Mariners baby, hot stove edition

chuck

TSIO. Tume for a new thread. Here's a primer:
Seattle Sports: What’s the next step for Mariners’ George Kirby after big rookie season?.
https://sports.mynorthwest.com/1683159/whats-the-next-step-for-mariners-george-kirby-after-big-rookie-season/

Thanks Taft.

I dont think there's a better trio of power right handed starters than Castillo, Gilbert and Kirby. One is already an acez and the other two are on his heels. If you like starting pitching and these three stay healthy, this is about as good as it's ever going to get.

chuck

https://prospectinsider.com/mariners-hard-hit-rate-free-agent-targets-judge-correa-trea-turner-nimmo-swanson-bogaerts/

Thanks Taft.

DerekJohnson

thanks ChuckHIV!

Fishpo31

I like to dream how badly people will lose their shit (in the negative..."CHEATER!") when Dip signs Correa...

But seriously, folks, I think it could come down to Correa and Turner. Turner worries me slightly. He's a premium freak athletically, but I see a lot of coasting in how he plays (Why does he do it? Because he CAN)...I watched him a lot, and several times down the stretch he would just kick plays, with his base running as well, just bone-headed stuff that a polished top-end pro would never do. On the up side, Perry Hill could coach that out of him. He is one of the best infield coaches on the planet. Dependent upon the bazillion $$$ the Dodgers will attempt to throw at Judge. If Judge re-ups with NY, Turner will be a Dodger, IMO.

Correa can really play, and plays with an edge...would be interesting to see how that plays with chemistry, and the fact that, at age 21, Julio has become the leader of the clubhouse.

I feel that Swanson will stay with ATL. He's a Jaw-jaw guy, and to someone living the majority of his life in the souf, Seattle is another country, if not another planet...

If the Red Sox don't re-sign Bogaerts to build around, they may be running flea markets at Fenway.

In other news, I'm eagerly awaiting the next bullpen gem(s) that Dip uncovers...as Bob Lemon once said, "The two most important things in life are good friends and a strong bullpen"...

I expect Robbie Ray to bounce back next year, and for me there is room for Marco / Flexen. They both bring good stuff to the table, and six guys that can start is almost a necessity now-a-days. Start Hancock in Tacoma, and bring him up if needed / when ready...he goes into last year's Gilbert / this year's Kirby role...

If you bring in Nimmo, who plays CF? Michael Conforto may be worth a call, if they let Mitch walk...

Irregardless, Scott Boras is pricing mega yachts as I type this...

chuck

I haven't watched LA or Boston enough to have a fully formed opinion on which SS I'd prefer. Turner is an impressive, smooth athlete for sure. Honestly any of the first three would be fine with me.

If that's what they're doing at SS then they have to try to resign Haniger to a reasonable 3 year deal since they wouldn't have another $25mill+ available for an outfielder over multiple years. I'd rather see them lock in more of the young core beyond their club control years.

BleachedAnusDawg

Are the M's going to get rid of Frazier? That guy shouldn't be hitting on a AAA-roster, let alone in the bigs.

Fishpo31

BleachedAnusDawg said:

Are the M's going to get rid of Frazier? That guy shouldn't be hitting on a AAA-roster, let alone in the bigs.

He's a good hitter that had a down year...almost 40 points below career average. If they sign a SS, they replace him with JP, which would be a wash when looking at last year, but Frazier's track record offensively is better overall...I don't think they necessarily should re-sign Frazier, but there are definitely worse guys out there...

chuck

Fishpo31 said:

BleachedAnusDawg said:

Are the M's going to get rid of Frazier? That guy shouldn't be hitting on a AAA-roster, let alone in the bigs.

He's a good hitter that had a down year...almost 40 points below career average. If they sign a SS, they replace him with JP, which would be a wash when looking at last year, but Frazier's track record offensively is better overall...I don't think they necessarily should re-sign Frazier, but there are definitely worse guys out there...

A real second baseman catches that bloop single by Pena that allowed Alcarez to come up in game two and hit the go-ahed homer. His effort, especially given the situation, really frustrated me.

I agree hes a better hitter than he showed, but hes not a real good on base guy and doesnt have the power to hit anything out of Safeco. The best you can hope for from him is a .300 average and slightly higher obp with 2-3 homers and a handful of doubles. I think Crawford qould make a better 2b, with similar #s a around and a little more power..

BleachedAnusDawg

Fishpo31 said:

BleachedAnusDawg said:

Are the M's going to get rid of Frazier? That guy shouldn't be hitting on a AAA-roster, let alone in the bigs.

He's a good hitter that had a down year...almost 40 points below career average. If they sign a SS, they replace him with JP, which would be a wash when looking at last year, but Frazier's track record offensively is better overall...I don't think they necessarily should re-sign Frazier, but there are definitely worse guys out there...

Is Pittsburgh a hitter-friendly park? I know the narrative is that Safeco is where hitters stats go to die, but he just seemed like a guy who should only see the field when the starter takes a day off. I admittedly do not follow the team super closely, but paid more attention this year and down the stretch.

Fishpo31

BleachedAnusDawg said:

Fishpo31 said:

BleachedAnusDawg said:

Are the M's going to get rid of Frazier? That guy shouldn't be hitting on a AAA-roster, let alone in the bigs.

He's a good hitter that had a down year...almost 40 points below career average. If they sign a SS, they replace him with JP, which would be a wash when looking at last year, but Frazier's track record offensively is better overall...I don't think they necessarily should re-sign Frazier, but there are definitely worse guys out there...

Is Pittsburgh a hitter-friendly park? I know the narrative is that Safeco is where hitters stats go to die, but he just seemed like a guy who should only see the field when the starter takes a day off. I admittedly do not follow the team super closely, but paid more attention this year and down the stretch.

It is for power. I think the shift rules for next year will help him, and many other LHH. I recall him hitting quite a few seeds right at the rover this year. Not an endorsement to bring him back, just what I remember…

haie

They're missing the playoffs next year.