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  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 15,828 Swaye's Wigwam
    Goduckies said:

    pawz said:

    pawz said:

    Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.

    Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.
    Welcome to 2015 Hillary

    Get some new material

    Russia Russia Russia led to covid covid covid led to Zelensky lighting his country on fire. Allegedly

    Maybe you and Vindman can get cocktails
    2015 Hillary was grasping at straws. It was fake news

    Russia actually invading their neighbors? Another Tuesday in world history
    Not under Trump

    If you weren't such a fucking blockhead you might get a clue

    Vindman and his ilk attacked American democracy just like they accused Trump

    I support America. Go suck Zelensky dick

    It all fake news. Hello?
    No shit. We agree on Trump.

    If you werent such a blockhead, youd understand that sometimes you cant have constant wet dreams about Trump and realize that life goes on
    So go ahead and reward the assholes who did it. Are you getting a cut or do you suck cock for free?


    It's all fucking fake.

    What is fucking fake about Russia being a constant menance to the world? Explain away that one...

    The isnt the first rodeo
    Ironic, because this describes you perfectly on this topic


    How so?

    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.

    Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.
    Who has defended anything that Russia has done?
    A good number of people in this thread
    Provide a specific example. Sounds like there’s a lot to choose from so should be easy.

    Acknowledging the realities of the situation as it stands is not defending anything. You refusing to do that is just fandom, not analysis.

    Lots of "Russia had no choice, NATO is expanding" sob stories, without understanding why NATO exists in the first place

    Lots of "bio weapon labs" takes to justify the invasion

    Lots of "Ukraine is full of Nazis" takes because they have a few groups of paramilitary Neo Nazis like every other country, including Russia


    All excuses the Russians themselves use to justfiy invasion and genocide.

    No one but a select few buys it
    Many on here think it’s an unwinnable situation as it stands. You think it can be done with an unlimited budget and timeline and that we should be spending money for punitive punishment.
    Disagree.

    Ive said several times this is peanuts to the US and it doesnt involve US troops


    Hope this helps.

    It doesn't.

    Allowing Russia to continue to invade and bully their neighbors will cost FAR more in the long run.

    And might actually involve US troops doing the fighting and dying

    If we can supply Ukraine with older weapons and let them do the fighting against the Russian horde, why not?

    This is what Bot and I have been saying

    It sucks this happened, it sucks Biden and the Dems routinely have this shit happening because they dont take hardline stances, everything about it sucks. But the milk is spilled, and Russia is getting a lesson in fuck around and find out.

    You are so delusional you called my picture of blown up Russian armour propaganda.
    Ok they had the lesson now lets negotiate a damn end to this so innocents on both sides stop dying... this song describes it best...

    https://youtu.be/LQUXuQ6Zd9w
    Just surrender the Rhineland comrade. It's the proper thing to do... for peace.
  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 15,375 Standard Supporter

    Goduckies said:

    pawz said:

    pawz said:

    Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.

    Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.
    Welcome to 2015 Hillary

    Get some new material

    Russia Russia Russia led to covid covid covid led to Zelensky lighting his country on fire. Allegedly

    Maybe you and Vindman can get cocktails
    2015 Hillary was grasping at straws. It was fake news

    Russia actually invading their neighbors? Another Tuesday in world history
    Not under Trump

    If you weren't such a fucking blockhead you might get a clue

    Vindman and his ilk attacked American democracy just like they accused Trump

    I support America. Go suck Zelensky dick

    It all fake news. Hello?
    No shit. We agree on Trump.

    If you werent such a blockhead, youd understand that sometimes you cant have constant wet dreams about Trump and realize that life goes on
    So go ahead and reward the assholes who did it. Are you getting a cut or do you suck cock for free?


    It's all fucking fake.

    What is fucking fake about Russia being a constant menance to the world? Explain away that one...

    The isnt the first rodeo
    Ironic, because this describes you perfectly on this topic


    How so?

    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.

    Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.
    Who has defended anything that Russia has done?
    A good number of people in this thread
    Provide a specific example. Sounds like there’s a lot to choose from so should be easy.

    Acknowledging the realities of the situation as it stands is not defending anything. You refusing to do that is just fandom, not analysis.

    Lots of "Russia had no choice, NATO is expanding" sob stories, without understanding why NATO exists in the first place

    Lots of "bio weapon labs" takes to justify the invasion

    Lots of "Ukraine is full of Nazis" takes because they have a few groups of paramilitary Neo Nazis like every other country, including Russia


    All excuses the Russians themselves use to justfiy invasion and genocide.

    No one but a select few buys it
    Many on here think it’s an unwinnable situation as it stands. You think it can be done with an unlimited budget and timeline and that we should be spending money for punitive punishment.
    Disagree.

    Ive said several times this is peanuts to the US and it doesnt involve US troops


    Hope this helps.

    It doesn't.

    Allowing Russia to continue to invade and bully their neighbors will cost FAR more in the long run.

    And might actually involve US troops doing the fighting and dying

    If we can supply Ukraine with older weapons and let them do the fighting against the Russian horde, why not?

    This is what Bot and I have been saying

    It sucks this happened, it sucks Biden and the Dems routinely have this shit happening because they dont take hardline stances, everything about it sucks. But the milk is spilled, and Russia is getting a lesson in fuck around and find out.

    You are so delusional you called my picture of blown up Russian armour propaganda.
    Ok they had the lesson now lets negotiate a damn end to this so innocents on both sides stop dying... this song describes it best...

    https://youtu.be/LQUXuQ6Zd9w
    Just surrender the Rhineland comrade. It's the proper thing to do... for peace.
    Germany in 1939 is not Russia in 2023. If you leftards ever took some history classes you would know one is not like the other. And Russia in 2023 is not the Soviet Union of 1970. Estimated number of Soviets under arms during the cold war estimated at 5 million.
  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 15,828 Swaye's Wigwam

    Goduckies said:

    pawz said:

    pawz said:

    Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.

    Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.
    Welcome to 2015 Hillary

    Get some new material

    Russia Russia Russia led to covid covid covid led to Zelensky lighting his country on fire. Allegedly

    Maybe you and Vindman can get cocktails
    2015 Hillary was grasping at straws. It was fake news

    Russia actually invading their neighbors? Another Tuesday in world history
    Not under Trump

    If you weren't such a fucking blockhead you might get a clue

    Vindman and his ilk attacked American democracy just like they accused Trump

    I support America. Go suck Zelensky dick

    It all fake news. Hello?
    No shit. We agree on Trump.

    If you werent such a blockhead, youd understand that sometimes you cant have constant wet dreams about Trump and realize that life goes on
    So go ahead and reward the assholes who did it. Are you getting a cut or do you suck cock for free?


    It's all fucking fake.

    What is fucking fake about Russia being a constant menance to the world? Explain away that one...

    The isnt the first rodeo
    Ironic, because this describes you perfectly on this topic


    How so?

    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.

    Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.
    Who has defended anything that Russia has done?
    A good number of people in this thread
    Provide a specific example. Sounds like there’s a lot to choose from so should be easy.

    Acknowledging the realities of the situation as it stands is not defending anything. You refusing to do that is just fandom, not analysis.

    Lots of "Russia had no choice, NATO is expanding" sob stories, without understanding why NATO exists in the first place

    Lots of "bio weapon labs" takes to justify the invasion

    Lots of "Ukraine is full of Nazis" takes because they have a few groups of paramilitary Neo Nazis like every other country, including Russia


    All excuses the Russians themselves use to justfiy invasion and genocide.

    No one but a select few buys it
    Many on here think it’s an unwinnable situation as it stands. You think it can be done with an unlimited budget and timeline and that we should be spending money for punitive punishment.
    Disagree.

    Ive said several times this is peanuts to the US and it doesnt involve US troops


    Hope this helps.

    It doesn't.

    Allowing Russia to continue to invade and bully their neighbors will cost FAR more in the long run.

    And might actually involve US troops doing the fighting and dying

    If we can supply Ukraine with older weapons and let them do the fighting against the Russian horde, why not?

    This is what Bot and I have been saying

    It sucks this happened, it sucks Biden and the Dems routinely have this shit happening because they dont take hardline stances, everything about it sucks. But the milk is spilled, and Russia is getting a lesson in fuck around and find out.

    You are so delusional you called my picture of blown up Russian armour propaganda.
    Ok they had the lesson now lets negotiate a damn end to this so innocents on both sides stop dying... this song describes it best...

    https://youtu.be/LQUXuQ6Zd9w
    Just surrender the Rhineland comrade. It's the proper thing to do... for peace.
    Germany in 1939 is not Russia in 2023. If you leftards ever took some history classes you would know one is not like the other. And Russia in 2023 is not the Soviet Union of 1970. Estimated number of Soviets under arms during the cold war estimated at 5 million.
    Why?

    By all means, show off your deep knowledge of geopolitics you learned in world history 103.
  • 46XiJCAB46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967

    Goduckies said:

    pawz said:

    pawz said:

    Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.

    Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.
    Welcome to 2015 Hillary

    Get some new material

    Russia Russia Russia led to covid covid covid led to Zelensky lighting his country on fire. Allegedly

    Maybe you and Vindman can get cocktails
    2015 Hillary was grasping at straws. It was fake news

    Russia actually invading their neighbors? Another Tuesday in world history
    Not under Trump

    If you weren't such a fucking blockhead you might get a clue

    Vindman and his ilk attacked American democracy just like they accused Trump

    I support America. Go suck Zelensky dick

    It all fake news. Hello?
    No shit. We agree on Trump.

    If you werent such a blockhead, youd understand that sometimes you cant have constant wet dreams about Trump and realize that life goes on
    So go ahead and reward the assholes who did it. Are you getting a cut or do you suck cock for free?


    It's all fucking fake.

    What is fucking fake about Russia being a constant menance to the world? Explain away that one...

    The isnt the first rodeo
    Ironic, because this describes you perfectly on this topic


    How so?

    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.

    Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.
    Who has defended anything that Russia has done?
    A good number of people in this thread
    Provide a specific example. Sounds like there’s a lot to choose from so should be easy.

    Acknowledging the realities of the situation as it stands is not defending anything. You refusing to do that is just fandom, not analysis.

    Lots of "Russia had no choice, NATO is expanding" sob stories, without understanding why NATO exists in the first place

    Lots of "bio weapon labs" takes to justify the invasion

    Lots of "Ukraine is full of Nazis" takes because they have a few groups of paramilitary Neo Nazis like every other country, including Russia


    All excuses the Russians themselves use to justfiy invasion and genocide.

    No one but a select few buys it
    Many on here think it’s an unwinnable situation as it stands. You think it can be done with an unlimited budget and timeline and that we should be spending money for punitive punishment.
    Disagree.

    Ive said several times this is peanuts to the US and it doesnt involve US troops


    Hope this helps.

    It doesn't.

    Allowing Russia to continue to invade and bully their neighbors will cost FAR more in the long run.

    And might actually involve US troops doing the fighting and dying

    If we can supply Ukraine with older weapons and let them do the fighting against the Russian horde, why not?

    This is what Bot and I have been saying

    It sucks this happened, it sucks Biden and the Dems routinely have this shit happening because they dont take hardline stances, everything about it sucks. But the milk is spilled, and Russia is getting a lesson in fuck around and find out.

    You are so delusional you called my picture of blown up Russian armour propaganda.
    Ok they had the lesson now lets negotiate a damn end to this so innocents on both sides stop dying... this song describes it best...

    https://youtu.be/LQUXuQ6Zd9w
    Just surrender the Rhineland comrade. It's the proper thing to do... for peace.
    In 2022 Ukraine and Russia were making significant progress in negotiating an end to this War. The key was Russia pulling back and Ukraine renouncing NATO ambitions. Boris Johnson flew to Ukraine and blew it up. Why won't either you or PGOS address this?
  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 15,828 Swaye's Wigwam
    46XiJCAB said:

    Goduckies said:

    pawz said:

    pawz said:

    Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.

    Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.
    Welcome to 2015 Hillary

    Get some new material

    Russia Russia Russia led to covid covid covid led to Zelensky lighting his country on fire. Allegedly

    Maybe you and Vindman can get cocktails
    2015 Hillary was grasping at straws. It was fake news

    Russia actually invading their neighbors? Another Tuesday in world history
    Not under Trump

    If you weren't such a fucking blockhead you might get a clue

    Vindman and his ilk attacked American democracy just like they accused Trump

    I support America. Go suck Zelensky dick

    It all fake news. Hello?
    No shit. We agree on Trump.

    If you werent such a blockhead, youd understand that sometimes you cant have constant wet dreams about Trump and realize that life goes on
    So go ahead and reward the assholes who did it. Are you getting a cut or do you suck cock for free?


    It's all fucking fake.

    What is fucking fake about Russia being a constant menance to the world? Explain away that one...

    The isnt the first rodeo
    Ironic, because this describes you perfectly on this topic


    How so?

    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.

    Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.
    Who has defended anything that Russia has done?
    A good number of people in this thread
    Provide a specific example. Sounds like there’s a lot to choose from so should be easy.

    Acknowledging the realities of the situation as it stands is not defending anything. You refusing to do that is just fandom, not analysis.

    Lots of "Russia had no choice, NATO is expanding" sob stories, without understanding why NATO exists in the first place

    Lots of "bio weapon labs" takes to justify the invasion

    Lots of "Ukraine is full of Nazis" takes because they have a few groups of paramilitary Neo Nazis like every other country, including Russia


    All excuses the Russians themselves use to justfiy invasion and genocide.

    No one but a select few buys it
    Many on here think it’s an unwinnable situation as it stands. You think it can be done with an unlimited budget and timeline and that we should be spending money for punitive punishment.
    Disagree.

    Ive said several times this is peanuts to the US and it doesnt involve US troops


    Hope this helps.

    It doesn't.

    Allowing Russia to continue to invade and bully their neighbors will cost FAR more in the long run.

    And might actually involve US troops doing the fighting and dying

    If we can supply Ukraine with older weapons and let them do the fighting against the Russian horde, why not?

    This is what Bot and I have been saying

    It sucks this happened, it sucks Biden and the Dems routinely have this shit happening because they dont take hardline stances, everything about it sucks. But the milk is spilled, and Russia is getting a lesson in fuck around and find out.

    You are so delusional you called my picture of blown up Russian armour propaganda.
    Ok they had the lesson now lets negotiate a damn end to this so innocents on both sides stop dying... this song describes it best...

    https://youtu.be/LQUXuQ6Zd9w
    Just surrender the Rhineland comrade. It's the proper thing to do... for peace.
    In 2022 Ukraine and Russia were making significant progress in negotiating an end to this War. The key was Russia pulling back and Ukraine renouncing NATO ambitions. Boris Johnson flew to Ukraine and blew it up. Why won't either you or PGOS address this?
    Why does Russia have the right to dictate a sovereign nation's alliances under the threat of invasion and violence?

    Use your big boy words.
  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 15,375 Standard Supporter

    46XiJCAB said:

    Goduckies said:

    pawz said:

    pawz said:

    Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.

    Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.
    Welcome to 2015 Hillary

    Get some new material

    Russia Russia Russia led to covid covid covid led to Zelensky lighting his country on fire. Allegedly

    Maybe you and Vindman can get cocktails
    2015 Hillary was grasping at straws. It was fake news

    Russia actually invading their neighbors? Another Tuesday in world history
    Not under Trump

    If you weren't such a fucking blockhead you might get a clue

    Vindman and his ilk attacked American democracy just like they accused Trump

    I support America. Go suck Zelensky dick

    It all fake news. Hello?
    No shit. We agree on Trump.

    If you werent such a blockhead, youd understand that sometimes you cant have constant wet dreams about Trump and realize that life goes on
    So go ahead and reward the assholes who did it. Are you getting a cut or do you suck cock for free?


    It's all fucking fake.

    What is fucking fake about Russia being a constant menance to the world? Explain away that one...

    The isnt the first rodeo
    Ironic, because this describes you perfectly on this topic


    How so?

    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.

    Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.
    Who has defended anything that Russia has done?
    A good number of people in this thread
    Provide a specific example. Sounds like there’s a lot to choose from so should be easy.

    Acknowledging the realities of the situation as it stands is not defending anything. You refusing to do that is just fandom, not analysis.

    Lots of "Russia had no choice, NATO is expanding" sob stories, without understanding why NATO exists in the first place

    Lots of "bio weapon labs" takes to justify the invasion

    Lots of "Ukraine is full of Nazis" takes because they have a few groups of paramilitary Neo Nazis like every other country, including Russia


    All excuses the Russians themselves use to justfiy invasion and genocide.

    No one but a select few buys it
    Many on here think it’s an unwinnable situation as it stands. You think it can be done with an unlimited budget and timeline and that we should be spending money for punitive punishment.
    Disagree.

    Ive said several times this is peanuts to the US and it doesnt involve US troops


    Hope this helps.

    It doesn't.

    Allowing Russia to continue to invade and bully their neighbors will cost FAR more in the long run.

    And might actually involve US troops doing the fighting and dying

    If we can supply Ukraine with older weapons and let them do the fighting against the Russian horde, why not?

    This is what Bot and I have been saying

    It sucks this happened, it sucks Biden and the Dems routinely have this shit happening because they dont take hardline stances, everything about it sucks. But the milk is spilled, and Russia is getting a lesson in fuck around and find out.

    You are so delusional you called my picture of blown up Russian armour propaganda.
    Ok they had the lesson now lets negotiate a damn end to this so innocents on both sides stop dying... this song describes it best...

    https://youtu.be/LQUXuQ6Zd9w
    Just surrender the Rhineland comrade. It's the proper thing to do... for peace.
    In 2022 Ukraine and Russia were making significant progress in negotiating an end to this War. The key was Russia pulling back and Ukraine renouncing NATO ambitions. Boris Johnson flew to Ukraine and blew it up. Why won't either you or PGOS address this?
    Why does Russia have the right to dictate a sovereign nation's alliances under the threat of invasion and violence?

    Use your big boy words.
    Because they can and have nukes? I know that one nation wanting something from another nation and then having a war over it appears to be something new to you, but it really isn't.
  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 15,828 Swaye's Wigwam

    46XiJCAB said:

    Goduckies said:

    pawz said:

    pawz said:

    Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.

    Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.
    Welcome to 2015 Hillary

    Get some new material

    Russia Russia Russia led to covid covid covid led to Zelensky lighting his country on fire. Allegedly

    Maybe you and Vindman can get cocktails
    2015 Hillary was grasping at straws. It was fake news

    Russia actually invading their neighbors? Another Tuesday in world history
    Not under Trump

    If you weren't such a fucking blockhead you might get a clue

    Vindman and his ilk attacked American democracy just like they accused Trump

    I support America. Go suck Zelensky dick

    It all fake news. Hello?
    No shit. We agree on Trump.

    If you werent such a blockhead, youd understand that sometimes you cant have constant wet dreams about Trump and realize that life goes on
    So go ahead and reward the assholes who did it. Are you getting a cut or do you suck cock for free?


    It's all fucking fake.

    What is fucking fake about Russia being a constant menance to the world? Explain away that one...

    The isnt the first rodeo
    Ironic, because this describes you perfectly on this topic


    How so?

    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.

    Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.
    Who has defended anything that Russia has done?
    A good number of people in this thread
    Provide a specific example. Sounds like there’s a lot to choose from so should be easy.

    Acknowledging the realities of the situation as it stands is not defending anything. You refusing to do that is just fandom, not analysis.

    Lots of "Russia had no choice, NATO is expanding" sob stories, without understanding why NATO exists in the first place

    Lots of "bio weapon labs" takes to justify the invasion

    Lots of "Ukraine is full of Nazis" takes because they have a few groups of paramilitary Neo Nazis like every other country, including Russia


    All excuses the Russians themselves use to justfiy invasion and genocide.

    No one but a select few buys it
    Many on here think it’s an unwinnable situation as it stands. You think it can be done with an unlimited budget and timeline and that we should be spending money for punitive punishment.
    Disagree.

    Ive said several times this is peanuts to the US and it doesnt involve US troops


    Hope this helps.

    It doesn't.

    Allowing Russia to continue to invade and bully their neighbors will cost FAR more in the long run.

    And might actually involve US troops doing the fighting and dying

    If we can supply Ukraine with older weapons and let them do the fighting against the Russian horde, why not?

    This is what Bot and I have been saying

    It sucks this happened, it sucks Biden and the Dems routinely have this shit happening because they dont take hardline stances, everything about it sucks. But the milk is spilled, and Russia is getting a lesson in fuck around and find out.

    You are so delusional you called my picture of blown up Russian armour propaganda.
    Ok they had the lesson now lets negotiate a damn end to this so innocents on both sides stop dying... this song describes it best...

    https://youtu.be/LQUXuQ6Zd9w
    Just surrender the Rhineland comrade. It's the proper thing to do... for peace.
    In 2022 Ukraine and Russia were making significant progress in negotiating an end to this War. The key was Russia pulling back and Ukraine renouncing NATO ambitions. Boris Johnson flew to Ukraine and blew it up. Why won't either you or PGOS address this?
    Why does Russia have the right to dictate a sovereign nation's alliances under the threat of invasion and violence?

    Use your big boy words.
    Because they can and have nukes? I know that one nation wanting something from another nation and then having a war over it appears to be something new to you, but it really isn't.
    But nukes! And you idiots accuse me of not reading. Jfc.

    So if a nation has nukes we should surrender territory to them when they invade other nations?

    By all means, keep telling me you guys don't believe in appeasement.
  • pawzpawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 20,974 Founders Club

    46XiJCAB said:

    Goduckies said:

    pawz said:

    pawz said:

    Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.

    Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.
    Welcome to 2015 Hillary

    Get some new material

    Russia Russia Russia led to covid covid covid led to Zelensky lighting his country on fire. Allegedly

    Maybe you and Vindman can get cocktails
    2015 Hillary was grasping at straws. It was fake news

    Russia actually invading their neighbors? Another Tuesday in world history
    Not under Trump

    If you weren't such a fucking blockhead you might get a clue

    Vindman and his ilk attacked American democracy just like they accused Trump

    I support America. Go suck Zelensky dick

    It all fake news. Hello?
    No shit. We agree on Trump.

    If you werent such a blockhead, youd understand that sometimes you cant have constant wet dreams about Trump and realize that life goes on
    So go ahead and reward the assholes who did it. Are you getting a cut or do you suck cock for free?


    It's all fucking fake.

    What is fucking fake about Russia being a constant menance to the world? Explain away that one...

    The isnt the first rodeo
    Ironic, because this describes you perfectly on this topic


    How so?

    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.

    Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.
    Who has defended anything that Russia has done?
    A good number of people in this thread
    Provide a specific example. Sounds like there’s a lot to choose from so should be easy.

    Acknowledging the realities of the situation as it stands is not defending anything. You refusing to do that is just fandom, not analysis.

    Lots of "Russia had no choice, NATO is expanding" sob stories, without understanding why NATO exists in the first place

    Lots of "bio weapon labs" takes to justify the invasion

    Lots of "Ukraine is full of Nazis" takes because they have a few groups of paramilitary Neo Nazis like every other country, including Russia


    All excuses the Russians themselves use to justfiy invasion and genocide.

    No one but a select few buys it
    Many on here think it’s an unwinnable situation as it stands. You think it can be done with an unlimited budget and timeline and that we should be spending money for punitive punishment.
    Disagree.

    Ive said several times this is peanuts to the US and it doesnt involve US troops


    Hope this helps.

    It doesn't.

    Allowing Russia to continue to invade and bully their neighbors will cost FAR more in the long run.

    And might actually involve US troops doing the fighting and dying

    If we can supply Ukraine with older weapons and let them do the fighting against the Russian horde, why not?

    This is what Bot and I have been saying

    It sucks this happened, it sucks Biden and the Dems routinely have this shit happening because they dont take hardline stances, everything about it sucks. But the milk is spilled, and Russia is getting a lesson in fuck around and find out.

    You are so delusional you called my picture of blown up Russian armour propaganda.
    Ok they had the lesson now lets negotiate a damn end to this so innocents on both sides stop dying... this song describes it best...

    https://youtu.be/LQUXuQ6Zd9w
    Just surrender the Rhineland comrade. It's the proper thing to do... for peace.
    In 2022 Ukraine and Russia were making significant progress in negotiating an end to this War. The key was Russia pulling back and Ukraine renouncing NATO ambitions. Boris Johnson flew to Ukraine and blew it up. Why won't either you or PGOS address this?
    Why does Russia have the right to dictate a sovereign nation's alliances under the threat of invasion and violence?

    Use your big boy words.
    Let’s say, for the sake of discussion, Mexico joined an alliance with a China or a Russia. Then let’s say that 3rd party decided to put weapons systems on our southern border.

    How would you expect the US to respond? Would you support, say, South Africa saying the US has no right to dictate Mexico’s alliances?

    Run me through the thought-tree there. TIA.


  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,238 Standard Supporter

    Goduckies said:

    pawz said:

    pawz said:

    Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.

    Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.
    Welcome to 2015 Hillary

    Get some new material

    Russia Russia Russia led to covid covid covid led to Zelensky lighting his country on fire. Allegedly

    Maybe you and Vindman can get cocktails
    2015 Hillary was grasping at straws. It was fake news

    Russia actually invading their neighbors? Another Tuesday in world history
    Not under Trump

    If you weren't such a fucking blockhead you might get a clue

    Vindman and his ilk attacked American democracy just like they accused Trump

    I support America. Go suck Zelensky dick

    It all fake news. Hello?
    No shit. We agree on Trump.

    If you werent such a blockhead, youd understand that sometimes you cant have constant wet dreams about Trump and realize that life goes on
    So go ahead and reward the assholes who did it. Are you getting a cut or do you suck cock for free?


    It's all fucking fake.

    What is fucking fake about Russia being a constant menance to the world? Explain away that one...

    The isnt the first rodeo
    Ironic, because this describes you perfectly on this topic


    How so?

    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.

    Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.
    Who has defended anything that Russia has done?
    A good number of people in this thread
    Provide a specific example. Sounds like there’s a lot to choose from so should be easy.

    Acknowledging the realities of the situation as it stands is not defending anything. You refusing to do that is just fandom, not analysis.

    Lots of "Russia had no choice, NATO is expanding" sob stories, without understanding why NATO exists in the first place

    Lots of "bio weapon labs" takes to justify the invasion

    Lots of "Ukraine is full of Nazis" takes because they have a few groups of paramilitary Neo Nazis like every other country, including Russia


    All excuses the Russians themselves use to justfiy invasion and genocide.

    No one but a select few buys it
    Many on here think it’s an unwinnable situation as it stands. You think it can be done with an unlimited budget and timeline and that we should be spending money for punitive punishment.
    Disagree.

    Ive said several times this is peanuts to the US and it doesnt involve US troops


    Hope this helps.

    It doesn't.

    Allowing Russia to continue to invade and bully their neighbors will cost FAR more in the long run.

    And might actually involve US troops doing the fighting and dying

    If we can supply Ukraine with older weapons and let them do the fighting against the Russian horde, why not?

    This is what Bot and I have been saying

    It sucks this happened, it sucks Biden and the Dems routinely have this shit happening because they dont take hardline stances, everything about it sucks. But the milk is spilled, and Russia is getting a lesson in fuck around and find out.

    You are so delusional you called my picture of blown up Russian armour propaganda.
    Ok they had the lesson now lets negotiate a damn end to this so innocents on both sides stop dying... this song describes it best...

    https://youtu.be/LQUXuQ6Zd9w
    Just surrender the Rhineland comrade. It's the proper thing to do... for peace.
    That's Godwin's Law, right thur.

  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 15,828 Swaye's Wigwam
    pawz said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Goduckies said:

    pawz said:

    pawz said:

    Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.

    Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.
    Welcome to 2015 Hillary

    Get some new material

    Russia Russia Russia led to covid covid covid led to Zelensky lighting his country on fire. Allegedly

    Maybe you and Vindman can get cocktails
    2015 Hillary was grasping at straws. It was fake news

    Russia actually invading their neighbors? Another Tuesday in world history
    Not under Trump

    If you weren't such a fucking blockhead you might get a clue

    Vindman and his ilk attacked American democracy just like they accused Trump

    I support America. Go suck Zelensky dick

    It all fake news. Hello?
    No shit. We agree on Trump.

    If you werent such a blockhead, youd understand that sometimes you cant have constant wet dreams about Trump and realize that life goes on
    So go ahead and reward the assholes who did it. Are you getting a cut or do you suck cock for free?


    It's all fucking fake.

    What is fucking fake about Russia being a constant menance to the world? Explain away that one...

    The isnt the first rodeo
    Ironic, because this describes you perfectly on this topic


    How so?

    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.

    Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.
    Who has defended anything that Russia has done?
    A good number of people in this thread
    Provide a specific example. Sounds like there’s a lot to choose from so should be easy.

    Acknowledging the realities of the situation as it stands is not defending anything. You refusing to do that is just fandom, not analysis.

    Lots of "Russia had no choice, NATO is expanding" sob stories, without understanding why NATO exists in the first place

    Lots of "bio weapon labs" takes to justify the invasion

    Lots of "Ukraine is full of Nazis" takes because they have a few groups of paramilitary Neo Nazis like every other country, including Russia


    All excuses the Russians themselves use to justfiy invasion and genocide.

    No one but a select few buys it
    Many on here think it’s an unwinnable situation as it stands. You think it can be done with an unlimited budget and timeline and that we should be spending money for punitive punishment.
    Disagree.

    Ive said several times this is peanuts to the US and it doesnt involve US troops


    Hope this helps.

    It doesn't.

    Allowing Russia to continue to invade and bully their neighbors will cost FAR more in the long run.

    And might actually involve US troops doing the fighting and dying

    If we can supply Ukraine with older weapons and let them do the fighting against the Russian horde, why not?

    This is what Bot and I have been saying

    It sucks this happened, it sucks Biden and the Dems routinely have this shit happening because they dont take hardline stances, everything about it sucks. But the milk is spilled, and Russia is getting a lesson in fuck around and find out.

    You are so delusional you called my picture of blown up Russian armour propaganda.
    Ok they had the lesson now lets negotiate a damn end to this so innocents on both sides stop dying... this song describes it best...

    https://youtu.be/LQUXuQ6Zd9w
    Just surrender the Rhineland comrade. It's the proper thing to do... for peace.
    In 2022 Ukraine and Russia were making significant progress in negotiating an end to this War. The key was Russia pulling back and Ukraine renouncing NATO ambitions. Boris Johnson flew to Ukraine and blew it up. Why won't either you or PGOS address this?
    Why does Russia have the right to dictate a sovereign nation's alliances under the threat of invasion and violence?

    Use your big boy words.
    Let’s say, for the sake of discussion, Mexico joined an alliance with a China or a Russia. Then let’s say that 3rd party decided to put weapons systems on our southern border.

    How would you expect the US to respond? Would you support, say, South Africa saying the US has no right to dictate Mexico’s alliances?

    Run me through the thought-tree there. TIA.


    This is what about ism. Hth.

    But let's play the game. Why would Mexico want to align itself with either Russia or ChYnA?
  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 15,828 Swaye's Wigwam

    Goduckies said:

    pawz said:

    pawz said:

    Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.

    Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.
    Welcome to 2015 Hillary

    Get some new material

    Russia Russia Russia led to covid covid covid led to Zelensky lighting his country on fire. Allegedly

    Maybe you and Vindman can get cocktails
    2015 Hillary was grasping at straws. It was fake news

    Russia actually invading their neighbors? Another Tuesday in world history
    Not under Trump

    If you weren't such a fucking blockhead you might get a clue

    Vindman and his ilk attacked American democracy just like they accused Trump

    I support America. Go suck Zelensky dick

    It all fake news. Hello?
    No shit. We agree on Trump.

    If you werent such a blockhead, youd understand that sometimes you cant have constant wet dreams about Trump and realize that life goes on
    So go ahead and reward the assholes who did it. Are you getting a cut or do you suck cock for free?


    It's all fucking fake.

    What is fucking fake about Russia being a constant menance to the world? Explain away that one...

    The isnt the first rodeo
    Ironic, because this describes you perfectly on this topic


    How so?

    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.

    Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.
    Who has defended anything that Russia has done?
    A good number of people in this thread
    Provide a specific example. Sounds like there’s a lot to choose from so should be easy.

    Acknowledging the realities of the situation as it stands is not defending anything. You refusing to do that is just fandom, not analysis.

    Lots of "Russia had no choice, NATO is expanding" sob stories, without understanding why NATO exists in the first place

    Lots of "bio weapon labs" takes to justify the invasion

    Lots of "Ukraine is full of Nazis" takes because they have a few groups of paramilitary Neo Nazis like every other country, including Russia


    All excuses the Russians themselves use to justfiy invasion and genocide.

    No one but a select few buys it
    Many on here think it’s an unwinnable situation as it stands. You think it can be done with an unlimited budget and timeline and that we should be spending money for punitive punishment.
    Disagree.

    Ive said several times this is peanuts to the US and it doesnt involve US troops


    Hope this helps.

    It doesn't.

    Allowing Russia to continue to invade and bully their neighbors will cost FAR more in the long run.

    And might actually involve US troops doing the fighting and dying

    If we can supply Ukraine with older weapons and let them do the fighting against the Russian horde, why not?

    This is what Bot and I have been saying

    It sucks this happened, it sucks Biden and the Dems routinely have this shit happening because they dont take hardline stances, everything about it sucks. But the milk is spilled, and Russia is getting a lesson in fuck around and find out.

    You are so delusional you called my picture of blown up Russian armour propaganda.
    Ok they had the lesson now lets negotiate a damn end to this so innocents on both sides stop dying... this song describes it best...

    https://youtu.be/LQUXuQ6Zd9w
    Just surrender the Rhineland comrade. It's the proper thing to do... for peace.
    That's Godwin's Law, right thur.

    Actually it's not since I'm calling your group Neville Chamberlain.

    It used to be the right that recognized the failed ideologies of appeasement and isolationism but I digress.

    Take a HiSTorY ClAsS LeFTaRd! RoFL.
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,238 Standard Supporter
    edited March 2023

    pawz said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Goduckies said:

    pawz said:

    pawz said:

    Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.

    Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.
    Welcome to 2015 Hillary

    Get some new material

    Russia Russia Russia led to covid covid covid led to Zelensky lighting his country on fire. Allegedly

    Maybe you and Vindman can get cocktails
    2015 Hillary was grasping at straws. It was fake news

    Russia actually invading their neighbors? Another Tuesday in world history
    Not under Trump

    If you weren't such a fucking blockhead you might get a clue

    Vindman and his ilk attacked American democracy just like they accused Trump

    I support America. Go suck Zelensky dick

    It all fake news. Hello?
    No shit. We agree on Trump.

    If you werent such a blockhead, youd understand that sometimes you cant have constant wet dreams about Trump and realize that life goes on
    So go ahead and reward the assholes who did it. Are you getting a cut or do you suck cock for free?


    It's all fucking fake.

    What is fucking fake about Russia being a constant menance to the world? Explain away that one...

    The isnt the first rodeo
    Ironic, because this describes you perfectly on this topic


    How so?

    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.

    Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.
    Who has defended anything that Russia has done?
    A good number of people in this thread
    Provide a specific example. Sounds like there’s a lot to choose from so should be easy.

    Acknowledging the realities of the situation as it stands is not defending anything. You refusing to do that is just fandom, not analysis.

    Lots of "Russia had no choice, NATO is expanding" sob stories, without understanding why NATO exists in the first place

    Lots of "bio weapon labs" takes to justify the invasion

    Lots of "Ukraine is full of Nazis" takes because they have a few groups of paramilitary Neo Nazis like every other country, including Russia


    All excuses the Russians themselves use to justfiy invasion and genocide.

    No one but a select few buys it
    Many on here think it’s an unwinnable situation as it stands. You think it can be done with an unlimited budget and timeline and that we should be spending money for punitive punishment.
    Disagree.

    Ive said several times this is peanuts to the US and it doesnt involve US troops


    Hope this helps.

    It doesn't.

    Allowing Russia to continue to invade and bully their neighbors will cost FAR more in the long run.

    And might actually involve US troops doing the fighting and dying

    If we can supply Ukraine with older weapons and let them do the fighting against the Russian horde, why not?

    This is what Bot and I have been saying

    It sucks this happened, it sucks Biden and the Dems routinely have this shit happening because they dont take hardline stances, everything about it sucks. But the milk is spilled, and Russia is getting a lesson in fuck around and find out.

    You are so delusional you called my picture of blown up Russian armour propaganda.
    Ok they had the lesson now lets negotiate a damn end to this so innocents on both sides stop dying... this song describes it best...

    https://youtu.be/LQUXuQ6Zd9w
    Just surrender the Rhineland comrade. It's the proper thing to do... for peace.
    In 2022 Ukraine and Russia were making significant progress in negotiating an end to this War. The key was Russia pulling back and Ukraine renouncing NATO ambitions. Boris Johnson flew to Ukraine and blew it up. Why won't either you or PGOS address this?
    Why does Russia have the right to dictate a sovereign nation's alliances under the threat of invasion and violence?

    Use your big boy words.
    Let’s say, for the sake of discussion, Mexico joined an alliance with a China or a Russia. Then let’s say that 3rd party decided to put weapons systems on our southern border.

    How would you expect the US to respond? Would you support, say, South Africa saying the US has no right to dictate Mexico’s alliances?

    Run me through the thought-tree there. TIA.


    This is what about ism. Hth.

    But let's play the game. Why would Mexico want to align itself with either Russia or ChYnA?
    I dunno - but playing your historical equivalence style - you're familiar with the Zimmermann Telegram.

  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 106,018 Founders Club
    We know how America would react

    Cuba and the brink of nuclear war
  • BlueduckBlueduck Member Posts: 1,487
    edited March 2023
    pawz said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Goduckies said:

    pawz said:

    pawz said:

    Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.

    Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.
    Welcome to 2015 Hillary

    Get some new material

    Russia Russia Russia led to covid covid covid led to Zelensky lighting his country on fire. Allegedly

    Maybe you and Vindman can get cocktails
    2015 Hillary was grasping at straws. It was fake news

    Russia actually invading their neighbors? Another Tuesday in world history
    Not under Trump

    If you weren't such a fucking blockhead you might get a clue

    Vindman and his ilk attacked American democracy just like they accused Trump

    I support America. Go suck Zelensky dick

    It all fake news. Hello?
    No shit. We agree on Trump.

    If you werent such a blockhead, youd understand that sometimes you cant have constant wet dreams about Trump and realize that life goes on
    So go ahead and reward the assholes who did it. Are you getting a cut or do you suck cock for free?


    It's all fucking fake.

    What is fucking fake about Russia being a constant menance to the world? Explain away that one...

    The isnt the first rodeo
    Ironic, because this describes you perfectly on this topic


    How so?

    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.

    Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.
    Who has defended anything that Russia has done?
    A good number of people in this thread
    Provide a specific example. Sounds like there’s a lot to choose from so should be easy.

    Acknowledging the realities of the situation as it stands is not defending anything. You refusing to do that is just fandom, not analysis.

    Lots of "Russia had no choice, NATO is expanding" sob stories, without understanding why NATO exists in the first place

    Lots of "bio weapon labs" takes to justify the invasion

    Lots of "Ukraine is full of Nazis" takes because they have a few groups of paramilitary Neo Nazis like every other country, including Russia


    All excuses the Russians themselves use to justfiy invasion and genocide.

    No one but a select few buys it
    Many on here think it’s an unwinnable situation as it stands. You think it can be done with an unlimited budget and timeline and that we should be spending money for punitive punishment.
    Disagree.

    Ive said several times this is peanuts to the US and it doesnt involve US troops


    Hope this helps.

    It doesn't.

    Allowing Russia to continue to invade and bully their neighbors will cost FAR more in the long run.

    And might actually involve US troops doing the fighting and dying

    If we can supply Ukraine with older weapons and let them do the fighting against the Russian horde, why not?

    This is what Bot and I have been saying

    It sucks this happened, it sucks Biden and the Dems routinely have this shit happening because they dont take hardline stances, everything about it sucks. But the milk is spilled, and Russia is getting a lesson in fuck around and find out.

    You are so delusional you called my picture of blown up Russian armour propaganda.
    Ok they had the lesson now lets negotiate a damn end to this so innocents on both sides stop dying... this song describes it best...

    https://youtu.be/LQUXuQ6Zd9w
    Just surrender the Rhineland comrade. It's the proper thing to do... for peace.
    In 2022 Ukraine and Russia were making significant progress in negotiating an end to this War. The key was Russia pulling back and Ukraine renouncing NATO ambitions. Boris Johnson flew to Ukraine and blew it up. Why won't either you or PGOS address this?
    Why does Russia have the right to dictate a sovereign nation's alliances under the threat of invasion and violence?

    Use your big boy words.
    Let’s say, for the sake of discussion, Mexico joined an alliance with a China or a Russia. Then let’s say that 3rd party decided to put weapons systems on our southern border.

    How would you expect the US to respond? Would you support, say, South Africa saying the US has no right to dictate Mexico’s alliances?

    Run me through the thought-tree there. TIA.


    Pssssst,
    Whatever you do..

    Don't mention the genocide of the Russian people in the Donbass and surrounding areas that has been going on 10 years now and carried out by the Ukrainian puppet govt since the US led coup to remove a democratically elected president and replace him with someone the US wanted back in 2013-14.

    Don't mention that part!
  • pawzpawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 20,974 Founders Club
    edited March 2023

    pawz said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Goduckies said:

    pawz said:

    pawz said:

    Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.

    Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.
    Welcome to 2015 Hillary

    Get some new material

    Russia Russia Russia led to covid covid covid led to Zelensky lighting his country on fire. Allegedly

    Maybe you and Vindman can get cocktails
    2015 Hillary was grasping at straws. It was fake news

    Russia actually invading their neighbors? Another Tuesday in world history
    Not under Trump

    If you weren't such a fucking blockhead you might get a clue

    Vindman and his ilk attacked American democracy just like they accused Trump

    I support America. Go suck Zelensky dick

    It all fake news. Hello?
    No shit. We agree on Trump.

    If you werent such a blockhead, youd understand that sometimes you cant have constant wet dreams about Trump and realize that life goes on
    So go ahead and reward the assholes who did it. Are you getting a cut or do you suck cock for free?


    It's all fucking fake.

    What is fucking fake about Russia being a constant menance to the world? Explain away that one...

    The isnt the first rodeo
    Ironic, because this describes you perfectly on this topic


    How so?

    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.

    Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.
    Who has defended anything that Russia has done?
    A good number of people in this thread
    Provide a specific example. Sounds like there’s a lot to choose from so should be easy.

    Acknowledging the realities of the situation as it stands is not defending anything. You refusing to do that is just fandom, not analysis.

    Lots of "Russia had no choice, NATO is expanding" sob stories, without understanding why NATO exists in the first place

    Lots of "bio weapon labs" takes to justify the invasion

    Lots of "Ukraine is full of Nazis" takes because they have a few groups of paramilitary Neo Nazis like every other country, including Russia


    All excuses the Russians themselves use to justfiy invasion and genocide.

    No one but a select few buys it
    Many on here think it’s an unwinnable situation as it stands. You think it can be done with an unlimited budget and timeline and that we should be spending money for punitive punishment.
    Disagree.

    Ive said several times this is peanuts to the US and it doesnt involve US troops


    Hope this helps.

    It doesn't.

    Allowing Russia to continue to invade and bully their neighbors will cost FAR more in the long run.

    And might actually involve US troops doing the fighting and dying

    If we can supply Ukraine with older weapons and let them do the fighting against the Russian horde, why not?

    This is what Bot and I have been saying

    It sucks this happened, it sucks Biden and the Dems routinely have this shit happening because they dont take hardline stances, everything about it sucks. But the milk is spilled, and Russia is getting a lesson in fuck around and find out.

    You are so delusional you called my picture of blown up Russian armour propaganda.
    Ok they had the lesson now lets negotiate a damn end to this so innocents on both sides stop dying... this song describes it best...

    https://youtu.be/LQUXuQ6Zd9w
    Just surrender the Rhineland comrade. It's the proper thing to do... for peace.
    In 2022 Ukraine and Russia were making significant progress in negotiating an end to this War. The key was Russia pulling back and Ukraine renouncing NATO ambitions. Boris Johnson flew to Ukraine and blew it up. Why won't either you or PGOS address this?
    Why does Russia have the right to dictate a sovereign nation's alliances under the threat of invasion and violence?

    Use your big boy words.
    Let’s say, for the sake of discussion, Mexico joined an alliance with a China or a Russia. Then let’s say that 3rd party decided to put weapons systems on our southern border.

    How would you expect the US to respond? Would you support, say, South Africa saying the US has no right to dictate Mexico’s alliances?

    Run me through the thought-tree there. TIA.


    This is what about ism. Hth.

    But let's play the game. Why would Mexico want to align itself with either Russia or ChYnA?
    No, it is not. It is a principled analogy based on a principle you espoused that “[x-country does not] have the right to dictate a sovereign nation's alliances under the threat of invasion and violence?”

    Please to be defending said principle, or give valid reasons why y-variable might justifiably cause a deviation from principle.

    Thank you.


  • PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 26,200 Swaye's Wigwam
    Blueduck said:

    pawz said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Goduckies said:

    pawz said:

    pawz said:

    Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.

    Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.
    Welcome to 2015 Hillary

    Get some new material

    Russia Russia Russia led to covid covid covid led to Zelensky lighting his country on fire. Allegedly

    Maybe you and Vindman can get cocktails
    2015 Hillary was grasping at straws. It was fake news

    Russia actually invading their neighbors? Another Tuesday in world history
    Not under Trump

    If you weren't such a fucking blockhead you might get a clue

    Vindman and his ilk attacked American democracy just like they accused Trump

    I support America. Go suck Zelensky dick

    It all fake news. Hello?
    No shit. We agree on Trump.

    If you werent such a blockhead, youd understand that sometimes you cant have constant wet dreams about Trump and realize that life goes on
    So go ahead and reward the assholes who did it. Are you getting a cut or do you suck cock for free?


    It's all fucking fake.

    What is fucking fake about Russia being a constant menance to the world? Explain away that one...

    The isnt the first rodeo
    Ironic, because this describes you perfectly on this topic


    How so?

    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.

    Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.
    Who has defended anything that Russia has done?
    A good number of people in this thread
    Provide a specific example. Sounds like there’s a lot to choose from so should be easy.

    Acknowledging the realities of the situation as it stands is not defending anything. You refusing to do that is just fandom, not analysis.

    Lots of "Russia had no choice, NATO is expanding" sob stories, without understanding why NATO exists in the first place

    Lots of "bio weapon labs" takes to justify the invasion

    Lots of "Ukraine is full of Nazis" takes because they have a few groups of paramilitary Neo Nazis like every other country, including Russia


    All excuses the Russians themselves use to justfiy invasion and genocide.

    No one but a select few buys it
    Many on here think it’s an unwinnable situation as it stands. You think it can be done with an unlimited budget and timeline and that we should be spending money for punitive punishment.
    Disagree.

    Ive said several times this is peanuts to the US and it doesnt involve US troops


    Hope this helps.

    It doesn't.

    Allowing Russia to continue to invade and bully their neighbors will cost FAR more in the long run.

    And might actually involve US troops doing the fighting and dying

    If we can supply Ukraine with older weapons and let them do the fighting against the Russian horde, why not?

    This is what Bot and I have been saying

    It sucks this happened, it sucks Biden and the Dems routinely have this shit happening because they dont take hardline stances, everything about it sucks. But the milk is spilled, and Russia is getting a lesson in fuck around and find out.

    You are so delusional you called my picture of blown up Russian armour propaganda.
    Ok they had the lesson now lets negotiate a damn end to this so innocents on both sides stop dying... this song describes it best...

    https://youtu.be/LQUXuQ6Zd9w
    Just surrender the Rhineland comrade. It's the proper thing to do... for peace.
    In 2022 Ukraine and Russia were making significant progress in negotiating an end to this War. The key was Russia pulling back and Ukraine renouncing NATO ambitions. Boris Johnson flew to Ukraine and blew it up. Why won't either you or PGOS address this?
    Why does Russia have the right to dictate a sovereign nation's alliances under the threat of invasion and violence?

    Use your big boy words.
    Let’s say, for the sake of discussion, Mexico joined an alliance with a China or a Russia. Then let’s say that 3rd party decided to put weapons systems on our southern border.

    How would you expect the US to respond? Would you support, say, South Africa saying the US has no right to dictate Mexico’s alliances?

    Run me through the thought-tree there. TIA.


    Pssssst,
    Whatever you do..

    Don't mention the genocide of the Russian people in the Donbass and surrounding areas that has been going on and carried out by the Ukrainian puppet govt since the US led coup to remove a democratically elected president and replace him with someone the US wanted back in 2013-14.

    Don't mention that part!
    Complete horseshit
  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 15,828 Swaye's Wigwam

    pawz said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Goduckies said:

    pawz said:

    pawz said:

    Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.

    Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.
    Welcome to 2015 Hillary

    Get some new material

    Russia Russia Russia led to covid covid covid led to Zelensky lighting his country on fire. Allegedly

    Maybe you and Vindman can get cocktails
    2015 Hillary was grasping at straws. It was fake news

    Russia actually invading their neighbors? Another Tuesday in world history
    Not under Trump

    If you weren't such a fucking blockhead you might get a clue

    Vindman and his ilk attacked American democracy just like they accused Trump

    I support America. Go suck Zelensky dick

    It all fake news. Hello?
    No shit. We agree on Trump.

    If you werent such a blockhead, youd understand that sometimes you cant have constant wet dreams about Trump and realize that life goes on
    So go ahead and reward the assholes who did it. Are you getting a cut or do you suck cock for free?


    It's all fucking fake.

    What is fucking fake about Russia being a constant menance to the world? Explain away that one...

    The isnt the first rodeo
    Ironic, because this describes you perfectly on this topic


    How so?

    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.

    Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.
    Who has defended anything that Russia has done?
    A good number of people in this thread
    Provide a specific example. Sounds like there’s a lot to choose from so should be easy.

    Acknowledging the realities of the situation as it stands is not defending anything. You refusing to do that is just fandom, not analysis.

    Lots of "Russia had no choice, NATO is expanding" sob stories, without understanding why NATO exists in the first place

    Lots of "bio weapon labs" takes to justify the invasion

    Lots of "Ukraine is full of Nazis" takes because they have a few groups of paramilitary Neo Nazis like every other country, including Russia


    All excuses the Russians themselves use to justfiy invasion and genocide.

    No one but a select few buys it
    Many on here think it’s an unwinnable situation as it stands. You think it can be done with an unlimited budget and timeline and that we should be spending money for punitive punishment.
    Disagree.

    Ive said several times this is peanuts to the US and it doesnt involve US troops


    Hope this helps.

    It doesn't.

    Allowing Russia to continue to invade and bully their neighbors will cost FAR more in the long run.

    And might actually involve US troops doing the fighting and dying

    If we can supply Ukraine with older weapons and let them do the fighting against the Russian horde, why not?

    This is what Bot and I have been saying

    It sucks this happened, it sucks Biden and the Dems routinely have this shit happening because they dont take hardline stances, everything about it sucks. But the milk is spilled, and Russia is getting a lesson in fuck around and find out.

    You are so delusional you called my picture of blown up Russian armour propaganda.
    Ok they had the lesson now lets negotiate a damn end to this so innocents on both sides stop dying... this song describes it best...

    https://youtu.be/LQUXuQ6Zd9w
    Just surrender the Rhineland comrade. It's the proper thing to do... for peace.
    In 2022 Ukraine and Russia were making significant progress in negotiating an end to this War. The key was Russia pulling back and Ukraine renouncing NATO ambitions. Boris Johnson flew to Ukraine and blew it up. Why won't either you or PGOS address this?
    Why does Russia have the right to dictate a sovereign nation's alliances under the threat of invasion and violence?

    Use your big boy words.
    Let’s say, for the sake of discussion, Mexico joined an alliance with a China or a Russia. Then let’s say that 3rd party decided to put weapons systems on our southern border.

    How would you expect the US to respond? Would you support, say, South Africa saying the US has no right to dictate Mexico’s alliances?

    Run me through the thought-tree there. TIA.


    This is what about ism. Hth.

    But let's play the game. Why would Mexico want to align itself with either Russia or ChYnA?
    I dunno - but playing your historical equivalence style - you're familiar with the Zimmermann Telegram.

    Let's think about this though I know it's hard to differentiate, why is NATO more appealing than CSTO? No googling you leftards!
  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 15,828 Swaye's Wigwam
    pawz said:

    pawz said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Goduckies said:

    pawz said:

    pawz said:

    Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.

    Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.
    Welcome to 2015 Hillary

    Get some new material

    Russia Russia Russia led to covid covid covid led to Zelensky lighting his country on fire. Allegedly

    Maybe you and Vindman can get cocktails
    2015 Hillary was grasping at straws. It was fake news

    Russia actually invading their neighbors? Another Tuesday in world history
    Not under Trump

    If you weren't such a fucking blockhead you might get a clue

    Vindman and his ilk attacked American democracy just like they accused Trump

    I support America. Go suck Zelensky dick

    It all fake news. Hello?
    No shit. We agree on Trump.

    If you werent such a blockhead, youd understand that sometimes you cant have constant wet dreams about Trump and realize that life goes on
    So go ahead and reward the assholes who did it. Are you getting a cut or do you suck cock for free?


    It's all fucking fake.

    What is fucking fake about Russia being a constant menance to the world? Explain away that one...

    The isnt the first rodeo
    Ironic, because this describes you perfectly on this topic


    How so?

    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.

    Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.
    Who has defended anything that Russia has done?
    A good number of people in this thread
    Provide a specific example. Sounds like there’s a lot to choose from so should be easy.

    Acknowledging the realities of the situation as it stands is not defending anything. You refusing to do that is just fandom, not analysis.

    Lots of "Russia had no choice, NATO is expanding" sob stories, without understanding why NATO exists in the first place

    Lots of "bio weapon labs" takes to justify the invasion

    Lots of "Ukraine is full of Nazis" takes because they have a few groups of paramilitary Neo Nazis like every other country, including Russia


    All excuses the Russians themselves use to justfiy invasion and genocide.

    No one but a select few buys it
    Many on here think it’s an unwinnable situation as it stands. You think it can be done with an unlimited budget and timeline and that we should be spending money for punitive punishment.
    Disagree.

    Ive said several times this is peanuts to the US and it doesnt involve US troops


    Hope this helps.

    It doesn't.

    Allowing Russia to continue to invade and bully their neighbors will cost FAR more in the long run.

    And might actually involve US troops doing the fighting and dying

    If we can supply Ukraine with older weapons and let them do the fighting against the Russian horde, why not?

    This is what Bot and I have been saying

    It sucks this happened, it sucks Biden and the Dems routinely have this shit happening because they dont take hardline stances, everything about it sucks. But the milk is spilled, and Russia is getting a lesson in fuck around and find out.

    You are so delusional you called my picture of blown up Russian armour propaganda.
    Ok they had the lesson now lets negotiate a damn end to this so innocents on both sides stop dying... this song describes it best...

    https://youtu.be/LQUXuQ6Zd9w
    Just surrender the Rhineland comrade. It's the proper thing to do... for peace.
    In 2022 Ukraine and Russia were making significant progress in negotiating an end to this War. The key was Russia pulling back and Ukraine renouncing NATO ambitions. Boris Johnson flew to Ukraine and blew it up. Why won't either you or PGOS address this?
    Why does Russia have the right to dictate a sovereign nation's alliances under the threat of invasion and violence?

    Use your big boy words.
    Let’s say, for the sake of discussion, Mexico joined an alliance with a China or a Russia. Then let’s say that 3rd party decided to put weapons systems on our southern border.

    How would you expect the US to respond? Would you support, say, South Africa saying the US has no right to dictate Mexico’s alliances?

    Run me through the thought-tree there. TIA.


    This is what about ism. Hth.

    But let's play the game. Why would Mexico want to align itself with either Russia or ChYnA?
    No, it is not. It is a principled analogy based on a principle you espoused that “[x-country does not] have the right to dictate a sovereign nation's alliances under the threat of invasion and violence?”

    Please to be defending said principle, or give valid reasons why y-variable might justifiably cause a deviation from principle.

    Thank you.


    It is, in that regardless of how the US would act, it is a principle. That's the definition of what about ism.

    ATBS, I said I would play, now explain, why would Mexico want to align itself with either of those countries(existing) alliances?
  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 15,828 Swaye's Wigwam
    Blueduck said:

    pawz said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Goduckies said:

    pawz said:

    pawz said:

    Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.

    Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.
    Welcome to 2015 Hillary

    Get some new material

    Russia Russia Russia led to covid covid covid led to Zelensky lighting his country on fire. Allegedly

    Maybe you and Vindman can get cocktails
    2015 Hillary was grasping at straws. It was fake news

    Russia actually invading their neighbors? Another Tuesday in world history
    Not under Trump

    If you weren't such a fucking blockhead you might get a clue

    Vindman and his ilk attacked American democracy just like they accused Trump

    I support America. Go suck Zelensky dick

    It all fake news. Hello?
    No shit. We agree on Trump.

    If you werent such a blockhead, youd understand that sometimes you cant have constant wet dreams about Trump and realize that life goes on
    So go ahead and reward the assholes who did it. Are you getting a cut or do you suck cock for free?


    It's all fucking fake.

    What is fucking fake about Russia being a constant menance to the world? Explain away that one...

    The isnt the first rodeo
    Ironic, because this describes you perfectly on this topic


    How so?

    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.

    Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.
    Who has defended anything that Russia has done?
    A good number of people in this thread
    Provide a specific example. Sounds like there’s a lot to choose from so should be easy.

    Acknowledging the realities of the situation as it stands is not defending anything. You refusing to do that is just fandom, not analysis.

    Lots of "Russia had no choice, NATO is expanding" sob stories, without understanding why NATO exists in the first place

    Lots of "bio weapon labs" takes to justify the invasion

    Lots of "Ukraine is full of Nazis" takes because they have a few groups of paramilitary Neo Nazis like every other country, including Russia


    All excuses the Russians themselves use to justfiy invasion and genocide.

    No one but a select few buys it
    Many on here think it’s an unwinnable situation as it stands. You think it can be done with an unlimited budget and timeline and that we should be spending money for punitive punishment.
    Disagree.

    Ive said several times this is peanuts to the US and it doesnt involve US troops


    Hope this helps.

    It doesn't.

    Allowing Russia to continue to invade and bully their neighbors will cost FAR more in the long run.

    And might actually involve US troops doing the fighting and dying

    If we can supply Ukraine with older weapons and let them do the fighting against the Russian horde, why not?

    This is what Bot and I have been saying

    It sucks this happened, it sucks Biden and the Dems routinely have this shit happening because they dont take hardline stances, everything about it sucks. But the milk is spilled, and Russia is getting a lesson in fuck around and find out.

    You are so delusional you called my picture of blown up Russian armour propaganda.
    Ok they had the lesson now lets negotiate a damn end to this so innocents on both sides stop dying... this song describes it best...

    https://youtu.be/LQUXuQ6Zd9w
    Just surrender the Rhineland comrade. It's the proper thing to do... for peace.
    In 2022 Ukraine and Russia were making significant progress in negotiating an end to this War. The key was Russia pulling back and Ukraine renouncing NATO ambitions. Boris Johnson flew to Ukraine and blew it up. Why won't either you or PGOS address this?
    Why does Russia have the right to dictate a sovereign nation's alliances under the threat of invasion and violence?

    Use your big boy words.
    Let’s say, for the sake of discussion, Mexico joined an alliance with a China or a Russia. Then let’s say that 3rd party decided to put weapons systems on our southern border.

    How would you expect the US to respond? Would you support, say, South Africa saying the US has no right to dictate Mexico’s alliances?

    Run me through the thought-tree there. TIA.


    Pssssst,
    Whatever you do..

    Don't mention the genocide of the Russian people in the Donbass and surrounding areas that has been going on 10 years now and carried out by the Ukrainian puppet govt since the US led coup to remove a democratically elected president and replace him with someone the US wanted back in 2013-14.

    Don't mention that part!
    UN 3rd party found 7 deaths from mines/shelling per year in the region on average from 2014-2020.

    Good thing Russia invaded to save all those people in the Donbass!

    As mentioned elsewhere, maybe you've Googled back to 2014. I've been following this conflict since the Orange revolution. Go Google that.
  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 15,828 Swaye's Wigwam

    We know how America would react

    Cuba and the brink of nuclear war

    Tbf Biden would probably either surrender or whisper something unintelligible.

    Franny!?
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