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Why does Jordan get a pass for '95?
Doogles
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I'm hungover as shit at the cliffhouse chugging bloody Mary's when it occurs to me, why does MJ get a pass for losing to the magic in 95?
The legend goes he won 3, retired, came back and won 3 more thus making him invincible in his prime. Reality is he came back for the final 17 games of the 95 season, averaged 30 in the eastern conference finals but lost to baby Shaq and penny.
LeBron gets shit for his finals record vs. MJ 6-0, but MJ failed to get there in his prime.
Same thing for Montana 4-0> Brady 4-2 fs.
The legend goes he won 3, retired, came back and won 3 more thus making him invincible in his prime. Reality is he came back for the final 17 games of the 95 season, averaged 30 in the eastern conference finals but lost to baby Shaq and penny.
LeBron gets shit for his finals record vs. MJ 6-0, but MJ failed to get there in his prime.
Same thing for Montana 4-0> Brady 4-2 fs.
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6-1 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2-4.
I agree that getting there and losing >>>>>>> not getting there. But Jordan got there 6 times out of 7, and he always Finish!(ed) when he did.
And while LeBron making it five times straight is impressive, winning the modern Eastern conference is not exactly winning the East when Jordan was there. Those Piston teams >>>>>>>> any team LeBron has faced in his career, and that Magic team was better than any of the dreck LeBron's beaten out the last few years.
The pro LeBron argument is that the two Cavs team he took to the Finals were far worse than any team Jordan or Kobe ever took there. The 95 Magic don't do anything to help LeBron's case, IMO.
The Pistons plungering da Bulls all those years is greater evidence of MJ not being unbeatable, IMO.
All that said, once he broke through, he was a fucking assassin.
From a roster standpoint the team might have been one player away. For the first 3 championships, the Bulls had Horace Grant. For the last 3 they had Dennis Rodman. Jordan's legend would have been that much greater if he won that year, but there really isn't anything to criticize about it. He won 6 fucking championships and was the best player in the league for all 6.
LeBron is great, but he waltzes through a dreckfest conference every year until the finals. Race will argue that Jordan's teams were so much better, but they also played better competition. They had to get through Detroit and the early 90's Knicks were damn good. The 2nd run was easier. The 2011-12 Celtics were the only team from the East worth a damn the past five years LBJ has made the finals.
Same folks claim the pac 12 doesn't suck even though oregon wins it rather easily
Jordan beat a shitty West every year other than Phoenix
Why not just let the results stand? Jordan doesn't get blamed for 95 because he was playing baseball.
Pippen claiming he was a good as Lebron is what deserves shit
Of course, I think he could have won it had he played all of 95. Wish we could have seen it though.
A 4 year old in 1991 is telling me about Jordan