TequillaFS Prediction Time - Mariners

dhdawg

RoadDawg55 said:

The bullpen will regress. Same with the starting pitching. The hitting will suck like normal. This is very possibly 09 all over again. A decent season before reverting back to being the Mariners. The Mariners will be the third or fourth best team in the division.

Sort of agree. But you cannot compare this team to 2009 who had a -52 run differential and was constituted of pretty much all veterans.
They need to go out and get hitting or else they'll regress back to .500 or perhaps slightly below that

dhdawg

RoadDawg55 said:

I had no idea who Aoki was, so I looked him up. 1 HR, that's exactly what the Mariners need. That .280 average probably becomes .260 in Seattle because that's what typically happens. I see some haven't learned from Chone Figgins.

So they aren't supposed to sign HR hitters because some haven't learned from jack cust, Corey hart, etc. but they aren't supposed to sign high OBP guys (who gives a flying fuck about batting average) because some fans haven't learned from chone figgins. They also aren't supposed to sign pitchers either because clearly no one has learned from Carlos Silva.
I guess they should sign nobody.
Just continue to have a black hole at leadoff

dnc

RoadDawg55 said:

The bullpen will regress. Same with the starting pitching. The hitting will suck like normal. This is very possibly 09 all over again. A decent season before reverting back to being the Mariners. The Mariners will be the third or fourth best team in the division.

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RoadDawg55

dhdawg said:

RoadDawg55 said:

I had no idea who Aoki was, so I looked him up. 1 HR, that's exactly what the Mariners need. That .280 average probably becomes .260 in Seattle because that's what typically happens. I see some haven't learned from Chone Figgins.

So they aren't supposed to sign HR hitters because some haven't learned from jack cust, Corey hart, etc. but they aren't supposed to sign high OBP guys (who gives a flying fuck about batting average) because some fans haven't learned from chone figgins. They also aren't supposed to sign pitchers either because clearly no one has learned from Carlos Silva.
I guess they should sign nobody.
Just continue to have a black hole at leadoff

Aoki doesn't even have that high of an OBP. He walked 43 times. 1.0 WAR last year. He isn't an OBP machine. A non power hitting OF is the last thing the Mariners need. They need a thumper or GTFO. Austin Jackson has been a better player in his career.

Saunders and Ackley could both turn out to be decent. Ackley had a stretch where he looked like the player he was supposed to be coming out of college. Get a right handed corner outfielder to platoon with Saunders and Ackley. Denorfio sucks.

I like Tequilla's idea. Try and trade for Goldschmidt, Votto, or any other great hitter if possible. Signing either Pablo Sandoval, Victor Martinez, Nelson Cruz, or the Yasmani Thomas (Cuban) would also be good. I would try to hang onto Peterson though. The offense needs a legit middle of the order hitter to go with Cano and Seager.

dhdawg

Ackley has had stretches before. He has yet to put it together for any significant stretch of time. Austin Jackson was horrible, they need an OFer. Votto's and goldschmidt's are not available in trade anymore. Evan Gattis may be an interesting trade option as well.
.350 obp nowadays is pretty good btw

Tequilla

I'd tell anybody looking to trade with us that Peterson is off the table ... UNLESS you were talking about a guy like Goldschmidt, Stanton, etc.

I generally agree that big time players aren't often available in trade, but at the same time, there's always a line where the value offered is so much that somebody can't say no.

Personally, the reason I'd throw the farm at Goldschmidt has as much to do with how good he is combined with the hole that he fills in the lineup (RH 4 hitter with power in any park), but he's got a very favorable contract long-term that matches up with Mariners management thinking.

I'm not saying that LaRussa and Dave Stewart would say yes to this deal, but at the same time, I don't know that they'd say no:

Walker + Peterson + Farqhuar/Williamson (possibly solves their need at closer) + Jackson + young OF prospect in A ball (we have a number down there that could be worth a look) for Goldschmidt.

I'd offer the same trade type for Stanton and see if I could get anything for him. If not, I'd see if I could pull off a lesser deal with the Marlins for either Yelich or Ozuna - both very young players showing a huge amount of upside.