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If Not For Sanctuary Cities & Obama Immigration Policies Kate Steinle Would Be Alive Today

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“Indeed, if not for sanctuary cities and the Obama administration’s continued destruction in other areas of immigration enforcement, Kate and others surely would be alive today,” Sessions said on the Senate floor. “Her death could have been prevented. But the extreme open borders ideology that rejects even the deportation of criminals — that is, people who commit other crimes than the crime of entering the country illegally — has led to her death, as it has led to the death of many others.”
breitbart.com/big-government/2015/07/08/sessions-if-not-for-sanctuary-cities-and-obama-admin-immigration-policies-kate-steinle-would-be-alive-today/
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  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Fuck you believe anything.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,870 Founders Club
    dnc said:

    She would also still be alive if she hadn't been giving $5 blow jobs to Mexicans on a San Francisco pier.

    5 star victim blaming effort right there
    Gotta protect the Queen

    #RainbowPresident
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,459 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    Fuck you believe anything.

    Pot meet Kettle.

    GFY
  • Southerndawg
    Southerndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,346 Founders Club
    pawz said:

    2001400ex said:

    Fuck you believe anything.

    Pot meet Kettle.

    GFY
    It's not his fault. Honda had a root canal on an upper incisor that went wrong and turned into a lobotomy.

    Seriously though, how can anyone defend this, regardless of how libtarded they are?
  • Southerndawg
    Southerndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,346 Founders Club
    Fenwick said:

    The southern border is as bad as the Cal Bears defensive line.


    The Cal Bears Defensive Line looks like the Berlin Wall/Steel Curtain compared to the southern border.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    pawz said:

    2001400ex said:

    Fuck you believe anything.

    Pot meet Kettle.

    GFY
    It's not his fault. Honda had a root canal on an upper incisor that went wrong and turned into a lobotomy.

    Seriously though, how can anyone defend this, regardless of how libtarded they are?
    I never defended it. I'm calling death stupid for reading a news source that blames every liberal in America for this issue. When really it's just the fucktardedness of the local liberals (assuming it's liberals, no clue on the local politics there other than its a more liberal city).
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,459 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    pawz said:

    2001400ex said:

    Fuck you believe anything.

    Pot meet Kettle.

    GFY
    It's not his fault. Honda had a root canal on an upper incisor that went wrong and turned into a lobotomy.

    Seriously though, how can anyone defend this, regardless of how libtarded they are?
    I never defended it. I'm calling death stupid for reading a news source that blames every liberal in America for this issue. When really it's just the fucktardedness of the local liberals (assuming it's liberals, no clue on the local politics there other than its a more liberal city).
    Liberalism is a mental disorder.

    Thanks for proving it. All. Night.
  • BallSacked
    BallSacked Member Posts: 3,279
    edited July 2015
    Fantastic set of tits on Kate. Fucking shame...always hate to see a good pair go.
  • CuntWaffle
    CuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,499
    Any one of them could be the next Timothy McVeigh
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,870 Founders Club

    Any one of them could be the next Timothy McVeigh
    And the Crusades and shit
  • Southerndawg
    Southerndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,346 Founders Club

    Any one of them could be the next Timothy McVeigh
    And the Crusades and shit
    Muslim's gonna Muslim.
  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208

    Any one of them could be the next Timothy McVeigh
    And the Crusades and shit
    Muslim's gonna Muslim.
    When Muhammad shakes off his hangover, pours a bowl of cornflakes and reads this... you're fucked!
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,063
    California shipped a bunch of homeless/transient ex cons up to Washington via Greyhound a few years back.

    Karma is a bitch, ain't it?

  • BallSacked
    BallSacked Member Posts: 3,279
    edited July 2015

    California shipped a bunch of homeless/transient ex cons up to Washington via Greyhound a few years back.

    Karma is a bitch, ain't it?

    We got sent Race Bannon from WA, you get a few bus loads of Criminals.

    Fair trade.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,870 Founders Club
    Castro sent us Tony Montana
  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208

    Castro sent us Tony Montana

    But as I recall, he didn't get along well with his neighbors and they turned on him. No warning... Just GONE!
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    pawz said:

    2001400ex said:

    pawz said:

    2001400ex said:

    Fuck you believe anything.

    Pot meet Kettle.

    GFY
    It's not his fault. Honda had a root canal on an upper incisor that went wrong and turned into a lobotomy.

    Seriously though, how can anyone defend this, regardless of how libtarded they are?
    I never defended it. I'm calling death stupid for reading a news source that blames every liberal in America for this issue. When really it's just the fucktardedness of the local liberals (assuming it's liberals, no clue on the local politics there other than its a more liberal city).
    Liberalism is a mental disorder.

    Thanks for proving it. All. Night.
    The sad thing is you are not trolling.
  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    The plural of anecdote is not data. The singular of anecdote is certainly not data.

    To be frank, I think we need a better immigration policy - but "keep the beaners out" doesn't work and won't be made to work as so many industries rely on cheap illegal immigrant labor.

    US policy toward Mexico should have an emphasis on helping that country achieve first-world status ASAP. The more prosperous Mexico is, the more stable and safer our border will be, and we will have fewer undocumented immigrants.

    Undocumented immigrants already here (with clean records, which is most of them) should be given some pathway to legalization and possible naturalization.

    Something needs to be done about the spiraling drug violence in Mexico and Central America, which has created a no-shit humanitarian crisis.
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,559
    AZDuck said:

    The plural of anecdote is not data. The singular of anecdote is certainly not data.

    To be frank, I think we need a better immigration policy - but "keep the beaners out" doesn't work and won't be made to work as so many industries rely on cheap illegal immigrant labor.

    US policy toward Mexico should have an emphasis on helping that country achieve first-world status ASAP. The more prosperous Mexico is, the more stable and safer our border will be, and we will have fewer undocumented immigrants.

    Undocumented immigrants already here (with clean records, which is most of them) should be given some pathway to legalization and possible naturalization.

    Something needs to be done about the spiraling drug violence in Mexico and Central America, which has created a no-shit humanitarian crisis.

    So make the stance that "no worries, if you sneak here and avoid deportation long enough, you'll be citizens." Yeah, that'll show them.
  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    edited July 2015
    Devil's in the details. There's that whole "pathway" thing. Which probably involves staying employed, paying taxes, learning English, etc. As much of a commie socialist liberal as I am, I'm not okay with the whole "Aztlan" thing.

    Also, policy needs to approach the problem from all three angles to work. Plenty of Mexicans would probably like to go home if they could have decent prospects there.
  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381

    AZDuck said:

    The plural of anecdote is not data. The singular of anecdote is certainly not data.

    To be frank, I think we need a better immigration policy - but "keep the beaners out" doesn't work and won't be made to work as so many industries rely on cheap illegal immigrant labor.

    US policy toward Mexico should have an emphasis on helping that country achieve first-world status ASAP. The more prosperous Mexico is, the more stable and safer our border will be, and we will have fewer undocumented immigrants.

    Undocumented immigrants already here (with clean records, which is most of them) should be given some pathway to legalization and possible naturalization.

    Something needs to be done about the spiraling drug violence in Mexico and Central America, which has created a no-shit humanitarian crisis.

    We already have a federal government that has proven zero ability to balance a budget. How in the hell are we to entrust this same federal government to lift up an additional countries entire economic system, without shit-canning our own?
    We've done it in the past. It's only the past few years that the US government has really jumped off the rails. It's a problem, I agree.
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,559
    edited July 2015
    AZDuck said:

    AZDuck said:

    The plural of anecdote is not data. The singular of anecdote is certainly not data.

    To be frank, I think we need a better immigration policy - but "keep the beaners out" doesn't work and won't be made to work as so many industries rely on cheap illegal immigrant labor.

    US policy toward Mexico should have an emphasis on helping that country achieve first-world status ASAP. The more prosperous Mexico is, the more stable and safer our border will be, and we will have fewer undocumented immigrants.

    Undocumented immigrants already here (with clean records, which is most of them) should be given some pathway to legalization and possible naturalization.

    Something needs to be done about the spiraling drug violence in Mexico and Central America, which has created a no-shit humanitarian crisis.

    We already have a federal government that has proven zero ability to balance a budget. How in the hell are we to entrust this same federal government to lift up an additional countries entire economic system, without shit-canning our own?
    We've done it in the past. It's only the past few years that the US government has really jumped off the rails. It's a problem, I agree.
    The biggest issue is what's next? Keep in mind many immigrants aren't just from Mexico. Mexico is just a gateway to the US. Many of these immigrants are from guatemala, el salvador, nicaragua, honduras, costa rica, belize, colombia, venezuela, ecuador, etc.

    Great, we fix Mexico, then there's 20 some odd additonal countries south more messed up than them. Then they're government can say "Hey, since the US fixed Mexico, let's help send more people up North and the US can then help us out?"

    In short, Mexico isn't even 50% of the problem.
  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    If, Allah be praised, we were to fix Mexico, how many folks from Central America would press onto California, if they were in a place with some opportunities and the language and culture were not nearly so foreign?

    As long as there are dirtbag countries there will be immigration problems. Witness folks from Africa drowning in the Mediterranean to get to Italy and Greece, which are relative economic basket cases.

    But the best solution to mass immigration to to either (a) let them in, which is how we populated America with Italians, Russians and Germans then fleeing economic decay and oppression or (b) help the source country to not be such a shithole, because most people will put up with quite a bit before picking up and moving to another country, particularly if that move is "illegal."
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,559
    edited July 2015
    AZDuck said:

    If, Allah be praised, we were to fix Mexico, how many folks from Central America would press onto California, if they were in a place with some opportunities and the language and culture were not nearly so foreign?

    As long as there are dirtbag countries there will be immigration problems. Witness folks from Africa drowning in the Mediterranean to get to Italy and Greece, which are relative economic basket cases.

    But the best solution to mass immigration to to either (a) let them in, which is how we populated America with Italians, Russians and Germans then fleeing economic decay and oppression or (b) help the source country to not be such a shithole, because most people will put up with quite a bit before picking up and moving to another country, particularly if that move is "illegal."

    People from Central America will still flood the US southern border even if Mexico is "fixed".

    Reasons:

    1) The US will still be a better option, and people won't want to settle for Mexico
    2) Mexico being newly fixed, would "need more time" (lol) to get established, and during this time of volatility, a wave of immigrants from Central America could throw the economy back into shambles, thus recreating the original problem.

    Your entire argument is based on the best solution to mass immigration. Your flaw is, what says mass immigration at this point in our country's existance is a good thing?

    I understand that this country was founded on immigrants from Europe, however, things have changed in the last 250-300 years. It may no longer be sustainable to run this country under that same premise.
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,459 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    pawz said:

    2001400ex said:

    pawz said:

    2001400ex said:

    Fuck you believe anything.

    Pot meet Kettle.

    GFY
    It's not his fault. Honda had a root canal on an upper incisor that went wrong and turned into a lobotomy.

    Seriously though, how can anyone defend this, regardless of how libtarded they are?
    I never defended it. I'm calling death stupid for reading a news source that blames every liberal in America for this issue. When really it's just the fucktardedness of the local liberals (assuming it's liberals, no clue on the local politics there other than its a more liberal city).
    Liberalism is a mental disorder.

    Thanks for proving it. All. Night.
    The sad thing is you are not trolling.
    Abundance.