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Supreme Court does something it should have done 40 years ago
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I'm SHOCKED.Bob_C said:
That part will never happen.GrundleStiltzkin said:
If I'm not mistaken, Harvard can discriminate or preference in any way they like. They only have to reject federal funding.hardhat said: -
But can you tell us about the data analytics of dog whistles?MelloDawg said:
But can they be heard over dog whistles like that?WestlinnDuck said:
Thomas along with Scalia are the two best Supreme Court justices in the last 80 years. Both could define a woman and both could read for understanding. The most recent "black" justice can't do either. I don't define that as some sort of societal improvement.hardhat said: -
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You know what I'm wondering, is if any of them were allowed to vote? -
Can't hear over the dog whistleshardhat said:
You know what I'm wondering, is if any of them were allowed to vote? -
Nothing beats the quiet part out loud. Racist Dems ALWAYS deliver. Mello, who I don't believe is racist, is sure quick to point out perceived racism, which is weird for a guy who voted for a racist. All of this is deeply confusing for an avowed centrist.hardhat said: -
Imagine the Babylon Bee getting the position of most Democrats wrong.Sledog said:
The insanity is over? I'm sure the lefty loons running the colleges are going to ignore this ruling like a Dazzler post.
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2019/02/25/most-americans-say-colleges-should-not-consider-race-or-ethnicity-in-admissions/ -
They got cancelled from twitter for being right, not wrong.HHusky said:
Imagine the Babylon Bee getting the position of most Democrats wrong.Sledog said:
The insanity is over? I'm sure the lefty loons running the colleges are going to ignore this ruling like a Dazzler post.
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2019/02/25/most-americans-say-colleges-should-not-consider-race-or-ethnicity-in-admissions/
Hope this helps.
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I'd be more outraged about their cancellation if they were ever funny.pawz said:
They got cancelled from twitter for being right, not wrong.HHusky said:
Imagine the Babylon Bee getting the position of most Democrats wrong.Sledog said:
The insanity is over? I'm sure the lefty loons running the colleges are going to ignore this ruling like a Dazzler post.
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2019/02/25/most-americans-say-colleges-should-not-consider-race-or-ethnicity-in-admissions/
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HHusky said:
Imagine the Babylon Bee getting the position of most Democrats wrong.Sledog said:
The insanity is over? I'm sure the lefty loons running the colleges are going to ignore this ruling like a Dazzler post.
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2019/02/25/most-americans-say-colleges-should-not-consider-race-or-ethnicity-in-admissions/
So you're saying that the people they elected don't give a fuck what they think?
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My take is more cynical than yours.hardhat said:HHusky said:
Imagine the Babylon Bee getting the position of most Democrats wrong.Sledog said:
The insanity is over? I'm sure the lefty loons running the colleges are going to ignore this ruling like a Dazzler post.
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2019/02/25/most-americans-say-colleges-should-not-consider-race-or-ethnicity-in-admissions/
So you're saying that the people they elected don't give a fuck what they think? -
Fixed that for you, boomer.HHusky said:
My takes are stupid.hardhat said:HHusky said:
Imagine the Babylon Bee getting the position of most Democrats wrong.Sledog said:
The insanity is over? I'm sure the lefty loons running the colleges are going to ignore this ruling like a Dazzler post.
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2019/02/25/most-americans-say-colleges-should-not-consider-race-or-ethnicity-in-admissions/
So you're saying that the people they elected don't give a fuck what they think? -
Civil Rights Act of 1964. Not sure how Harvard is funded. But to pretend that a color blind Constitution and the Civil Rights Act of 1964 aren't well established principles of our justice system is inane. Both the education and employment provisions of the Civil Rights Act specifically bar the use of disparate impact to provide quotas.hardhat said:HHusky said:
Imagine the Babylon Bee getting the position of most Democrats wrong.Sledog said:
The insanity is over? I'm sure the lefty loons running the colleges are going to ignore this ruling like a Dazzler post.
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2019/02/25/most-americans-say-colleges-should-not-consider-race-or-ethnicity-in-admissions/
So you're saying that the people they elected don't give a fuck what they think?
TITLE IV--DESEGREGATION OF PUBLIC EDUCATION
DEFINITIONS
SEC. 401. As used in this title--
(a) "Commissioner" means the Commissioner of Education.
(b) "Desegregation" means the assignment of students to public schools and within such schools without regard to their race, color, religion, or national origin, but "desegregation" shall not mean the assignment of students to public schools in order to overcome racial imbalance.
(c) "Public school" means any elementary or secondary educational institution, and "public college" means any institution of higher education or any technical or vocational school above the secondary school level, provided that such public school or public college is operated by a State, subdivision of a State, or governmental agency within a State, or operated wholly or predominantly from or through the use of governmental funds or property, or funds or property derived from a governmental source. -
You decided to use that gem on a subject we agree upon? Genius move!hardhat said:
Fixed that for you, boomer.HHusky said:
My takes are stupid.hardhat said:HHusky said:
Imagine the Babylon Bee getting the position of most Democrats wrong.Sledog said:
The insanity is over? I'm sure the lefty loons running the colleges are going to ignore this ruling like a Dazzler post.
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2019/02/25/most-americans-say-colleges-should-not-consider-race-or-ethnicity-in-admissions/
So you're saying that the people they elected don't give a fuck what they think? -
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How old are you? You always shift to straw man tactics, like a little child. Your 'topic' is that 'democrats' are against it. Yet today we've seen a bunch of crying, shrieking nonsense from the leaders of that party. You may be against it, and that's great. But everyone from Obama to shitheads like Inslee that actually represent the democrats are saying something else.HHusky said:
You decided to use that gem on subject we agree upon? Genius move!hardhat said:
Fixed that for you, boomer.HHusky said:
My takes are stupid.hardhat said:HHusky said:
Imagine the Babylon Bee getting the position of most Democrats wrong.Sledog said:
The insanity is over? I'm sure the lefty loons running the colleges are going to ignore this ruling like a Dazzler post.
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2019/02/25/most-americans-say-colleges-should-not-consider-race-or-ethnicity-in-admissions/
So you're saying that the people they elected don't give a fuck what they think? -
'It worked great for me, I was able to pretend I was Native American'
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really oldhardhat said:
How old are you? You always shift to straw man tactics, like a little child. Your 'topic' is that 'democrats' are against it. Yet today we've seen a bunch of crying, shrieking nonsense from the leaders of that party. You may be against it, and that's great. But everyone from Obama to shitheads like Inslee that actually represent the democrats are saying something else.HHusky said:
You decided to use that gem on subject we agree upon? Genius move!hardhat said:
Fixed that for you, boomer.HHusky said:
My takes are stupid.hardhat said:HHusky said:
Imagine the Babylon Bee getting the position of most Democrats wrong.Sledog said:
The insanity is over? I'm sure the lefty loons running the colleges are going to ignore this ruling like a Dazzler post.
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2019/02/25/most-americans-say-colleges-should-not-consider-race-or-ethnicity-in-admissions/
So you're saying that the people they elected don't give a fuck what they think?
"straw man" has an actual meaning apart from just being things that confuse you
I said I am cynical about the hand wringing; it may keep some Dem votes and it probably doesn't lose many Dem votes when the alternative is a right wing Republican
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Democrats want to end all merit based systems and replace them with arbitrary nonsense like equity and social justice. I'm not sure if they'll succeed completely, but a lot of damage has been done to public education and higher education. But as long as there's a 'right wing republican' bogeyman, that keeps the base placated.HHusky said:
really oldhardhat said:
How old are you? You always shift to straw man tactics, like a little child. Your 'topic' is that 'democrats' are against it. Yet today we've seen a bunch of crying, shrieking nonsense from the leaders of that party. You may be against it, and that's great. But everyone from Obama to shitheads like Inslee that actually represent the democrats are saying something else.HHusky said:
You decided to use that gem on subject we agree upon? Genius move!hardhat said:
Fixed that for you, boomer.HHusky said:
My takes are stupid.hardhat said:HHusky said:
Imagine the Babylon Bee getting the position of most Democrats wrong.Sledog said:
The insanity is over? I'm sure the lefty loons running the colleges are going to ignore this ruling like a Dazzler post.
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2019/02/25/most-americans-say-colleges-should-not-consider-race-or-ethnicity-in-admissions/
So you're saying that the people they elected don't give a fuck what they think?
"straw man" has an actual meaning apart from just being things that confuse you
I said I am cynical about the hand wringing; it may keep some Dem votes and it probably doesn't lose many Dem votes when the alternative is a right wing Republican -
I've already produced the polling that says you're wrong in this very thread. A large majority of Democrats oppose race-based admissions. In the past few years, voters in WA and CAL both passed laws intended to end them as well--and by large margins.hardhat said:
Democrats want to end all merit based systems and replace them with arbitrary nonsense like equity and social justice. I'm not sure if they'll succeed completely, but a lot of damage has been done to public education and higher education. But as long as there's a 'right wing republican' bogeyman, that keeps the base placated.HHusky said:
really oldhardhat said:
How old are you? You always shift to straw man tactics, like a little child. Your 'topic' is that 'democrats' are against it. Yet today we've seen a bunch of crying, shrieking nonsense from the leaders of that party. You may be against it, and that's great. But everyone from Obama to shitheads like Inslee that actually represent the democrats are saying something else.HHusky said:
You decided to use that gem on subject we agree upon? Genius move!hardhat said:
Fixed that for you, boomer.HHusky said:
My takes are stupid.hardhat said:HHusky said:
Imagine the Babylon Bee getting the position of most Democrats wrong.Sledog said:
The insanity is over? I'm sure the lefty loons running the colleges are going to ignore this ruling like a Dazzler post.
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2019/02/25/most-americans-say-colleges-should-not-consider-race-or-ethnicity-in-admissions/
So you're saying that the people they elected don't give a fuck what they think?
"straw man" has an actual meaning apart from just being things that confuse you
I said I am cynical about the hand wringing; it may keep some Dem votes and it probably doesn't lose many Dem votes when the alternative is a right wing Republican
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So she stands United with all of the other Fake Native Americans.hardhat said:'It worked great for me, I was able to pretend I was Native American'
Attended a commencement recently.
The first acknowledgement was that the ceremony was being held on stolen Native American land.
The second acknowledgement was that white supremacy was responsible for the theft and colonialism throughout the World.
Good Times! -
Georgia State had a 14-0 lead over the DAWGShardhat said:
You know what I'm wondering, is if any of them were allowed to vote?
Hang the banner -
His votes arehardhat said:
Fixed that for you, boomer.HHusky said:
My takes are stupid.hardhat said:HHusky said:
Imagine the Babylon Bee getting the position of most Democrats wrong.Sledog said:
The insanity is over? I'm sure the lefty loons running the colleges are going to ignore this ruling like a Dazzler post.
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2019/02/25/most-americans-say-colleges-should-not-consider-race-or-ethnicity-in-admissions/
So you're saying that the people they elected don't give a fuck what they think?
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/how-america-fell-out-of-love-with-affirmative-action/ar-AA1ddjGf?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=279d258ff56d4dbcb1a770e3d225b3bd&ei=12
Here, Harvard had levied a de facto “Asian tax.” Practically speaking, the school effectively mandated that Asian-American applicants score 140 points higher than white students, 270 points better than Latino students, and 450 points more than Black students.
For once, the high court is in sync with the American public. This is not Dobbs redux. A recent Economist/YouGov poll found that 65% of the U.S.—including 57% of Latinos and a plurality of Biden voters (46-44) and Blacks (47-38)—oppose race as an admissions criterion.
At the ballot box, Americans have repeatedly said “no” to racial preferences. California led the way in 1996. In 2006, Michiganders embraced the Michigan Civil Rights Initiative (MCRI), and amended the state’s constitution to bar preferential treatment based upon “race, sex, color, ethnicity, or national origin” in admissions, employment or public contracts.
Exit polls showed that nearly every demographic group backed the MCRI. Non-churchgoers, evangelicals, college graduates, and high school drop-outs all supported the measure. . . .
The Supreme Court just dropped a fig leaf and opportunity into the lap of Biden & Co., although they may not see it as such. Regardless, the status quo is no longer viable. Whether the party of FDR can meet the new reality, return to its roots and embrace class-based policies are now all open questions. The 2024 election may hang in the balance
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What I am talking about goes beyond that. It's not like you produced something new. If anything, it still makes the leaders of the democratic party seem out of touch with their base. More importantly, since you're old you have no idea of what is going on in public schools. But don't pretend you haven't heard democrats talk about equity and social justice in regards to more than just affirmative action.HHusky said:
I've already produced the polling that says you're wrong in this very thread. A large majority of Democrats oppose race-based admissions. In the past few years, voters in WA and CAL both passed laws intended to end them as well--and by large margins.hardhat said:
Democrats want to end all merit based systems and replace them with arbitrary nonsense like equity and social justice. I'm not sure if they'll succeed completely, but a lot of damage has been done to public education and higher education. But as long as there's a 'right wing republican' bogeyman, that keeps the base placated.HHusky said:
really oldhardhat said:
How old are you? You always shift to straw man tactics, like a little child. Your 'topic' is that 'democrats' are against it. Yet today we've seen a bunch of crying, shrieking nonsense from the leaders of that party. You may be against it, and that's great. But everyone from Obama to shitheads like Inslee that actually represent the democrats are saying something else.HHusky said:
You decided to use that gem on subject we agree upon? Genius move!hardhat said:
Fixed that for you, boomer.HHusky said:
My takes are stupid.hardhat said:HHusky said:
Imagine the Babylon Bee getting the position of most Democrats wrong.Sledog said:
The insanity is over? I'm sure the lefty loons running the colleges are going to ignore this ruling like a Dazzler post.
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2019/02/25/most-americans-say-colleges-should-not-consider-race-or-ethnicity-in-admissions/
So you're saying that the people they elected don't give a fuck what they think?
"straw man" has an actual meaning apart from just being things that confuse you
I said I am cynical about the hand wringing; it may keep some Dem votes and it probably doesn't lose many Dem votes when the alternative is a right wing Republican -
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To review
H is against affirmative action but voted for Hillary who would have nominated judges who would keep it.
I voted for Trump who nominated judges who decided against it.
H voted for Biden who nominated Jackson who basically said
It's unconstitutional but still
It's so unfair to say that H votes like an idiot -
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It's always about Trump with you Race.RaceBannon said:Thank you president Trump
Actually, this is a very good decision and long, long overdue. All it ever did was create a privileged class, and I've seen first hand how AA does the admitted and underqualified kid no favors. It did help my Lakeside-educated friend who needed no help get into Columbia. But, sure.
