Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.
Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.
Welcome to 2015 Hillary
Get some new material
Russia Russia Russia led to covid covid covid led to Zelensky lighting his country on fire. Allegedly
Maybe you and Vindman can get cocktails
2015 Hillary was grasping at straws. It was fake news
Russia actually invading their neighbors? Another Tuesday in world history
Not under Trump
If you weren't such a fucking blockhead you might get a clue
Vindman and his ilk attacked American democracy just like they accused Trump
I support America. Go suck Zelensky dick
It all fake news. Hello?
No shit. We agree on Trump.
If you werent such a blockhead, youd understand that sometimes you cant have constant wet dreams about Trump and realize that life goes on
So go ahead and reward the assholes who did it. Are you getting a cut or do you suck cock for free?
It's all fucking fake.
What is fucking fake about Russia being a constant menance to the world? Explain away that one...
The isnt the first rodeo
Ironic, because this describes you perfectly on this topic
Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.
Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.
Who has defended anything that Russia has done?
A good number of people in this thread
Provide a specific example. Sounds like there’s a lot to choose from so should be easy.
Acknowledging the realities of the situation as it stands is not defending anything. You refusing to do that is just fandom, not analysis.
Lots of "Russia had no choice, NATO is expanding" sob stories, without understanding why NATO exists in the first place
Lots of "bio weapon labs" takes to justify the invasion
Lots of "Ukraine is full of Nazis" takes because they have a few groups of paramilitary Neo Nazis like every other country, including Russia
All excuses the Russians themselves use to justfiy invasion and genocide.
No one but a select few buys it
Many on here think it’s an unwinnable situation as it stands. You think it can be done with an unlimited budget and timeline and that we should be spending money for punitive punishment.
Disagree.
Ive said several times this is peanuts to the US and it doesnt involve US troops
Hope this helps.
It doesn't.
Allowing Russia to continue to invade and bully their neighbors will cost FAR more in the long run.
And might actually involve US troops doing the fighting and dying
If we can supply Ukraine with older weapons and let them do the fighting against the Russian horde, why not?
This is what Bot and I have been saying
It sucks this happened, it sucks Biden and the Dems routinely have this shit happening because they dont take hardline stances, everything about it sucks. But the milk is spilled, and Russia is getting a lesson in fuck around and find out.
You are so delusional you called my picture of blown up Russian armour propaganda.
Ok they had the lesson now lets negotiate a damn end to this so innocents on both sides stop dying... this song describes it best...
As long as it isn't them or their kids. That's the clear moral view of a chickenhawk.
The real chickenhawks are the ones bending over backwards to make excuses for Russia
You know, the country who started this whole mess and has been killing, torturing, and raping civilians. Then deporting the surviving children to re education camps.
This is an evil regime. Chickenhawks think that appeasement is the proper response.
Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.
Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.
Welcome to 2015 Hillary
Get some new material
Russia Russia Russia led to covid covid covid led to Zelensky lighting his country on fire. Allegedly
Maybe you and Vindman can get cocktails
2015 Hillary was grasping at straws. It was fake news
Russia actually invading their neighbors? Another Tuesday in world history
Not under Trump
If you weren't such a fucking blockhead you might get a clue
Vindman and his ilk attacked American democracy just like they accused Trump
I support America. Go suck Zelensky dick
It all fake news. Hello?
No shit. We agree on Trump.
If you werent such a blockhead, youd understand that sometimes you cant have constant wet dreams about Trump and realize that life goes on
So go ahead and reward the assholes who did it. Are you getting a cut or do you suck cock for free?
It's all fucking fake.
What is fucking fake about Russia being a constant menance to the world? Explain away that one...
The isnt the first rodeo
Ironic, because this describes you perfectly on this topic
Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.
Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.
Who has defended anything that Russia has done?
A good number of people in this thread
Provide a specific example. Sounds like there’s a lot to choose from so should be easy.
Acknowledging the realities of the situation as it stands is not defending anything. You refusing to do that is just fandom, not analysis.
Lots of "Russia had no choice, NATO is expanding" sob stories, without understanding why NATO exists in the first place
Lots of "bio weapon labs" takes to justify the invasion
Lots of "Ukraine is full of Nazis" takes because they have a few groups of paramilitary Neo Nazis like every other country, including Russia
All excuses the Russians themselves use to justfiy invasion and genocide.
No one but a select few buys it
Many on here think it’s an unwinnable situation as it stands. You think it can be done with an unlimited budget and timeline and that we should be spending money for punitive punishment.
Disagree.
Ive said several times this is peanuts to the US and it doesnt involve US troops
Hope this helps.
It doesn't.
Allowing Russia to continue to invade and bully their neighbors will cost FAR more in the long run.
And might actually involve US troops doing the fighting and dying
If we can supply Ukraine with older weapons and let them do the fighting against the Russian horde, why not?
This is what Bot and I have been saying
It sucks this happened, it sucks Biden and the Dems routinely have this shit happening because they dont take hardline stances, everything about it sucks. But the milk is spilled, and Russia is getting a lesson in fuck around and find out.
You are so delusional you called my picture of blown up Russian armour propaganda.
Ok they had the lesson now lets negotiate a damn end to this so innocents on both sides stop dying... this song describes it best...
Just surrender the Rhineland comrade. It's the proper thing to do... for peace.
In 2022 Ukraine and Russia were making significant progress in negotiating an end to this War. The key was Russia pulling back and Ukraine renouncing NATO ambitions. Boris Johnson flew to Ukraine and blew it up. Why won't either you or PGOS address this?
Why does Russia have the right to dictate a sovereign nation's alliances under the threat of invasion and violence?
Use your big boy words.
That's not an answer to my question.
Ukraine was at the peace table with 15 points being hashed out for peace to happen.
So why did NATO keep dangling membership to Ukraine?
And why didn't Boris want peace instead of more War.
Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.
Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.
Welcome to 2015 Hillary
Get some new material
Russia Russia Russia led to covid covid covid led to Zelensky lighting his country on fire. Allegedly
Maybe you and Vindman can get cocktails
2015 Hillary was grasping at straws. It was fake news
Russia actually invading their neighbors? Another Tuesday in world history
Not under Trump
If you weren't such a fucking blockhead you might get a clue
Vindman and his ilk attacked American democracy just like they accused Trump
I support America. Go suck Zelensky dick
It all fake news. Hello?
No shit. We agree on Trump.
If you werent such a blockhead, youd understand that sometimes you cant have constant wet dreams about Trump and realize that life goes on
So go ahead and reward the assholes who did it. Are you getting a cut or do you suck cock for free?
It's all fucking fake.
What is fucking fake about Russia being a constant menance to the world? Explain away that one...
The isnt the first rodeo
Ironic, because this describes you perfectly on this topic
Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.
Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.
Who has defended anything that Russia has done?
A good number of people in this thread
Provide a specific example. Sounds like there’s a lot to choose from so should be easy.
Acknowledging the realities of the situation as it stands is not defending anything. You refusing to do that is just fandom, not analysis.
Lots of "Russia had no choice, NATO is expanding" sob stories, without understanding why NATO exists in the first place
Lots of "bio weapon labs" takes to justify the invasion
Lots of "Ukraine is full of Nazis" takes because they have a few groups of paramilitary Neo Nazis like every other country, including Russia
All excuses the Russians themselves use to justfiy invasion and genocide.
No one but a select few buys it
Many on here think it’s an unwinnable situation as it stands. You think it can be done with an unlimited budget and timeline and that we should be spending money for punitive punishment.
Disagree.
Ive said several times this is peanuts to the US and it doesnt involve US troops
Hope this helps.
It doesn't.
Allowing Russia to continue to invade and bully their neighbors will cost FAR more in the long run.
And might actually involve US troops doing the fighting and dying
If we can supply Ukraine with older weapons and let them do the fighting against the Russian horde, why not?
This is what Bot and I have been saying
It sucks this happened, it sucks Biden and the Dems routinely have this shit happening because they dont take hardline stances, everything about it sucks. But the milk is spilled, and Russia is getting a lesson in fuck around and find out.
You are so delusional you called my picture of blown up Russian armour propaganda.
Ok they had the lesson now lets negotiate a damn end to this so innocents on both sides stop dying... this song describes it best...
Just surrender the Rhineland comrade. It's the proper thing to do... for peace.
In 2022 Ukraine and Russia were making significant progress in negotiating an end to this War. The key was Russia pulling back and Ukraine renouncing NATO ambitions. Boris Johnson flew to Ukraine and blew it up. Why won't either you or PGOS address this?
Why does Russia have the right to dictate a sovereign nation's alliances under the threat of invasion and violence?
Use your big boy words.
Let’s say, for the sake of discussion, Mexico joined an alliance with a China or a Russia. Then let’s say that 3rd party decided to put weapons systems on our southern border.
How would you expect the US to respond? Would you support, say, South Africa saying the US has no right to dictate Mexico’s alliances?
Run me through the thought-tree there. TIA.
Pssssst, Whatever you do..
Don't mention the genocide of the Russian people in the Donbass and surrounding areas that has been going on and carried out by the Ukrainian puppet govt since the US led coup to remove a democratically elected president and replace him with someone the US wanted back in 2013-14.
Don't mention that part!
Complete horseshit
Are you getting this from the same source that told you Ukraine had destroyed over 3000 Russian tanks? Cause you poasted pics of said tanks. It's more like 1700-2300 range according to independent orgs that make it their business to provide intelligence on military capabilities. But what's 1000+ tanks when the Ukraine military is your source.
Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.
Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.
Welcome to 2015 Hillary
Get some new material
Russia Russia Russia led to covid covid covid led to Zelensky lighting his country on fire. Allegedly
Maybe you and Vindman can get cocktails
2015 Hillary was grasping at straws. It was fake news
Russia actually invading their neighbors? Another Tuesday in world history
Not under Trump
If you weren't such a fucking blockhead you might get a clue
Vindman and his ilk attacked American democracy just like they accused Trump
I support America. Go suck Zelensky dick
It all fake news. Hello?
No shit. We agree on Trump.
If you werent such a blockhead, youd understand that sometimes you cant have constant wet dreams about Trump and realize that life goes on
So go ahead and reward the assholes who did it. Are you getting a cut or do you suck cock for free?
It's all fucking fake.
What is fucking fake about Russia being a constant menance to the world? Explain away that one...
The isnt the first rodeo
Ironic, because this describes you perfectly on this topic
Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.
Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.
Who has defended anything that Russia has done?
A good number of people in this thread
Provide a specific example. Sounds like there’s a lot to choose from so should be easy.
Acknowledging the realities of the situation as it stands is not defending anything. You refusing to do that is just fandom, not analysis.
Lots of "Russia had no choice, NATO is expanding" sob stories, without understanding why NATO exists in the first place
Lots of "bio weapon labs" takes to justify the invasion
Lots of "Ukraine is full of Nazis" takes because they have a few groups of paramilitary Neo Nazis like every other country, including Russia
All excuses the Russians themselves use to justfiy invasion and genocide.
No one but a select few buys it
Many on here think it’s an unwinnable situation as it stands. You think it can be done with an unlimited budget and timeline and that we should be spending money for punitive punishment.
Disagree.
Ive said several times this is peanuts to the US and it doesnt involve US troops
Hope this helps.
It doesn't.
Allowing Russia to continue to invade and bully their neighbors will cost FAR more in the long run.
And might actually involve US troops doing the fighting and dying
If we can supply Ukraine with older weapons and let them do the fighting against the Russian horde, why not?
This is what Bot and I have been saying
It sucks this happened, it sucks Biden and the Dems routinely have this shit happening because they dont take hardline stances, everything about it sucks. But the milk is spilled, and Russia is getting a lesson in fuck around and find out.
You are so delusional you called my picture of blown up Russian armour propaganda.
Ok they had the lesson now lets negotiate a damn end to this so innocents on both sides stop dying... this song describes it best...
Just surrender the Rhineland comrade. It's the proper thing to do... for peace.
In 2022 Ukraine and Russia were making significant progress in negotiating an end to this War. The key was Russia pulling back and Ukraine renouncing NATO ambitions. Boris Johnson flew to Ukraine and blew it up. Why won't either you or PGOS address this?
Why does Russia have the right to dictate a sovereign nation's alliances under the threat of invasion and violence?
Use your big boy words.
Let’s say, for the sake of discussion, Mexico joined an alliance with a China or a Russia. Then let’s say that 3rd party decided to put weapons systems on our southern border.
How would you expect the US to respond? Would you support, say, South Africa saying the US has no right to dictate Mexico’s alliances?
Run me through the thought-tree there. TIA.
This is what about ism. Hth.
But let's play the game. Why would Mexico want to align itself with either Russia or ChYnA?
I dunno - but playing your historical equivalence style - you're familiar with the Zimmermann Telegram.
Let's think about this though I know it's hard to differentiate, why is NATO more appealing than CSTO? No googling you leftards!
I"m older than google history knowledge.
Didn't live it like @RaceBannon but know enough about the Zimmermann Telegram to know that foreign alliances with Mexico are a thing.
And let's not ignore Chinese current interests in Central and South America which may or may not be benign.
The US would be reacting exactly the same as Putin is if China started dropping bases in Colombia, Ecuador and Nicaragua. Though with the current clown-in-chief, dumbass might think that cause for an ice cream break.
Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.
Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.
Welcome to 2015 Hillary
Get some new material
Russia Russia Russia led to covid covid covid led to Zelensky lighting his country on fire. Allegedly
Maybe you and Vindman can get cocktails
2015 Hillary was grasping at straws. It was fake news
Russia actually invading their neighbors? Another Tuesday in world history
Not under Trump
If you weren't such a fucking blockhead you might get a clue
Vindman and his ilk attacked American democracy just like they accused Trump
I support America. Go suck Zelensky dick
It all fake news. Hello?
No shit. We agree on Trump.
If you werent such a blockhead, youd understand that sometimes you cant have constant wet dreams about Trump and realize that life goes on
So go ahead and reward the assholes who did it. Are you getting a cut or do you suck cock for free?
It's all fucking fake.
What is fucking fake about Russia being a constant menance to the world? Explain away that one...
The isnt the first rodeo
Ironic, because this describes you perfectly on this topic
Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.
Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.
Who has defended anything that Russia has done?
A good number of people in this thread
Provide a specific example. Sounds like there’s a lot to choose from so should be easy.
Acknowledging the realities of the situation as it stands is not defending anything. You refusing to do that is just fandom, not analysis.
Lots of "Russia had no choice, NATO is expanding" sob stories, without understanding why NATO exists in the first place
Lots of "bio weapon labs" takes to justify the invasion
Lots of "Ukraine is full of Nazis" takes because they have a few groups of paramilitary Neo Nazis like every other country, including Russia
All excuses the Russians themselves use to justfiy invasion and genocide.
No one but a select few buys it
Many on here think it’s an unwinnable situation as it stands. You think it can be done with an unlimited budget and timeline and that we should be spending money for punitive punishment.
Disagree.
Ive said several times this is peanuts to the US and it doesnt involve US troops
Hope this helps.
It doesn't.
Allowing Russia to continue to invade and bully their neighbors will cost FAR more in the long run.
And might actually involve US troops doing the fighting and dying
If we can supply Ukraine with older weapons and let them do the fighting against the Russian horde, why not?
This is what Bot and I have been saying
It sucks this happened, it sucks Biden and the Dems routinely have this shit happening because they dont take hardline stances, everything about it sucks. But the milk is spilled, and Russia is getting a lesson in fuck around and find out.
You are so delusional you called my picture of blown up Russian armour propaganda.
Ok they had the lesson now lets negotiate a damn end to this so innocents on both sides stop dying... this song describes it best...
Just surrender the Rhineland comrade. It's the proper thing to do... for peace.
In 2022 Ukraine and Russia were making significant progress in negotiating an end to this War. The key was Russia pulling back and Ukraine renouncing NATO ambitions. Boris Johnson flew to Ukraine and blew it up. Why won't either you or PGOS address this?
Why does Russia have the right to dictate a sovereign nation's alliances under the threat of invasion and violence?
Use your big boy words.
Let’s say, for the sake of discussion, Mexico joined an alliance with a China or a Russia. Then let’s say that 3rd party decided to put weapons systems on our southern border.
How would you expect the US to respond? Would you support, say, South Africa saying the US has no right to dictate Mexico’s alliances?
Run me through the thought-tree there. TIA.
This is what about ism. Hth.
But let's play the game. Why would Mexico want to align itself with either Russia or ChYnA?
I dunno - but playing your historical equivalence style - you're familiar with the Zimmermann Telegram.
Let's think about this though I know it's hard to differentiate, why is NATO more appealing than CSTO? No googling you leftards!
I"m older than google history knowledge.
Didn't live it like @RaceBannon but know enough about the Zimmermann Telegram to know that foreign alliances with Mexico are a thing.
And let's not ignore Chinese current interests in Central and South America which may or may not be benign.
The US would be reacting exactly the same as Putin is if China started dropping bases in Colombia, Ecuador and Nicaragua. Though with the current clown-in-chief, dumbass might think that cause for an ice cream break.
Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.
Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.
Welcome to 2015 Hillary
Get some new material
Russia Russia Russia led to covid covid covid led to Zelensky lighting his country on fire. Allegedly
Maybe you and Vindman can get cocktails
2015 Hillary was grasping at straws. It was fake news
Russia actually invading their neighbors? Another Tuesday in world history
Not under Trump
If you weren't such a fucking blockhead you might get a clue
Vindman and his ilk attacked American democracy just like they accused Trump
I support America. Go suck Zelensky dick
It all fake news. Hello?
No shit. We agree on Trump.
If you werent such a blockhead, youd understand that sometimes you cant have constant wet dreams about Trump and realize that life goes on
So go ahead and reward the assholes who did it. Are you getting a cut or do you suck cock for free?
It's all fucking fake.
What is fucking fake about Russia being a constant menance to the world? Explain away that one...
The isnt the first rodeo
Ironic, because this describes you perfectly on this topic
Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.
Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.
Who has defended anything that Russia has done?
A good number of people in this thread
Provide a specific example. Sounds like there’s a lot to choose from so should be easy.
Acknowledging the realities of the situation as it stands is not defending anything. You refusing to do that is just fandom, not analysis.
Lots of "Russia had no choice, NATO is expanding" sob stories, without understanding why NATO exists in the first place
Lots of "bio weapon labs" takes to justify the invasion
Lots of "Ukraine is full of Nazis" takes because they have a few groups of paramilitary Neo Nazis like every other country, including Russia
All excuses the Russians themselves use to justfiy invasion and genocide.
No one but a select few buys it
Many on here think it’s an unwinnable situation as it stands. You think it can be done with an unlimited budget and timeline and that we should be spending money for punitive punishment.
Disagree.
Ive said several times this is peanuts to the US and it doesnt involve US troops
Hope this helps.
It doesn't.
Allowing Russia to continue to invade and bully their neighbors will cost FAR more in the long run.
And might actually involve US troops doing the fighting and dying
If we can supply Ukraine with older weapons and let them do the fighting against the Russian horde, why not?
This is what Bot and I have been saying
It sucks this happened, it sucks Biden and the Dems routinely have this shit happening because they dont take hardline stances, everything about it sucks. But the milk is spilled, and Russia is getting a lesson in fuck around and find out.
You are so delusional you called my picture of blown up Russian armour propaganda.
Ok they had the lesson now lets negotiate a damn end to this so innocents on both sides stop dying... this song describes it best...
Just surrender the Rhineland comrade. It's the proper thing to do... for peace.
In 2022 Ukraine and Russia were making significant progress in negotiating an end to this War. The key was Russia pulling back and Ukraine renouncing NATO ambitions. Boris Johnson flew to Ukraine and blew it up. Why won't either you or PGOS address this?
Why does Russia have the right to dictate a sovereign nation's alliances under the threat of invasion and violence?
Use your big boy words.
Let’s say, for the sake of discussion, Mexico joined an alliance with a China or a Russia. Then let’s say that 3rd party decided to put weapons systems on our southern border.
How would you expect the US to respond? Would you support, say, South Africa saying the US has no right to dictate Mexico’s alliances?
Run me through the thought-tree there. TIA.
This is what about ism. Hth.
But let's play the game. Why would Mexico want to align itself with either Russia or ChYnA?
I dunno - but playing your historical equivalence style - you're familiar with the Zimmermann Telegram.
Let's think about this though I know it's hard to differentiate, why is NATO more appealing than CSTO? No googling you leftards!
I"m older than google history knowledge.
Didn't live it like @RaceBannon but know enough about the Zimmermann Telegram to know that foreign alliances with Mexico are a thing.
And let's not ignore Chinese current interests in Central and South America which may or may not be benign.
The US would be reacting exactly the same as Putin is if China started dropping bases in Colombia, Ecuador and Nicaragua. Though with the current clown-in-chief, dumbass might think that cause for an ice cream break.
Don't mention the genocide of the Russian people in the Donbass and surrounding areas that has been going on 10 years now and carried out by the Ukrainian puppet govt since the US led coup to remove a democratically elected president and replace him with someone the US wanted back in 2013-14.
Don't mention that part!
UN 3rd party found 7 deaths from mines/shelling per year in the region on average from 2014-2020.
Good thing Russia invaded to save all those people in the Donbass!
As mentioned elsewhere, maybe you've Googled back to 2014. I've been following this conflict since the Orange revolution. Go Google that.
You assume too much about what I do or do not know about Ukraine.
My family adopted 2 little girls from an orphanage in Ukraine before the "Orange"
We have followed closely and do not take the word of the MSM Media or the UN propaganda.
There is more going on than what you have been manipulated into believing.
Im sure there is nothing I can say to make you see the real story...,and you will probably have something else you think you can point too to win this discussion.... but the truth is going to come out and all those people waving their little yellow and blue flags aren't going to like it.
Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.
Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.
Welcome to 2015 Hillary
Get some new material
Russia Russia Russia led to covid covid covid led to Zelensky lighting his country on fire. Allegedly
Maybe you and Vindman can get cocktails
2015 Hillary was grasping at straws. It was fake news
Russia actually invading their neighbors? Another Tuesday in world history
Not under Trump
If you weren't such a fucking blockhead you might get a clue
Vindman and his ilk attacked American democracy just like they accused Trump
I support America. Go suck Zelensky dick
It all fake news. Hello?
No shit. We agree on Trump.
If you werent such a blockhead, youd understand that sometimes you cant have constant wet dreams about Trump and realize that life goes on
So go ahead and reward the assholes who did it. Are you getting a cut or do you suck cock for free?
It's all fucking fake.
What is fucking fake about Russia being a constant menance to the world? Explain away that one...
The isnt the first rodeo
Ironic, because this describes you perfectly on this topic
Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.
Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.
Who has defended anything that Russia has done?
A good number of people in this thread
Provide a specific example. Sounds like there’s a lot to choose from so should be easy.
Acknowledging the realities of the situation as it stands is not defending anything. You refusing to do that is just fandom, not analysis.
Lots of "Russia had no choice, NATO is expanding" sob stories, without understanding why NATO exists in the first place
Lots of "bio weapon labs" takes to justify the invasion
Lots of "Ukraine is full of Nazis" takes because they have a few groups of paramilitary Neo Nazis like every other country, including Russia
All excuses the Russians themselves use to justfiy invasion and genocide.
No one but a select few buys it
Many on here think it’s an unwinnable situation as it stands. You think it can be done with an unlimited budget and timeline and that we should be spending money for punitive punishment.
Disagree.
Ive said several times this is peanuts to the US and it doesnt involve US troops
Hope this helps.
It doesn't.
Allowing Russia to continue to invade and bully their neighbors will cost FAR more in the long run.
And might actually involve US troops doing the fighting and dying
If we can supply Ukraine with older weapons and let them do the fighting against the Russian horde, why not?
This is what Bot and I have been saying
It sucks this happened, it sucks Biden and the Dems routinely have this shit happening because they dont take hardline stances, everything about it sucks. But the milk is spilled, and Russia is getting a lesson in fuck around and find out.
You are so delusional you called my picture of blown up Russian armour propaganda.
Ok they had the lesson now lets negotiate a damn end to this so innocents on both sides stop dying... this song describes it best...
Don't mention the genocide of the Russian people in the Donbass and surrounding areas that has been going on 10 years now and carried out by the Ukrainian puppet govt since the US led coup to remove a democratically elected president and replace him with someone the US wanted back in 2013-14.
Don't mention that part!
UN 3rd party found 7 deaths from mines/shelling per year in the region on average from 2014-2020.
Good thing Russia invaded to save all those people in the Donbass!
As mentioned elsewhere, maybe you've Googled back to 2014. I've been following this conflict since the Orange revolution. Go Google that.
You assume too much about what I do or do not know about Ukraine.
My family adopted 2 little girls from an orphanage in Ukraine before the "Orange"
We have followed closely and do not take the word of the MSM Media or the UN propaganda.
There is more going on than what you have been manipulated into believing.
Im sure there is nothing I can say to make you see the real story...,and you will probably have something else you think you can point too to win this discussion.... but the truth is going to come out and all those people waving their little yellow and blue flags aren't going to like it.
Like Oregon football in '94, Ukraine started in 2022.
Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.
Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.
Welcome to 2015 Hillary
Get some new material
Russia Russia Russia led to covid covid covid led to Zelensky lighting his country on fire. Allegedly
Maybe you and Vindman can get cocktails
2015 Hillary was grasping at straws. It was fake news
Russia actually invading their neighbors? Another Tuesday in world history
Not under Trump
If you weren't such a fucking blockhead you might get a clue
Vindman and his ilk attacked American democracy just like they accused Trump
I support America. Go suck Zelensky dick
It all fake news. Hello?
No shit. We agree on Trump.
If you werent such a blockhead, youd understand that sometimes you cant have constant wet dreams about Trump and realize that life goes on
So go ahead and reward the assholes who did it. Are you getting a cut or do you suck cock for free?
It's all fucking fake.
What is fucking fake about Russia being a constant menance to the world? Explain away that one...
The isnt the first rodeo
Ironic, because this describes you perfectly on this topic
Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.
Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.
Who has defended anything that Russia has done?
A good number of people in this thread
Provide a specific example. Sounds like there’s a lot to choose from so should be easy.
Acknowledging the realities of the situation as it stands is not defending anything. You refusing to do that is just fandom, not analysis.
Lots of "Russia had no choice, NATO is expanding" sob stories, without understanding why NATO exists in the first place
Lots of "bio weapon labs" takes to justify the invasion
Lots of "Ukraine is full of Nazis" takes because they have a few groups of paramilitary Neo Nazis like every other country, including Russia
All excuses the Russians themselves use to justfiy invasion and genocide.
No one but a select few buys it
Many on here think it’s an unwinnable situation as it stands. You think it can be done with an unlimited budget and timeline and that we should be spending money for punitive punishment.
Disagree.
Ive said several times this is peanuts to the US and it doesnt involve US troops
Hope this helps.
It doesn't.
Allowing Russia to continue to invade and bully their neighbors will cost FAR more in the long run.
And might actually involve US troops doing the fighting and dying
If we can supply Ukraine with older weapons and let them do the fighting against the Russian horde, why not?
This is what Bot and I have been saying
It sucks this happened, it sucks Biden and the Dems routinely have this shit happening because they dont take hardline stances, everything about it sucks. But the milk is spilled, and Russia is getting a lesson in fuck around and find out.
You are so delusional you called my picture of blown up Russian armour propaganda.
Ok they had the lesson now lets negotiate a damn end to this so innocents on both sides stop dying... this song describes it best...
Just surrender the Rhineland comrade. It's the proper thing to do... for peace.
In 2022 Ukraine and Russia were making significant progress in negotiating an end to this War. The key was Russia pulling back and Ukraine renouncing NATO ambitions. Boris Johnson flew to Ukraine and blew it up. Why won't either you or PGOS address this?
Why does Russia have the right to dictate a sovereign nation's alliances under the threat of invasion and violence?
Use your big boy words.
Let’s say, for the sake of discussion, Mexico joined an alliance with a China or a Russia. Then let’s say that 3rd party decided to put weapons systems on our southern border.
How would you expect the US to respond? Would you support, say, South Africa saying the US has no right to dictate Mexico’s alliances?
Run me through the thought-tree there. TIA.
Pssssst, Whatever you do..
Don't mention the genocide of the Russian people in the Donbass and surrounding areas that has been going on and carried out by the Ukrainian puppet govt since the US led coup to remove a democratically elected president and replace him with someone the US wanted back in 2013-14.
Don't mention that part!
Complete horseshit
Are you getting this from the same source that told you Ukraine had destroyed over 3000 Russian tanks? Cause you poasted pics of said tanks. It's more like 1700-2300 range according to independent orgs that make it their business to provide intelligence on military capabilities. But what's 1000+ tanks when the Ukraine military is your source.
Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.
Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.
Welcome to 2015 Hillary
Get some new material
Russia Russia Russia led to covid covid covid led to Zelensky lighting his country on fire. Allegedly
Maybe you and Vindman can get cocktails
2015 Hillary was grasping at straws. It was fake news
Russia actually invading their neighbors? Another Tuesday in world history
Not under Trump
If you weren't such a fucking blockhead you might get a clue
Vindman and his ilk attacked American democracy just like they accused Trump
I support America. Go suck Zelensky dick
It all fake news. Hello?
No shit. We agree on Trump.
If you werent such a blockhead, youd understand that sometimes you cant have constant wet dreams about Trump and realize that life goes on
So go ahead and reward the assholes who did it. Are you getting a cut or do you suck cock for free?
It's all fucking fake.
What is fucking fake about Russia being a constant menance to the world? Explain away that one...
The isnt the first rodeo
Ironic, because this describes you perfectly on this topic
Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.
Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.
Who has defended anything that Russia has done?
A good number of people in this thread
Provide a specific example. Sounds like there’s a lot to choose from so should be easy.
Acknowledging the realities of the situation as it stands is not defending anything. You refusing to do that is just fandom, not analysis.
Lots of "Russia had no choice, NATO is expanding" sob stories, without understanding why NATO exists in the first place
Lots of "bio weapon labs" takes to justify the invasion
Lots of "Ukraine is full of Nazis" takes because they have a few groups of paramilitary Neo Nazis like every other country, including Russia
All excuses the Russians themselves use to justfiy invasion and genocide.
No one but a select few buys it
Many on here think it’s an unwinnable situation as it stands. You think it can be done with an unlimited budget and timeline and that we should be spending money for punitive punishment.
Disagree.
Ive said several times this is peanuts to the US and it doesnt involve US troops
Hope this helps.
It doesn't.
Allowing Russia to continue to invade and bully their neighbors will cost FAR more in the long run.
And might actually involve US troops doing the fighting and dying
If we can supply Ukraine with older weapons and let them do the fighting against the Russian horde, why not?
This is what Bot and I have been saying
It sucks this happened, it sucks Biden and the Dems routinely have this shit happening because they dont take hardline stances, everything about it sucks. But the milk is spilled, and Russia is getting a lesson in fuck around and find out.
You are so delusional you called my picture of blown up Russian armour propaganda.
Ok they had the lesson now lets negotiate a damn end to this so innocents on both sides stop dying... this song describes it best...
As long as it isn't them or their kids. That's the clear moral view of a chickenhawk.
The real chickenhawks are the ones bending over backwards to make excuses for Russia
You know, the country who started this whole mess and has been killing, torturing, and raping civilians. Then deporting the surviving children to re education camps.
This is an evil regime. Chickenhawks think that appeasement is the proper response.
Russia and USSR is always evil... in a hot war mistakes happen. And innocents die... what is wrong with a negotiated settlement?
Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.
Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.
Welcome to 2015 Hillary
Get some new material
Russia Russia Russia led to covid covid covid led to Zelensky lighting his country on fire. Allegedly
Maybe you and Vindman can get cocktails
2015 Hillary was grasping at straws. It was fake news
Russia actually invading their neighbors? Another Tuesday in world history
Not under Trump
If you weren't such a fucking blockhead you might get a clue
Vindman and his ilk attacked American democracy just like they accused Trump
I support America. Go suck Zelensky dick
It all fake news. Hello?
No shit. We agree on Trump.
If you werent such a blockhead, youd understand that sometimes you cant have constant wet dreams about Trump and realize that life goes on
So go ahead and reward the assholes who did it. Are you getting a cut or do you suck cock for free?
It's all fucking fake.
What is fucking fake about Russia being a constant menance to the world? Explain away that one...
The isnt the first rodeo
Ironic, because this describes you perfectly on this topic
Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.
Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.
Who has defended anything that Russia has done?
A good number of people in this thread
Provide a specific example. Sounds like there’s a lot to choose from so should be easy.
Acknowledging the realities of the situation as it stands is not defending anything. You refusing to do that is just fandom, not analysis.
Lots of "Russia had no choice, NATO is expanding" sob stories, without understanding why NATO exists in the first place
Lots of "bio weapon labs" takes to justify the invasion
Lots of "Ukraine is full of Nazis" takes because they have a few groups of paramilitary Neo Nazis like every other country, including Russia
All excuses the Russians themselves use to justfiy invasion and genocide.
No one but a select few buys it
Many on here think it’s an unwinnable situation as it stands. You think it can be done with an unlimited budget and timeline and that we should be spending money for punitive punishment.
Disagree.
Ive said several times this is peanuts to the US and it doesnt involve US troops
Hope this helps.
It doesn't.
Allowing Russia to continue to invade and bully their neighbors will cost FAR more in the long run.
And might actually involve US troops doing the fighting and dying
If we can supply Ukraine with older weapons and let them do the fighting against the Russian horde, why not?
This is what Bot and I have been saying
It sucks this happened, it sucks Biden and the Dems routinely have this shit happening because they dont take hardline stances, everything about it sucks. But the milk is spilled, and Russia is getting a lesson in fuck around and find out.
You are so delusional you called my picture of blown up Russian armour propaganda.
Ok they had the lesson now lets negotiate a damn end to this so innocents on both sides stop dying... this song describes it best...
Just surrender the Rhineland comrade. It's the proper thing to do... for peace.
In 2022 Ukraine and Russia were making significant progress in negotiating an end to this War. The key was Russia pulling back and Ukraine renouncing NATO ambitions. Boris Johnson flew to Ukraine and blew it up. Why won't either you or PGOS address this?
Why does Russia have the right to dictate a sovereign nation's alliances under the threat of invasion and violence?
Use your big boy words.
Let’s say, for the sake of discussion, Mexico joined an alliance with a China or a Russia. Then let’s say that 3rd party decided to put weapons systems on our southern border.
How would you expect the US to respond? Would you support, say, South Africa saying the US has no right to dictate Mexico’s alliances?
Run me through the thought-tree there. TIA.
Pssssst, Whatever you do..
Don't mention the genocide of the Russian people in the Donbass and surrounding areas that has been going on and carried out by the Ukrainian puppet govt since the US led coup to remove a democratically elected president and replace him with someone the US wanted back in 2013-14.
Don't mention that part!
Complete horseshit
Are you getting this from the same source that told you Ukraine had destroyed over 3000 Russian tanks? Cause you poasted pics of said tanks. It's more like 1700-2300 range according to independent orgs that make it their business to provide intelligence on military capabilities. But what's 1000+ tanks when the Ukraine military is your source.
Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.
Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.
Welcome to 2015 Hillary
Get some new material
Russia Russia Russia led to covid covid covid led to Zelensky lighting his country on fire. Allegedly
Maybe you and Vindman can get cocktails
2015 Hillary was grasping at straws. It was fake news
Russia actually invading their neighbors? Another Tuesday in world history
Not under Trump
If you weren't such a fucking blockhead you might get a clue
Vindman and his ilk attacked American democracy just like they accused Trump
I support America. Go suck Zelensky dick
It all fake news. Hello?
No shit. We agree on Trump.
If you werent such a blockhead, youd understand that sometimes you cant have constant wet dreams about Trump and realize that life goes on
So go ahead and reward the assholes who did it. Are you getting a cut or do you suck cock for free?
It's all fucking fake.
What is fucking fake about Russia being a constant menance to the world? Explain away that one...
The isnt the first rodeo
Ironic, because this describes you perfectly on this topic
Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.
Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.
Who has defended anything that Russia has done?
A good number of people in this thread
Provide a specific example. Sounds like there’s a lot to choose from so should be easy.
Acknowledging the realities of the situation as it stands is not defending anything. You refusing to do that is just fandom, not analysis.
Lots of "Russia had no choice, NATO is expanding" sob stories, without understanding why NATO exists in the first place
Lots of "bio weapon labs" takes to justify the invasion
Lots of "Ukraine is full of Nazis" takes because they have a few groups of paramilitary Neo Nazis like every other country, including Russia
All excuses the Russians themselves use to justfiy invasion and genocide.
No one but a select few buys it
Many on here think it’s an unwinnable situation as it stands. You think it can be done with an unlimited budget and timeline and that we should be spending money for punitive punishment.
Disagree.
Ive said several times this is peanuts to the US and it doesnt involve US troops
Hope this helps.
It doesn't.
Allowing Russia to continue to invade and bully their neighbors will cost FAR more in the long run.
And might actually involve US troops doing the fighting and dying
If we can supply Ukraine with older weapons and let them do the fighting against the Russian horde, why not?
This is what Bot and I have been saying
It sucks this happened, it sucks Biden and the Dems routinely have this shit happening because they dont take hardline stances, everything about it sucks. But the milk is spilled, and Russia is getting a lesson in fuck around and find out.
You are so delusional you called my picture of blown up Russian armour propaganda.
Ok they had the lesson now lets negotiate a damn end to this so innocents on both sides stop dying... this song describes it best...
As long as it isn't them or their kids. That's the clear moral view of a chickenhawk.
The real chickenhawks are the ones bending over backwards to make excuses for Russia
You know, the country who started this whole mess and has been killing, torturing, and raping civilians. Then deporting the surviving children to re education camps.
This is an evil regime. Chickenhawks think that appeasement is the proper response.
You need to get off the "making excuses" for Russia stuff. It makes you look fucking stupid. "Putin and Russia are evil." No shit man like none of us here have been around long enough to know that.
You keep talking about raping, torture, killing of civilians as I talk about getting to the negotiating table and making peace to end it. But I'm the appeaser and Putin cocksucker? WTF is wrong with you?
Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.
Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.
Welcome to 2015 Hillary
Get some new material
Russia Russia Russia led to covid covid covid led to Zelensky lighting his country on fire. Allegedly
Maybe you and Vindman can get cocktails
2015 Hillary was grasping at straws. It was fake news
Russia actually invading their neighbors? Another Tuesday in world history
Not under Trump
If you weren't such a fucking blockhead you might get a clue
Vindman and his ilk attacked American democracy just like they accused Trump
I support America. Go suck Zelensky dick
It all fake news. Hello?
No shit. We agree on Trump.
If you werent such a blockhead, youd understand that sometimes you cant have constant wet dreams about Trump and realize that life goes on
So go ahead and reward the assholes who did it. Are you getting a cut or do you suck cock for free?
It's all fucking fake.
What is fucking fake about Russia being a constant menance to the world? Explain away that one...
The isnt the first rodeo
Ironic, because this describes you perfectly on this topic
Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.
Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.
Who has defended anything that Russia has done?
A good number of people in this thread
Provide a specific example. Sounds like there’s a lot to choose from so should be easy.
Acknowledging the realities of the situation as it stands is not defending anything. You refusing to do that is just fandom, not analysis.
Lots of "Russia had no choice, NATO is expanding" sob stories, without understanding why NATO exists in the first place
Lots of "bio weapon labs" takes to justify the invasion
Lots of "Ukraine is full of Nazis" takes because they have a few groups of paramilitary Neo Nazis like every other country, including Russia
All excuses the Russians themselves use to justfiy invasion and genocide.
No one but a select few buys it
Many on here think it’s an unwinnable situation as it stands. You think it can be done with an unlimited budget and timeline and that we should be spending money for punitive punishment.
Disagree.
Ive said several times this is peanuts to the US and it doesnt involve US troops
Hope this helps.
It doesn't.
Allowing Russia to continue to invade and bully their neighbors will cost FAR more in the long run.
And might actually involve US troops doing the fighting and dying
If we can supply Ukraine with older weapons and let them do the fighting against the Russian horde, why not?
This is what Bot and I have been saying
It sucks this happened, it sucks Biden and the Dems routinely have this shit happening because they dont take hardline stances, everything about it sucks. But the milk is spilled, and Russia is getting a lesson in fuck around and find out.
You are so delusional you called my picture of blown up Russian armour propaganda.
Ok they had the lesson now lets negotiate a damn end to this so innocents on both sides stop dying... this song describes it best...
As long as it isn't them or their kids. That's the clear moral view of a chickenhawk.
The real chickenhawks are the ones bending over backwards to make excuses for Russia
You know, the country who started this whole mess and has been killing, torturing, and raping civilians. Then deporting the surviving children to re education camps.
This is an evil regime. Chickenhawks think that appeasement is the proper response.
You need to get off the "making excuses" for Russia stuff. It makes you look fucking stupid. "Putin and Russia are evil." No shit man like none of us here have been around long enough to know that.
You keep talking about raping, torture, killing of civilians as I talk about getting to the negotiating table and making peace to end it. But I'm the appeaser and Putin cocksucker? WTF is wrong with you?
Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.
Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.
Welcome to 2015 Hillary
Get some new material
Russia Russia Russia led to covid covid covid led to Zelensky lighting his country on fire. Allegedly
Maybe you and Vindman can get cocktails
2015 Hillary was grasping at straws. It was fake news
Russia actually invading their neighbors? Another Tuesday in world history
Not under Trump
If you weren't such a fucking blockhead you might get a clue
Vindman and his ilk attacked American democracy just like they accused Trump
I support America. Go suck Zelensky dick
It all fake news. Hello?
No shit. We agree on Trump.
If you werent such a blockhead, youd understand that sometimes you cant have constant wet dreams about Trump and realize that life goes on
So go ahead and reward the assholes who did it. Are you getting a cut or do you suck cock for free?
It's all fucking fake.
What is fucking fake about Russia being a constant menance to the world? Explain away that one...
The isnt the first rodeo
Ironic, because this describes you perfectly on this topic
Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.
Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.
Who has defended anything that Russia has done?
A good number of people in this thread
Provide a specific example. Sounds like there’s a lot to choose from so should be easy.
Acknowledging the realities of the situation as it stands is not defending anything. You refusing to do that is just fandom, not analysis.
Lots of "Russia had no choice, NATO is expanding" sob stories, without understanding why NATO exists in the first place
Lots of "bio weapon labs" takes to justify the invasion
Lots of "Ukraine is full of Nazis" takes because they have a few groups of paramilitary Neo Nazis like every other country, including Russia
All excuses the Russians themselves use to justfiy invasion and genocide.
No one but a select few buys it
Many on here think it’s an unwinnable situation as it stands. You think it can be done with an unlimited budget and timeline and that we should be spending money for punitive punishment.
Disagree.
Ive said several times this is peanuts to the US and it doesnt involve US troops
Hope this helps.
It doesn't.
Allowing Russia to continue to invade and bully their neighbors will cost FAR more in the long run.
And might actually involve US troops doing the fighting and dying
If we can supply Ukraine with older weapons and let them do the fighting against the Russian horde, why not?
This is what Bot and I have been saying
It sucks this happened, it sucks Biden and the Dems routinely have this shit happening because they dont take hardline stances, everything about it sucks. But the milk is spilled, and Russia is getting a lesson in fuck around and find out.
You are so delusional you called my picture of blown up Russian armour propaganda.
Ok they had the lesson now lets negotiate a damn end to this so innocents on both sides stop dying... this song describes it best...
As long as it isn't them or their kids. That's the clear moral view of a chickenhawk.
The real chickenhawks are the ones bending over backwards to make excuses for Russia
You know, the country who started this whole mess and has been killing, torturing, and raping civilians. Then deporting the surviving children to re education camps.
This is an evil regime. Chickenhawks think that appeasement is the proper response.
You need to get off the "making excuses" for Russia stuff. It makes you look fucking stupid. "Putin and Russia are evil." No shit man like none of us here have been around long enough to know that.
You keep talking about raping, torture, killing of civilians as I talk about getting to the negotiating table and making peace to end it. But I'm the appeaser and Putin cocksucker? WTF is wrong with you?
Ukraine is about to launch a major offensive with new and improved weapons versus what they have been using previously. They are in a position of strength here, and if they want to keep fighting versus appeasing the tyrannical regime that has raped their country, that is their call. I support their right to do that.
You, and other, want to reward the aggressor with concessions and negotiations.
Don't mention the genocide of the Russian people in the Donbass and surrounding areas that has been going on 10 years now and carried out by the Ukrainian puppet govt since the US led coup to remove a democratically elected president and replace him with someone the US wanted back in 2013-14.
Don't mention that part!
UN 3rd party found 7 deaths from mines/shelling per year in the region on average from 2014-2020.
Good thing Russia invaded to save all those people in the Donbass!
As mentioned elsewhere, maybe you've Googled back to 2014. I've been following this conflict since the Orange revolution. Go Google that.
You assume too much about what I do or do not know about Ukraine.
My family adopted 2 little girls from an orphanage in Ukraine before the "Orange"
We have followed closely and do not take the word of the MSM Media or the UN propaganda.
There is more going on than what you have been manipulated into believing.
Im sure there is nothing I can say to make you see the real story...,and you will probably have something else you think you can point too to win this discussion.... but the truth is going to come out and all those people waving their little yellow and blue flags aren't going to like it.
Like Oregon football in '94, Ukraine started in 2022.
Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.
Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.
Welcome to 2015 Hillary
Get some new material
Russia Russia Russia led to covid covid covid led to Zelensky lighting his country on fire. Allegedly
Maybe you and Vindman can get cocktails
2015 Hillary was grasping at straws. It was fake news
Russia actually invading their neighbors? Another Tuesday in world history
Not under Trump
If you weren't such a fucking blockhead you might get a clue
Vindman and his ilk attacked American democracy just like they accused Trump
I support America. Go suck Zelensky dick
It all fake news. Hello?
No shit. We agree on Trump.
If you werent such a blockhead, youd understand that sometimes you cant have constant wet dreams about Trump and realize that life goes on
So go ahead and reward the assholes who did it. Are you getting a cut or do you suck cock for free?
It's all fucking fake.
What is fucking fake about Russia being a constant menance to the world? Explain away that one...
The isnt the first rodeo
Ironic, because this describes you perfectly on this topic
Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.
Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.
Who has defended anything that Russia has done?
A good number of people in this thread
Provide a specific example. Sounds like there’s a lot to choose from so should be easy.
Acknowledging the realities of the situation as it stands is not defending anything. You refusing to do that is just fandom, not analysis.
Lots of "Russia had no choice, NATO is expanding" sob stories, without understanding why NATO exists in the first place
Lots of "bio weapon labs" takes to justify the invasion
Lots of "Ukraine is full of Nazis" takes because they have a few groups of paramilitary Neo Nazis like every other country, including Russia
All excuses the Russians themselves use to justfiy invasion and genocide.
No one but a select few buys it
Many on here think it’s an unwinnable situation as it stands. You think it can be done with an unlimited budget and timeline and that we should be spending money for punitive punishment.
Disagree.
Ive said several times this is peanuts to the US and it doesnt involve US troops
Hope this helps.
It doesn't.
Allowing Russia to continue to invade and bully their neighbors will cost FAR more in the long run.
And might actually involve US troops doing the fighting and dying
If we can supply Ukraine with older weapons and let them do the fighting against the Russian horde, why not?
This is what Bot and I have been saying
It sucks this happened, it sucks Biden and the Dems routinely have this shit happening because they dont take hardline stances, everything about it sucks. But the milk is spilled, and Russia is getting a lesson in fuck around and find out.
You are so delusional you called my picture of blown up Russian armour propaganda.
Ok they had the lesson now lets negotiate a damn end to this so innocents on both sides stop dying... this song describes it best...
Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.
Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.
Welcome to 2015 Hillary
Get some new material
Russia Russia Russia led to covid covid covid led to Zelensky lighting his country on fire. Allegedly
Maybe you and Vindman can get cocktails
2015 Hillary was grasping at straws. It was fake news
Russia actually invading their neighbors? Another Tuesday in world history
Not under Trump
If you weren't such a fucking blockhead you might get a clue
Vindman and his ilk attacked American democracy just like they accused Trump
I support America. Go suck Zelensky dick
It all fake news. Hello?
No shit. We agree on Trump.
If you werent such a blockhead, youd understand that sometimes you cant have constant wet dreams about Trump and realize that life goes on
So go ahead and reward the assholes who did it. Are you getting a cut or do you suck cock for free?
It's all fucking fake.
What is fucking fake about Russia being a constant menance to the world? Explain away that one...
The isnt the first rodeo
Ironic, because this describes you perfectly on this topic
Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.
Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.
Who has defended anything that Russia has done?
A good number of people in this thread
Provide a specific example. Sounds like there’s a lot to choose from so should be easy.
Acknowledging the realities of the situation as it stands is not defending anything. You refusing to do that is just fandom, not analysis.
Lots of "Russia had no choice, NATO is expanding" sob stories, without understanding why NATO exists in the first place
Lots of "bio weapon labs" takes to justify the invasion
Lots of "Ukraine is full of Nazis" takes because they have a few groups of paramilitary Neo Nazis like every other country, including Russia
All excuses the Russians themselves use to justfiy invasion and genocide.
No one but a select few buys it
Many on here think it’s an unwinnable situation as it stands. You think it can be done with an unlimited budget and timeline and that we should be spending money for punitive punishment.
Disagree.
Ive said several times this is peanuts to the US and it doesnt involve US troops
Hope this helps.
It doesn't.
Allowing Russia to continue to invade and bully their neighbors will cost FAR more in the long run.
And might actually involve US troops doing the fighting and dying
If we can supply Ukraine with older weapons and let them do the fighting against the Russian horde, why not?
This is what Bot and I have been saying
It sucks this happened, it sucks Biden and the Dems routinely have this shit happening because they dont take hardline stances, everything about it sucks. But the milk is spilled, and Russia is getting a lesson in fuck around and find out.
You are so delusional you called my picture of blown up Russian armour propaganda.
Ok they had the lesson now lets negotiate a damn end to this so innocents on both sides stop dying... this song describes it best...
Just surrender the Rhineland comrade. It's the proper thing to do... for peace.
In 2022 Ukraine and Russia were making significant progress in negotiating an end to this War. The key was Russia pulling back and Ukraine renouncing NATO ambitions. Boris Johnson flew to Ukraine and blew it up. Why won't either you or PGOS address this?
Why does Russia have the right to dictate a sovereign nation's alliances under the threat of invasion and violence?
Use your big boy words.
Let’s say, for the sake of discussion, Mexico joined an alliance with a China or a Russia. Then let’s say that 3rd party decided to put weapons systems on our southern border.
How would you expect the US to respond? Would you support, say, South Africa saying the US has no right to dictate Mexico’s alliances?
Run me through the thought-tree there. TIA.
Pssssst, Whatever you do..
Don't mention the genocide of the Russian people in the Donbass and surrounding areas that has been going on and carried out by the Ukrainian puppet govt since the US led coup to remove a democratically elected president and replace him with someone the US wanted back in 2013-14.
Don't mention that part!
Complete horseshit
Are you getting this from the same source that told you Ukraine had destroyed over 3000 Russian tanks? Cause you poasted pics of said tanks. It's more like 1700-2300 range according to independent orgs that make it their business to provide intelligence on military capabilities. But what's 1000+ tanks when the Ukraine military is your source.
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You know, the country who started this whole mess and has been killing, torturing, and raping civilians. Then deporting the surviving children to re education camps.
This is an evil regime. Chickenhawks think that appeasement is the proper response.
Meh
Ukraine was at the peace table with 15 points being hashed out for peace to happen.
So why did NATO keep dangling membership to Ukraine?
And why didn't Boris want peace instead of more War.
Use your words big boy.
Putin Puppet!
Didn't live it like @RaceBannon but know enough about the Zimmermann Telegram to know that foreign alliances with Mexico are a thing.
And let's not ignore Chinese current interests in Central and South America which may or may not be benign.
The US would be reacting exactly the same as Putin is if China started dropping bases in Colombia, Ecuador and Nicaragua. Though with the current clown-in-chief, dumbass might think that cause for an ice cream break.
But but DEMOCRACY!
And Putin is Hitler, too.
Pssssst,
Whatever you do..
Don't mention the genocide of the Russian people in the Donbass and surrounding areas that has been going on 10 years now and carried out by the Ukrainian puppet govt since the US led coup to remove a democratically elected president and replace him with someone the US wanted back in 2013-14.
Don't mention that part!
UN 3rd party found 7 deaths from mines/shelling per year in the region on average from 2014-2020.
Good thing Russia invaded to save all those people in the Donbass!
As mentioned elsewhere, maybe you've Googled back to 2014. I've been following this conflict since the Orange revolution. Go Google that.
You assume too much about what I do or do not know about Ukraine.
My family adopted 2 little girls from an orphanage in Ukraine before the "Orange"
We have followed closely and do not take the word of the MSM Media or the UN propaganda.
There is more going on than what you have been manipulated into believing.
Im sure there is nothing I can say to make you see the real story...,and you will probably have something else you think you can point too to win this discussion.... but the truth is going to come out and all those people waving their little yellow and blue flags aren't going to like it.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/22/video/russia-ukraine-bucha-massacre-takeaways.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_abductions_in_the_2022_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine
versus
https://iran.mfa.gov.ua/fa/news/fake-ukraine-committed-genocide-against-donbas-inhabitants
https://theconversation.com/putins-claims-that-ukraine-is-committing-genocide-are-baseless-but-not-unprecedented-177511
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/3/9/smells-of-genocide-how-putin-justifies-russias-war-in-ukraine
https://factcheck.ge/en/story/40776-disinformation-ukraine-was-committing-genocide-in-donbas-for-eight-years
go ahead, attack the sources. It's all you have
https://mil.in.ua/en/news/nato-commander-russia-lost-more-than-200-000-killed-and-wounded-in-the-war/\
Maybe it's 3000+ tanks as Ukraine is saying
Maybe it's 2000
No one really knows. But over 1800 have been confirmed destroyed just based on drone footage.
You keep talking about raping, torture, killing of civilians as I talk about getting to the negotiating table and making peace to end it. But I'm the appeaser and Putin cocksucker? WTF is wrong with you?
Ukraine is about to launch a major offensive with new and improved weapons versus what they have been using previously. They are in a position of strength here, and if they want to keep fighting versus appeasing the tyrannical regime that has raped their country, that is their call. I support their right to do that.
You, and other, want to reward the aggressor with concessions and negotiations.
LIFPO.
Ukraine recently kicked Russia out of Kharkiv and Kherson. They want to do the same in the rest of Kherson oblast, and in Southern Ukraine.
Crimea, DPR, LPR is not feasible IMO, but they have a good chance at taking back everything else. They obviously want to.
Big thinker, this chicken hawk google master.