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    pawzpawz Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,961
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    edited February 2023

    46XiJCAB said:

    Bob_C said:

    Smooth brain takes from both of you.

    The US, and NATO has spent how many billions, if not trillions, on R&D, weapon production, and all around planning for taking on a foe like Russia?

    Now, our surplus stock in the hands of Ex-Soviet block countries is absolutely SHREDDING big bad Russia. It's actually amazing to watch, if you follow it and don't just gargle Tucker's balls on the topic.

    We are basically eliminating Russia as a future threat to the world for pennies on the dollar.

    Yes, I know Ukraine is corrupt. Yes, I know Burisma is a thing. I don't give a shit.

    Russia is getting it's ass fucked by it's younger brother and Uncle Sam is getting a fantastic ROI. Plus, amazing intel on all things Russia - which has proven to be a complete paper tiger incapable of countering HIMARS artillery made by the US in...the 80s.

    China is watching this shitshow with concern, too. They would never be able to sniff Taiwan, and they now know it.

    The US can't even pay for it's own problems, why the fuck would you want to get an 'ROI" on a corrupt piece of shit country and their corrupt POS leader?

    If you can't grasp this is way, way, way more dangerous to our national security than Vietnam and Afghanistan, there's not much I can do for you. Backing Putin into a spot where both sides are openly discussing tactical nuclear deployment is unfathomable. But go ahead and virtue signal blue and yellow all you want. Russia and Ukraine conflicts go back centuries. We have no business there.

    This is shitty deal for the US and the fucking dementia patient who OK'd blowing up Russia's Nord Stream pipeline is going to be all hunkered down in his underground bunker eating ice cream while the rest of us have to sweat out the Cuban missile crisis Part 2.0. All over covering up his corrupt kid and pandering to all the shady shit the US has been funding in Ukraine.

    No thanks. Fuck "ROI". All it takes is that 'paper tiger' to launch a couple dozen nukes and we're all fucked.




    Russia isn't going to do a fucking thing with nukes.

    If the state of their nukes is anything close to the state of their army, 75% of them probably aren't even functional.

    Surplus military equipment from the 80s isn't going to benefit Kent and Kennewick. Might as well give it to Ukraine to help them defend their land from a Kim Grinolds esque dictator.

    Appeasement has worked so well in dealing with Russia in the past. Georgia, Chechnya, Crimea. You have to draw a line in the sand somewhere

    The hard on some people on the right have for Russia is flat out embarrassing. Grow some balls.
    Embarrassing venture into the tug.
    I'm 100% right on this topic.

    Defending democracy, even corrupt and struggling ones, is important. And we are doing it by giving said democracy old weapons and intelligence.

    Having Russia gobble up ex USSR countries is not good for anyone.

    The fact that Russia wasn't able to take down Ukraine in the first month of the war is embarrassing. The fact Russia can't even fly planes into Ukraine is embarrassing. The fact Russia is afraid to use the S-35 and T-14 in Ukraine is embarrassing. The fact Russia is pulling 50s and 60s tanks out of storage is embarrassing.

    Everything about this is embarrassing for Russia and incredible to watch. The takes you guys have on the matter are embarrassing, too.
    You clearly have not listened to any former military personnel talk about Russia’s overall approach to this war. Starting with their initial incursion. Which was encouraged by Joey.
    I have listened to plenty. The consensus is that this had been a disaster for Russia and they are absolutely fucked.


    https://www.businessinsider.com/top-us-general-says-russia-has-lost-the-ukraine-war-2023-2

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/feb/15/russian-army-has-lost-up-to-half-of-key-battle-tanks-analysts-estimate-ukraine

    https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/02/13/russia-putin-war-ukraine-disaster/

    https://nypost.com/2023/01/20/russia-has-significantly-more-than-100000-casualties-in-ukraine-milley/

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1736394/putin-troops-russia-casualties-wagner-group-mercenaries-uk-ministry-defence-update

    The consensus has been categorically wrong for over 6 years now.

    You keep lapping it up, boy.

    Obstinate.

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    pawzpawz Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,961
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    pawz said:

    I’m mocking Wikipedia and your source. Both operated by us Intelligence. Keep up.

    You really hate America
    pawz said:

    pawz said:

    I’m mocking Wikipedia and your source. Both operated by us Intelligence. Keep up.

    You really hate America
    Slander is all you have. You have nothing else.

    I want the US to be the beacon on the hill.

    Provoking a war with Russia does the opposite. It pushes Russia into bed with China. There is no scenario where that alliance ends well for us. If that alliance doesn't bother you, you are ignorant or arrogant or both.

    As always, pride cometh before the fall.


    I have cited my sources. You just dont like them.
    No kidding. Not only have they been wrong, they've LIED for more than 6 years.

    Maybe it will be different this tim?

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    PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,794
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    edited February 2023
    pawz said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Bob_C said:

    Smooth brain takes from both of you.

    The US, and NATO has spent how many billions, if not trillions, on R&D, weapon production, and all around planning for taking on a foe like Russia?

    Now, our surplus stock in the hands of Ex-Soviet block countries is absolutely SHREDDING big bad Russia. It's actually amazing to watch, if you follow it and don't just gargle Tucker's balls on the topic.

    We are basically eliminating Russia as a future threat to the world for pennies on the dollar.

    Yes, I know Ukraine is corrupt. Yes, I know Burisma is a thing. I don't give a shit.

    Russia is getting it's ass fucked by it's younger brother and Uncle Sam is getting a fantastic ROI. Plus, amazing intel on all things Russia - which has proven to be a complete paper tiger incapable of countering HIMARS artillery made by the US in...the 80s.

    China is watching this shitshow with concern, too. They would never be able to sniff Taiwan, and they now know it.

    The US can't even pay for it's own problems, why the fuck would you want to get an 'ROI" on a corrupt piece of shit country and their corrupt POS leader?

    If you can't grasp this is way, way, way more dangerous to our national security than Vietnam and Afghanistan, there's not much I can do for you. Backing Putin into a spot where both sides are openly discussing tactical nuclear deployment is unfathomable. But go ahead and virtue signal blue and yellow all you want. Russia and Ukraine conflicts go back centuries. We have no business there.

    This is shitty deal for the US and the fucking dementia patient who OK'd blowing up Russia's Nord Stream pipeline is going to be all hunkered down in his underground bunker eating ice cream while the rest of us have to sweat out the Cuban missile crisis Part 2.0. All over covering up his corrupt kid and pandering to all the shady shit the US has been funding in Ukraine.

    No thanks. Fuck "ROI". All it takes is that 'paper tiger' to launch a couple dozen nukes and we're all fucked.




    Russia isn't going to do a fucking thing with nukes.

    If the state of their nukes is anything close to the state of their army, 75% of them probably aren't even functional.

    Surplus military equipment from the 80s isn't going to benefit Kent and Kennewick. Might as well give it to Ukraine to help them defend their land from a Kim Grinolds esque dictator.

    Appeasement has worked so well in dealing with Russia in the past. Georgia, Chechnya, Crimea. You have to draw a line in the sand somewhere

    The hard on some people on the right have for Russia is flat out embarrassing. Grow some balls.
    Embarrassing venture into the tug.
    I'm 100% right on this topic.

    Defending democracy, even corrupt and struggling ones, is important. And we are doing it by giving said democracy old weapons and intelligence.

    Having Russia gobble up ex USSR countries is not good for anyone.

    The fact that Russia wasn't able to take down Ukraine in the first month of the war is embarrassing. The fact Russia can't even fly planes into Ukraine is embarrassing. The fact Russia is afraid to use the S-35 and T-14 in Ukraine is embarrassing. The fact Russia is pulling 50s and 60s tanks out of storage is embarrassing.

    Everything about this is embarrassing for Russia and incredible to watch. The takes you guys have on the matter are embarrassing, too.
    You clearly have not listened to any former military personnel talk about Russia’s overall approach to this war. Starting with their initial incursion. Which was encouraged by Joey.
    I have listened to plenty. The consensus is that this had been a disaster for Russia and they are absolutely fucked.


    https://www.businessinsider.com/top-us-general-says-russia-has-lost-the-ukraine-war-2023-2

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/feb/15/russian-army-has-lost-up-to-half-of-key-battle-tanks-analysts-estimate-ukraine

    https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/02/13/russia-putin-war-ukraine-disaster/

    https://nypost.com/2023/01/20/russia-has-significantly-more-than-100000-casualties-in-ukraine-milley/

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1736394/putin-troops-russia-casualties-wagner-group-mercenaries-uk-ministry-defence-update

    The consensus has been categorically wrong for over 6 years now.

    You keep lapping it up, boy.

    Obstinate.

    This has been 3-4 times deadlier for Russia in one year than for the US in entirety of the War in Vientam

    let that sink in
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    PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 42,223
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    edited February 2023
    @PostGameOrangeSlices -just curious. What search engine do you use?

    Because you are batting 100% on the talking points of the globalists.

    Oh, and fuck off.
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    pawzpawz Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,961
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    edited February 2023

    pawz said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Bob_C said:

    Smooth brain takes from both of you.

    The US, and NATO has spent how many billions, if not trillions, on R&D, weapon production, and all around planning for taking on a foe like Russia?

    Now, our surplus stock in the hands of Ex-Soviet block countries is absolutely SHREDDING big bad Russia. It's actually amazing to watch, if you follow it and don't just gargle Tucker's balls on the topic.

    We are basically eliminating Russia as a future threat to the world for pennies on the dollar.

    Yes, I know Ukraine is corrupt. Yes, I know Burisma is a thing. I don't give a shit.

    Russia is getting it's ass fucked by it's younger brother and Uncle Sam is getting a fantastic ROI. Plus, amazing intel on all things Russia - which has proven to be a complete paper tiger incapable of countering HIMARS artillery made by the US in...the 80s.

    China is watching this shitshow with concern, too. They would never be able to sniff Taiwan, and they now know it.

    The US can't even pay for it's own problems, why the fuck would you want to get an 'ROI" on a corrupt piece of shit country and their corrupt POS leader?

    If you can't grasp this is way, way, way more dangerous to our national security than Vietnam and Afghanistan, there's not much I can do for you. Backing Putin into a spot where both sides are openly discussing tactical nuclear deployment is unfathomable. But go ahead and virtue signal blue and yellow all you want. Russia and Ukraine conflicts go back centuries. We have no business there.

    This is shitty deal for the US and the fucking dementia patient who OK'd blowing up Russia's Nord Stream pipeline is going to be all hunkered down in his underground bunker eating ice cream while the rest of us have to sweat out the Cuban missile crisis Part 2.0. All over covering up his corrupt kid and pandering to all the shady shit the US has been funding in Ukraine.

    No thanks. Fuck "ROI". All it takes is that 'paper tiger' to launch a couple dozen nukes and we're all fucked.




    Russia isn't going to do a fucking thing with nukes.

    If the state of their nukes is anything close to the state of their army, 75% of them probably aren't even functional.

    Surplus military equipment from the 80s isn't going to benefit Kent and Kennewick. Might as well give it to Ukraine to help them defend their land from a Kim Grinolds esque dictator.

    Appeasement has worked so well in dealing with Russia in the past. Georgia, Chechnya, Crimea. You have to draw a line in the sand somewhere

    The hard on some people on the right have for Russia is flat out embarrassing. Grow some balls.
    Embarrassing venture into the tug.
    I'm 100% right on this topic.

    Defending democracy, even corrupt and struggling ones, is important. And we are doing it by giving said democracy old weapons and intelligence.

    Having Russia gobble up ex USSR countries is not good for anyone.

    The fact that Russia wasn't able to take down Ukraine in the first month of the war is embarrassing. The fact Russia can't even fly planes into Ukraine is embarrassing. The fact Russia is afraid to use the S-35 and T-14 in Ukraine is embarrassing. The fact Russia is pulling 50s and 60s tanks out of storage is embarrassing.

    Everything about this is embarrassing for Russia and incredible to watch. The takes you guys have on the matter are embarrassing, too.
    You clearly have not listened to any former military personnel talk about Russia’s overall approach to this war. Starting with their initial incursion. Which was encouraged by Joey.
    I have listened to plenty. The consensus is that this had been a disaster for Russia and they are absolutely fucked.


    https://www.businessinsider.com/top-us-general-says-russia-has-lost-the-ukraine-war-2023-2

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/feb/15/russian-army-has-lost-up-to-half-of-key-battle-tanks-analysts-estimate-ukraine

    https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/02/13/russia-putin-war-ukraine-disaster/

    https://nypost.com/2023/01/20/russia-has-significantly-more-than-100000-casualties-in-ukraine-milley/

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1736394/putin-troops-russia-casualties-wagner-group-mercenaries-uk-ministry-defence-update

    The consensus has been categorically wrong for over 6 years now.

    You keep lapping it up, boy.

    Obstinate.

    This has been 3-4 times deadlier for Russia in one year than for the US in entirety of the War in Vientam

    let that sink in
    Allegedly.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QR4jnW7u3Zw
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    PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,794
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    @PostGameOrangeSlices -just curious. What search engine do you use?

    Because you are batting 100% on the talking points of the globalists.

    Oh, and fuck off.

    The search engine that proved you wrong when you questioned me on the Ukranian/Turkish drone partnership?

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    pawzpawz Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,961
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    @PostGameOrangeSlices -just curious. What search engine do you use?

    Because you are batting 100% on the talking points of the globalists.

    Oh, and fuck off.

    Not being able to tell the difference - after the last 6 years - is what I find amazing. And appalling.

    @PostGameOrangeSlices

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    PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 42,223
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    @PostGameOrangeSlices -just curious. What search engine do you use?

    Because you are batting 100% on the talking points of the globalists.

    Oh, and fuck off.

    The search engine that proved you wrong when you questioned me on the Ukranian/Turkish drone partnership?

    I see.

    Google.

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    PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,794
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    @PostGameOrangeSlices -just curious. What search engine do you use?

    Because you are batting 100% on the talking points of the globalists.

    Oh, and fuck off.

    The search engine that proved you wrong when you questioned me on the Ukranian/Turkish drone partnership?

    I see.

    Google.

    Are you insinuating that Ukraine and Turkey do not have a partnership to build drones?

    Because any search engine will verify that for you buddy
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    PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 42,223
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    @PostGameOrangeSlices -just curious. What search engine do you use?

    Because you are batting 100% on the talking points of the globalists.

    Oh, and fuck off.

    The search engine that proved you wrong when you questioned me on the Ukranian/Turkish drone partnership?

    I see.

    Google.

    Are you insinuating that Ukraine and Turkey do not have a partnership to build drones?

    Because any search engine will verify that for you buddy
    You insinuate implicate yourself by refusing to answer the question.

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    pawzpawz Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,961
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    @PostGameOrangeSlices -just curious. What search engine do you use?

    Because you are batting 100% on the talking points of the globalists.

    Oh, and fuck off.

    The search engine that proved you wrong when you questioned me on the Ukranian/Turkish drone partnership?

    I see.

    Google.

    Are you insinuating that Ukraine and Turkey do not have a partnership to build drones?

    Because any search engine will verify that for you buddy
    You insinuate implicate yourself by refusing to answer the question.

    A growing list to be sure.

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    pawzpawz Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,961
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    @PostGameOrangeSlices -just curious. What search engine do you use?

    Because you are batting 100% on the talking points of the globalists.

    Oh, and fuck off.

    The search engine that proved you wrong when you questioned me on the Ukranian/Turkish drone partnership?

    I see.

    Google.

    Are you insinuating that Ukraine and Turkey do not have a partnership to build drones?

    Because any search engine will verify that for you buddy
    What shit-bit of difference does it make? It's a petty detail.

    This is how the globalist news keeps you engaged. You continue to fall for it. Putin is literally Hitler.


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    PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 42,223
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    pawz said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Bob_C said:

    Smooth brain takes from both of you.

    The US, and NATO has spent how many billions, if not trillions, on R&D, weapon production, and all around planning for taking on a foe like Russia?

    Now, our surplus stock in the hands of Ex-Soviet block countries is absolutely SHREDDING big bad Russia. It's actually amazing to watch, if you follow it and don't just gargle Tucker's balls on the topic.

    We are basically eliminating Russia as a future threat to the world for pennies on the dollar.

    Yes, I know Ukraine is corrupt. Yes, I know Burisma is a thing. I don't give a shit.

    Russia is getting it's ass fucked by it's younger brother and Uncle Sam is getting a fantastic ROI. Plus, amazing intel on all things Russia - which has proven to be a complete paper tiger incapable of countering HIMARS artillery made by the US in...the 80s.

    China is watching this shitshow with concern, too. They would never be able to sniff Taiwan, and they now know it.

    The US can't even pay for it's own problems, why the fuck would you want to get an 'ROI" on a corrupt piece of shit country and their corrupt POS leader?

    If you can't grasp this is way, way, way more dangerous to our national security than Vietnam and Afghanistan, there's not much I can do for you. Backing Putin into a spot where both sides are openly discussing tactical nuclear deployment is unfathomable. But go ahead and virtue signal blue and yellow all you want. Russia and Ukraine conflicts go back centuries. We have no business there.

    This is shitty deal for the US and the fucking dementia patient who OK'd blowing up Russia's Nord Stream pipeline is going to be all hunkered down in his underground bunker eating ice cream while the rest of us have to sweat out the Cuban missile crisis Part 2.0. All over covering up his corrupt kid and pandering to all the shady shit the US has been funding in Ukraine.

    No thanks. Fuck "ROI". All it takes is that 'paper tiger' to launch a couple dozen nukes and we're all fucked.




    Russia isn't going to do a fucking thing with nukes.

    If the state of their nukes is anything close to the state of their army, 75% of them probably aren't even functional.

    Surplus military equipment from the 80s isn't going to benefit Kent and Kennewick. Might as well give it to Ukraine to help them defend their land from a Kim Grinolds esque dictator.

    Appeasement has worked so well in dealing with Russia in the past. Georgia, Chechnya, Crimea. You have to draw a line in the sand somewhere

    The hard on some people on the right have for Russia is flat out embarrassing. Grow some balls.
    Embarrassing venture into the tug.
    I'm 100% right on this topic.

    Defending democracy, even corrupt and struggling ones, is important. And we are doing it by giving said democracy old weapons and intelligence.

    Having Russia gobble up ex USSR countries is not good for anyone.

    The fact that Russia wasn't able to take down Ukraine in the first month of the war is embarrassing. The fact Russia can't even fly planes into Ukraine is embarrassing. The fact Russia is afraid to use the S-35 and T-14 in Ukraine is embarrassing. The fact Russia is pulling 50s and 60s tanks out of storage is embarrassing.

    Everything about this is embarrassing for Russia and incredible to watch. The takes you guys have on the matter are embarrassing, too.
    You clearly have not listened to any former military personnel talk about Russia’s overall approach to this war. Starting with their initial incursion. Which was encouraged by Joey.
    I have listened to plenty. The consensus is that this had been a disaster for Russia and they are absolutely fucked.


    https://www.businessinsider.com/top-us-general-says-russia-has-lost-the-ukraine-war-2023-2

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/feb/15/russian-army-has-lost-up-to-half-of-key-battle-tanks-analysts-estimate-ukraine

    https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/02/13/russia-putin-war-ukraine-disaster/

    https://nypost.com/2023/01/20/russia-has-significantly-more-than-100000-casualties-in-ukraine-milley/

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1736394/putin-troops-russia-casualties-wagner-group-mercenaries-uk-ministry-defence-update

    The consensus has been categorically wrong for over 6 years now.

    You keep lapping it up, boy.

    Obstinate.

    You misspelled autistic.
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    pawzpawz Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,961
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    pawz said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Bob_C said:

    Smooth brain takes from both of you.

    The US, and NATO has spent how many billions, if not trillions, on R&D, weapon production, and all around planning for taking on a foe like Russia?

    Now, our surplus stock in the hands of Ex-Soviet block countries is absolutely SHREDDING big bad Russia. It's actually amazing to watch, if you follow it and don't just gargle Tucker's balls on the topic.

    We are basically eliminating Russia as a future threat to the world for pennies on the dollar.

    Yes, I know Ukraine is corrupt. Yes, I know Burisma is a thing. I don't give a shit.

    Russia is getting it's ass fucked by it's younger brother and Uncle Sam is getting a fantastic ROI. Plus, amazing intel on all things Russia - which has proven to be a complete paper tiger incapable of countering HIMARS artillery made by the US in...the 80s.

    China is watching this shitshow with concern, too. They would never be able to sniff Taiwan, and they now know it.

    The US can't even pay for it's own problems, why the fuck would you want to get an 'ROI" on a corrupt piece of shit country and their corrupt POS leader?

    If you can't grasp this is way, way, way more dangerous to our national security than Vietnam and Afghanistan, there's not much I can do for you. Backing Putin into a spot where both sides are openly discussing tactical nuclear deployment is unfathomable. But go ahead and virtue signal blue and yellow all you want. Russia and Ukraine conflicts go back centuries. We have no business there.

    This is shitty deal for the US and the fucking dementia patient who OK'd blowing up Russia's Nord Stream pipeline is going to be all hunkered down in his underground bunker eating ice cream while the rest of us have to sweat out the Cuban missile crisis Part 2.0. All over covering up his corrupt kid and pandering to all the shady shit the US has been funding in Ukraine.

    No thanks. Fuck "ROI". All it takes is that 'paper tiger' to launch a couple dozen nukes and we're all fucked.




    Russia isn't going to do a fucking thing with nukes.

    If the state of their nukes is anything close to the state of their army, 75% of them probably aren't even functional.

    Surplus military equipment from the 80s isn't going to benefit Kent and Kennewick. Might as well give it to Ukraine to help them defend their land from a Kim Grinolds esque dictator.

    Appeasement has worked so well in dealing with Russia in the past. Georgia, Chechnya, Crimea. You have to draw a line in the sand somewhere

    The hard on some people on the right have for Russia is flat out embarrassing. Grow some balls.
    Embarrassing venture into the tug.
    I'm 100% right on this topic.

    Defending democracy, even corrupt and struggling ones, is important. And we are doing it by giving said democracy old weapons and intelligence.

    Having Russia gobble up ex USSR countries is not good for anyone.

    The fact that Russia wasn't able to take down Ukraine in the first month of the war is embarrassing. The fact Russia can't even fly planes into Ukraine is embarrassing. The fact Russia is afraid to use the S-35 and T-14 in Ukraine is embarrassing. The fact Russia is pulling 50s and 60s tanks out of storage is embarrassing.

    Everything about this is embarrassing for Russia and incredible to watch. The takes you guys have on the matter are embarrassing, too.
    You clearly have not listened to any former military personnel talk about Russia’s overall approach to this war. Starting with their initial incursion. Which was encouraged by Joey.
    I have listened to plenty. The consensus is that this had been a disaster for Russia and they are absolutely fucked.


    https://www.businessinsider.com/top-us-general-says-russia-has-lost-the-ukraine-war-2023-2

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/feb/15/russian-army-has-lost-up-to-half-of-key-battle-tanks-analysts-estimate-ukraine

    https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/02/13/russia-putin-war-ukraine-disaster/

    https://nypost.com/2023/01/20/russia-has-significantly-more-than-100000-casualties-in-ukraine-milley/

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1736394/putin-troops-russia-casualties-wagner-group-mercenaries-uk-ministry-defence-update

    The consensus has been categorically wrong for over 6 years now.

    You keep lapping it up, boy.

    Obstinate.

    You misspelled autistic.
    Obstinate and autistic.

    Abundance.

    @PostGameOrangeSlices


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    PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,794
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    pawz said:

    @PostGameOrangeSlices -just curious. What search engine do you use?

    Because you are batting 100% on the talking points of the globalists.

    Oh, and fuck off.

    The search engine that proved you wrong when you questioned me on the Ukranian/Turkish drone partnership?

    I see.

    Google.

    Are you insinuating that Ukraine and Turkey do not have a partnership to build drones?

    Because any search engine will verify that for you buddy
    What shit-bit of difference does it make? It's a petty detail.

    This is how the globalist news keeps you engaged. You continue to fall for it. Putin is literally Hitler.


    It's another instance of you guys being wrong, this being proven wrong by evidence from multiple sources from right leaning, left leaning, and moderate websites, and then deflecting.
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    PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,794
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    pawz said:

    @PostGameOrangeSlices -just curious. What search engine do you use?

    Because you are batting 100% on the talking points of the globalists.

    Oh, and fuck off.

    The search engine that proved you wrong when you questioned me on the Ukranian/Turkish drone partnership?

    I see.

    Google.

    Are you insinuating that Ukraine and Turkey do not have a partnership to build drones?

    Because any search engine will verify that for you buddy
    What shit-bit of difference does it make? It's a petty detail.

    This is how the globalist news keeps you engaged. You continue to fall for it. Putin is literally Hitler.


    Hitler is Hitler, Putin is Putin

    Putin is doing his best invade his neighbors, 1930s style impersonation of Hitler, wouldn't you agree?
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    pawz said:

    @PostGameOrangeSlices -just curious. What search engine do you use?

    Because you are batting 100% on the talking points of the globalists.

    Oh, and fuck off.

    The search engine that proved you wrong when you questioned me on the Ukranian/Turkish drone partnership?

    I see.

    Google.

    Are you insinuating that Ukraine and Turkey do not have a partnership to build drones?

    Because any search engine will verify that for you buddy
    What shit-bit of difference does it make? It's a petty detail.

    This is how the globalist news keeps you engaged. You continue to fall for it. Putin is literally Hitler.


    It's another instance of you guys being wrong, this being proven wrong by evidence from multiple sources from right leaning, left leaning, and moderate websites, and then deflecting.
    Unlike you, I'm open to being wrong. Sometims I wish I was.

    However WE have not been wrong - going on 6 years.

    Hope this helps.

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    pawz said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Bob_C said:

    Smooth brain takes from both of you.

    The US, and NATO has spent how many billions, if not trillions, on R&D, weapon production, and all around planning for taking on a foe like Russia?

    Now, our surplus stock in the hands of Ex-Soviet block countries is absolutely SHREDDING big bad Russia. It's actually amazing to watch, if you follow it and don't just gargle Tucker's balls on the topic.

    We are basically eliminating Russia as a future threat to the world for pennies on the dollar.

    Yes, I know Ukraine is corrupt. Yes, I know Burisma is a thing. I don't give a shit.

    Russia is getting it's ass fucked by it's younger brother and Uncle Sam is getting a fantastic ROI. Plus, amazing intel on all things Russia - which has proven to be a complete paper tiger incapable of countering HIMARS artillery made by the US in...the 80s.

    China is watching this shitshow with concern, too. They would never be able to sniff Taiwan, and they now know it.

    The US can't even pay for it's own problems, why the fuck would you want to get an 'ROI" on a corrupt piece of shit country and their corrupt POS leader?

    If you can't grasp this is way, way, way more dangerous to our national security than Vietnam and Afghanistan, there's not much I can do for you. Backing Putin into a spot where both sides are openly discussing tactical nuclear deployment is unfathomable. But go ahead and virtue signal blue and yellow all you want. Russia and Ukraine conflicts go back centuries. We have no business there.

    This is shitty deal for the US and the fucking dementia patient who OK'd blowing up Russia's Nord Stream pipeline is going to be all hunkered down in his underground bunker eating ice cream while the rest of us have to sweat out the Cuban missile crisis Part 2.0. All over covering up his corrupt kid and pandering to all the shady shit the US has been funding in Ukraine.

    No thanks. Fuck "ROI". All it takes is that 'paper tiger' to launch a couple dozen nukes and we're all fucked.




    Russia isn't going to do a fucking thing with nukes.

    If the state of their nukes is anything close to the state of their army, 75% of them probably aren't even functional.

    Surplus military equipment from the 80s isn't going to benefit Kent and Kennewick. Might as well give it to Ukraine to help them defend their land from a Kim Grinolds esque dictator.

    Appeasement has worked so well in dealing with Russia in the past. Georgia, Chechnya, Crimea. You have to draw a line in the sand somewhere

    The hard on some people on the right have for Russia is flat out embarrassing. Grow some balls.
    Embarrassing venture into the tug.
    I'm 100% right on this topic.

    Defending democracy, even corrupt and struggling ones, is important. And we are doing it by giving said democracy old weapons and intelligence.

    Having Russia gobble up ex USSR countries is not good for anyone.

    The fact that Russia wasn't able to take down Ukraine in the first month of the war is embarrassing. The fact Russia can't even fly planes into Ukraine is embarrassing. The fact Russia is afraid to use the S-35 and T-14 in Ukraine is embarrassing. The fact Russia is pulling 50s and 60s tanks out of storage is embarrassing.

    Everything about this is embarrassing for Russia and incredible to watch. The takes you guys have on the matter are embarrassing, too.
    You clearly have not listened to any former military personnel talk about Russia’s overall approach to this war. Starting with their initial incursion. Which was encouraged by Joey.
    I have listened to plenty. The consensus is that this had been a disaster for Russia and they are absolutely fucked.


    https://www.businessinsider.com/top-us-general-says-russia-has-lost-the-ukraine-war-2023-2

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/feb/15/russian-army-has-lost-up-to-half-of-key-battle-tanks-analysts-estimate-ukraine

    https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/02/13/russia-putin-war-ukraine-disaster/

    https://nypost.com/2023/01/20/russia-has-significantly-more-than-100000-casualties-in-ukraine-milley/

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1736394/putin-troops-russia-casualties-wagner-group-mercenaries-uk-ministry-defence-update

    The consensus has been categorically wrong for over 6 years now.

    You keep lapping it up, boy.

    Obstinate.

    This has been 3-4 times deadlier for Russia in one year than for the US in entirety of the War in Vientam

    let that sink in
    I heard that the Ghost of Kiev personally killed thousands...
    Hold on a sec there, turbo. Sure, there are lots of casualties and deaths, but those are based on estimates, satellite imagery, and there's no reason for anyone to distort the numbers, is there? I mean, we just gotta trust them.
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    pawz said:

    pawz said:

    @PostGameOrangeSlices -just curious. What search engine do you use?

    Because you are batting 100% on the talking points of the globalists.

    Oh, and fuck off.

    The search engine that proved you wrong when you questioned me on the Ukranian/Turkish drone partnership?

    I see.

    Google.

    Are you insinuating that Ukraine and Turkey do not have a partnership to build drones?

    Because any search engine will verify that for you buddy
    What shit-bit of difference does it make? It's a petty detail.

    This is how the globalist news keeps you engaged. You continue to fall for it. Putin is literally Hitler.


    It's another instance of you guys being wrong, this being proven wrong by evidence from multiple sources from right leaning, left leaning, and moderate websites, and then deflecting.
    Unlike you, I'm open to being wrong. Sometims I wish I was.

    However WE have not been wrong - going on 6 years.

    Hope this helps.

    I am open to being wrong. So far, all you have provided are a few youtube soundbites from a couple of pundits.

    My position has not been called into question - that Putin invaded because he is trying to rekindle the USSR, that he and his commanders greatly overestimated Ukraine, that international support from a coalition of dozens of countries (including Pakistan and Turkey) would be this strong, and that Russia is actually amazingly getting defeated by Ukraine right now, as we speak. You have provided 0 evidence that this is not happening.

    You have said that Russia is retreating to the high ground as if to minimize the catastrophe of them being unable to capture Kyiv, Kherson, and Kharkiv a city 30 miles from its border.

    This are objective facts that can be verified. Stop acting like they aren't.
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    hardhat said:


    pawz said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Bob_C said:

    Smooth brain takes from both of you.

    The US, and NATO has spent how many billions, if not trillions, on R&D, weapon production, and all around planning for taking on a foe like Russia?

    Now, our surplus stock in the hands of Ex-Soviet block countries is absolutely SHREDDING big bad Russia. It's actually amazing to watch, if you follow it and don't just gargle Tucker's balls on the topic.

    We are basically eliminating Russia as a future threat to the world for pennies on the dollar.

    Yes, I know Ukraine is corrupt. Yes, I know Burisma is a thing. I don't give a shit.

    Russia is getting it's ass fucked by it's younger brother and Uncle Sam is getting a fantastic ROI. Plus, amazing intel on all things Russia - which has proven to be a complete paper tiger incapable of countering HIMARS artillery made by the US in...the 80s.

    China is watching this shitshow with concern, too. They would never be able to sniff Taiwan, and they now know it.

    The US can't even pay for it's own problems, why the fuck would you want to get an 'ROI" on a corrupt piece of shit country and their corrupt POS leader?

    If you can't grasp this is way, way, way more dangerous to our national security than Vietnam and Afghanistan, there's not much I can do for you. Backing Putin into a spot where both sides are openly discussing tactical nuclear deployment is unfathomable. But go ahead and virtue signal blue and yellow all you want. Russia and Ukraine conflicts go back centuries. We have no business there.

    This is shitty deal for the US and the fucking dementia patient who OK'd blowing up Russia's Nord Stream pipeline is going to be all hunkered down in his underground bunker eating ice cream while the rest of us have to sweat out the Cuban missile crisis Part 2.0. All over covering up his corrupt kid and pandering to all the shady shit the US has been funding in Ukraine.

    No thanks. Fuck "ROI". All it takes is that 'paper tiger' to launch a couple dozen nukes and we're all fucked.




    Russia isn't going to do a fucking thing with nukes.

    If the state of their nukes is anything close to the state of their army, 75% of them probably aren't even functional.

    Surplus military equipment from the 80s isn't going to benefit Kent and Kennewick. Might as well give it to Ukraine to help them defend their land from a Kim Grinolds esque dictator.

    Appeasement has worked so well in dealing with Russia in the past. Georgia, Chechnya, Crimea. You have to draw a line in the sand somewhere

    The hard on some people on the right have for Russia is flat out embarrassing. Grow some balls.
    Embarrassing venture into the tug.
    I'm 100% right on this topic.

    Defending democracy, even corrupt and struggling ones, is important. And we are doing it by giving said democracy old weapons and intelligence.

    Having Russia gobble up ex USSR countries is not good for anyone.

    The fact that Russia wasn't able to take down Ukraine in the first month of the war is embarrassing. The fact Russia can't even fly planes into Ukraine is embarrassing. The fact Russia is afraid to use the S-35 and T-14 in Ukraine is embarrassing. The fact Russia is pulling 50s and 60s tanks out of storage is embarrassing.

    Everything about this is embarrassing for Russia and incredible to watch. The takes you guys have on the matter are embarrassing, too.
    You clearly have not listened to any former military personnel talk about Russia’s overall approach to this war. Starting with their initial incursion. Which was encouraged by Joey.
    I have listened to plenty. The consensus is that this had been a disaster for Russia and they are absolutely fucked.


    https://www.businessinsider.com/top-us-general-says-russia-has-lost-the-ukraine-war-2023-2

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/feb/15/russian-army-has-lost-up-to-half-of-key-battle-tanks-analysts-estimate-ukraine

    https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/02/13/russia-putin-war-ukraine-disaster/

    https://nypost.com/2023/01/20/russia-has-significantly-more-than-100000-casualties-in-ukraine-milley/

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1736394/putin-troops-russia-casualties-wagner-group-mercenaries-uk-ministry-defence-update

    The consensus has been categorically wrong for over 6 years now.

    You keep lapping it up, boy.

    Obstinate.

    This has been 3-4 times deadlier for Russia in one year than for the US in entirety of the War in Vientam

    let that sink in
    I heard that the Ghost of Kiev personally killed thousands...
    Hold on a sec there, turbo. Sure, there are lots of casualties and deaths, but those are based on estimates, satellite imagery, and there's no reason for anyone to distort the numbers, is there? I mean, we just gotta trust them.

    The head of Wagner posted this today. In one area of the front:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineRussiaReport/comments/118uje2/ua_pov_prigozhin_publishes_photo_of_wagner_kia_in/
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