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  • PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 26,200 Swaye's Wigwam

    46XiJCAB said:

    Blueduck said:

    pawz said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Goduckies said:

    pawz said:

    pawz said:

    Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.

    Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.
    Welcome to 2015 Hillary

    Get some new material

    Russia Russia Russia led to covid covid covid led to Zelensky lighting his country on fire. Allegedly

    Maybe you and Vindman can get cocktails
    2015 Hillary was grasping at straws. It was fake news

    Russia actually invading their neighbors? Another Tuesday in world history
    Not under Trump

    If you weren't such a fucking blockhead you might get a clue

    Vindman and his ilk attacked American democracy just like they accused Trump

    I support America. Go suck Zelensky dick

    It all fake news. Hello?
    No shit. We agree on Trump.

    If you werent such a blockhead, youd understand that sometimes you cant have constant wet dreams about Trump and realize that life goes on
    So go ahead and reward the assholes who did it. Are you getting a cut or do you suck cock for free?


    It's all fucking fake.

    What is fucking fake about Russia being a constant menance to the world? Explain away that one...

    The isnt the first rodeo
    Ironic, because this describes you perfectly on this topic


    How so?

    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.

    Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.
    Who has defended anything that Russia has done?
    A good number of people in this thread
    Provide a specific example. Sounds like there’s a lot to choose from so should be easy.

    Acknowledging the realities of the situation as it stands is not defending anything. You refusing to do that is just fandom, not analysis.

    Lots of "Russia had no choice, NATO is expanding" sob stories, without understanding why NATO exists in the first place

    Lots of "bio weapon labs" takes to justify the invasion

    Lots of "Ukraine is full of Nazis" takes because they have a few groups of paramilitary Neo Nazis like every other country, including Russia


    All excuses the Russians themselves use to justfiy invasion and genocide.

    No one but a select few buys it
    Many on here think it’s an unwinnable situation as it stands. You think it can be done with an unlimited budget and timeline and that we should be spending money for punitive punishment.
    Disagree.

    Ive said several times this is peanuts to the US and it doesnt involve US troops


    Hope this helps.

    It doesn't.

    Allowing Russia to continue to invade and bully their neighbors will cost FAR more in the long run.

    And might actually involve US troops doing the fighting and dying

    If we can supply Ukraine with older weapons and let them do the fighting against the Russian horde, why not?

    This is what Bot and I have been saying

    It sucks this happened, it sucks Biden and the Dems routinely have this shit happening because they dont take hardline stances, everything about it sucks. But the milk is spilled, and Russia is getting a lesson in fuck around and find out.

    You are so delusional you called my picture of blown up Russian armour propaganda.
    Ok they had the lesson now lets negotiate a damn end to this so innocents on both sides stop dying... this song describes it best...

    https://youtu.be/LQUXuQ6Zd9w
    Just surrender the Rhineland comrade. It's the proper thing to do... for peace.
    In 2022 Ukraine and Russia were making significant progress in negotiating an end to this War. The key was Russia pulling back and Ukraine renouncing NATO ambitions. Boris Johnson flew to Ukraine and blew it up. Why won't either you or PGOS address this?
    Why does Russia have the right to dictate a sovereign nation's alliances under the threat of invasion and violence?

    Use your big boy words.
    Let’s say, for the sake of discussion, Mexico joined an alliance with a China or a Russia. Then let’s say that 3rd party decided to put weapons systems on our southern border.

    How would you expect the US to respond? Would you support, say, South Africa saying the US has no right to dictate Mexico’s alliances?

    Run me through the thought-tree there. TIA.


    Pssssst,
    Whatever you do..

    Don't mention the genocide of the Russian people in the Donbass and surrounding areas that has been going on and carried out by the Ukrainian puppet govt since the US led coup to remove a democratically elected president and replace him with someone the US wanted back in 2013-14.

    Don't mention that part!
    Complete horseshit
    Are you getting this from the same source that told you Ukraine had destroyed over 3000 Russian tanks? Cause you poasted pics of said tanks. It's more like 1700-2300 range according to independent orgs that make it their business to provide intelligence on military capabilities. But what's 1000+ tanks when the Ukraine military is your source.

    Putin Puppet!
    https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/vladimir-putins-ukrainian-genocide-nobody-can-claim-they-did-not-know/

    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/22/video/russia-ukraine-bucha-massacre-takeaways.html

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_abductions_in_the_2022_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine


    versus

    https://iran.mfa.gov.ua/fa/news/fake-ukraine-committed-genocide-against-donbas-inhabitants

    https://theconversation.com/putins-claims-that-ukraine-is-committing-genocide-are-baseless-but-not-unprecedented-177511

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/3/9/smells-of-genocide-how-putin-justifies-russias-war-in-ukraine

    https://factcheck.ge/en/story/40776-disinformation-ukraine-was-committing-genocide-in-donbas-for-eight-years













    go ahead, attack the sources. It's all you have
    People die and equipment gets destroyed in war POTD

    Big thinker, this chicken hawk google master.




    You've come a long ways from Turkey is leaving NATO and Russia is going to nuke everyone.

    You're halfway acknowledging reality now.

    One step at a time.
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,238 Standard Supporter

    46XiJCAB said:

    Blueduck said:

    pawz said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Goduckies said:

    pawz said:

    pawz said:

    Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.

    Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.
    Welcome to 2015 Hillary

    Get some new material

    Russia Russia Russia led to covid covid covid led to Zelensky lighting his country on fire. Allegedly

    Maybe you and Vindman can get cocktails
    2015 Hillary was grasping at straws. It was fake news

    Russia actually invading their neighbors? Another Tuesday in world history
    Not under Trump

    If you weren't such a fucking blockhead you might get a clue

    Vindman and his ilk attacked American democracy just like they accused Trump

    I support America. Go suck Zelensky dick

    It all fake news. Hello?
    No shit. We agree on Trump.

    If you werent such a blockhead, youd understand that sometimes you cant have constant wet dreams about Trump and realize that life goes on
    So go ahead and reward the assholes who did it. Are you getting a cut or do you suck cock for free?


    It's all fucking fake.

    What is fucking fake about Russia being a constant menance to the world? Explain away that one...

    The isnt the first rodeo
    Ironic, because this describes you perfectly on this topic


    How so?

    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.

    Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.
    Who has defended anything that Russia has done?
    A good number of people in this thread
    Provide a specific example. Sounds like there’s a lot to choose from so should be easy.

    Acknowledging the realities of the situation as it stands is not defending anything. You refusing to do that is just fandom, not analysis.

    Lots of "Russia had no choice, NATO is expanding" sob stories, without understanding why NATO exists in the first place

    Lots of "bio weapon labs" takes to justify the invasion

    Lots of "Ukraine is full of Nazis" takes because they have a few groups of paramilitary Neo Nazis like every other country, including Russia


    All excuses the Russians themselves use to justfiy invasion and genocide.

    No one but a select few buys it
    Many on here think it’s an unwinnable situation as it stands. You think it can be done with an unlimited budget and timeline and that we should be spending money for punitive punishment.
    Disagree.

    Ive said several times this is peanuts to the US and it doesnt involve US troops


    Hope this helps.

    It doesn't.

    Allowing Russia to continue to invade and bully their neighbors will cost FAR more in the long run.

    And might actually involve US troops doing the fighting and dying

    If we can supply Ukraine with older weapons and let them do the fighting against the Russian horde, why not?

    This is what Bot and I have been saying

    It sucks this happened, it sucks Biden and the Dems routinely have this shit happening because they dont take hardline stances, everything about it sucks. But the milk is spilled, and Russia is getting a lesson in fuck around and find out.

    You are so delusional you called my picture of blown up Russian armour propaganda.
    Ok they had the lesson now lets negotiate a damn end to this so innocents on both sides stop dying... this song describes it best...

    https://youtu.be/LQUXuQ6Zd9w
    Just surrender the Rhineland comrade. It's the proper thing to do... for peace.
    In 2022 Ukraine and Russia were making significant progress in negotiating an end to this War. The key was Russia pulling back and Ukraine renouncing NATO ambitions. Boris Johnson flew to Ukraine and blew it up. Why won't either you or PGOS address this?
    Why does Russia have the right to dictate a sovereign nation's alliances under the threat of invasion and violence?

    Use your big boy words.
    Let’s say, for the sake of discussion, Mexico joined an alliance with a China or a Russia. Then let’s say that 3rd party decided to put weapons systems on our southern border.

    How would you expect the US to respond? Would you support, say, South Africa saying the US has no right to dictate Mexico’s alliances?

    Run me through the thought-tree there. TIA.


    Pssssst,
    Whatever you do..

    Don't mention the genocide of the Russian people in the Donbass and surrounding areas that has been going on and carried out by the Ukrainian puppet govt since the US led coup to remove a democratically elected president and replace him with someone the US wanted back in 2013-14.

    Don't mention that part!
    Complete horseshit
    Are you getting this from the same source that told you Ukraine had destroyed over 3000 Russian tanks? Cause you poasted pics of said tanks. It's more like 1700-2300 range according to independent orgs that make it their business to provide intelligence on military capabilities. But what's 1000+ tanks when the Ukraine military is your source.

    Putin Puppet!
    https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/vladimir-putins-ukrainian-genocide-nobody-can-claim-they-did-not-know/

    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/22/video/russia-ukraine-bucha-massacre-takeaways.html

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_abductions_in_the_2022_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine


    versus

    https://iran.mfa.gov.ua/fa/news/fake-ukraine-committed-genocide-against-donbas-inhabitants

    https://theconversation.com/putins-claims-that-ukraine-is-committing-genocide-are-baseless-but-not-unprecedented-177511

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/3/9/smells-of-genocide-how-putin-justifies-russias-war-in-ukraine

    https://factcheck.ge/en/story/40776-disinformation-ukraine-was-committing-genocide-in-donbas-for-eight-years













    go ahead, attack the sources. It's all you have
    People die and equipment gets destroyed in war POTD

    Big thinker, this chicken hawk google master.




    You've come a long ways from Turkey is leaving NATO and Russia is going to nuke everyone.

    You're halfway acknowledging reality now.

    One step at a time.
    You keep deluding yourself, chockenhawk.

  • 46XiJCAB46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967

    46XiJCAB said:

    Blueduck said:

    pawz said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Goduckies said:

    pawz said:

    pawz said:

    Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.

    Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.
    Welcome to 2015 Hillary

    Get some new material

    Russia Russia Russia led to covid covid covid led to Zelensky lighting his country on fire. Allegedly

    Maybe you and Vindman can get cocktails
    2015 Hillary was grasping at straws. It was fake news

    Russia actually invading their neighbors? Another Tuesday in world history
    Not under Trump

    If you weren't such a fucking blockhead you might get a clue

    Vindman and his ilk attacked American democracy just like they accused Trump

    I support America. Go suck Zelensky dick

    It all fake news. Hello?
    No shit. We agree on Trump.

    If you werent such a blockhead, youd understand that sometimes you cant have constant wet dreams about Trump and realize that life goes on
    So go ahead and reward the assholes who did it. Are you getting a cut or do you suck cock for free?


    It's all fucking fake.

    What is fucking fake about Russia being a constant menance to the world? Explain away that one...

    The isnt the first rodeo
    Ironic, because this describes you perfectly on this topic


    How so?

    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.

    Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.
    Who has defended anything that Russia has done?
    A good number of people in this thread
    Provide a specific example. Sounds like there’s a lot to choose from so should be easy.

    Acknowledging the realities of the situation as it stands is not defending anything. You refusing to do that is just fandom, not analysis.

    Lots of "Russia had no choice, NATO is expanding" sob stories, without understanding why NATO exists in the first place

    Lots of "bio weapon labs" takes to justify the invasion

    Lots of "Ukraine is full of Nazis" takes because they have a few groups of paramilitary Neo Nazis like every other country, including Russia


    All excuses the Russians themselves use to justfiy invasion and genocide.

    No one but a select few buys it
    Many on here think it’s an unwinnable situation as it stands. You think it can be done with an unlimited budget and timeline and that we should be spending money for punitive punishment.
    Disagree.

    Ive said several times this is peanuts to the US and it doesnt involve US troops


    Hope this helps.

    It doesn't.

    Allowing Russia to continue to invade and bully their neighbors will cost FAR more in the long run.

    And might actually involve US troops doing the fighting and dying

    If we can supply Ukraine with older weapons and let them do the fighting against the Russian horde, why not?

    This is what Bot and I have been saying

    It sucks this happened, it sucks Biden and the Dems routinely have this shit happening because they dont take hardline stances, everything about it sucks. But the milk is spilled, and Russia is getting a lesson in fuck around and find out.

    You are so delusional you called my picture of blown up Russian armour propaganda.
    Ok they had the lesson now lets negotiate a damn end to this so innocents on both sides stop dying... this song describes it best...

    https://youtu.be/LQUXuQ6Zd9w
    Just surrender the Rhineland comrade. It's the proper thing to do... for peace.
    In 2022 Ukraine and Russia were making significant progress in negotiating an end to this War. The key was Russia pulling back and Ukraine renouncing NATO ambitions. Boris Johnson flew to Ukraine and blew it up. Why won't either you or PGOS address this?
    Why does Russia have the right to dictate a sovereign nation's alliances under the threat of invasion and violence?

    Use your big boy words.
    Let’s say, for the sake of discussion, Mexico joined an alliance with a China or a Russia. Then let’s say that 3rd party decided to put weapons systems on our southern border.

    How would you expect the US to respond? Would you support, say, South Africa saying the US has no right to dictate Mexico’s alliances?

    Run me through the thought-tree there. TIA.


    Pssssst,
    Whatever you do..

    Don't mention the genocide of the Russian people in the Donbass and surrounding areas that has been going on and carried out by the Ukrainian puppet govt since the US led coup to remove a democratically elected president and replace him with someone the US wanted back in 2013-14.

    Don't mention that part!
    Complete horseshit
    Are you getting this from the same source that told you Ukraine had destroyed over 3000 Russian tanks? Cause you poasted pics of said tanks. It's more like 1700-2300 range according to independent orgs that make it their business to provide intelligence on military capabilities. But what's 1000+ tanks when the Ukraine military is your source.

    Putin Puppet!
    https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/vladimir-putins-ukrainian-genocide-nobody-can-claim-they-did-not-know/

    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/22/video/russia-ukraine-bucha-massacre-takeaways.html

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_abductions_in_the_2022_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine


    versus

    https://iran.mfa.gov.ua/fa/news/fake-ukraine-committed-genocide-against-donbas-inhabitants

    https://theconversation.com/putins-claims-that-ukraine-is-committing-genocide-are-baseless-but-not-unprecedented-177511

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/3/9/smells-of-genocide-how-putin-justifies-russias-war-in-ukraine

    https://factcheck.ge/en/story/40776-disinformation-ukraine-was-committing-genocide-in-donbas-for-eight-years













    go ahead, attack the sources. It's all you have
    So you didn't address the 3000 tanks BS. You think winning is just poasting links. Do you trust experts or the Ukraine military to tell you how many Russian tanks they've destroyed? And why are you poasting articles that as far as I know are not being challenged here? Stop flailing around and focus.
  • PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 26,200 Swaye's Wigwam
    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Blueduck said:

    pawz said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Goduckies said:

    pawz said:

    pawz said:

    Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.

    Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.
    Welcome to 2015 Hillary

    Get some new material

    Russia Russia Russia led to covid covid covid led to Zelensky lighting his country on fire. Allegedly

    Maybe you and Vindman can get cocktails
    2015 Hillary was grasping at straws. It was fake news

    Russia actually invading their neighbors? Another Tuesday in world history
    Not under Trump

    If you weren't such a fucking blockhead you might get a clue

    Vindman and his ilk attacked American democracy just like they accused Trump

    I support America. Go suck Zelensky dick

    It all fake news. Hello?
    No shit. We agree on Trump.

    If you werent such a blockhead, youd understand that sometimes you cant have constant wet dreams about Trump and realize that life goes on
    So go ahead and reward the assholes who did it. Are you getting a cut or do you suck cock for free?


    It's all fucking fake.

    What is fucking fake about Russia being a constant menance to the world? Explain away that one...

    The isnt the first rodeo
    Ironic, because this describes you perfectly on this topic


    How so?

    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.

    Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.
    Who has defended anything that Russia has done?
    A good number of people in this thread
    Provide a specific example. Sounds like there’s a lot to choose from so should be easy.

    Acknowledging the realities of the situation as it stands is not defending anything. You refusing to do that is just fandom, not analysis.

    Lots of "Russia had no choice, NATO is expanding" sob stories, without understanding why NATO exists in the first place

    Lots of "bio weapon labs" takes to justify the invasion

    Lots of "Ukraine is full of Nazis" takes because they have a few groups of paramilitary Neo Nazis like every other country, including Russia


    All excuses the Russians themselves use to justfiy invasion and genocide.

    No one but a select few buys it
    Many on here think it’s an unwinnable situation as it stands. You think it can be done with an unlimited budget and timeline and that we should be spending money for punitive punishment.
    Disagree.

    Ive said several times this is peanuts to the US and it doesnt involve US troops


    Hope this helps.

    It doesn't.

    Allowing Russia to continue to invade and bully their neighbors will cost FAR more in the long run.

    And might actually involve US troops doing the fighting and dying

    If we can supply Ukraine with older weapons and let them do the fighting against the Russian horde, why not?

    This is what Bot and I have been saying

    It sucks this happened, it sucks Biden and the Dems routinely have this shit happening because they dont take hardline stances, everything about it sucks. But the milk is spilled, and Russia is getting a lesson in fuck around and find out.

    You are so delusional you called my picture of blown up Russian armour propaganda.
    Ok they had the lesson now lets negotiate a damn end to this so innocents on both sides stop dying... this song describes it best...

    https://youtu.be/LQUXuQ6Zd9w
    Just surrender the Rhineland comrade. It's the proper thing to do... for peace.
    In 2022 Ukraine and Russia were making significant progress in negotiating an end to this War. The key was Russia pulling back and Ukraine renouncing NATO ambitions. Boris Johnson flew to Ukraine and blew it up. Why won't either you or PGOS address this?
    Why does Russia have the right to dictate a sovereign nation's alliances under the threat of invasion and violence?

    Use your big boy words.
    Let’s say, for the sake of discussion, Mexico joined an alliance with a China or a Russia. Then let’s say that 3rd party decided to put weapons systems on our southern border.

    How would you expect the US to respond? Would you support, say, South Africa saying the US has no right to dictate Mexico’s alliances?

    Run me through the thought-tree there. TIA.


    Pssssst,
    Whatever you do..

    Don't mention the genocide of the Russian people in the Donbass and surrounding areas that has been going on and carried out by the Ukrainian puppet govt since the US led coup to remove a democratically elected president and replace him with someone the US wanted back in 2013-14.

    Don't mention that part!
    Complete horseshit
    Are you getting this from the same source that told you Ukraine had destroyed over 3000 Russian tanks? Cause you poasted pics of said tanks. It's more like 1700-2300 range according to independent orgs that make it their business to provide intelligence on military capabilities. But what's 1000+ tanks when the Ukraine military is your source.

    Putin Puppet!
    https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/vladimir-putins-ukrainian-genocide-nobody-can-claim-they-did-not-know/

    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/22/video/russia-ukraine-bucha-massacre-takeaways.html

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_abductions_in_the_2022_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine


    versus

    https://iran.mfa.gov.ua/fa/news/fake-ukraine-committed-genocide-against-donbas-inhabitants

    https://theconversation.com/putins-claims-that-ukraine-is-committing-genocide-are-baseless-but-not-unprecedented-177511

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/3/9/smells-of-genocide-how-putin-justifies-russias-war-in-ukraine

    https://factcheck.ge/en/story/40776-disinformation-ukraine-was-committing-genocide-in-donbas-for-eight-years













    go ahead, attack the sources. It's all you have
    So you didn't address the 3000 tanks BS. You think winning is just poasting links. Do you trust experts or the Ukraine military to tell you how many Russian tanks they've destroyed? And why are you poasting articles that as far as I know are not being challenged here? Stop flailing around and focus.
    I did. Try reading the thread
  • 46XiJCAB46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967

    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Blueduck said:

    pawz said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Goduckies said:

    pawz said:

    pawz said:

    Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.

    Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.
    Welcome to 2015 Hillary

    Get some new material

    Russia Russia Russia led to covid covid covid led to Zelensky lighting his country on fire. Allegedly

    Maybe you and Vindman can get cocktails
    2015 Hillary was grasping at straws. It was fake news

    Russia actually invading their neighbors? Another Tuesday in world history
    Not under Trump

    If you weren't such a fucking blockhead you might get a clue

    Vindman and his ilk attacked American democracy just like they accused Trump

    I support America. Go suck Zelensky dick

    It all fake news. Hello?
    No shit. We agree on Trump.

    If you werent such a blockhead, youd understand that sometimes you cant have constant wet dreams about Trump and realize that life goes on
    So go ahead and reward the assholes who did it. Are you getting a cut or do you suck cock for free?


    It's all fucking fake.

    What is fucking fake about Russia being a constant menance to the world? Explain away that one...

    The isnt the first rodeo
    Ironic, because this describes you perfectly on this topic


    How so?

    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.

    Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.
    Who has defended anything that Russia has done?
    A good number of people in this thread
    Provide a specific example. Sounds like there’s a lot to choose from so should be easy.

    Acknowledging the realities of the situation as it stands is not defending anything. You refusing to do that is just fandom, not analysis.

    Lots of "Russia had no choice, NATO is expanding" sob stories, without understanding why NATO exists in the first place

    Lots of "bio weapon labs" takes to justify the invasion

    Lots of "Ukraine is full of Nazis" takes because they have a few groups of paramilitary Neo Nazis like every other country, including Russia


    All excuses the Russians themselves use to justfiy invasion and genocide.

    No one but a select few buys it
    Many on here think it’s an unwinnable situation as it stands. You think it can be done with an unlimited budget and timeline and that we should be spending money for punitive punishment.
    Disagree.

    Ive said several times this is peanuts to the US and it doesnt involve US troops


    Hope this helps.

    It doesn't.

    Allowing Russia to continue to invade and bully their neighbors will cost FAR more in the long run.

    And might actually involve US troops doing the fighting and dying

    If we can supply Ukraine with older weapons and let them do the fighting against the Russian horde, why not?

    This is what Bot and I have been saying

    It sucks this happened, it sucks Biden and the Dems routinely have this shit happening because they dont take hardline stances, everything about it sucks. But the milk is spilled, and Russia is getting a lesson in fuck around and find out.

    You are so delusional you called my picture of blown up Russian armour propaganda.
    Ok they had the lesson now lets negotiate a damn end to this so innocents on both sides stop dying... this song describes it best...

    https://youtu.be/LQUXuQ6Zd9w
    Just surrender the Rhineland comrade. It's the proper thing to do... for peace.
    In 2022 Ukraine and Russia were making significant progress in negotiating an end to this War. The key was Russia pulling back and Ukraine renouncing NATO ambitions. Boris Johnson flew to Ukraine and blew it up. Why won't either you or PGOS address this?
    Why does Russia have the right to dictate a sovereign nation's alliances under the threat of invasion and violence?

    Use your big boy words.
    Let’s say, for the sake of discussion, Mexico joined an alliance with a China or a Russia. Then let’s say that 3rd party decided to put weapons systems on our southern border.

    How would you expect the US to respond? Would you support, say, South Africa saying the US has no right to dictate Mexico’s alliances?

    Run me through the thought-tree there. TIA.


    Pssssst,
    Whatever you do..

    Don't mention the genocide of the Russian people in the Donbass and surrounding areas that has been going on and carried out by the Ukrainian puppet govt since the US led coup to remove a democratically elected president and replace him with someone the US wanted back in 2013-14.

    Don't mention that part!
    Complete horseshit
    Are you getting this from the same source that told you Ukraine had destroyed over 3000 Russian tanks? Cause you poasted pics of said tanks. It's more like 1700-2300 range according to independent orgs that make it their business to provide intelligence on military capabilities. But what's 1000+ tanks when the Ukraine military is your source.

    Putin Puppet!
    https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/vladimir-putins-ukrainian-genocide-nobody-can-claim-they-did-not-know/

    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/22/video/russia-ukraine-bucha-massacre-takeaways.html

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_abductions_in_the_2022_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine


    versus

    https://iran.mfa.gov.ua/fa/news/fake-ukraine-committed-genocide-against-donbas-inhabitants

    https://theconversation.com/putins-claims-that-ukraine-is-committing-genocide-are-baseless-but-not-unprecedented-177511

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/3/9/smells-of-genocide-how-putin-justifies-russias-war-in-ukraine

    https://factcheck.ge/en/story/40776-disinformation-ukraine-was-committing-genocide-in-donbas-for-eight-years













    go ahead, attack the sources. It's all you have
    So you didn't address the 3000 tanks BS. You think winning is just poasting links. Do you trust experts or the Ukraine military to tell you how many Russian tanks they've destroyed? And why are you poasting articles that as far as I know are not being challenged here? Stop flailing around and focus.
    I did. Try reading the thread
    Oh my goodness I missed ONE of your poasts. How the hell did that happen. So I was right. Thanks.
  • PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 26,200 Swaye's Wigwam
    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Blueduck said:

    pawz said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Goduckies said:

    pawz said:

    pawz said:

    Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.

    Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.
    Welcome to 2015 Hillary

    Get some new material

    Russia Russia Russia led to covid covid covid led to Zelensky lighting his country on fire. Allegedly

    Maybe you and Vindman can get cocktails
    2015 Hillary was grasping at straws. It was fake news

    Russia actually invading their neighbors? Another Tuesday in world history
    Not under Trump

    If you weren't such a fucking blockhead you might get a clue

    Vindman and his ilk attacked American democracy just like they accused Trump

    I support America. Go suck Zelensky dick

    It all fake news. Hello?
    No shit. We agree on Trump.

    If you werent such a blockhead, youd understand that sometimes you cant have constant wet dreams about Trump and realize that life goes on
    So go ahead and reward the assholes who did it. Are you getting a cut or do you suck cock for free?


    It's all fucking fake.

    What is fucking fake about Russia being a constant menance to the world? Explain away that one...

    The isnt the first rodeo
    Ironic, because this describes you perfectly on this topic


    How so?

    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.

    Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.
    Who has defended anything that Russia has done?
    A good number of people in this thread
    Provide a specific example. Sounds like there’s a lot to choose from so should be easy.

    Acknowledging the realities of the situation as it stands is not defending anything. You refusing to do that is just fandom, not analysis.

    Lots of "Russia had no choice, NATO is expanding" sob stories, without understanding why NATO exists in the first place

    Lots of "bio weapon labs" takes to justify the invasion

    Lots of "Ukraine is full of Nazis" takes because they have a few groups of paramilitary Neo Nazis like every other country, including Russia


    All excuses the Russians themselves use to justfiy invasion and genocide.

    No one but a select few buys it
    Many on here think it’s an unwinnable situation as it stands. You think it can be done with an unlimited budget and timeline and that we should be spending money for punitive punishment.
    Disagree.

    Ive said several times this is peanuts to the US and it doesnt involve US troops


    Hope this helps.

    It doesn't.

    Allowing Russia to continue to invade and bully their neighbors will cost FAR more in the long run.

    And might actually involve US troops doing the fighting and dying

    If we can supply Ukraine with older weapons and let them do the fighting against the Russian horde, why not?

    This is what Bot and I have been saying

    It sucks this happened, it sucks Biden and the Dems routinely have this shit happening because they dont take hardline stances, everything about it sucks. But the milk is spilled, and Russia is getting a lesson in fuck around and find out.

    You are so delusional you called my picture of blown up Russian armour propaganda.
    Ok they had the lesson now lets negotiate a damn end to this so innocents on both sides stop dying... this song describes it best...

    https://youtu.be/LQUXuQ6Zd9w
    Just surrender the Rhineland comrade. It's the proper thing to do... for peace.
    In 2022 Ukraine and Russia were making significant progress in negotiating an end to this War. The key was Russia pulling back and Ukraine renouncing NATO ambitions. Boris Johnson flew to Ukraine and blew it up. Why won't either you or PGOS address this?
    Why does Russia have the right to dictate a sovereign nation's alliances under the threat of invasion and violence?

    Use your big boy words.
    Let’s say, for the sake of discussion, Mexico joined an alliance with a China or a Russia. Then let’s say that 3rd party decided to put weapons systems on our southern border.

    How would you expect the US to respond? Would you support, say, South Africa saying the US has no right to dictate Mexico’s alliances?

    Run me through the thought-tree there. TIA.


    Pssssst,
    Whatever you do..

    Don't mention the genocide of the Russian people in the Donbass and surrounding areas that has been going on and carried out by the Ukrainian puppet govt since the US led coup to remove a democratically elected president and replace him with someone the US wanted back in 2013-14.

    Don't mention that part!
    Complete horseshit
    Are you getting this from the same source that told you Ukraine had destroyed over 3000 Russian tanks? Cause you poasted pics of said tanks. It's more like 1700-2300 range according to independent orgs that make it their business to provide intelligence on military capabilities. But what's 1000+ tanks when the Ukraine military is your source.

    Putin Puppet!
    https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/vladimir-putins-ukrainian-genocide-nobody-can-claim-they-did-not-know/

    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/22/video/russia-ukraine-bucha-massacre-takeaways.html

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_abductions_in_the_2022_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine


    versus

    https://iran.mfa.gov.ua/fa/news/fake-ukraine-committed-genocide-against-donbas-inhabitants

    https://theconversation.com/putins-claims-that-ukraine-is-committing-genocide-are-baseless-but-not-unprecedented-177511

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/3/9/smells-of-genocide-how-putin-justifies-russias-war-in-ukraine

    https://factcheck.ge/en/story/40776-disinformation-ukraine-was-committing-genocide-in-donbas-for-eight-years













    go ahead, attack the sources. It's all you have
    So you didn't address the 3000 tanks BS. You think winning is just poasting links. Do you trust experts or the Ukraine military to tell you how many Russian tanks they've destroyed? And why are you poasting articles that as far as I know are not being challenged here? Stop flailing around and focus.
    I did. Try reading the thread
    Oh my goodness I missed ONE of your poasts. How the hell did that happen. So I was right. Thanks.
    Swing and a miss
  • 46XiJCAB46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    PGOS can continue to believe that Ukraine is going to push Russian troops back to Russia. It's a fantasy but nothing anyone poasts here will deter him from believing that. I'll continue to read and listen to people with rational takes on what's happening on the front and the likely outcome.
  • 46XiJCAB46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967

    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Blueduck said:

    pawz said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Goduckies said:

    pawz said:

    pawz said:

    Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.

    Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.
    Welcome to 2015 Hillary

    Get some new material

    Russia Russia Russia led to covid covid covid led to Zelensky lighting his country on fire. Allegedly

    Maybe you and Vindman can get cocktails
    2015 Hillary was grasping at straws. It was fake news

    Russia actually invading their neighbors? Another Tuesday in world history
    Not under Trump

    If you weren't such a fucking blockhead you might get a clue

    Vindman and his ilk attacked American democracy just like they accused Trump

    I support America. Go suck Zelensky dick

    It all fake news. Hello?
    No shit. We agree on Trump.

    If you werent such a blockhead, youd understand that sometimes you cant have constant wet dreams about Trump and realize that life goes on
    So go ahead and reward the assholes who did it. Are you getting a cut or do you suck cock for free?


    It's all fucking fake.

    What is fucking fake about Russia being a constant menance to the world? Explain away that one...

    The isnt the first rodeo
    Ironic, because this describes you perfectly on this topic


    How so?

    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.

    Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.
    Who has defended anything that Russia has done?
    A good number of people in this thread
    Provide a specific example. Sounds like there’s a lot to choose from so should be easy.

    Acknowledging the realities of the situation as it stands is not defending anything. You refusing to do that is just fandom, not analysis.

    Lots of "Russia had no choice, NATO is expanding" sob stories, without understanding why NATO exists in the first place

    Lots of "bio weapon labs" takes to justify the invasion

    Lots of "Ukraine is full of Nazis" takes because they have a few groups of paramilitary Neo Nazis like every other country, including Russia


    All excuses the Russians themselves use to justfiy invasion and genocide.

    No one but a select few buys it
    Many on here think it’s an unwinnable situation as it stands. You think it can be done with an unlimited budget and timeline and that we should be spending money for punitive punishment.
    Disagree.

    Ive said several times this is peanuts to the US and it doesnt involve US troops


    Hope this helps.

    It doesn't.

    Allowing Russia to continue to invade and bully their neighbors will cost FAR more in the long run.

    And might actually involve US troops doing the fighting and dying

    If we can supply Ukraine with older weapons and let them do the fighting against the Russian horde, why not?

    This is what Bot and I have been saying

    It sucks this happened, it sucks Biden and the Dems routinely have this shit happening because they dont take hardline stances, everything about it sucks. But the milk is spilled, and Russia is getting a lesson in fuck around and find out.

    You are so delusional you called my picture of blown up Russian armour propaganda.
    Ok they had the lesson now lets negotiate a damn end to this so innocents on both sides stop dying... this song describes it best...

    https://youtu.be/LQUXuQ6Zd9w
    Just surrender the Rhineland comrade. It's the proper thing to do... for peace.
    In 2022 Ukraine and Russia were making significant progress in negotiating an end to this War. The key was Russia pulling back and Ukraine renouncing NATO ambitions. Boris Johnson flew to Ukraine and blew it up. Why won't either you or PGOS address this?
    Why does Russia have the right to dictate a sovereign nation's alliances under the threat of invasion and violence?

    Use your big boy words.
    Let’s say, for the sake of discussion, Mexico joined an alliance with a China or a Russia. Then let’s say that 3rd party decided to put weapons systems on our southern border.

    How would you expect the US to respond? Would you support, say, South Africa saying the US has no right to dictate Mexico’s alliances?

    Run me through the thought-tree there. TIA.


    Pssssst,
    Whatever you do..

    Don't mention the genocide of the Russian people in the Donbass and surrounding areas that has been going on and carried out by the Ukrainian puppet govt since the US led coup to remove a democratically elected president and replace him with someone the US wanted back in 2013-14.

    Don't mention that part!
    Complete horseshit
    Are you getting this from the same source that told you Ukraine had destroyed over 3000 Russian tanks? Cause you poasted pics of said tanks. It's more like 1700-2300 range according to independent orgs that make it their business to provide intelligence on military capabilities. But what's 1000+ tanks when the Ukraine military is your source.

    Putin Puppet!
    https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/vladimir-putins-ukrainian-genocide-nobody-can-claim-they-did-not-know/

    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/22/video/russia-ukraine-bucha-massacre-takeaways.html

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_abductions_in_the_2022_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine


    versus

    https://iran.mfa.gov.ua/fa/news/fake-ukraine-committed-genocide-against-donbas-inhabitants

    https://theconversation.com/putins-claims-that-ukraine-is-committing-genocide-are-baseless-but-not-unprecedented-177511

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/3/9/smells-of-genocide-how-putin-justifies-russias-war-in-ukraine

    https://factcheck.ge/en/story/40776-disinformation-ukraine-was-committing-genocide-in-donbas-for-eight-years













    go ahead, attack the sources. It's all you have
    So you didn't address the 3000 tanks BS. You think winning is just poasting links. Do you trust experts or the Ukraine military to tell you how many Russian tanks they've destroyed? And why are you poasting articles that as far as I know are not being challenged here? Stop flailing around and focus.
    I did. Try reading the thread
    Oh my goodness I missed ONE of your poasts. How the hell did that happen. So I was right. Thanks.
    Swing and a miss
    For you I agree. So it's not 3000 but who's counting at this point. Russia is being "shredded" and it will all be over soon.
  • PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 26,200 Swaye's Wigwam
    46XiJCAB said:

    PGOS can continue to believe that Ukraine is going to push Russian troops back to Russia. It's a fantasy but nothing anyone poasts here will deter him from believing that. I'll continue to read and listen to people with rational takes on what's happening on the front and the likely outcome.




    You are retarded
  • 46XiJCAB46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967

    46XiJCAB said:

    PGOS can continue to believe that Ukraine is going to push Russian troops back to Russia. It's a fantasy but nothing anyone poasts here will deter him from believing that. I'll continue to read and listen to people with rational takes on what's happening on the front and the likely outcome.




    You are retarded
    Gawd you're fucking thick. In 2022 Russia and Ukraine will working on a settlement that included Russia pulling back and Ukraine renouncing NATO aspirations. Then Boris. But do go on.
  • PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 26,200 Swaye's Wigwam
    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    PGOS can continue to believe that Ukraine is going to push Russian troops back to Russia. It's a fantasy but nothing anyone poasts here will deter him from believing that. I'll continue to read and listen to people with rational takes on what's happening on the front and the likely outcome.




    You are retarded
    Gawd you're fucking thick. In 2022 Russia and Ukraine will working on a settlement that included Russia pulling back and Ukraine renouncing NATO aspirations. Then Boris. But do go on.
    Ukraine doesn't need to revoke NATO aspirations. Russia could BE in NATO if it wanted to.

    You are what is called a "useful idiot"
  • 46XiJCAB46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    edited March 2023

    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    PGOS can continue to believe that Ukraine is going to push Russian troops back to Russia. It's a fantasy but nothing anyone poasts here will deter him from believing that. I'll continue to read and listen to people with rational takes on what's happening on the front and the likely outcome.




    You are retarded
    Gawd you're fucking thick. In 2022 Russia and Ukraine will working on a settlement that included Russia pulling back and Ukraine renouncing NATO aspirations. Then Boris. But do go on.
    Ukraine doesn't need to revoke NATO aspirations. Russia could BE in NATO if it wanted to.

    You are what is called a "useful idiot"
    Better they continue to fight an unwinnable war for us, lose 1000's upon 1000's, plus over 10 Million refugees, see their country destroyed and for what? Why were they negotiating in the first place? They were "winning." Maybe they just needed to listen to you. You calling anyone a "useful idiot" is PRICELESS!
  • PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 26,200 Swaye's Wigwam
    edited March 2023
    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    PGOS can continue to believe that Ukraine is going to push Russian troops back to Russia. It's a fantasy but nothing anyone poasts here will deter him from believing that. I'll continue to read and listen to people with rational takes on what's happening on the front and the likely outcome.




    You are retarded
    Gawd you're fucking thick. In 2022 Russia and Ukraine will working on a settlement that included Russia pulling back and Ukraine renouncing NATO aspirations. Then Boris. But do go on.
    Ukraine doesn't need to revoke NATO aspirations. Russia could BE in NATO if it wanted to.

    You are what is called a "useful idiot"
    Better they continue to fight an unwinnable war for us, lose 1000's upon 1000's, plus over 10 Million refugees, see their country destroyed and for what? Why were they negotiating in the first place? They were "winning." Maybe they just needed to listen to you. You calling anyone a "useful idiot" is PRICELESS!
    For their independence from Russia.

    Why does every country hate Russia?

    Why are thousands of thousands dying to fight Russia?

    Who invaded who?

    All questions with answers that elude you
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,238 Standard Supporter

    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    PGOS can continue to believe that Ukraine is going to push Russian troops back to Russia. It's a fantasy but nothing anyone poasts here will deter him from believing that. I'll continue to read and listen to people with rational takes on what's happening on the front and the likely outcome.




    You are retarded
    Gawd you're fucking thick. In 2022 Russia and Ukraine will working on a settlement that included Russia pulling back and Ukraine renouncing NATO aspirations. Then Boris. But do go on.
    Ukraine doesn't need to revoke NATO aspirations. Russia could BE in NATO if it wanted to.

    You are what is called a "useful idiot"
    Better they continue to fight an unwinnable war for us, lose 1000's upon 1000's, plus over 10 Million refugees, see their country destroyed and for what? Why were they negotiating in the first place? They were "winning." Maybe they just needed to listen to you. You calling anyone a "useful idiot" is PRICELESS!
    For their independence from Russia.

    Why does every country hate Russia?

    Why are thousands of thousands dying to fight Russia?

    Who invaded who?

    All questions with answers that elude you
    Are you taking a selfie stick when you go off to fight the big bad Red Army?

  • PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 26,200 Swaye's Wigwam

    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    PGOS can continue to believe that Ukraine is going to push Russian troops back to Russia. It's a fantasy but nothing anyone poasts here will deter him from believing that. I'll continue to read and listen to people with rational takes on what's happening on the front and the likely outcome.




    You are retarded
    Gawd you're fucking thick. In 2022 Russia and Ukraine will working on a settlement that included Russia pulling back and Ukraine renouncing NATO aspirations. Then Boris. But do go on.
    Ukraine doesn't need to revoke NATO aspirations. Russia could BE in NATO if it wanted to.

    You are what is called a "useful idiot"
    Better they continue to fight an unwinnable war for us, lose 1000's upon 1000's, plus over 10 Million refugees, see their country destroyed and for what? Why were they negotiating in the first place? They were "winning." Maybe they just needed to listen to you. You calling anyone a "useful idiot" is PRICELESS!
    For their independence from Russia.

    Why does every country hate Russia?

    Why are thousands of thousands dying to fight Russia?

    Who invaded who?

    All questions with answers that elude you
    Are you taking a selfie stick when you go off to fight the big bad Red Army?

    About what I expected

    All questions with answers that elude you
  • 46XiJCAB46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    edited March 2023

    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    PGOS can continue to believe that Ukraine is going to push Russian troops back to Russia. It's a fantasy but nothing anyone poasts here will deter him from believing that. I'll continue to read and listen to people with rational takes on what's happening on the front and the likely outcome.




    You are retarded
    Gawd you're fucking thick. In 2022 Russia and Ukraine will working on a settlement that included Russia pulling back and Ukraine renouncing NATO aspirations. Then Boris. But do go on.
    Ukraine doesn't need to revoke NATO aspirations. Russia could BE in NATO if it wanted to.

    You are what is called a "useful idiot"
    Better they continue to fight an unwinnable war for us, lose 1000's upon 1000's, plus over 10 Million refugees, see their country destroyed and for what? Why were they negotiating in the first place? They were "winning." Maybe they just needed to listen to you. You calling anyone a "useful idiot" is PRICELESS!
    For their independence from Russia.

    Why does every country hate Russia?

    Why are thousands of thousands dying to fight Russia?

    Who invaded who?

    All questions with answers that elude you
    Here's a question that when posed to you is like sunlight to a vampire. Why was Ukraine at the negotiating table last year? My guess, to continue their independence from Russia. You should have stopped there.
  • PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 26,200 Swaye's Wigwam
    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    PGOS can continue to believe that Ukraine is going to push Russian troops back to Russia. It's a fantasy but nothing anyone poasts here will deter him from believing that. I'll continue to read and listen to people with rational takes on what's happening on the front and the likely outcome.




    You are retarded
    Gawd you're fucking thick. In 2022 Russia and Ukraine will working on a settlement that included Russia pulling back and Ukraine renouncing NATO aspirations. Then Boris. But do go on.
    Ukraine doesn't need to revoke NATO aspirations. Russia could BE in NATO if it wanted to.

    You are what is called a "useful idiot"
    Better they continue to fight an unwinnable war for us, lose 1000's upon 1000's, plus over 10 Million refugees, see their country destroyed and for what? Why were they negotiating in the first place? They were "winning." Maybe they just needed to listen to you. You calling anyone a "useful idiot" is PRICELESS!
    For their independence from Russia.

    Why does every country hate Russia?

    Why are thousands of thousands dying to fight Russia?

    Who invaded who?

    All questions with answers that elude you
    Here's a question that when posed to you is like sunlight to a vampire. Why was Ukraine at the negotiating table last year? My guess, to continue their independence from Russia. You should have stopped there.
    Ukraine and Russia have been off and on negotiating since 2014.

    HTH
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,238 Standard Supporter

    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    PGOS can continue to believe that Ukraine is going to push Russian troops back to Russia. It's a fantasy but nothing anyone poasts here will deter him from believing that. I'll continue to read and listen to people with rational takes on what's happening on the front and the likely outcome.




    You are retarded
    Gawd you're fucking thick. In 2022 Russia and Ukraine will working on a settlement that included Russia pulling back and Ukraine renouncing NATO aspirations. Then Boris. But do go on.
    Ukraine doesn't need to revoke NATO aspirations. Russia could BE in NATO if it wanted to.

    You are what is called a "useful idiot"
    Better they continue to fight an unwinnable war for us, lose 1000's upon 1000's, plus over 10 Million refugees, see their country destroyed and for what? Why were they negotiating in the first place? They were "winning." Maybe they just needed to listen to you. You calling anyone a "useful idiot" is PRICELESS!
    For their independence from Russia.

    Why does every country hate Russia?

    Why are thousands of thousands dying to fight Russia?

    Who invaded who?

    All questions with answers that elude you
    Are you taking a selfie stick when you go off to fight the big bad Red Army?

    About what I expected

    All questions with answers that elude you
    Well, are you?

  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 15,828 Swaye's Wigwam
    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Goduckies said:

    pawz said:

    pawz said:

    Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.

    Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.
    Welcome to 2015 Hillary

    Get some new material

    Russia Russia Russia led to covid covid covid led to Zelensky lighting his country on fire. Allegedly

    Maybe you and Vindman can get cocktails
    2015 Hillary was grasping at straws. It was fake news

    Russia actually invading their neighbors? Another Tuesday in world history
    Not under Trump

    If you weren't such a fucking blockhead you might get a clue

    Vindman and his ilk attacked American democracy just like they accused Trump

    I support America. Go suck Zelensky dick

    It all fake news. Hello?
    No shit. We agree on Trump.

    If you werent such a blockhead, youd understand that sometimes you cant have constant wet dreams about Trump and realize that life goes on
    So go ahead and reward the assholes who did it. Are you getting a cut or do you suck cock for free?


    It's all fucking fake.

    What is fucking fake about Russia being a constant menance to the world? Explain away that one...

    The isnt the first rodeo
    Ironic, because this describes you perfectly on this topic


    How so?

    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.

    Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.
    Who has defended anything that Russia has done?
    A good number of people in this thread
    Provide a specific example. Sounds like there’s a lot to choose from so should be easy.

    Acknowledging the realities of the situation as it stands is not defending anything. You refusing to do that is just fandom, not analysis.

    Lots of "Russia had no choice, NATO is expanding" sob stories, without understanding why NATO exists in the first place

    Lots of "bio weapon labs" takes to justify the invasion

    Lots of "Ukraine is full of Nazis" takes because they have a few groups of paramilitary Neo Nazis like every other country, including Russia


    All excuses the Russians themselves use to justfiy invasion and genocide.

    No one but a select few buys it
    Many on here think it’s an unwinnable situation as it stands. You think it can be done with an unlimited budget and timeline and that we should be spending money for punitive punishment.
    Disagree.

    Ive said several times this is peanuts to the US and it doesnt involve US troops


    Hope this helps.

    It doesn't.

    Allowing Russia to continue to invade and bully their neighbors will cost FAR more in the long run.

    And might actually involve US troops doing the fighting and dying

    If we can supply Ukraine with older weapons and let them do the fighting against the Russian horde, why not?

    This is what Bot and I have been saying

    It sucks this happened, it sucks Biden and the Dems routinely have this shit happening because they dont take hardline stances, everything about it sucks. But the milk is spilled, and Russia is getting a lesson in fuck around and find out.

    You are so delusional you called my picture of blown up Russian armour propaganda.
    Ok they had the lesson now lets negotiate a damn end to this so innocents on both sides stop dying... this song describes it best...

    https://youtu.be/LQUXuQ6Zd9w
    Just surrender the Rhineland comrade. It's the proper thing to do... for peace.
    In 2022 Ukraine and Russia were making significant progress in negotiating an end to this War. The key was Russia pulling back and Ukraine renouncing NATO ambitions. Boris Johnson flew to Ukraine and blew it up. Why won't either you or PGOS address this?
    Why does Russia have the right to dictate a sovereign nation's alliances under the threat of invasion and violence?

    Use your big boy words.
    That's not an answer to my question.

    Ukraine was at the peace table with 15 points being hashed out for peace to happen.

    So why did NATO keep dangling membership to Ukraine?

    And why didn't Boris want peace instead of more War.

    Use your words big boy.
    In other words you have no answer.

    It's NATO's fault Russia invaded potd.

    You guysm can keep saying it, it still doesn't make it true.
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,238 Standard Supporter

    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Goduckies said:

    pawz said:

    pawz said:

    Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.

    Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.
    Welcome to 2015 Hillary

    Get some new material

    Russia Russia Russia led to covid covid covid led to Zelensky lighting his country on fire. Allegedly

    Maybe you and Vindman can get cocktails
    2015 Hillary was grasping at straws. It was fake news

    Russia actually invading their neighbors? Another Tuesday in world history
    Not under Trump

    If you weren't such a fucking blockhead you might get a clue

    Vindman and his ilk attacked American democracy just like they accused Trump

    I support America. Go suck Zelensky dick

    It all fake news. Hello?
    No shit. We agree on Trump.

    If you werent such a blockhead, youd understand that sometimes you cant have constant wet dreams about Trump and realize that life goes on
    So go ahead and reward the assholes who did it. Are you getting a cut or do you suck cock for free?


    It's all fucking fake.

    What is fucking fake about Russia being a constant menance to the world? Explain away that one...

    The isnt the first rodeo
    Ironic, because this describes you perfectly on this topic


    How so?

    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.

    Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.
    Who has defended anything that Russia has done?
    A good number of people in this thread
    Provide a specific example. Sounds like there’s a lot to choose from so should be easy.

    Acknowledging the realities of the situation as it stands is not defending anything. You refusing to do that is just fandom, not analysis.

    Lots of "Russia had no choice, NATO is expanding" sob stories, without understanding why NATO exists in the first place

    Lots of "bio weapon labs" takes to justify the invasion

    Lots of "Ukraine is full of Nazis" takes because they have a few groups of paramilitary Neo Nazis like every other country, including Russia


    All excuses the Russians themselves use to justfiy invasion and genocide.

    No one but a select few buys it
    Many on here think it’s an unwinnable situation as it stands. You think it can be done with an unlimited budget and timeline and that we should be spending money for punitive punishment.
    Disagree.

    Ive said several times this is peanuts to the US and it doesnt involve US troops


    Hope this helps.

    It doesn't.

    Allowing Russia to continue to invade and bully their neighbors will cost FAR more in the long run.

    And might actually involve US troops doing the fighting and dying

    If we can supply Ukraine with older weapons and let them do the fighting against the Russian horde, why not?

    This is what Bot and I have been saying

    It sucks this happened, it sucks Biden and the Dems routinely have this shit happening because they dont take hardline stances, everything about it sucks. But the milk is spilled, and Russia is getting a lesson in fuck around and find out.

    You are so delusional you called my picture of blown up Russian armour propaganda.
    Ok they had the lesson now lets negotiate a damn end to this so innocents on both sides stop dying... this song describes it best...

    https://youtu.be/LQUXuQ6Zd9w
    Just surrender the Rhineland comrade. It's the proper thing to do... for peace.
    In 2022 Ukraine and Russia were making significant progress in negotiating an end to this War. The key was Russia pulling back and Ukraine renouncing NATO ambitions. Boris Johnson flew to Ukraine and blew it up. Why won't either you or PGOS address this?
    Why does Russia have the right to dictate a sovereign nation's alliances under the threat of invasion and violence?

    Use your big boy words.
    That's not an answer to my question.

    Ukraine was at the peace table with 15 points being hashed out for peace to happen.

    So why did NATO keep dangling membership to Ukraine?

    And why didn't Boris want peace instead of more War.

    Use your words big boy.
    In other words you have no answer.

    It's NATO's fault Russia invaded potd.

    You guysm can keep saying it, it still doesn't make it true.
    Why did Russia invade then?

    Judges will not accept putting the band back together or domino theory.

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