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California Bill Banning Football for Kids Under 12 Passes Committee

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  • Sandra6Sandra6 Member Posts: 150
    edited January 11

    For real though, football is quickly becoming a sport for the poors. Unless they're destined to be a QB or kicker, you're signing your kid up for early onset CTE with the end goal of surviving for a few years in the NFL and getting a paycheck that's only guaranteed week to week.

    Why do that when the Saudis and LA Dodgers are throwing around 9 figure guaranteed deals?

    @GreenRiverGatorz what is the data on CTE for kids that only played through HS or College? Honest and not loaded question. I'm not well versed in this subject.

    Seems like if HS Football alone cause CTE, there would be a lot more CTE out there. And nowadays, I would think the equipment and protocols are much better.
    Who knows how much is out there since diagnosis is post-mortem. This study shows a stark increase in risk with players in the NFL versus college and high school. There's a lot of high level math and statistics jargon in there, so someone smarter than me will have to conclude whether or not this study touches on prevalence of high school players vs gen pop.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9989358/#:~:text=We therefore estimated that high,, respectively (Table 3).

    I have a really hard time imagining that boys under 12 are strong enough to give each other CTE.

    Something tells me that football gets more and more dangerous as you get to higher levels of play. Maybe there’s occasional CTE in high school football. But the NFL, where you’re playing against not just grown men, but the very strongest grown men in America-that’s really where CTE explodes.

    Is there seriously even one documented case of CTE resulting from the puny hits somebody got in Pop Warner at age 11 or younger?
  • CFetters_Nacho_LoverCFetters_Nacho_Lover Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,361 Founders Club

    Tug alert @DerekJohnson. Get this shit out of our face. It was clear from the first post. It went from a committee vote about youth football to California feminizing men. Are you fucking kidding me? Do we realize how stupid these people are or am I on an island of retard? Fuck me, man. I'm depressed enough as is during these days of grieving.

    Google "why does California ban everything" and you will see over a decade of articles about California banning everything from candy to cars to guns to youth football.

    I've bought many products with a warning on them that says:

    "California thinks there might be a 0.001% chance this product causes a 0.00001% increased risk of cancer if exposed to it frequently, so we want this warning label on here because we're a bunch of pussies"

    That's just the tip of the iceberg. Not everyone in California is a pussy, but they have more per capital than any other state.
    All those California warnings also increase costs as it gets passed on to the consumers.
  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 15,789 Swaye's Wigwam
    Ironically Rugby is growing in popularity down here. Fuck the pads for under 12 anyways. They shouldn't even be wearing shoes until that age imo.

    Can't wait for the unintended consequences of smear the queer returning to California.
  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 26,950
    I started pop warner in 6th grade which is what 11 or 12? Do people even play before that? It’s gotta be like kid soccer where they just all run around in a mob
  • DerekJohnsonDerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 63,506 Founders Club
    edited January 23
    Sandra6 said:

    For real though, football is quickly becoming a sport for the poors. Unless they're destined to be a QB or kicker, you're signing your kid up for early onset CTE with the end goal of surviving for a few years in the NFL and getting a paycheck that's only guaranteed week to week.

    Why do that when the Saudis and LA Dodgers are throwing around 9 figure guaranteed deals?

    @GreenRiverGatorz what is the data on CTE for kids that only played through HS or College? Honest and not loaded question. I'm not well versed in this subject.

    Seems like if HS Football alone cause CTE, there would be a lot more CTE out there. And nowadays, I would think the equipment and protocols are much better.
    Who knows how much is out there since diagnosis is post-mortem. This study shows a stark increase in risk with players in the NFL versus college and high school. There's a lot of high level math and statistics jargon in there, so someone smarter than me will have to conclude whether or not this study touches on prevalence of high school players vs gen pop.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9989358/#:~:text=We therefore estimated that high,, respectively (Table 3).

    I have a really hard time imagining that boys under 12 are strong enough to give each other CTE.

    Something tells me that football gets more and more dangerous as you get to higher levels of play. Maybe there’s occasional CTE in high school football. But the NFL, where you’re playing against not just grown men, but the very strongest grown men in America-that’s really where CTE explodes.

    Is there seriously even one documented case of CTE resulting from the puny hits somebody got in Pop Warner at age 11 or younger?
    As someone who began playing tackle football in the 2nd grade, I agree with your take here
  • BleachedAnusDawgBleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 11,540
    Isn't Newsom going to veto this of it passes? Pretty sure I read that it's dead. For now.
  • Fire_Marshall_BillFire_Marshall_Bill Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,900 Founders Club

    Postal91 said:

    They let kids drug up on gender shit.... But cannot play football. California.... Checks out. They are feminizing men at a rapid rate.

    There it is. One of our resident autists (if I say neurodivergent your head might explode) finally couldn't help themselves and had to spew AIDS for everyone else.
    Yeah, 13 year old boys wearing dresses and make up is completely normal
  • Fire_Marshall_BillFire_Marshall_Bill Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,900 Founders Club

    Tug alert @DerekJohnson. Get this shit out of our face. It was clear from the first post. It went from a committee vote about youth football to California feminizing men. Are you fucking kidding me? Do we realize how stupid these people are or am I on an island of retard? Fuck me, man. I'm depressed enough as is during these days of grieving.

    I finally figured out which HH poaster was the faggy UW fan at the airport in skinny jeans and a cardigan with ribbed sleeves. Your hat was cool, FWIW
    This is the unexpected and disappointing one as I've seen you do some great things, and would expect better. You clearly have a higher ceiling than a lot of the MAGA faction, but I'm still getting my reads down and ceiling is nothing without development. I'm looking forward to watching your progress as we move forward. Can't base a game or season on any one play. It's more about the body of work.
    You've clearly spent way too much time in Seattle and/or the now woke Eastside.
  • dirtysouwfdawgdirtysouwfdawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,085 Swaye's Wigwam

    Tug alert @DerekJohnson. Get this shit out of our face. It was clear from the first post. It went from a committee vote about youth football to California feminizing men. Are you fucking kidding me? Do we realize how stupid these people are or am I on an island of retard? Fuck me, man. I'm depressed enough as is during these days of grieving.

    I finally figured out which HH poaster was the faggy UW fan at the airport in skinny jeans and a cardigan with ribbed sleeves. Your hat was cool, FWIW
    This is the unexpected and disappointing one as I've seen you do some great things, and would expect better. You clearly have a higher ceiling than a lot of the MAGA faction, but I'm still getting my reads down and ceiling is nothing without development. I'm looking forward to watching your progress as we move forward. Can't base a game or season on any one play. It's more about the body of work.
    You've clearly spent way too much time in Seattle and/or the now woke Eastside.
    I lived on the Eastside when it was ok to call kids fags and sell dime bags for twenty bucks to the plateau riches.
  • AEBAEB Member Posts: 2,972

    Tug alert @DerekJohnson. Get this shit out of our face. It was clear from the first post. It went from a committee vote about youth football to California feminizing men. Are you fucking kidding me? Do we realize how stupid these people are or am I on an island of retard? Fuck me, man. I'm depressed enough as is during these days of grieving.

    Google "why does California ban everything" and you will see over a decade of articles about California banning everything from candy to cars to guns to youth football.

    I've bought many products with a warning on them that says:

    "California thinks there might be a 0.001% chance this product causes a 0.00001% increased risk of cancer if exposed to it frequently, so we want this warning label on here because we're a bunch of pussies"

    That's just the tip of the iceberg. Not everyone in California is a pussy, but they have more per capital than any other state.
    All those California warnings also increase costs as it gets passed on to the consumers through increased insurance premiums as the insurance companies use this new law as an excuse to jack prices. .
    FTFY
  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 35,421 Founders Club
    PurpleJ said:

    I played tackle football in a dress and makeup

    I believe it, pal.
  • houseofpain247houseofpain247 Member Posts: 239
    Sandra6 said:

    For real though, football is quickly becoming a sport for the poors. Unless they're destined to be a QB or kicker, you're signing your kid up for early onset CTE with the end goal of surviving for a few years in the NFL and getting a paycheck that's only guaranteed week to week.

    Why do that when the Saudis and LA Dodgers are throwing around 9 figure guaranteed deals?

    @GreenRiverGatorz what is the data on CTE for kids that only played through HS or College? Honest and not loaded question. I'm not well versed in this subject.

    Seems like if HS Football alone cause CTE, there would be a lot more CTE out there. And nowadays, I would think the equipment and protocols are much better.
    Who knows how much is out there since diagnosis is post-mortem. This study shows a stark increase in risk with players in the NFL versus college and high school. There's a lot of high level math and statistics jargon in there, so someone smarter than me will have to conclude whether or not this study touches on prevalence of high school players vs gen pop.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9989358/#:~:text=We therefore estimated that high,, respectively (Table 3).

    I have a really hard time imagining that boys under 12 are strong enough to give each other CTE.

    Something tells me that football gets more and more dangerous as you get to higher levels of play. Maybe there’s occasional CTE in high school football. But the NFL, where you’re playing against not just grown men, but the very strongest grown men in America-that’s really where CTE explodes.

    Is there seriously even one documented case of CTE resulting from the puny hits somebody got in Pop Warner at age 11 or younger?
    You clearly never saw me play junior tackle football.... Hit like a Mack truck
  • pawzpawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 20,938 Founders Club

    Tug alert @DerekJohnson. Get this shit out of our face. It was clear from the first post. It went from a committee vote about youth football to California feminizing men. Are you fucking kidding me? Do we realize how stupid these people are or am I on an island of retard? Fuck me, man. I'm depressed enough as is during these days of grieving.

    I finally figured out which HH poaster was the faggy UW fan at the airport in skinny jeans and a cardigan with ribbed sleeves. Your hat was cool, FWIW
    This is the unexpected and disappointing one as I've seen you do some great things, and would expect better. You clearly have a higher ceiling than a lot of the MAGA faction, but I'm still getting my reads down and ceiling is nothing without development. I'm looking forward to watching your progress as we move forward. Can't base a game or season on any one play. It's more about the body of work.
    You've clearly spent way too much time in Seattle and/or the now woke Eastside.
    Simple fact. Case closed. End of discussion.

  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,965 Standard Supporter
    HuskyBuck said:

    Tug alert @DerekJohnson. Get this shit out of our face. It was clear from the first post. It went from a committee vote about youth football to California feminizing men. Are you fucking kidding me? Do we realize how stupid these people are or am I on an island of retard? Fuck me, man. I'm depressed enough as is during these days of grieving.

    Google "why does California ban everything" and you will see over a decade of articles about California banning everything from candy to cars to guns to youth football.

    I've bought many products with a warning on them that says:

    "California thinks there might be a 0.001% chance this product causes a 0.00001% increased risk of cancer if exposed to it frequently, so we want this warning label on here because we're a bunch of pussies"

    That's just the tip of the iceberg. Not everyone in California is a pussy, but they have more per capital than any other state.
    “More Per Capital than any other state”…..Well that explains this thread and a certain type of poster on here.
    Mis-spells are allowed and celebrated here, New Fish.
  • dirtysouwfdawgdirtysouwfdawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,085 Swaye's Wigwam
    PurpleJ said:

    I played tackle football in a dress and makeup

    Isn’t that called smear the queer?
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,965 Standard Supporter
    Swaye said:

    89ute said:

    Glad we don't recruit California anymore. You don't see this shit in Texas.

    If a politician put this bill forward in Texas their house would be burned down within a week. You do not fuck with football in Texas.
    A similar great day occurred in Lynnwood, WA in the late 90s, when the neighborhood was informed a Level 3 Sex Offender was moving back to the neighborhood, so the Ford Ranger/Nissan Pickup driving neighborhood dads burned his house down.
  • dirtysouwfdawgdirtysouwfdawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,085 Swaye's Wigwam

    Swaye said:

    89ute said:

    Glad we don't recruit California anymore. You don't see this shit in Texas.

    If a politician put this bill forward in Texas their house would be burned down within a week. You do not fuck with football in Texas.
    A similar great day occurred in Lynnwood, WA in the late 90s, when the neighborhood was informed a Level 3 Sex Offender was moving back to the neighborhood, so the Ford Ranger/Nissan Pickup driving neighborhood dads burned his house down.
    Hole e shit.

    That’s a good short story.
  • BleachedAnusDawgBleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 11,540

    Swaye said:

    89ute said:

    Glad we don't recruit California anymore. You don't see this shit in Texas.

    If a politician put this bill forward in Texas their house would be burned down within a week. You do not fuck with football in Texas.
    A similar great day occurred in Lynnwood, WA in the late 90s, when the neighborhood was informed a Level 3 Sex Offender was moving back to the neighborhood, so the Ford Ranger/Nissan Pickup driving neighborhood dads burned his house down.
    So good I decided to Google it as I'm not Pup.

    https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1993-08-01-mn-19079-story.html
  • TheHBTheHB Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 6,029 Swaye's Wigwam
    Sandra6 said:

    For real though, football is quickly becoming a sport for the poors. Unless they're destined to be a QB or kicker, you're signing your kid up for early onset CTE with the end goal of surviving for a few years in the NFL and getting a paycheck that's only guaranteed week to week.

    Why do that when the Saudis and LA Dodgers are throwing around 9 figure guaranteed deals?

    @GreenRiverGatorz what is the data on CTE for kids that only played through HS or College? Honest and not loaded question. I'm not well versed in this subject.

    Seems like if HS Football alone cause CTE, there would be a lot more CTE out there. And nowadays, I would think the equipment and protocols are much better.
    Who knows how much is out there since diagnosis is post-mortem. This study shows a stark increase in risk with players in the NFL versus college and high school. There's a lot of high level math and statistics jargon in there, so someone smarter than me will have to conclude whether or not this study touches on prevalence of high school players vs gen pop.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9989358/#:~:text=We therefore estimated that high,, respectively (Table 3).

    I have a really hard time imagining that boys under 12 are strong enough to give each other CTE.

    Something tells me that football gets more and more dangerous as you get to higher levels of play. Maybe there’s occasional CTE in high school football. But the NFL, where you’re playing against not just grown men, but the very strongest grown men in America-that’s really where CTE explodes.

    Is there seriously even one documented case of CTE resulting from the puny hits somebody got in Pop Warner at age 11 or younger?
    Started playing PeeWee football when I was 9. Got my first concussion before fourth grade classes even started.
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