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BasemanBaseman Member Posts: 12,365
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Pumpeii will tell us how overrated the SEC is...
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    HuskyJWHuskyJW Guest, Member Posts: 14,182
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    HillsboroDuckHillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186
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    Baseman said:

    Bill will tell us how overrated the SEC is...

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    KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,750
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    Clemson is leveled up

    2-2 the last 4 years. Two titles each. 55 wins each

    Everyone is playing for third place

    Clemson more than leveled up tonight.


    The Revolution was televised.
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    Fire_Marshall_BillFire_Marshall_Bill Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,825
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    Baseman said:

    Bill will tell us how overrated the SEC is...

    why not both gif
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    DerekJohnsonDerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 59,964
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    Swaye said:

    Clemson is leveled up

    2-2 the last 4 years. Two titles each. 55 wins each

    Everyone is playing for third place

    I hate being a defeatist loser but I am watching that game and thinking there is no realistic way to consistently beat teams like that. Not a knock on Washington there either. It's everyone. Ohio State would have been blown off the field by 40 at half, against either of them. I mean someone will come along and crack the code on them, but they are on a whole different level right now. FML
    It's hard
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    DomicilloDomicillo Member Posts: 3,025
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    Swaye said:

    Clemson is leveled up

    2-2 the last 4 years. Two titles each. 55 wins each

    Everyone is playing for third place

    I hate being a defeatist loser but I am watching that game and thinking there is no realistic way to consistently beat teams like that. Not a knock on Washington there either. It's everyone. Ohio State would have been blown off the field by 40 at half, against either of them. I mean someone will come along and crack the code on them, but they are on a whole different level right now. FML
    We don’t need to beat them next year nor should we expect to be close. But we should expect to keep leveling up the program in all aspects and maintaining the trajectory so that in 2-3 years we’re right about where Clemson was at 4 years ago when they made their first CFP.
    For perspective:
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    SoutherndawgSoutherndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,234
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    Domicillo said:

    Swaye said:

    Clemson is leveled up

    2-2 the last 4 years. Two titles each. 55 wins each

    Everyone is playing for third place

    I hate being a defeatist loser but I am watching that game and thinking there is no realistic way to consistently beat teams like that. Not a knock on Washington there either. It's everyone. Ohio State would have been blown off the field by 40 at half, against either of them. I mean someone will come along and crack the code on them, but they are on a whole different level right now. FML
    We don’t need to beat them next year nor should we expect to be close. But we should expect to keep leveling up the program in all aspects and maintaining the trajectory so that in 2-3 years we’re right about where Clemson was at 4 years ago when they made their first CFP.
    For perspective:



    "1. In 2008, Clemson finished the season tied for last in the ACC Atlantic Division. They hired their WR coach as their new head coach. He prioritized building his program around high character guys who he wanted to be prepared for success both in football and in life."


    Swinney is recruiting at a much higher level than Petersen, or anyone else in the PAC for that matter. If the Huskies are to compete with programs like Clemson, they're going to have to take it up a notch and ditch some of the built for life BS.
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    SwayeSwaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,062
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    Domicillo said:

    Swaye said:

    Clemson is leveled up

    2-2 the last 4 years. Two titles each. 55 wins each

    Everyone is playing for third place

    I hate being a defeatist loser but I am watching that game and thinking there is no realistic way to consistently beat teams like that. Not a knock on Washington there either. It's everyone. Ohio State would have been blown off the field by 40 at half, against either of them. I mean someone will come along and crack the code on them, but they are on a whole different level right now. FML
    We don’t need to beat them next year nor should we expect to be close. But we should expect to keep leveling up the program in all aspects and maintaining the trajectory so that in 2-3 years we’re right about where Clemson was at 4 years ago when they made their first CFP.
    For perspective:
    Agreed. But, it's a few years away if we make all the right moves. I'm fine with that. We just need to keep making the right moves. No more huge position group recruiting misses, shitcan a couple of the dead wood coaches, etc. Level up, as they say.
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    In 2008 we were last. Are we next?
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,258
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    salemcoog said:

    Clemson is leveled up

    2-2 the last 4 years. Two titles each. 55 wins each

    Everyone is playing for third place

    Clemson more than leveled up tonight.


    The Revolution was televised.
    What about when they lost 24-6 last year?

    These teams are dead even in every number

    Overall Bama still has 5 of 10 titles


    Recency bias is as stupid as celebrating a tenth place finish

    Wait
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    DoogCouricsDoogCourics Member Posts: 5,739
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    Domicillo said:

    Swaye said:

    Clemson is leveled up

    2-2 the last 4 years. Two titles each. 55 wins each

    Everyone is playing for third place

    I hate being a defeatist loser but I am watching that game and thinking there is no realistic way to consistently beat teams like that. Not a knock on Washington there either. It's everyone. Ohio State would have been blown off the field by 40 at half, against either of them. I mean someone will come along and crack the code on them, but they are on a whole different level right now. FML
    We don’t need to beat them next year nor should we expect to be close. But we should expect to keep leveling up the program in all aspects and maintaining the trajectory so that in 2-3 years we’re right about where Clemson was at 4 years ago when they made their first CFP.
    For perspective:



    "1. In 2008, Clemson finished the season tied for last in the ACC Atlantic Division. They hired their WR coach as their new head coach. He prioritized building his program around high character guys who he wanted to be prepared for success both in football and in life."


    Swinney is recruiting at a much higher level than Petersen, or anyone else in the PAC for that matter. If the Huskies are to compete with programs like Clemson, they're going to have to take it up a notch and ditch some of the built for life BS.
    You’re correct in the fact that Clemson is recruiting at a higher level than UW right now, but Clemson is also further along in the process so that’s an unfair statement at the moment. In regards to trajectory, UW is actually recruiting at the same pace as Clemson in regards to Pete through 5 years and Dabo through 5 years.

    So Dom is correct in regards to his timeframe for UW to be where Clemson was when they started their run.

    I covered it all here:

    https://hardcorehusky.com/discussion/comment/980182#Comment_980182

    But I’m sure like Jake Browning, you don’t reall read my stuff.




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    creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 22,741
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    Swaye said:

    Clemson is leveled up

    2-2 the last 4 years. Two titles each. 55 wins each

    Everyone is playing for third place

    I hate being a defeatist loser but I am watching that game and thinking there is no realistic way to consistently beat teams like that. Not a knock on Washington there either. It's everyone. Ohio State would have been blown off the field by 40 at half, against either of them. I mean someone will come along and crack the code on them, but they are on a whole different level right now. FML
    2014 Ohio State, with their D line and running game, could have played with either team last night. This year's gets eaten alive.
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    Domicillo said:

    Swaye said:

    Clemson is leveled up

    2-2 the last 4 years. Two titles each. 55 wins each

    Everyone is playing for third place

    I hate being a defeatist loser but I am watching that game and thinking there is no realistic way to consistently beat teams like that. Not a knock on Washington there either. It's everyone. Ohio State would have been blown off the field by 40 at half, against either of them. I mean someone will come along and crack the code on them, but they are on a whole different level right now. FML
    We don’t need to beat them next year nor should we expect to be close. But we should expect to keep leveling up the program in all aspects and maintaining the trajectory so that in 2-3 years we’re right about where Clemson was at 4 years ago when they made their first CFP.
    For perspective:



    "1. In 2008, Clemson finished the season tied for last in the ACC Atlantic Division. They hired their WR coach as their new head coach. He prioritized building his program around high character guys who he wanted to be prepared for success both in football and in life."


    Swinney is recruiting at a much higher level than Petersen, or anyone else in the PAC for that matter. If the Huskies are to compete with programs like Clemson, they're going to have to take it up a notch and ditch some of the built for life BS.
    You’re correct in the fact that Clemson is recruiting at a higher level than UW right now, but Clemson is also further along in the process so that’s an unfair statement at the moment. In regards to trajectory, UW is actually recruiting at the same pace as Clemson in regards to Pete through 5 years and Dabo through 5 years.

    So Dom is correct in regards to his timeframe for UW to be where Clemson was when they started their run.

    I covered it all here:

    https://hardcorehusky.com/discussion/comment/980182#Comment_980182

    But I’m sure like Jake Browning, you don’t reall read my stuff.




    Washington is not getting the D line recruits that Clemson has been pulling in for years now. Don't kid yourself. That's a big, big, big piece of the puzzle. Clemson is getting first round D linemen in quantities now. You can be DBU of the west if you want, but that won't get it done against Bama or Clemson. To play with those guys, you need to be arguing about who the real D line U is, and not "of the west", which is stupid. And they are producing elite players at other positions, too, namely QB and WR.
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    salemcoog said:

    Clemson is leveled up

    2-2 the last 4 years. Two titles each. 55 wins each

    Everyone is playing for third place

    Clemson more than leveled up tonight.


    The Revolution was televised.
    What about when they lost 24-6 last year?

    These teams are dead even in every number

    Overall Bama still has 5 of 10 titles


    Recency bias is as stupid as celebrating a tenth place finish

    Wait
    Yeah, I'm not quite ready to write off Saban.

    I think they come roaring back next year with a vengeance. Come to think of that, maybe 2019 would be another good year to skip the CFP and just go to another Rose Bowl and get a win. It will feel better than being the raw meat for Bama in the first round of the CFP.
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    creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 22,741
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    Swaye said:

    Domicillo said:

    Swaye said:

    Clemson is leveled up

    2-2 the last 4 years. Two titles each. 55 wins each

    Everyone is playing for third place

    I hate being a defeatist loser but I am watching that game and thinking there is no realistic way to consistently beat teams like that. Not a knock on Washington there either. It's everyone. Ohio State would have been blown off the field by 40 at half, against either of them. I mean someone will come along and crack the code on them, but they are on a whole different level right now. FML
    We don’t need to beat them next year nor should we expect to be close. But we should expect to keep leveling up the program in all aspects and maintaining the trajectory so that in 2-3 years we’re right about where Clemson was at 4 years ago when they made their first CFP.
    For perspective:
    Agreed. But, it's a few years away if we make all the right moves. I'm fine with that. We just need to keep making the right moves. No more huge position group recruiting misses, shitcan a couple of the dead wood coaches, etc. Level up, as they say.
    You? need more than the occasional Vita Vea to level up. You need to be in stock of several of them all the time to play with the best of the best now.
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,258
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    Clemson pressure broke Tua

    Often with just 4

    UW can do that in the pac against bad teams so there's that
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