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  • thechatch
    thechatch Member Posts: 7,488 Standard Supporter
    Life after Mariota and Adams was not kind to Helfrich.

    Terrible recruiting and worse staff decisions did him in, because he was never a CEO and he was never a recruiter. He was a reasonable OC and QB coach and should have stayed in that role at the college level.

    Let’s see Lanning after Nix
    Let’s see Deboer after Penix

    We’ve seen Mario after Herbert.

    We’ve seen Jimbo after Jameis.

    So many of these guys are one trick ponies when the right QB1 falls into their lap.

    Petersen and Bellotti had longer term success because they understood that was the one position that they had to get right, and for the most part they recruited and staffed well around that spot.

    Lanning I’m convinced outsources that position to the coordinator(Dillingham brought Nix) and that’s fine because Lanning is a defensive guy who wants to defer to someone like Dillingham or Stein to bring in the guy that’s going to work for their system.

    Mario wants total control over everything. Sometimes it works sometimes it doesn’t.
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  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,188
    thechatch said:

    Life after Mariota and Adams was not kind to Helfrich.

    Terrible recruiting and worse staff decisions did him in, because he was never a CEO and he was never a recruiter. He was a reasonable OC and QB coach and should have stayed in that role at the college level.

    Let’s see Lanning after Nix
    Let’s see Deboer after Penix

    We’ve seen Mario after Herbert.

    We’ve seen Jimbo after Jameis.

    So many of these guys are one trick ponies when the right QB1 falls into their lap.

    Petersen and Bellotti had longer term success because they understood that was the one position that they had to get right, and for the most part they recruited and staffed well around that spot.

    Lanning I’m convinced outsources that position to the coordinator(Dillingham brought Nix) and that’s fine because Lanning is a defensive guy who wants to defer to someone like Dillingham or Stein to bring in the guy that’s going to work for their system.

    Mario wants total control over everything. Sometimes it works sometimes it doesn’t.

    Agree, but there are some very good signs that we didn't see with Helfrich or Mario. Small sample size but the play of the backup QB this year had definitely improved. The defense has improved greatly this year. Lanning doesn't appear to have a problem utilizing the strengths of his offense. Mario losing to Stanford due almost entirely to his stubbornness and an unwillingness to exploit Oregon's team speed advantage over Stanford isn't a problem I've seen in Lanning. That loss has to been one of the worst Oregon losses since Helfrich. It may have a lot to do with Nix, but Lanning is two for two in O-coordinator hires.
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  • thechatch
    thechatch Member Posts: 7,488 Standard Supporter
    Agreed.

    Lanning needs to close in 2023. Next 3 weeks and then what he does with the QB position in 2024 will tell the story of the next ten years of his career, I feel.
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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,710 Founders Club
    edited November 2023
    SFGbob said:

    YellowSnow said:

    @SFGbob can you go back to Silent Cal, por favor?

    The new look creeps me out.

    It's a picture of haie being serviced by Retard Helmet. I think they look great.


    Silent Cal was a classy, dignified look. I just feel bad for the kid in this picture.

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  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,188
    thechatch said:

    Agreed.

    Lanning needs to close in 2023. Next 3 weeks and then what he does with the QB position in 2024 will tell the story of the next ten years of his career, I feel.

    If Lanning wins out and ends up losing another close one to UW I'm not going to freak out about it. Sometimes you get beat by a better team. I'm not saying UW is a better team at this point but if they beat us again in the Championship game you just have to tip your hat, the debate will be over.

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  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,188
    YellowSnow said:

    SFGbob said:

    YellowSnow said:

    @SFGbob can you go back to Silent Cal, por favor?

    The new look creeps me out.

    It's a picture of haie being serviced by Retard Helmet. I think they look great.


    Silent Cal was a classy, dignified look. I just feel bad for the kid in this picture.

    Feel bad for Retard Helmet, he's the one getting the shitty end of the stick in this deal. haie, is a retard, and like most retards he has no idea he is a retard.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,576 Founders Club
    SFGbob said:

    thechatch said:

    Agreed.

    Lanning needs to close in 2023. Next 3 weeks and then what he does with the QB position in 2024 will tell the story of the next ten years of his career, I feel.

    If Lanning wins out and ends up losing another close one to UW I'm not going to freak out about it. Sometimes you get beat by a better team. I'm not saying UW is a better team at this point but if they beat us again in the Championship game you just have to tip your hat, the debate will be over.

    If Washington loses DeBoer better pack his bags

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  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,188
    RaceBannon said:

    SFGbob said:

    thechatch said:

    Agreed.

    Lanning needs to close in 2023. Next 3 weeks and then what he does with the QB position in 2024 will tell the story of the next ten years of his career, I feel.

    If Lanning wins out and ends up losing another close one to UW I'm not going to freak out about it. Sometimes you get beat by a better team. I'm not saying UW is a better team at this point but if they beat us again in the Championship game you just have to tip your hat, the debate will be over.

    If Washington loses DeBoer better pack his bags

    This place will have it's usual meltdown. If you guys beat us again, you should be ranked no lower than No. 2. You won't be but that's where I'd put you.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,576 Founders Club
    SFGbob said:

    RaceBannon said:

    SFGbob said:

    thechatch said:

    Agreed.

    Lanning needs to close in 2023. Next 3 weeks and then what he does with the QB position in 2024 will tell the story of the next ten years of his career, I feel.

    If Lanning wins out and ends up losing another close one to UW I'm not going to freak out about it. Sometimes you get beat by a better team. I'm not saying UW is a better team at this point but if they beat us again in the Championship game you just have to tip your hat, the debate will be over.

    If Washington loses DeBoer better pack his bags

    This place will have it's usual meltdown. If you guys beat us again, you should be ranked no lower than No. 2. You won't be but that's where I'd put you.
    We do have our standards here

    DeBoer has way exceeded expectations already. He's getting a raise regardless

    I think Lanning will too

    We'll be doing this again next year
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  • thechatch
    thechatch Member Posts: 7,488 Standard Supporter
    If Landon goes oh, and three against you – first two years, I will officially be concerned.

    Last year‘s loss was tougher to swallow than this years, and race is going to make fun of me, but I’m convinced that in both games, Oregon was the better team, and at the end of the day that’s on Lanning to make sure that you win when you’re better
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