WTF is Climate Change?
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I don't care. No one can do a fucking thing about it one way or the other. It's just a matter of who gets rich off it.
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Clean, renewable, energy solutions.MikeDamone said:I don't care. No one can do a fucking thing about it one way or the other. It's just a matter of who gets rich off it.
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I care. I'm always hearing about how great this country is. I'd rather see us live up to that than shrug our shoulders and say "waddya gonna do?"
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CollegeDoog said:
Clean, renewable, energy solutions.MikeDamone said:I don't care. No one can do a fucking thing about it one way or the other. It's just a matter of who gets rich off it.
Hth
Great sound bites by you two. Now back to realityallpurpleallgold said:I care. I'm always hearing about how great this country is. I'd rather see us live up to that than shrug our shoulders and say "waddya gonna do?"
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The reality is America remains the world leader in energy and environment and technologies. You can stop worrying. Big Energy is on it
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Rex Tillerson
CEO, ExxonMobil
Under Tillerson, oil behemoth ExxonMobil posted the biggest corporate profits in history in 2008. At this year's annual meeting, Tillerson reassured shareholders that the oil economy will never disappear. And that's fine, said Tillerson, because "what good is it to save the planet if humanity suffers?" Aside from the direct impacts the company's fossil fuels have on intensifying climate change, under Tillerson the company has contributed millions to distorting public knowledge and understanding of climate science.
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/global-warmings-denier-elite-20130912
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Great sound bite.CollegeDoog said:Rex Tillerson
CEO, ExxonMobil
Under Tillerson, oil behemoth ExxonMobil posted the biggest corporate profits in history in 2008. At this year's annual meeting, Tillerson reassured shareholders that the oil economy will never disappear. And that's fine, said Tillerson, because "what good is it to save the planet if humanity suffers?" Aside from the direct impacts the company's fossil fuels have on intensifying climate change, under Tillerson the company has contributed millions to distorting public knowledge and understanding of climate science.
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/global-warmings-denier-elite-20130912 -
Rolling Stone is your political source?CollegeDoog said:Rex Tillerson
CEO, ExxonMobil
Under Tillerson, oil behemoth ExxonMobil posted the biggest corporate profits in history in 2008. At this year's annual meeting, Tillerson reassured shareholders that the oil economy will never disappear. And that's fine, said Tillerson, because "what good is it to save the planet if humanity suffers?" Aside from the direct impacts the company's fossil fuels have on intensifying climate change, under Tillerson the company has contributed millions to distorting public knowledge and understanding of climate science.
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/global-warmings-denier-elite-20130912
CollegeDoog has reached death2ducks territory in this thread.
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http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2012/jun/28/exxonmobil-climate-change-rex-tillersondnc said:
Rolling Stone is your political source?CollegeDoog said:Rex Tillerson
CEO, ExxonMobil
Under Tillerson, oil behemoth ExxonMobil posted the biggest corporate profits in history in 2008. At this year's annual meeting, Tillerson reassured shareholders that the oil economy will never disappear. And that's fine, said Tillerson, because "what good is it to save the planet if humanity suffers?" Aside from the direct impacts the company's fossil fuels have on intensifying climate change, under Tillerson the company has contributed millions to distorting public knowledge and understanding of climate science.
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/global-warmings-denier-elite-20130912
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"The Kochs have contributed $5 million to Americans for Prosperity, the driving force behind the Tea Party. They also gave nearly $25 million to conservative think tanks like the Heritage Foundation and the Cato Institute, two of the leading players in the climate-denial racket. And to help kill climate legislation in Congress, Koch spent $38 million on lobbying — more than any energy company except ExxonMobil and Chevron. Last year, besides underwriting a host of conservative candidates in the midterm elections, the Koch brothers backed Proposition 23, the unsuccessful effort to end California's crackdown on climate pollution, and funded attacks against the EPA's right to regulate carbon emissions. In David Koch's twisted view, global warming is actually good for us. "The Earth will be able to support enormously more people," he says, "because a far greater land area will be available to produce food."
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America is so awful...
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Good. I trust the guys that have skin in the game and have succeeded in life over some moron screaming Koch brothers. CollegeDoog is d2d all the way
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Nice standards as always guys.
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Let's trust big oil execs?RaceBannon said:Good. I trust the guys that have skin in the game and have succeeded in life over some moron screaming Koch brothers. CollegeDoog is d2d all the way
Still no plan either
Did you really just say that?
Your take on climate change is laughable.
First you say that the science is dishonest because the earth is billions of years old.
Wouldn't the scientists have thought of that and accounted for it? But someone in real estate surely knows better about what is scientifically honest.
My plan (the plan of the educated masses that embrace the science) has always been to invest in clean/renewable solutions while easing off fossil fuels like coal and crude oil. Natural gas, which burns much cleaner than other fossil fuels, should be what we rely on in the intermittent process, as the US has a domestic abundance.
For every Solyndra there's a Tesla. You have to buy a ticket to win the raffle.
The tropical regions of the oceans swallow the equivalent of 170 billion barrels of oil in solar megajoules daily, more than enough to power the United States for years. Solar is by far the biggest potential resource we could tap into, and it is imperative that we find ways to make the sun > energy process more efficient.
There are tidal, hydrogen, nuclear, hydroelectric, geothermal, biomass, and biofuel options that are still being researched.
Middlebury College gets nearly all of its power from our Biomass plant, which heats woodchips to create energy. As a result we are on pace to become carbon neutral in 2016.
The options are out there and desperately need funding in order to advance.
The big oil companies are fixed on continuing their massively profitable oil production and ignore these alternatives.
That's why they spend millions on lobbying annually.
But by all means let's trust Koch Industries to lead us into the world of alternative energies.
"lol"
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DisagreeCollegeDoog said:
Let's trust big oil execs?RaceBannon said:Good. I trust the guys that have skin in the game and have succeeded in life over some moron screaming Koch brothers. CollegeDoog is d2d all the way
Still no plan either
Did you really just say that?
Your take on climate change is laughable.
First you say that the science is dishonest because the earth is billions of years old.
Wouldn't the scientists have thought of that and accounted for it? But someone in real estate surely knows better about what is scientifically honest.
My plan (the plan of the educated masses that embrace the science) has always been to invest in clean/renewable solutions while easing off fossil fuels like coal and crude oil. Natural gas, which burns much cleaner than other fossil fuels, should be what we rely on in the intermittent process, as the US has a domestic abundance.
For every Solyndra there's a Tesla. You have to buy a ticket to win the raffle.
The tropical regions of the oceans swallow 170 billion barrels of oil in solar megajoules daily, more than enough to power the United States for years. That looks to be the best sustainable energy resource out there, and it is imperative that we find ways to make the sun > energy process more efficient.
There are tidal, hydrogen, nuclear, hydroelectric, geothermal, biomass, and biofuel options that are still being researched.
Middlebury College gets nearly all of its power from our Biomass plant, which heats woodchips to create energy. As a result we are on pace to become carbon neutral in 2016.
The options are out there and desperately need funding in order to advance.
The big oil companies are fixed on continuing their oil production and ignore these alternatives.
That's why they spend millions on lobbying annually.
But by all means let's trust Koch Industries to lead us into the world of alternative energies.
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Also, the only reason we know how old the earth is science.CollegeDoog said:
First you say that the science is dishonest because the earth is billions of years old.RaceBannon said:Good. I trust the guys that have skin in the game and have succeeded in life over some moron screaming Koch brothers. CollegeDoog is d2d all the way
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A lot of lack of real world experience in this fucking thread.
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I never said that
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^CheersWestDawg said:A lot of lack of real world experience in this fucking thread.
Cop-out response
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Wake me up when doog boy has something real to talk about
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Middlebury College gets nearly all of its power from our Biomass plant, which heats woodchips to create energy. As a result we are on pace to become carbon neutral in 2016.
Sounds like the destruction of the forest. -
"Stats are great if you realize that looking at 30 years in comparison to a planet that is billions of years old is what we call a small sample size"
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"Since 2009, the biomass system has reduced the College’s carbon emissions by nearly 40 percent and the use of #6 fuel oil by one-half, or about a million gallons per year. On average, over the past four years, this has saved the College well over $1 million in fuel costs. Some 20,000 tons of woodchips, harvested within 75 miles of campus, are used annually in lieu of that oil. According to the latest Forest Inventory Analysis by the U.S. Forest Service, that amount represents less than 1 percent of the area’s net forest growth (growth minus removals/harvest).RaceBannon said:Middlebury College gets nearly all of its power from our Biomass plant, which heats woodchips to create energy. As a result we are on pace to become carbon neutral in 2016.
Sounds like the destruction of the forest.
http://www.middlebury.edu/sustainability/news-events/news/2013/summernews13/node/454116
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If only everybody used wood chips for fuel. The world would be a much better place.
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Where did I say anything about science? Looks like you liedCollegeDoog said:"Stats are great if you realize that looking at 30 years in comparison to a planet that is billions of years old is what we call a small sample size"
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I like to say that burning wood on a global scale will reduce carbon.
Why do I need to try. CollegeDoogFS -
It's an example of an ambitious attempt at sustainable energy working.RaceBannon said:I like to say that burning wood on a global scale will reduce carbon.
Why do I need to try. CollegeDoogFS
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The stats ARE the science.RaceBannon said:
Where did I say anything about science? Looks like you liedCollegeDoog said:"Stats are great if you realize that looking at 30 years in comparison to a planet that is billions of years old is what we call a small sample size"
-Race Bannon
It's fucking data.
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Sample size is data too you fucking moron
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I hear they're burning your parents money too. Global scale moron, no one cares that your college burns wood for powerCollegeDoog said:
It's an example of an ambitious attempt at sustainable energy working.RaceBannon said:I like to say that burning wood on a global scale will reduce carbon.
Why do I need to try. CollegeDoogFS
You might want to stop before you embarrass yourself further.
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