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  • RoadTripRoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,824 Founders Club
    MelloDawg said:

    HuskyJW said:

    He took an extremely hard, hit to the chest and immediately went into cardiac arrest

    But I like where you guys are going with he had a shot from two years ago, so that was what did it.

    Umm, I think you missed the part where a guy with “doctor” in his Twitter handle and no discernible credentials made a tweet about it.

    Confirmation bias: Located!
    Is this you being the smart guy in the room? Dude go blow your horn faggot.
  • HuskyJWHuskyJW Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 14,556 Swaye's Wigwam
    edited January 2023
    RoadTrip said:

    HuskyJW said:

    He took an extremely hard, hit to the chest and immediately went into cardiac arrest

    But I like where you guys are going with he had a shot from two years ago, so that was what did it.

    That's not what's happening JW. Speaking just for myself, I'm tired of being lied to and am asking logical questions. Perhaps you're closer to the subject matter than most but I can assure you I only want the truth. You and others who believe the government and want to take fraudulent vaccines are free to do so but you have NO right or authority to tell me what to do. This wasn't Comotio Cardis and yes eltlite athletes across the globe are dropping dead like never before. To deny this is insanity but understandable to one who has lived his whole life believing fobernment is good. It isn't, never has been and never will be.
    HuskyJW said:

    A gal from our? Women’s row boat team in the late 90s who I knew, dropped dead of a heart attack Mt biking around Tahoe about 10 Years ago. No warming. Just gone.

    I miss those simpler times. Freak shit just happened and that was that.

    pawz said:

    HuskyJW said:

    He took an extremely hard, hit to the chest and immediately went into cardiac arrest

    But I like where you guys are going with he had a shot from two years ago, so that was what did it.

    Extremely hard?

    Immediately?


    Wasn’t it within three seconds? Might have been less than that

    Regardless….. it was from the shot he had two years ago

    Don’t be so jaded and negative I’m agreeing with you guys
    2 years ago? Id be willing to bet you $10k he's had at least 1 booster in the last 12 months.
    Totally get it

    Just drove by a playground, and it looked like a Civil War reenactment.

    Something must be done about this horrific rise in hearts exploding
  • RoadTripRoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,824 Founders Club
    MelloDawg said:

    Here we go. How many hours before Iver's License is threatened to be pulled?

    He is not an epidemiologist or a bio-statistician so clearly disinformation.
    Excellent.

    Can I get my climate change information from Bill Nye then?
    You already do dipshit

    MelloDawg said:

    HuskyJW said:

    He took an extremely hard, hit to the chest and immediately went into cardiac arrest

    But I like where you guys are going with he had a shot from two years ago, so that was what did it.

    Umm, I think you missed the part where a guy with “doctor” in his Twitter handle and no discernible credentials made a tweet about it.

    Confirmation bias: Located!
    Anecdotal

    You and JW really should take a seat

    Your embarrassing the brand
    Where's fudgepack for the reacharound?
  • RoadTripRoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,824 Founders Club
    HuskyJW said:

    RoadTrip said:

    HuskyJW said:

    He took an extremely hard, hit to the chest and immediately went into cardiac arrest

    But I like where you guys are going with he had a shot from two years ago, so that was what did it.

    That's not what's happening JW. Speaking just for myself, I'm tired of being lied to and am asking logical questions. Perhaps you're closer to the subject matter than most but I can assure you I only want the truth. You and others who believe the government and want to take fraudulent vaccines are free to do so but you have NO right or authority to tell me what to do. This wasn't Comotio Cardis and yes eltlite athletes across the globe are dropping dead like never before. To deny this is insanity but understandable to one who has lived his whole life believing fobernment is good. It isn't, never has been and never will be.
    HuskyJW said:

    A gal from our? Women’s row boat team in the late 90s who I knew, dropped dead of a heart attack Mt biking around Tahoe about 10 Years ago. No warming. Just gone.

    I miss those simpler times. Freak shit just happened and that was that.

    pawz said:

    HuskyJW said:

    He took an extremely hard, hit to the chest and immediately went into cardiac arrest

    But I like where you guys are going with he had a shot from two years ago, so that was what did it.

    Extremely hard?

    Immediately?


    Wasn’t it within three seconds? Might have been less than that

    Regardless….. it was from the shot he had two years ago

    Don’t be so jaded and negative I’m agreeing with you guys
    2 years ago? Id be willing to bet you $10k he's had at least 1 booster in the last 12 months.
    Totally get it

    Just drove by a playground, and it looked like a Civil War reenactment.

    Something must be done about this horrific rise in hearts exploding
    If you're going to mock me, then don't send me any more private messages asking for a shoulder to cry on you fucking cunt.
  • pawzpawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 21,002 Founders Club
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    RoadTrip said:

    HuskyJW said:

    RoadTrip said:

    HuskyJW said:

    He took an extremely hard, hit to the chest and immediately went into cardiac arrest

    But I like where you guys are going with he had a shot from two years ago, so that was what did it.

    That's not what's happening JW. Speaking just for myself, I'm tired of being lied to and am asking logical questions. Perhaps you're closer to the subject matter than most but I can assure you I only want the truth. You and others who believe the government and want to take fraudulent vaccines are free to do so but you have NO right or authority to tell me what to do. This wasn't Comotio Cardis and yes eltlite athletes across the globe are dropping dead like never before. To deny this is insanity but understandable to one who has lived his whole life believing fobernment is good. It isn't, never has been and never will be.
    HuskyJW said:

    A gal from our? Women’s row boat team in the late 90s who I knew, dropped dead of a heart attack Mt biking around Tahoe about 10 Years ago. No warming. Just gone.

    I miss those simpler times. Freak shit just happened and that was that.

    pawz said:

    HuskyJW said:

    He took an extremely hard, hit to the chest and immediately went into cardiac arrest

    But I like where you guys are going with he had a shot from two years ago, so that was what did it.

    Extremely hard?

    Immediately?


    Wasn’t it within three seconds? Might have been less than that

    Regardless….. it was from the shot he had two years ago

    Don’t be so jaded and negative I’m agreeing with you guys
    2 years ago? Id be willing to bet you $10k he's had at least 1 booster in the last 12 months.
    Totally get it

    Just drove by a playground, and it looked like a Civil War reenactment.

    Something must be done about this horrific rise in hearts exploding
    If you're going to mock me, then don't send me any more private messages asking for a shoulder to cry on you fucking cunt.
    Dick pics?

    Axeing for a fren (@Mellodawg)

  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 106,076 Founders Club
    HuskyJW said:

    HuskyJW said:

    hearts exploding everywhere!!!!!

    People catching a cold

    JFC
    I do love how you will justify anything for your shitty behavior

    It’ll come out. HuskyJW always right
    What will come out?

    I don't need to justify anything

    Clearly you still do

    Don't catch a cold honey
  • whatshouldicareaboutwhatshouldicareabout Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,759 Swaye's Wigwam
    pawz said:

    pawz said:

    Dude61 said:
    Don't bring medical studies and peer reviewed papers into this. The libs don't deal in facts, only emotions.
    Is it peer reviewed? It's listed as "letter to editor".

    Letter uses absolute values instead of rates. How many athletes were in sports in 1966-2004 versus 2020-2022?

    What was the source of statistics for those years? Are they comparable in how they were taken? How reliable are those statistics? Where is the data for 2005-2019?

    What types of sports had the highest rate of cardiac injury? What about race?
    Great questions. Were any asked of the CV jab trials?

    No need to answer.

    The fact that Pfizer asked a federal judge to withhold answers for 75 years says it all.


    In this case, the author Dr Peter McCullough is the top cardiologist in the country. With over 600 peer-reviewed, published papers on his resume he is head and shoulders above the field. I think it's fair to say he's earned a bit of discretion if those questions aren't perfectly addressed (but likely are given his track record).


    I really hope this helps.


    They should've been asked and accounted for in the trials. And if people have questions or concerns, then they need to be addressed.

    I don't like that Pfizer wants to withhold answers either, but it's how pharma operates and it leads to distrust of medicine in the population.

    I don't care if McCullough is the top cardiologist in the country, these are basic questions in epidemiology and biostatistics. How do you do a cohort analysis when the two source populations are different?

    Bob_C said:

    pawz said:

    Dude61 said:
    Don't bring medical studies and peer reviewed papers into this. The libs don't deal in facts, only emotions.
    Is it peer reviewed? It's listed as "letter to editor".

    Letter uses absolute values instead of rates. How many athletes were in sports in 1966-2004 versus 2020-2022?

    What was the source of statistics for those years? Are they comparable in how they were taken? How reliable are those statistics? Where is the data for 2005-2019?

    What types of sports had the highest rate of cardiac injury? What about race?
    Great questions. Were any asked of the CV jab trials?

    No need to answer.

    The fact that Pfizer asked a federal judge to withhold answers for 75 years says it all.


    In this case, the author Dr Peter McCullough is the top cardiologist in the country. With over 600 peer-reviewed, published papers on his resume he is head and shoulders above the field. I think it's fair to say he's earned a bit of discretion if those questions aren't perfectly addressed (but likely are given his track record).


    I really hope this helps.


    They should've been asked and accounted for in the trials. And if people have questions or concerns, then they need to be addressed.

    I don't like that Pfizer wants to withhold answers either, but it's how pharma operates and it leads to distrust of medicine in the population.

    I don't care if McCullough is the top cardiologist in the country, these are basic questions in epidemiology and biostatistics. How do you do a cohort analysis when the two source populations are different?
    In theory, wouldn't a cardiologist be a better source of understanding and identifying side effects that effect the heart than an epidemiologist?
    Essentially, this is a database review which is a common form of surveillance to try to identify correlation between exposure and outcome. It doesn't appear to be more than identifying a statistic that an event happened (cardiac arrest) in an athlete (source population) given the vaccine (exposure). There would need to be control for confounding variables (race, age, gender, what sport they played, how long they played, etc.) to isolate how strong the outcome is correlated to the exposure. If the paper were more about reviewing the cases and determining whether a case was legitimately cardiac arrest or some other major cardiac event, then the cardiologist would be a much better fit.

    To me, one suggestion I have with the data he presented is that the demographics in the US changed such that there's going to be more background cases of cardiac arrest. It seems to occur more often in blacks and in soccer than say whites and baseball, and I'd wager that the percentage of blacks and soccer has grown since the 1960s to the 2020s. That said, there could be excess cardiac events because of the virus or the vaccine, but it's uncertain with how the data was presented in that letter.
    I'm not trying to be a dick because you don't spent much, if any, time in the Tug, but it sure would have been nice had the level of 'integrity' you require been applied on the front-side of the pandemic response and subsequently the jab.

    If you know on the front-side that Pharma is a bad-actor, why was it a good idea to allow them Laissez-faire whence problem solving?


    Since you are keen on epidemiology and biostatistics, are you familiar with The Great Barrington Declaration and the doctors behind it? They opined we did EVERYTHING wrong.

    If unfamiliar, allow me:

    https://gbdeclaration.org/

    3 principal signatories

    Dr. Jay Bhattacharya - professor at Stanford University Medical School, a physician, epidemiologist, health economist, and public health policy expert focusing on infectious diseases and vulnerable populations.
    Dr. Sunetra Gupta - professor at Oxford University, an epidemiologist with expertise in immunology, vaccine development, and mathematical modeling of infectious diseases.
    Dr. Martin Kulldorff - professor of medicine at Harvard University, a biostatistician, and epidemiologist with expertise in detecting and monitoring infectious disease outbreaks and vaccine safety evaluations.
    I did not know about the Barrington Declaration, but yeah, prolonged lockdowns had a damaging effect on society, especially around behavioral health and substance abuse.
  • haiehaie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 21,900 Swaye's Wigwam
    edited January 2023
    HuskyJW said:

    He took an extremely hard, hit to the chest and immediately went into cardiac arrest

    But I like where you guys are going with he had a shot from two years ago, so that was what did it.

    That sure didn't look like a hard hit and it's the most protected part of the body with that much padding.

    With his predisposition this would have happened playing 10+ other sports no one cries about.

    This could have happened taking a fucking charge in basketball.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 106,076 Founders Club
    RoadTrip said:

    HuskyJW said:

    RoadTrip said:

    HuskyJW said:

    He took an extremely hard, hit to the chest and immediately went into cardiac arrest

    But I like where you guys are going with he had a shot from two years ago, so that was what did it.

    That's not what's happening JW. Speaking just for myself, I'm tired of being lied to and am asking logical questions. Perhaps you're closer to the subject matter than most but I can assure you I only want the truth. You and others who believe the government and want to take fraudulent vaccines are free to do so but you have NO right or authority to tell me what to do. This wasn't Comotio Cardis and yes eltlite athletes across the globe are dropping dead like never before. To deny this is insanity but understandable to one who has lived his whole life believing fobernment is good. It isn't, never has been and never will be.
    HuskyJW said:

    A gal from our? Women’s row boat team in the late 90s who I knew, dropped dead of a heart attack Mt biking around Tahoe about 10 Years ago. No warming. Just gone.

    I miss those simpler times. Freak shit just happened and that was that.

    pawz said:

    HuskyJW said:

    He took an extremely hard, hit to the chest and immediately went into cardiac arrest

    But I like where you guys are going with he had a shot from two years ago, so that was what did it.

    Extremely hard?

    Immediately?


    Wasn’t it within three seconds? Might have been less than that

    Regardless….. it was from the shot he had two years ago

    Don’t be so jaded and negative I’m agreeing with you guys
    2 years ago? Id be willing to bet you $10k he's had at least 1 booster in the last 12 months.
    Totally get it

    Just drove by a playground, and it looked like a Civil War reenactment.

    Something must be done about this horrific rise in hearts exploding
    If you're going to mock me, then don't send me any more private messages asking for a shoulder to cry on you fucking cunt.
    It's only polite to share
  • 46XiJCAB46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    I'm convinced that the uptick in cardiac events tied to the vaxx deniers, are simply trying to convince themselves they're not a cardiac event waiting to happen.

    Hi JW!!
  • RoadTripRoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,824 Founders Club
    46XiJCAB said:

    I'm convinced that the uptick in cardiac events tied to the vaxx deniers, are simply trying to convince themselves they're not a cardiac event waiting to happen.

    Hi JW!!

    I don't wish this suffering on anyone regardless of their political persuasion but "we" were vilified and had a majority of demonrats calling for our arrest and worse and I won't be silenced now as innocent people continue to be damaged forever by this government corruption. We were right and will be proven moreso over time. "They" know this and they're terrified. My children were denied full educations and my daughter was forced more than once to be vaccinated by her Univesity. One of my sons was on his way to a sports scholarship but lost his last 2 seasons because of California's insanity. No fucking way am I backing down to anyone on this issue.
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,972 Standard Supporter
    46XiJCAB said:

    I’ve never understood why vax believers become so defensive when confronted with the fact that many of the things their overlords told them about COVID and what needed to be done in the name of science turned out to be BS.

    Denial?
    Embarrassment?
    Stupidity?
    Herd mentality?
    Pride?
    Virtue?
    Blissful ignorance?

    All of the above.

    Anxiety. And I can't blame them for it.

    Well, most of them, except the pricks.
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,972 Standard Supporter

    Here we go. How many hours before Iver's License is threatened to be pulled?

    He is not an epidemiologist or a bio-statistician so clearly disinformation.
    His bad.
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,972 Standard Supporter
    HuskyJW said:

    He took an extremely hard, hit to the chest and immediately went into cardiac arrest

    But I like where you guys are going with he had a shot from two years ago, so that was what did it.

    His last shot was on 12/26/22. But nice try.
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,278 Standard Supporter
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    pawz said:

    HuskyJW said:

    A gal from our? Women’s row boat team in the late 90s who I knew, dropped dead of a heart attack Mt biking around Tahoe about 10 Years ago. No warming. Just gone.

    I miss those simpler times. Freak shit just happened and that was that.

    pawz said:

    HuskyJW said:

    He took an extremely hard, hit to the chest and immediately went into cardiac arrest

    But I like where you guys are going with he had a shot from two years ago, so that was what did it.

    Extremely hard?

    Immediately?


    Wasn’t it within three seconds? Might have been less than that

    Regardless….. it was from the shot he had two years ago

    Don’t be so jaded and negative I’m agreeing with you guys
    Your history on the issue would suggest this is false.


    Allegedly he had a booster at Christmas.

    Look at the twitter thread from Dr Iver. The Dr. is pretty clear that had he succumbed to the malady that causes heart attacks via impact it would have been sudden and immediate. He never would have got up.

    The timing of his getting up before collapsing seems, by my untrained eye, the timeliness of a shot of adrenalin - the common precursor to cardiac arrest caused by myocarditis.



    *edit Race and his 53 fucking seconds
    I also saw the report that he had a booster on 12/26

    Allegedly.

  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,972 Standard Supporter
    HuskyJW said:

    RoadTrip said:

    HuskyJW said:

    He took an extremely hard, hit to the chest and immediately went into cardiac arrest

    But I like where you guys are going with he had a shot from two years ago, so that was what did it.

    That's not what's happening JW. Speaking just for myself, I'm tired of being lied to and am asking logical questions. Perhaps you're closer to the subject matter than most but I can assure you I only want the truth. You and others who believe the government and want to take fraudulent vaccines are free to do so but you have NO right or authority to tell me what to do. This wasn't Comotio Cardis and yes eltlite athletes across the globe are dropping dead like never before. To deny this is insanity but understandable to one who has lived his whole life believing fobernment is good. It isn't, never has been and never will be.
    HuskyJW said:

    A gal from our? Women’s row boat team in the late 90s who I knew, dropped dead of a heart attack Mt biking around Tahoe about 10 Years ago. No warming. Just gone.

    I miss those simpler times. Freak shit just happened and that was that.

    pawz said:

    HuskyJW said:

    He took an extremely hard, hit to the chest and immediately went into cardiac arrest

    But I like where you guys are going with he had a shot from two years ago, so that was what did it.

    Extremely hard?

    Immediately?


    Wasn’t it within three seconds? Might have been less than that

    Regardless….. it was from the shot he had two years ago

    Don’t be so jaded and negative I’m agreeing with you guys
    2 years ago? Id be willing to bet you $10k he's had at least 1 booster in the last 12 months.
    Totally get it

    Just drove by a playground, and it looked like a Civil War reenactment.

    Something must be done about this horrific rise in hearts exploding
    I found the Skip Bayless of these boreds.
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,278 Standard Supporter
    edited January 2023
    Welcome to the jungle @whatshouldicareabout


    If you’re new to the Barrington Declaration, thank the misinformationists/censors at Twitter and Facebook.

    A walk through the maximum carnage thread would be a fine education for you and others seeking enlightenment.
  • RoadTripRoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,824 Founders Club

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    pawz said:

    HuskyJW said:

    A gal from our? Women’s row boat team in the late 90s who I knew, dropped dead of a heart attack Mt biking around Tahoe about 10 Years ago. No warming. Just gone.

    I miss those simpler times. Freak shit just happened and that was that.

    pawz said:

    HuskyJW said:

    He took an extremely hard, hit to the chest and immediately went into cardiac arrest

    But I like where you guys are going with he had a shot from two years ago, so that was what did it.

    Extremely hard?

    Immediately?


    Wasn’t it within three seconds? Might have been less than that

    Regardless….. it was from the shot he had two years ago

    Don’t be so jaded and negative I’m agreeing with you guys
    Your history on the issue would suggest this is false.


    Allegedly he had a booster at Christmas.

    Look at the twitter thread from Dr Iver. The Dr. is pretty clear that had he succumbed to the malady that causes heart attacks via impact it would have been sudden and immediate. He never would have got up.

    The timing of his getting up before collapsing seems, by my untrained eye, the timeliness of a shot of adrenalin - the common precursor to cardiac arrest caused by myocarditis.



    *edit Race and his 53 fucking seconds
    I also saw the report that he had a booster on 12/26

    Allegedly.

    I looked into it further, and the claim looks to be false. It doesn't mean the guy hasn't had 4 or 5 shots though. Most of the NFL players have been forced into it.
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