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  • Fishpo31
    Fishpo31 Member Posts: 2,673
    They are apparently attempting to reduce strikeouts, and they have…everybody is running with “Dip is going after Chapman”, but he is a mild upgrade, if they can even sign him. They now have to replace 48 jacks and 190 RBI…tick, tick…
  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,809 Swaye's Wigwam
    Fishpo31 said:

    They are apparently attempting to reduce strikeouts, and they have…everybody is running with “Dip is going after Chapman”, but he is a mild upgrade, if they can even sign him. They now have to replace 48 jacks and 190 RBI…tick, tick…

    48 is about how many Shohei should hit, right?

    They cleared some payroll and some strikeouts. Now go get someone who can hit for fucks sake.

    No thanks on Chapman. He's overrated and is about to get overpayed. Not even an upgrade.

    If they trade for Parades from Tampa I'll cheer up. I know a dead pull, RH hitter doesn't fit the narrative around T Mobile Park, but I don't think it's much of an issue. The power alleys and center are where it's tough to clear the wall, not straight away left field.
  • HFNY
    HFNY Member Posts: 5,515
    Paredes would be great and probably a long-term fit.

    How do people feel about Ty France and was he hurt more often than anyone let on? Fangraphs has his bouncing back but his AVG, OBP, and SLG have declined for 3 straight seasons.

  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,809 Swaye's Wigwam
    HFNY said:

    Paredes would be great and probably a long-term fit.

    How do people feel about Ty France and was he hurt more often than anyone let on? Fangraphs has his bouncing back but his AVG, OBP, and SLG have declined for 3 straight seasons.

    I want them to hang on to France but aquire a solid DH who can play 1b as well in case France sucks again. It could be that he just needs more days off though.
  • Fishpo31
    Fishpo31 Member Posts: 2,673
    chuck said:

    HFNY said:

    Paredes would be great and probably a long-term fit.

    How do people feel about Ty France and was he hurt more often than anyone let on? Fangraphs has his bouncing back but his AVG, OBP, and SLG have declined for 3 straight seasons.

    I want them to hang on to France but aquire a solid DH who can play 1b as well in case France sucks again. It could be that he just needs more days off though.
    France is a grinder, and while you need grinders, they get banged up and won’t tap out, which is what France did, IMO. He fits a role, and that role for me is a 6-7 hole bat, .270-.280 with some pop. When healthy, he can do it. His swing got really fucked up, post injuries. He had to start cheating to catch up to the FB, and the pitchers wore him out.
  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,809 Swaye's Wigwam
    Fishpo31 said:

    chuck said:

    HFNY said:

    Paredes would be great and probably a long-term fit.

    How do people feel about Ty France and was he hurt more often than anyone let on? Fangraphs has his bouncing back but his AVG, OBP, and SLG have declined for 3 straight seasons.

    I want them to hang on to France but aquire a solid DH who can play 1b as well in case France sucks again. It could be that he just needs more days off though.
    France is a grinder, and while you need grinders, they get banged up and won’t tap out, which is what France did, IMO. He fits a role, and that role for me is a 6-7 hole bat, .270-.280 with some pop. When healthy, he can do it. His swing got really fucked up, post injuries. He had to start cheating to catch up to the FB, and the pitchers wore him out.
    I thought it was something way more complicated than a loss of bat speed. I felt like that was a symptom of a larger issue.

    If that started the tailspin it would make sense though. He did seem to hit a lot of warning track balls.

    He's young and there's no reason he shouldn't get it back. He just can't be counted on as a top third of the order bat like I thought he'd be. If they can rest and maybe give him some DH days WHILE adding significant power to the lineup I completely agree. He can carry the offense at times when hot and he's cheap.
  • HFNY
    HFNY Member Posts: 5,515
    chuck said:

    Fishpo31 said:

    chuck said:

    HFNY said:

    Paredes would be great and probably a long-term fit.

    How do people feel about Ty France and was he hurt more often than anyone let on? Fangraphs has his bouncing back but his AVG, OBP, and SLG have declined for 3 straight seasons.

    I want them to hang on to France but aquire a solid DH who can play 1b as well in case France sucks again. It could be that he just needs more days off though.
    France is a grinder, and while you need grinders, they get banged up and won’t tap out, which is what France did, IMO. He fits a role, and that role for me is a 6-7 hole bat, .270-.280 with some pop. When healthy, he can do it. His swing got really fucked up, post injuries. He had to start cheating to catch up to the FB, and the pitchers wore him out.
    I thought it was something way more complicated than a loss of bat speed. I felt like that was a symptom of a larger issue.

    If that started the tailspin it would make sense though. He did seem to hit a lot of warning track balls.

    He's young and there's no reason he shouldn't get it back. He just can't be counted on as a top third of the order bat like I thought he'd be. If they can rest and maybe give him some DH days WHILE adding significant power to the lineup I completely agree. He can carry the offense at times when hot and he's cheap.
    Good call on the 6 or 7 spot in the lineup and I'm thinking the wrist injury he had in late May messed him up more and longer than he let on.

    Here's a crazy idea: the Mariners dealt Suarez away to dump salary because they are going to trade for Manny Machado. Dipoto and the SD GM have done multiple deals and San Diego is looking to shed payroll in a big way. They would obviously start with Soto but maybe they think they need to do a rebuild.
  • HFNY
    HFNY Member Posts: 5,515
    Or the M's sign Candelario and Gurriel and then trade for a DH who can also play a little 1B.

    Then they have Kelenic and Canzone battle it out for RF. I would be nice if Canzone could play a little 1B.
  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,743 Standard Supporter
    Does anyone actually expect the Mariners to land a big fish bat?
  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,809 Swaye's Wigwam

    Does anyone actually expect the Mariners to land a big fish bat?

    Expect them to? Yes.

    Believe it when I see it? Yes.