is His guys might be ready in year 3. Thats a testament to his coaching, not a given as you put it. chuck strong has 5-star talent and is behind Petersen in year 3, with 3-4-star talent. Get it? Pete is right on track. Too late to get on board though. The puppywagon has left the station with Billy, Ice, ballsack, splitter and a few others...1st stop, husky stadium for a meeting with Rutgers. You cant climb aboard now, your chance has passed. Ill enjoy pissing on you out the window when you try and get on board.
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You trying to gain favor by picking on the one guy this board dislikes more than you? Shameful!TierbsHsotBoobs said:
