Mariners baby, hot stove edition
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Verlander to the Mets for two years, $43 million per. Jesus. Houston was wise not to play along.
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If he toes the rubber 60 times in two years, $1.4mm per start…at 100 pitches per game, $14,000 per pitch. Nice work if you can get it…ok, I am done with maff for the month…chuck said:Verlander to the Mets for two years, $43 million per. Jesus. Houston was wise not to play along.
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Turner to Philly for 11 years, $300 million.
No way he resembles the same player at age 40, but it sounds like they went the long route rather than the same total value for less years for a reason. Basically accepting they'll be signing $27.5 million checks for a few years after he's well past his prime rather than closer to $40 mill for eight years. -
Their window is now, and Dombrowski is shooting his shot…they will have a decade to discuss the success or failure of his plan. Would have loved to see him with the M’s…chuck said:Turner to Philly for 11 years, $300 million.
No way he resembles the same player at age 40, but it sounds like they went the long route rather than the same total value for less years for a reason. Basically accepting they'll be signing $27.5 million checks for a few years after he's well past his prime rather than closer to $40 mill for eight years.
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Me too, but I don't think that's a winning strategy for the Ms unless they're ready to shift gears long term and jack their payroll cap by about 50-75 million per year. Turner (plus Julio) with Gilbert, Kirby, France and Raleigh would always be a good foundation, but they'll have to eventually pay those guys or equivalent too, plus supplement seasonally like they're doing now, or they'll just hover on the fringe of the playoffs.Fishpo31 said:
Their window is now, and Dombrowski is shooting his shot…they will have a decade to discuss the success or failure of his plan. Would have loved to see him with the M’s…chuck said:Turner to Philly for 11 years, $300 million.
No way he resembles the same player at age 40, but it sounds like they went the long route rather than the same total value for less years for a reason. Basically accepting they'll be signing $27.5 million checks for a few years after he's well past his prime rather than closer to $40 mill for eight years.
It'd be great if they were willing to start spending like the big boys. To me it seems like the revenue to pay for it is there for the taking. They have a huge bandwagon. Not one printed word I've read from Dipoto has indicated they were going that route though
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Haniger to the Giants, 3 years 43.5mm
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They have the core in place, and that changes the thinking a little bit. They play well together, as a team. To pay a truckload of cash to an established star looks great, but could mess with the vibe in the clubhouse. I think Turner and Swanson would be good fits in that way, but Correa is a little too edgy historically for me.chuck said:
Me too, but I don't think that's a winning strategy for the Ms unless they're ready to shift gears long term and jack their payroll cap by about 50-75 million per year. Turner (plus Julio) with Gilbert, Kirby, France and Raleigh would always be a good foundation, but they'll have to eventually pay those guys or equivalent too, plus supplement seasonally like they're doing now, or they'll just hover on the fringe of the playoffs.Fishpo31 said:
Their window is now, and Dombrowski is shooting his shot…they will have a decade to discuss the success or failure of his plan. Would have loved to see him with the M’s…chuck said:Turner to Philly for 11 years, $300 million.
No way he resembles the same player at age 40, but it sounds like they went the long route rather than the same total value for less years for a reason. Basically accepting they'll be signing $27.5 million checks for a few years after he's well past his prime rather than closer to $40 mill for eight years.
It'd be great if they were willing to start spending like the big boys. To me it seems like the revenue to pay for it is there for the taking. They have a huge bandwagon. Not one printed word I've read from Dipoto has indicated they were going that route though
When you've got a good thing going, trying to go for the kill shot can fuck everything up, for years, if it's not the right guy...
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I was never big on the idea of paying a new guy $300 million plus over 8-10 years. I think that eventually becomes a disaster and a 4-5 year program setback.Fishpo31 said:
They have the core in place, and that changes the thinking a little bit. They play well together, as a team. To pay a truckload of cash to an established star looks great, but could mess with the vibe in the clubhouse. I think Turner and Swanson would be good fits in that way, but Correa is a little too edgy historically for me.chuck said:
Me too, but I don't think that's a winning strategy for the Ms unless they're ready to shift gears long term and jack their payroll cap by about 50-75 million per year. Turner (plus Julio) with Gilbert, Kirby, France and Raleigh would always be a good foundation, but they'll have to eventually pay those guys or equivalent too, plus supplement seasonally like they're doing now, or they'll just hover on the fringe of the playoffs.Fishpo31 said:
Their window is now, and Dombrowski is shooting his shot…they will have a decade to discuss the success or failure of his plan. Would have loved to see him with the M’s…chuck said:Turner to Philly for 11 years, $300 million.
No way he resembles the same player at age 40, but it sounds like they went the long route rather than the same total value for less years for a reason. Basically accepting they'll be signing $27.5 million checks for a few years after he's well past his prime rather than closer to $40 mill for eight years.
It'd be great if they were willing to start spending like the big boys. To me it seems like the revenue to pay for it is there for the taking. They have a huge bandwagon. Not one printed word I've read from Dipoto has indicated they were going that route though
When you've got a good thing going, trying to go for the kill shot can fuck everything up, for years, if it's not the right guy...
What I am in favor of is them being willing to pay out another, I don't know, $25 mil per season and improve by two high ceiling bats. Dipoto seems to be setting everyone up to accept less than that, which sucks. It seems like more there's some rationalization of cheapness going on.
All talk though. I don't really know what they're doing. -
Well, the Yanks sign Judge, the Red Sox try to sign everyone (snagged the guy from Japan) and the Ms add a couple of rule 5 draft picks. No fun at all.
Oh yeah and picked Sadler back up on a minor league deal.
Clarke looks like a good pickup. Ground ball inducing stuff, low walks. I bet he's useful. -
Sounds like they are in the race on Nimmo.
