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• HuskyJW Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 14,419

  January 2019

  #mytigers

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• HillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186

  January 2019

  Baseman said:

  Bill will tell us how overrated the SEC is...

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• sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208

  January 2019

  Had a freak snowstorm not hit a small town in late November, this game would be so much different.

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• RaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,458

  January 2019

  Clemson is leveled up
  
  2-2 the last 4 years. Two titles each. 55 wins each
  
  Everyone is playing for third place

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• Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,849

  January 2019

  RaceBannon said:

  Clemson is leveled up
  
  2-2 the last 4 years. Two titles each. 55 wins each
  
  Everyone is playing for third place

  Clemson more than leveled up tonight.
  
  
  The Revolution was televised.

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• Fire_Marshall_Bill Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,774

  January 2019

  HillsboroDuck said:

  Baseman said:

  Bill will tell us how overrated the SEC is...

  why not both gif

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• Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,421

  January 2019 edited January 2019

  RaceBannon said:

  Clemson is leveled up
  
  2-2 the last 4 years. Two titles each. 55 wins each
  
  Everyone is playing for third place

  I hate being a defeatist loser but I am watching that game and thinking there is no realistic way to consistently beat teams like that. Not a knock on Washington there either. It's everyone. Ohio State would have been blown off the field by 40 at half, against either of them. I mean someone will come along and crack the code on them, but they are on a whole different level right now. FML

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• DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 63,197

  January 2019

  Swaye said:

  RaceBannon said:

  Clemson is leveled up
  
  2-2 the last 4 years. Two titles each. 55 wins each
  
  Everyone is playing for third place

  I hate being a defeatist loser but I am watching that game and thinking there is no realistic way to consistently beat teams like that. Not a knock on Washington there either. It's everyone. Ohio State would have been blown off the field by 40 at half, against either of them. I mean someone will come along and crack the code on them, but they are on a whole different level right now. FML

  It's hard

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• Domicillo Member Posts: 3,025

  January 2019

  Swaye said:

  RaceBannon said:

  Clemson is leveled up
  
  2-2 the last 4 years. Two titles each. 55 wins each
  
  Everyone is playing for third place

  I hate being a defeatist loser but I am watching that game and thinking there is no realistic way to consistently beat teams like that. Not a knock on Washington there either. It's everyone. Ohio State would have been blown off the field by 40 at half, against either of them. I mean someone will come along and crack the code on them, but they are on a whole different level right now. FML

  We don’t need to beat them next year nor should we expect to be close. But we should expect to keep leveling up the program in all aspects and maintaining the trajectory so that in 2-3 years we’re right about where Clemson was at 4 years ago when they made their first CFP.
  For perspective:
  

  https://twitter.com/domicillo11/status/1082499477875769344?s=21

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• Southerndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,295

  January 2019

  Domicillo said:

  Swaye said:

  RaceBannon said:

  Clemson is leveled up
  
  2-2 the last 4 years. Two titles each. 55 wins each
  
  Everyone is playing for third place

  I hate being a defeatist loser but I am watching that game and thinking there is no realistic way to consistently beat teams like that. Not a knock on Washington there either. It's everyone. Ohio State would have been blown off the field by 40 at half, against either of them. I mean someone will come along and crack the code on them, but they are on a whole different level right now. FML

  We don’t need to beat them next year nor should we expect to be close. But we should expect to keep leveling up the program in all aspects and maintaining the trajectory so that in 2-3 years we’re right about where Clemson was at 4 years ago when they made their first CFP.
  For perspective:
  

  https://twitter.com/domicillo11/status/1082499477875769344?s=21

  
  
  
  "1. In 2008, Clemson finished the season tied for last in the ACC Atlantic Division. They hired their WR coach as their new head coach. He prioritized building his program around high character guys who he wanted to be prepared for success both in football and in life."
  
  

  
  Swinney is recruiting at a much higher level than Petersen, or anyone else in the PAC for that matter. If the Huskies are to compete with programs like Clemson, they're going to have to take it up a notch and ditch some of the built for life BS.

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• Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,421

  January 2019

  Domicillo said:

  Swaye said:

  RaceBannon said:

  Clemson is leveled up
  
  2-2 the last 4 years. Two titles each. 55 wins each
  
  Everyone is playing for third place

  I hate being a defeatist loser but I am watching that game and thinking there is no realistic way to consistently beat teams like that. Not a knock on Washington there either. It's everyone. Ohio State would have been blown off the field by 40 at half, against either of them. I mean someone will come along and crack the code on them, but they are on a whole different level right now. FML

  We don’t need to beat them next year nor should we expect to be close. But we should expect to keep leveling up the program in all aspects and maintaining the trajectory so that in 2-3 years we’re right about where Clemson was at 4 years ago when they made their first CFP.
  For perspective:
  

  https://twitter.com/domicillo11/status/1082499477875769344?s=21

  Agreed. But, it's a few years away if we make all the right moves. I'm fine with that. We just need to keep making the right moves. No more huge position group recruiting misses, shitcan a couple of the dead wood coaches, etc. Level up, as they say.

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• sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208

  January 2019

  In 2008 we were last. Are we next?

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• RaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,458

  January 2019

  salemcoog said:

  RaceBannon said:

  Clemson is leveled up
  
  2-2 the last 4 years. Two titles each. 55 wins each
  
  Everyone is playing for third place

  Clemson more than leveled up tonight.
  
  
  The Revolution was televised.

  What about when they lost 24-6 last year?
  
  These teams are dead even in every number
  
  Overall Bama still has 5 of 10 titles
  
  
  Recency bias is as stupid as celebrating a tenth place finish
  
  Wait

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• DoogCourics Member Posts: 5,739

  January 2019

  Southerndawg said:

  Domicillo said:

  Swaye said:

  RaceBannon said:

  Clemson is leveled up
  
  2-2 the last 4 years. Two titles each. 55 wins each
  
  Everyone is playing for third place

  I hate being a defeatist loser but I am watching that game and thinking there is no realistic way to consistently beat teams like that. Not a knock on Washington there either. It's everyone. Ohio State would have been blown off the field by 40 at half, against either of them. I mean someone will come along and crack the code on them, but they are on a whole different level right now. FML

  We don’t need to beat them next year nor should we expect to be close. But we should expect to keep leveling up the program in all aspects and maintaining the trajectory so that in 2-3 years we’re right about where Clemson was at 4 years ago when they made their first CFP.
  For perspective:
  

  https://twitter.com/domicillo11/status/1082499477875769344?s=21

  
  
  
  "1. In 2008, Clemson finished the season tied for last in the ACC Atlantic Division. They hired their WR coach as their new head coach. He prioritized building his program around high character guys who he wanted to be prepared for success both in football and in life."
  
  

  
  Swinney is recruiting at a much higher level than Petersen, or anyone else in the PAC for that matter. If the Huskies are to compete with programs like Clemson, they're going to have to take it up a notch and ditch some of the built for life BS.

  You’re correct in the fact that Clemson is recruiting at a higher level than UW right now, but Clemson is also further along in the process so that’s an unfair statement at the moment. In regards to trajectory, UW is actually recruiting at the same pace as Clemson in regards to Pete through 5 years and Dabo through 5 years.
  
  So Dom is correct in regards to his timeframe for UW to be where Clemson was when they started their run.
  
  I covered it all here:
  
  https://hardcorehusky.com/discussion/comment/980182#Comment_980182
  
  But I’m sure like Jake Browning, you don’t reall read my stuff.
  
  
  
  
  

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• creepycoug Member Posts: 23,116

  January 2019

  Swaye said:

  RaceBannon said:

  Clemson is leveled up
  
  2-2 the last 4 years. Two titles each. 55 wins each
  
  Everyone is playing for third place

  I hate being a defeatist loser but I am watching that game and thinking there is no realistic way to consistently beat teams like that. Not a knock on Washington there either. It's everyone. Ohio State would have been blown off the field by 40 at half, against either of them. I mean someone will come along and crack the code on them, but they are on a whole different level right now. FML

  2014 Ohio State, with their D line and running game, could have played with either team last night. This year's gets eaten alive.

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• creepycoug Member Posts: 23,116

  January 2019

  DoogCourics said:

  Southerndawg said:

  Domicillo said:

  Swaye said:

  RaceBannon said:

  Clemson is leveled up
  
  2-2 the last 4 years. Two titles each. 55 wins each
  
  Everyone is playing for third place

  I hate being a defeatist loser but I am watching that game and thinking there is no realistic way to consistently beat teams like that. Not a knock on Washington there either. It's everyone. Ohio State would have been blown off the field by 40 at half, against either of them. I mean someone will come along and crack the code on them, but they are on a whole different level right now. FML

  We don’t need to beat them next year nor should we expect to be close. But we should expect to keep leveling up the program in all aspects and maintaining the trajectory so that in 2-3 years we’re right about where Clemson was at 4 years ago when they made their first CFP.
  For perspective:
  

  https://twitter.com/domicillo11/status/1082499477875769344?s=21

  
  
  
  "1. In 2008, Clemson finished the season tied for last in the ACC Atlantic Division. They hired their WR coach as their new head coach. He prioritized building his program around high character guys who he wanted to be prepared for success both in football and in life."
  
  

  
  Swinney is recruiting at a much higher level than Petersen, or anyone else in the PAC for that matter. If the Huskies are to compete with programs like Clemson, they're going to have to take it up a notch and ditch some of the built for life BS.

  You’re correct in the fact that Clemson is recruiting at a higher level than UW right now, but Clemson is also further along in the process so that’s an unfair statement at the moment. In regards to trajectory, UW is actually recruiting at the same pace as Clemson in regards to Pete through 5 years and Dabo through 5 years.
  
  So Dom is correct in regards to his timeframe for UW to be where Clemson was when they started their run.
  
  I covered it all here:
  
  https://hardcorehusky.com/discussion/comment/980182#Comment_980182
  
  But I’m sure like Jake Browning, you don’t reall read my stuff.
  
  
  
  
  

  Washington is not getting the D line recruits that Clemson has been pulling in for years now. Don't kid yourself. That's a big, big, big piece of the puzzle. Clemson is getting first round D linemen in quantities now. You can be DBU of the west if you want, but that won't get it done against Bama or Clemson. To play with those guys, you need to be arguing about who the real D line U is, and not "of the west", which is stupid. And they are producing elite players at other positions, too, namely QB and WR.

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• creepycoug Member Posts: 23,116

  January 2019

  RaceBannon said:

  salemcoog said:

  RaceBannon said:

  Clemson is leveled up
  
  2-2 the last 4 years. Two titles each. 55 wins each
  
  Everyone is playing for third place

  Clemson more than leveled up tonight.
  
  
  The Revolution was televised.

  What about when they lost 24-6 last year?
  
  These teams are dead even in every number
  
  Overall Bama still has 5 of 10 titles
  
  
  Recency bias is as stupid as celebrating a tenth place finish
  
  Wait

  Yeah, I'm not quite ready to write off Saban.
  
  I think they come roaring back next year with a vengeance. Come to think of that, maybe 2019 would be another good year to skip the CFP and just go to another Rose Bowl and get a win. It will feel better than being the raw meat for Bama in the first round of the CFP.

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• creepycoug Member Posts: 23,116

  January 2019

  Swaye said:

  Domicillo said:

  Swaye said:

  RaceBannon said:

  Clemson is leveled up
  
  2-2 the last 4 years. Two titles each. 55 wins each
  
  Everyone is playing for third place

  I hate being a defeatist loser but I am watching that game and thinking there is no realistic way to consistently beat teams like that. Not a knock on Washington there either. It's everyone. Ohio State would have been blown off the field by 40 at half, against either of them. I mean someone will come along and crack the code on them, but they are on a whole different level right now. FML

  We don’t need to beat them next year nor should we expect to be close. But we should expect to keep leveling up the program in all aspects and maintaining the trajectory so that in 2-3 years we’re right about where Clemson was at 4 years ago when they made their first CFP.
  For perspective:
  

  https://twitter.com/domicillo11/status/1082499477875769344?s=21

  Agreed. But, it's a few years away if we make all the right moves. I'm fine with that. We just need to keep making the right moves. No more huge position group recruiting misses, shitcan a couple of the dead wood coaches, etc. Level up, as they say.

  You? need more than the occasional Vita Vea to level up. You need to be in stock of several of them all the time to play with the best of the best now.

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• RaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,458

  January 2019

  Clemson pressure broke Tua
  
  Often with just 4
  
  UW can do that in the pac against bad teams so there's that

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• HillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186

  January 2019

  creepycoug said:

  Swaye said:

  Domicillo said:

  Swaye said:

  RaceBannon said:

  Clemson is leveled up
  
  2-2 the last 4 years. Two titles each. 55 wins each
  
  Everyone is playing for third place

  I hate being a defeatist loser but I am watching that game and thinking there is no realistic way to consistently beat teams like that. Not a knock on Washington there either. It's everyone. Ohio State would have been blown off the field by 40 at half, against either of them. I mean someone will come along and crack the code on them, but they are on a whole different level right now. FML

  We don’t need to beat them next year nor should we expect to be close. But we should expect to keep leveling up the program in all aspects and maintaining the trajectory so that in 2-3 years we’re right about where Clemson was at 4 years ago when they made their first CFP.
  For perspective:
  

  https://twitter.com/domicillo11/status/1082499477875769344?s=21

  Agreed. But, it's a few years away if we make all the right moves. I'm fine with that. We just need to keep making the right moves. No more huge position group recruiting misses, shitcan a couple of the dead wood coaches, etc. Level up, as they say.

  You? need more than the occasional Vita Vea to level up. You need to be in stock of several of them all the time to play with the best of the best now.

  UW has brought in at least 3 first round DL in the last two classes. This year's class is right there with a Clemson DL class.
  
  Now we just have to start stacking them, while also getting Clemson caliber talent at other places, most notably WR and QB. QB futures look good. WR has a long long way to go.

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