California Bill Banning Football for Kids Under 12 Passes Committee
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GreenRiverGatorz said:
Who knows how much is out there since diagnosis is post-mortem. This study shows a stark increase in risk with players in the NFL versus college and high school. There's a lot of high level math and statistics jargon in there, so someone smarter than me will have to conclude whether or not this study touches on prevalence of high school players vs gen pop.YellowSnow said:
@GreenRiverGatorz what is the data on CTE for kids that only played through HS or College? Honest and not loaded question. I'm not well versed in this subject.GreenRiverGatorz said:For real though, football is quickly becoming a sport for the poors. Unless they're destined to be a QB or kicker, you're signing your kid up for early onset CTE with the end goal of surviving for a few years in the NFL and getting a paycheck that's only guaranteed week to week.
Why do that when the Saudis and LA Dodgers are throwing around 9 figure guaranteed deals?
Seems like if HS Football alone cause CTE, there would be a lot more CTE out there. And nowadays, I would think the equipment and protocols are much better.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9989358/#:~:text=We therefore estimated that high,, respectively (Table 3).
I have a really hard time imagining that boys under 12 are strong enough to give each other CTE.
Something tells me that football gets more and more dangerous as you get to higher levels of play. Maybe there’s occasional CTE in high school football. But the NFL, where you’re playing against not just grown men, but the very strongest grown men in America-that’s really where CTE explodes.
Is there seriously even one documented case of CTE resulting from the puny hits somebody got in Pop Warner at age 11 or younger? -
All those California warnings also increase costs as it gets passed on to the consumers.Fenderbender123 said:
Google "why does California ban everything" and you will see over a decade of articles about California banning everything from candy to cars to guns to youth football.CallMeBigErn said:Tug alert @DerekJohnson. Get this shit out of our face. It was clear from the first post. It went from a committee vote about youth football to California feminizing men. Are you fucking kidding me? Do we realize how stupid these people are or am I on an island of retard? Fuck me, man. I'm depressed enough as is during these days of grieving.
I've bought many products with a warning on them that says:
"California thinks there might be a 0.001% chance this product causes a 0.00001% increased risk of cancer if exposed to it frequently, so we want this warning label on here because we're a bunch of pussies"
That's just the tip of the iceberg. Not everyone in California is a pussy, but they have more per capital than any other state. -
Ironically Rugby is growing in popularity down here. Fuck the pads for under 12 anyways. They shouldn't even be wearing shoes until that age imo.
Can't wait for the unintended consequences of smear the queer returning to California. -
I started pop warner in 6th grade which is what 11 or 12? Do people even play before that? It’s gotta be like kid soccer where they just all run around in a mob
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As someone who began playing tackle football in the 2nd grade, I agree with your take hereSandra6 said:GreenRiverGatorz said:
Who knows how much is out there since diagnosis is post-mortem. This study shows a stark increase in risk with players in the NFL versus college and high school. There's a lot of high level math and statistics jargon in there, so someone smarter than me will have to conclude whether or not this study touches on prevalence of high school players vs gen pop.YellowSnow said:
@GreenRiverGatorz what is the data on CTE for kids that only played through HS or College? Honest and not loaded question. I'm not well versed in this subject.GreenRiverGatorz said:For real though, football is quickly becoming a sport for the poors. Unless they're destined to be a QB or kicker, you're signing your kid up for early onset CTE with the end goal of surviving for a few years in the NFL and getting a paycheck that's only guaranteed week to week.
Why do that when the Saudis and LA Dodgers are throwing around 9 figure guaranteed deals?
Seems like if HS Football alone cause CTE, there would be a lot more CTE out there. And nowadays, I would think the equipment and protocols are much better.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9989358/#:~:text=We therefore estimated that high,, respectively (Table 3).
I have a really hard time imagining that boys under 12 are strong enough to give each other CTE.
Something tells me that football gets more and more dangerous as you get to higher levels of play. Maybe there’s occasional CTE in high school football. But the NFL, where you’re playing against not just grown men, but the very strongest grown men in America-that’s really where CTE explodes.
Is there seriously even one documented case of CTE resulting from the puny hits somebody got in Pop Warner at age 11 or younger? -
Isn't Newsom going to veto this of it passes? Pretty sure I read that it's dead. For now.
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Yeah, 13 year old boys wearing dresses and make up is completely normalGreenRiverGatorz said:
There it is. One of our resident autists (if I say neurodivergent your head might explode) finally couldn't help themselves and had to spew AIDS for everyone else.Postal91 said:They let kids drug up on gender shit.... But cannot play football. California.... Checks out. They are feminizing men at a rapid rate.
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You've clearly spent way too much time in Seattle and/or the now woke Eastside.CallMeBigErn said:
This is the unexpected and disappointing one as I've seen you do some great things, and would expect better. You clearly have a higher ceiling than a lot of the MAGA faction, but I'm still getting my reads down and ceiling is nothing without development. I'm looking forward to watching your progress as we move forward. Can't base a game or season on any one play. It's more about the body of work.EsophagealFeces said:
I finally figured out which HH poaster was the faggy UW fan at the airport in skinny jeans and a cardigan with ribbed sleeves. Your hat was cool, FWIWCallMeBigErn said:Tug alert @DerekJohnson. Get this shit out of our face. It was clear from the first post. It went from a committee vote about youth football to California feminizing men. Are you fucking kidding me? Do we realize how stupid these people are or am I on an island of retard? Fuck me, man. I'm depressed enough as is during these days of grieving.
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I lived on the Eastside when it was ok to call kids fags and sell dime bags for twenty bucks to the plateau riches.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
You've clearly spent way too much time in Seattle and/or the now woke Eastside.CallMeBigErn said:
This is the unexpected and disappointing one as I've seen you do some great things, and would expect better. You clearly have a higher ceiling than a lot of the MAGA faction, but I'm still getting my reads down and ceiling is nothing without development. I'm looking forward to watching your progress as we move forward. Can't base a game or season on any one play. It's more about the body of work.EsophagealFeces said:
I finally figured out which HH poaster was the faggy UW fan at the airport in skinny jeans and a cardigan with ribbed sleeves. Your hat was cool, FWIWCallMeBigErn said:Tug alert @DerekJohnson. Get this shit out of our face. It was clear from the first post. It went from a committee vote about youth football to California feminizing men. Are you fucking kidding me? Do we realize how stupid these people are or am I on an island of retard? Fuck me, man. I'm depressed enough as is during these days of grieving.
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FTFYCFetters_Nacho_Lover said:
All those California warnings also increase costs as it gets passed on to the consumers through increased insurance premiums as the insurance companies use this new law as an excuse to jack prices. .Fenderbender123 said:
Google "why does California ban everything" and you will see over a decade of articles about California banning everything from candy to cars to guns to youth football.CallMeBigErn said:Tug alert @DerekJohnson. Get this shit out of our face. It was clear from the first post. It went from a committee vote about youth football to California feminizing men. Are you fucking kidding me? Do we realize how stupid these people are or am I on an island of retard? Fuck me, man. I'm depressed enough as is during these days of grieving.
I've bought many products with a warning on them that says:
"California thinks there might be a 0.001% chance this product causes a 0.00001% increased risk of cancer if exposed to it frequently, so we want this warning label on here because we're a bunch of pussies"
That's just the tip of the iceberg. Not everyone in California is a pussy, but they have more per capital than any other state. -
I played tackle football in a dress and makeup
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I believe it, pal.PurpleJ said:I played tackle football in a dress and makeup
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You clearly never saw me play junior tackle football.... Hit like a Mack truckSandra6 said:GreenRiverGatorz said:
Who knows how much is out there since diagnosis is post-mortem. This study shows a stark increase in risk with players in the NFL versus college and high school. There's a lot of high level math and statistics jargon in there, so someone smarter than me will have to conclude whether or not this study touches on prevalence of high school players vs gen pop.YellowSnow said:
@GreenRiverGatorz what is the data on CTE for kids that only played through HS or College? Honest and not loaded question. I'm not well versed in this subject.GreenRiverGatorz said:For real though, football is quickly becoming a sport for the poors. Unless they're destined to be a QB or kicker, you're signing your kid up for early onset CTE with the end goal of surviving for a few years in the NFL and getting a paycheck that's only guaranteed week to week.
Why do that when the Saudis and LA Dodgers are throwing around 9 figure guaranteed deals?
Seems like if HS Football alone cause CTE, there would be a lot more CTE out there. And nowadays, I would think the equipment and protocols are much better.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9989358/#:~:text=We therefore estimated that high,, respectively (Table 3).
I have a really hard time imagining that boys under 12 are strong enough to give each other CTE.
Something tells me that football gets more and more dangerous as you get to higher levels of play. Maybe there’s occasional CTE in high school football. But the NFL, where you’re playing against not just grown men, but the very strongest grown men in America-that’s really where CTE explodes.
Is there seriously even one documented case of CTE resulting from the puny hits somebody got in Pop Warner at age 11 or younger? -
Simple fact. Case closed. End of discussion.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
You've clearly spent way too much time in Seattle and/or the now woke Eastside.CallMeBigErn said:
This is the unexpected and disappointing one as I've seen you do some great things, and would expect better. You clearly have a higher ceiling than a lot of the MAGA faction, but I'm still getting my reads down and ceiling is nothing without development. I'm looking forward to watching your progress as we move forward. Can't base a game or season on any one play. It's more about the body of work.EsophagealFeces said:
I finally figured out which HH poaster was the faggy UW fan at the airport in skinny jeans and a cardigan with ribbed sleeves. Your hat was cool, FWIWCallMeBigErn said:Tug alert @DerekJohnson. Get this shit out of our face. It was clear from the first post. It went from a committee vote about youth football to California feminizing men. Are you fucking kidding me? Do we realize how stupid these people are or am I on an island of retard? Fuck me, man. I'm depressed enough as is during these days of grieving.
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Mis-spells are allowed and celebrated here, New Fish.HuskyBuck said:
“More Per Capital than any other state”…..Well that explains this thread and a certain type of poster on here.Fenderbender123 said:
Google "why does California ban everything" and you will see over a decade of articles about California banning everything from candy to cars to guns to youth football.CallMeBigErn said:Tug alert @DerekJohnson. Get this shit out of our face. It was clear from the first post. It went from a committee vote about youth football to California feminizing men. Are you fucking kidding me? Do we realize how stupid these people are or am I on an island of retard? Fuck me, man. I'm depressed enough as is during these days of grieving.
I've bought many products with a warning on them that says:
"California thinks there might be a 0.001% chance this product causes a 0.00001% increased risk of cancer if exposed to it frequently, so we want this warning label on here because we're a bunch of pussies"
That's just the tip of the iceberg. Not everyone in California is a pussy, but they have more per capital than any other state. -
Isn’t that called smear the queer?PurpleJ said:I played tackle football in a dress and makeup
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A similar great day occurred in Lynnwood, WA in the late 90s, when the neighborhood was informed a Level 3 Sex Offender was moving back to the neighborhood, so the Ford Ranger/Nissan Pickup driving neighborhood dads burned his house down.Swaye said:
If a politician put this bill forward in Texas their house would be burned down within a week. You do not fuck with football in Texas.89ute said:Glad we don't recruit California anymore. You don't see this shit in Texas.
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Hole e shit.TurdBomber said:
A similar great day occurred in Lynnwood, WA in the late 90s, when the neighborhood was informed a Level 3 Sex Offender was moving back to the neighborhood, so the Ford Ranger/Nissan Pickup driving neighborhood dads burned his house down.Swaye said:
If a politician put this bill forward in Texas their house would be burned down within a week. You do not fuck with football in Texas.89ute said:Glad we don't recruit California anymore. You don't see this shit in Texas.
That’s a good short story. -
So good I decided to Google it as I'm not Pup.TurdBomber said:
A similar great day occurred in Lynnwood, WA in the late 90s, when the neighborhood was informed a Level 3 Sex Offender was moving back to the neighborhood, so the Ford Ranger/Nissan Pickup driving neighborhood dads burned his house down.Swaye said:
If a politician put this bill forward in Texas their house would be burned down within a week. You do not fuck with football in Texas.89ute said:Glad we don't recruit California anymore. You don't see this shit in Texas.
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1993-08-01-mn-19079-story.html -
Started playing PeeWee football when I was 9. Got my first concussion before fourth grade classes even started.Sandra6 said:GreenRiverGatorz said:
Who knows how much is out there since diagnosis is post-mortem. This study shows a stark increase in risk with players in the NFL versus college and high school. There's a lot of high level math and statistics jargon in there, so someone smarter than me will have to conclude whether or not this study touches on prevalence of high school players vs gen pop.YellowSnow said:
@GreenRiverGatorz what is the data on CTE for kids that only played through HS or College? Honest and not loaded question. I'm not well versed in this subject.GreenRiverGatorz said:For real though, football is quickly becoming a sport for the poors. Unless they're destined to be a QB or kicker, you're signing your kid up for early onset CTE with the end goal of surviving for a few years in the NFL and getting a paycheck that's only guaranteed week to week.
Why do that when the Saudis and LA Dodgers are throwing around 9 figure guaranteed deals?
Seems like if HS Football alone cause CTE, there would be a lot more CTE out there. And nowadays, I would think the equipment and protocols are much better.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9989358/#:~:text=We therefore estimated that high,, respectively (Table 3).
I have a really hard time imagining that boys under 12 are strong enough to give each other CTE.
Something tells me that football gets more and more dangerous as you get to higher levels of play. Maybe there’s occasional CTE in high school football. But the NFL, where you’re playing against not just grown men, but the very strongest grown men in America-that’s really where CTE explodes.
Is there seriously even one documented case of CTE resulting from the puny hits somebody got in Pop Warner at age 11 or younger? -
Started getting concussions boxing my brother in grade school.TheHB said:
Started playing PeeWee football when I was 9. Got my first concussion before fourth grade classes even started.Sandra6 said:GreenRiverGatorz said:
Who knows how much is out there since diagnosis is post-mortem. This study shows a stark increase in risk with players in the NFL versus college and high school. There's a lot of high level math and statistics jargon in there, so someone smarter than me will have to conclude whether or not this study touches on prevalence of high school players vs gen pop.YellowSnow said:
@GreenRiverGatorz what is the data on CTE for kids that only played through HS or College? Honest and not loaded question. I'm not well versed in this subject.GreenRiverGatorz said:For real though, football is quickly becoming a sport for the poors. Unless they're destined to be a QB or kicker, you're signing your kid up for early onset CTE with the end goal of surviving for a few years in the NFL and getting a paycheck that's only guaranteed week to week.
Why do that when the Saudis and LA Dodgers are throwing around 9 figure guaranteed deals?
Seems like if HS Football alone cause CTE, there would be a lot more CTE out there. And nowadays, I would think the equipment and protocols are much better.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9989358/#:~:text=We therefore estimated that high,, respectively (Table 3).
I have a really hard time imagining that boys under 12 are strong enough to give each other CTE.
Something tells me that football gets more and more dangerous as you get to higher levels of play. Maybe there’s occasional CTE in high school football. But the NFL, where you’re playing against not just grown men, but the very strongest grown men in America-that’s really where CTE explodes.
Is there seriously even one documented case of CTE resulting from the puny hits somebody got in Pop Warner at age 11 or younger?
Huh? -
Yeah, I should have clarified that it was my first football concussion. I got my first concussion in second grade when my bike collided with the front fender of a 1967 Mustang. Needless to say, the car owner was not sympathetic to my cause.RaceBannon said:
Started getting concussions boxing my brother in grade school.TheHB said:
Started playing PeeWee football when I was 9. Got my first concussion before fourth grade classes even started.Sandra6 said:GreenRiverGatorz said:
Who knows how much is out there since diagnosis is post-mortem. This study shows a stark increase in risk with players in the NFL versus college and high school. There's a lot of high level math and statistics jargon in there, so someone smarter than me will have to conclude whether or not this study touches on prevalence of high school players vs gen pop.YellowSnow said:
@GreenRiverGatorz what is the data on CTE for kids that only played through HS or College? Honest and not loaded question. I'm not well versed in this subject.GreenRiverGatorz said:For real though, football is quickly becoming a sport for the poors. Unless they're destined to be a QB or kicker, you're signing your kid up for early onset CTE with the end goal of surviving for a few years in the NFL and getting a paycheck that's only guaranteed week to week.
Why do that when the Saudis and LA Dodgers are throwing around 9 figure guaranteed deals?
Seems like if HS Football alone cause CTE, there would be a lot more CTE out there. And nowadays, I would think the equipment and protocols are much better.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9989358/#:~:text=We therefore estimated that high,, respectively (Table 3).
I have a really hard time imagining that boys under 12 are strong enough to give each other CTE.
Something tells me that football gets more and more dangerous as you get to higher levels of play. Maybe there’s occasional CTE in high school football. But the NFL, where you’re playing against not just grown men, but the very strongest grown men in America-that’s really where CTE explodes.
Is there seriously even one documented case of CTE resulting from the puny hits somebody got in Pop Warner at age 11 or younger?
Huh?
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I don't support legislating personal safety. I was against seatbelt and helmet laws and against banning smoking in privately owned establishments.
I don't really get peewee football. My brother and many friends got involved in it. Kids that age are 99% pussies and can't play the game right. Our community had a number of moms, normally anti government types, who went on a crusade to end the league after their own precious, future superstars got hurt. Funny how attitudes change when something happens close to home.
I think tackle peewee FB benefits about 1% of the kids who take part in terms of their development though. We learned what we needed by playing flag or touch football (when supervised) or tackle/smear the queer when not. My first organized tackle football team (7th grade) had exactly one kid who was a bit more advanced in his tackling technique than the rest of us due to playing organized peewee ball. It took about a week of practice for the other good athletes to catch up.
Bottom line is that I don't care. California gonna California. Play flag football until junior high. Maybe it will work and keep kids engaged. Don't know. I don't think doing that in itself will degrade the quality or quantity of FBS talent. Peewee age kids suck either way. -
My PeeWee age self just transported into the future to say, "oh yeah?"chuck said:I don't support legislating personal safety. I was against seatbelt and helmet laws and against banning smoking in privately owned establishments.
I don't really get peewee football. My brother and many friends got involved in it. Kids that age are 99% pussies and can't play the game right. Our community had a number of moms, normally anti government types, who went on a crusade to end the league after their own precious, future superstars got hurt. Funny how attitudes change when something happens close to home.
I think tackle peewee FB benefits about 1% of the kids who take part in terms of their development though. We learned what we needed by playing flag or touch football (when supervised) or tackle/smear the queer when not. My first organized tackle football team (7th grade) had exactly one kid who was a bit more advanced in his tackling technique than the rest of us due to playing organized peewee ball. It took about a week of practice for the other good athletes to catch up.
Bottom line is that I don't care. California gonna California. Play flag football until junior high. Maybe it will work and keep kids engaged. Don't know. I don't think doing that in itself will degrade the quality or quantity of FBS talent. Peewee age kids suck either way. -
How do you feel about the FDA and food and drug standards?chuck said:I don't support legislating personal safety. I was against seatbelt and helmet laws and against banning smoking in privately owned establishments.
I don't really get peewee football. My brother and many friends got involved in it. Kids that age are 99% pussies and can't play the game right. Our community had a number of moms, normally anti government types, who went on a crusade to end the league after their own precious, future superstars got hurt. Funny how attitudes change when something happens close to home.
I think tackle peewee FB benefits about 1% of the kids who take part in terms of their development though. We learned what we needed by playing flag or touch football (when supervised) or tackle/smear the queer when not. My first organized tackle football team (7th grade) had exactly one kid who was a bit more advanced in his tackling technique than the rest of us due to playing organized peewee ball. It took about a week of practice for the other good athletes to catch up.
Bottom line is that I don't care. California gonna California. Play flag football until junior high. Maybe it will work and keep kids engaged. Don't know. I don't think doing that in itself will degrade the quality or quantity of FBS talent. Peewee age kids suck either way.
What about speed limits in cities and highways? -
TITTTwhatshouldicareabout said:
How do you feel about the FDA and food and drug standards?chuck said:I don't support legislating personal safety. I was against seatbelt and helmet laws and against banning smoking in privately owned establishments.
I don't really get peewee football. My brother and many friends got involved in it. Kids that age are 99% pussies and can't play the game right. Our community had a number of moms, normally anti government types, who went on a crusade to end the league after their own precious, future superstars got hurt. Funny how attitudes change when something happens close to home.
I think tackle peewee FB benefits about 1% of the kids who take part in terms of their development though. We learned what we needed by playing flag or touch football (when supervised) or tackle/smear the queer when not. My first organized tackle football team (7th grade) had exactly one kid who was a bit more advanced in his tackling technique than the rest of us due to playing organized peewee ball. It took about a week of practice for the other good athletes to catch up.
Bottom line is that I don't care. California gonna California. Play flag football until junior high. Maybe it will work and keep kids engaged. Don't know. I don't think doing that in itself will degrade the quality or quantity of FBS talent. Peewee age kids suck either way.
What about speed limits in cities and highways?
There's no equivalency here anyways. If I choose to allow smoking in my bar it only affects those who choose to enter my bar knowing full well what they're entering into. Failing to put on my seatbelt doesn't make me more dangerous to others than if I wore it. Speeding does. -
I'm not trying to criticize you, I'm just curious where your boundaries arechuck said:
TITTTwhatshouldicareabout said:
How do you feel about the FDA and food and drug standards?chuck said:I don't support legislating personal safety. I was against seatbelt and helmet laws and against banning smoking in privately owned establishments.
I don't really get peewee football. My brother and many friends got involved in it. Kids that age are 99% pussies and can't play the game right. Our community had a number of moms, normally anti government types, who went on a crusade to end the league after their own precious, future superstars got hurt. Funny how attitudes change when something happens close to home.
I think tackle peewee FB benefits about 1% of the kids who take part in terms of their development though. We learned what we needed by playing flag or touch football (when supervised) or tackle/smear the queer when not. My first organized tackle football team (7th grade) had exactly one kid who was a bit more advanced in his tackling technique than the rest of us due to playing organized peewee ball. It took about a week of practice for the other good athletes to catch up.
Bottom line is that I don't care. California gonna California. Play flag football until junior high. Maybe it will work and keep kids engaged. Don't know. I don't think doing that in itself will degrade the quality or quantity of FBS talent. Peewee age kids suck either way.
What about speed limits in cities and highways?
There's no equivalency here anyways. If I choose to allow smoking in my bar it only affects those who choose to enter my bar knowing full well what they're entering into. Failing to put on my seatbelt doesn't make me more dangerous to others than if I wore it. Speeding does.
So societal safety yes, personal safety no? -
Pretty much, yes.whatshouldicareabout said:
I'm not trying to criticize you, I'm just curious where your boundaries arechuck said:
TITTTwhatshouldicareabout said:
How do you feel about the FDA and food and drug standards?chuck said:I don't support legislating personal safety. I was against seatbelt and helmet laws and against banning smoking in privately owned establishments.
I don't really get peewee football. My brother and many friends got involved in it. Kids that age are 99% pussies and can't play the game right. Our community had a number of moms, normally anti government types, who went on a crusade to end the league after their own precious, future superstars got hurt. Funny how attitudes change when something happens close to home.
I think tackle peewee FB benefits about 1% of the kids who take part in terms of their development though. We learned what we needed by playing flag or touch football (when supervised) or tackle/smear the queer when not. My first organized tackle football team (7th grade) had exactly one kid who was a bit more advanced in his tackling technique than the rest of us due to playing organized peewee ball. It took about a week of practice for the other good athletes to catch up.
Bottom line is that I don't care. California gonna California. Play flag football until junior high. Maybe it will work and keep kids engaged. Don't know. I don't think doing that in itself will degrade the quality or quantity of FBS talent. Peewee age kids suck either way.
What about speed limits in cities and highways?
There's no equivalency here anyways. If I choose to allow smoking in my bar it only affects those who choose to enter my bar knowing full well what they're entering into. Failing to put on my seatbelt doesn't make me more dangerous to others than if I wore it. Speeding does.
So societal safety yes, personal safety no? -
If he dies he dies
Words to live by
Chuck makes a very nuanced point. You can't be an absolutist about much of anything other than duck fans being full retards. Even then I assume a couple aren't -
Thank Christ finally a thread that is duck proof because of the topic: actually playing the game of football.
