Kyle Patterson, 3* 2019 TE, Gilbert (Perry), AZ (OFFERED - 12/2/18)
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we are down to option #6 at TE... Kyle Patterson. I assume when Martinez and Archer officially tell us to fuck off we will offer this kid. Who is fine.
He's 6-6, 230 and looks like he is, in fact, able to run. Although it doesn't look like he can do it very fast and it take him a long time to get going. But I mean, what - do you think it's realistic to think can beat 5-7 teams for the top 2 players at an important position in our offense?!?!?! How could we ever do that???
https://www.hudl.com/video/3/9651257/5b8d90005797c00cbcab2ac4
Jordan Paopao...
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I'm torn on Paopao ...
He's never gotten anybody that didn't basically just land in his lap ...
The TE performance is generally good but how much of that is tied to his coaching vs the players he gets is debatable ...
There's zero evidence to suggest that he's a strong recruiter ...
That being said he is Poly and having 2 Poly guys on staff may have some tangible messages to what Malloe is selling ...
I don't think on the surface it's an easy decision to upgrade given the last point, but the overall recruiting doesn't seem up to par for how we use and the importance of the TE in this offense. -
gregory needs to go first, this bitch is fucking us in the ass with the special teams play. Forget the LB, play which has not been great outside of BBK
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Boner, Paop and Bobby Greggy should be toast.
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Groggy, Pow, Boner in that order for me.Dennis_DeYoung said:Boner, Paop and Bobby Greggy should be toast.
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I just see it happening with Gregory with the bandaid that Heimuli amd Calvert will provide
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Dennis_DeYoung said:
Boner, Paop and Bobby Greggy should be toast.
Have to be it’s fucking embarrassing and I don’t want to here “look at the LB’s this year” because have you watched our special teams.
USC got the top 2 TE’s on the West Coast with a 5-7 record but that’s not the best part. THEY DONT EVEN FUCKING USE A TIGHT END REALLY HOLY FUCKING SHIT. No offense to this new guy but he’s trash. Paopao didn’t even fucking recruit Devin Culp.
Imagine UDUB at 5-7 getting both Wolfe, Rae, and most likely McCoy and ford. We went to the college football playoff and in that same year lost Eason, AsiAsi, had to go down 25 spots before getting Aaron fuller and Jordan chin, and bob Gregory didn’t sign a single inside LB. if you can’t recruit for a team competing for a natty, then when the fuck are you going to be able to recruit. It’s fucking embarrassing.
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If we get rid of Boner, who will take over as our resident poon hound?Dennis_DeYoung said:Boner, Paop and Bobby Greggy should be toast.
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THIS ENTIRE BOARD WHO THE FUCK ELSE?!bananasnblondes said:
If we get rid of Boner, who will take over as our resident poon hound?Dennis_DeYoung said:Boner, Paop and Bobby Greggy should be toast.
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Paopao got married this summer. The way Petersen runs his program paopao wont be let go/given one more year.
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And Boner had a kidanimate said:Paopao got married this summer. The way Petersen runs his program paopao wont be let go/given one more year.
Edit: also, earlier I meant to say I don’t see Gregory being let go due to potentially stumbling into good recruiting class -
That and every single kid he signs turns into a monster.animate said:Paopao got married this summer. The way Petersen runs his program paopao wont be let go/given one more year.
Dude can't recruit for shit but he can develop like a motherfucker.
He's not getting fired. -
He’s not going to be but he should be.HillsboroDuck said:
That and every single kid he signs turns into a monster.animate said:Paopao got married this summer. The way Petersen runs his program paopao wont be let go/given one more year.
Dude can't recruit for shit but he can develop like a motherfucker.
He's not getting fired.
Strausser developed the shit out of Eldrenkamp & co. and where the fuck is he now? You have to do both when you’re already in a system as well put together as Pete’s. Tosh is the D coordinator at a school ran by Nick Fucking Saban for the past ten years? You think DL/LB’s won’t get developed under Saban without Tosh? Of course they fucking will just like TE’s in Pete’s system because of our usage rate with them compared to every other school in the country.
Our TE’s are great because they’re asked to do both, block and catch. Our coaches should be held to the same standard when it comes to being great at both, development and recruiting. -
bananasnblondes said:
If we get rid of Boner, who will take over as our resident poon hound?Dennis_DeYoung said:Boner, Paop and Bobby Greggy should be toast.
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So is it he gets good players and doesn't know how to coach or does he not know how to get good players but knows how to coach?Tequilla said:I'm torn on Paopao ...
He's never gotten anybody that didn't basically just land in his lap ...
The TE performance is generally good but how much of that is tied to his coaching vs the players he gets is debatable ...
There's zero evidence to suggest that he's a strong recruiter ...
That being said he is Poly and having 2 Poly guys on staff may have some tangible messages to what Malloe is selling ...
I don't think on the surface it's an easy decision to upgrade given the last point, but the overall recruiting doesn't seem up to par for how we use and the importance of the TE in this offense.
You TBSers sometimes need to read what you write. -
We are always getting Hunter Bryant if we don’t fuck it upDoogles said:
So is it he gets good players and doesn't know how to coach or does he not know how to get good players but knows how to coach?Tequilla said:I'm torn on Paopao ...
He's never gotten anybody that didn't basically just land in his lap ...
The TE performance is generally good but how much of that is tied to his coaching vs the players he gets is debatable ...
There's zero evidence to suggest that he's a strong recruiter ...
That being said he is Poly and having 2 Poly guys on staff may have some tangible messages to what Malloe is selling ...
I don't think on the surface it's an easy decision to upgrade given the last point, but the overall recruiting doesn't seem up to par for how we use and the importance of the TE in this offense.
You TBSers sometimes need to read what you write.
We are always getting the Cade Otton, Drew Sample, Jacob Kiser types
Devin Culp was as much Lubick as PowPow
It’s not easy to evaluate PowPow ... but I just feel like he does what he is supposed to and nothing more -
Respect. That’s how I approach my job too.Tequilla said:
We are always getting Hunter Bryant if we don’t fuck it upDoogles said:
So is it he gets good players and doesn't know how to coach or does he not know how to get good players but knows how to coach?Tequilla said:I'm torn on Paopao ...
He's never gotten anybody that didn't basically just land in his lap ...
The TE performance is generally good but how much of that is tied to his coaching vs the players he gets is debatable ...
There's zero evidence to suggest that he's a strong recruiter ...
That being said he is Poly and having 2 Poly guys on staff may have some tangible messages to what Malloe is selling ...
I don't think on the surface it's an easy decision to upgrade given the last point, but the overall recruiting doesn't seem up to par for how we use and the importance of the TE in this offense.
You TBSers sometimes need to read what you write.
We are always getting the Cade Otton, Drew Sample, Jacob Kiser types
Devin Culp was as much Lubick as PowPow
It’s not easy to evaluate PowPow ... but I just feel like he does what he is supposed to and nothing more -
This.LaMichael_Corleone said:Dennis_DeYoung said:Boner, Paop and Bobby Greggy should be toast.
Have to be it’s fucking embarrassing and I don’t want to here “look at the LB’s this year” because have you watched our special teams.
USC got the top 2 TE’s on the West Coast with a 5-7 record but that’s not the best part. THEY DONT EVEN FUCKING USE A TIGHT END REALLY HOLY FUCKING SHIT. No offense to this new guy but he’s trash. Paopao didn’t even fucking recruit Devin Culp.
Imagine UDUB at 5-7 getting both Wolfe, Rae, and most likely McCoy and ford. We went to the college football playoff and in that same year lost Eason, AsiAsi, had to go down 25 spots before getting Aaron fuller and Jordan chin, and bob Gregory didn’t sign a single inside LB. if you can’t recruit for a team competing for a natty, then when the fuck are you going to be able to recruit. It’s fucking embarrassing. -
Doogles said:
So is it he gets good players and doesn't know how to coach or does he not know how to get good players but knows how to coach?Tequilla said:I'm torn on Paopao ...
He's never gotten anybody that didn't basically just land in his lap ...
The TE performance is generally good but how much of that is tied to his coaching vs the players he gets is debatable ...
There's zero evidence to suggest that he's a strong recruiter ...
That being said he is Poly and having 2 Poly guys on staff may have some tangible messages to what Malloe is selling ...
I don't think on the surface it's an easy decision to upgrade given the last point, but the overall recruiting doesn't seem up to par for how we use and the importance of the TE in this offense.
You TBSers sometimes need to read what you write.
You can get good players and not be a good recruiter. Jonathan smith didn’t turn into some recruiting wizard by getting sirmon. Gregory isn’t a recruiting wizard if he gets Heimuli because USC didn’t recruit him because he didn’t go to flashy combines and seven on and Ikaika started the relationship by building up our poly culture and offering ngalu early who will probably come up on Heimulis visit.
Hunter committed almost the second we offered him as with Cade. Culp was a lubick Guy.
What Teq means when debating the on field performance is, is Paopao turning hunger Bryant into Travis kelce or is Pete’s offense in general, his high usage rate of TE’s in all different formations, & the lack of a true number 1 receiver especially a big bodied one make Paopao look like a better coach than he is. That has nothing to do with his ability to recruit.
The ability to recruit: signing the highest possible option on your board without having to go down the list even if another school seems to be the favorite it shouldn’t matter because we’re the U FUCKING DUB. -
We are god damn WORSHINGTONLaMichael_Corleone said:Doogles said:
So is it he gets good players and doesn't know how to coach or does he not know how to get good players but knows how to coach?Tequilla said:I'm torn on Paopao ...
He's never gotten anybody that didn't basically just land in his lap ...
The TE performance is generally good but how much of that is tied to his coaching vs the players he gets is debatable ...
There's zero evidence to suggest that he's a strong recruiter ...
That being said he is Poly and having 2 Poly guys on staff may have some tangible messages to what Malloe is selling ...
I don't think on the surface it's an easy decision to upgrade given the last point, but the overall recruiting doesn't seem up to par for how we use and the importance of the TE in this offense.
You TBSers sometimes need to read what you write.
You can get good players and not be a good recruiter. Jonathan smith didn’t turn into some recruiting wizard by getting sirmon. Gregory isn’t a recruiting wizard if he gets Heimuli because USC didn’t recruit him because he didn’t go to flashy combines and seven on and Ikaika started the relationship by building up our poly culture and offering ngalu early who will probably come up on Heimulis visit.
Hunter committed almost the second we offered him as with Cade. Culp was a lubick Guy.
What Teq means when debating the on field performance is, is Paopao turning hunger Bryant into Travis kelce or is Pete’s offense in general, his high usage rate of TE’s in all different formations, & the lack of a true number 1 receiver especially a big bodied one make Paopao look like a better coach than he is. That has nothing to do with his ability to recruit.
The ability to recruit: signing the highest possible option on your board without having to go down the list even if another school seems to be the favorite it shouldn’t matter because we’re the U FUCKING DUB.
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WGAF if he can recruit if all of his players continue to be chincredible.LaMichael_Corleone said:Doogles said:
So is it he gets good players and doesn't know how to coach or does he not know how to get good players but knows how to coach?Tequilla said:I'm torn on Paopao ...
He's never gotten anybody that didn't basically just land in his lap ...
The TE performance is generally good but how much of that is tied to his coaching vs the players he gets is debatable ...
There's zero evidence to suggest that he's a strong recruiter ...
That being said he is Poly and having 2 Poly guys on staff may have some tangible messages to what Malloe is selling ...
I don't think on the surface it's an easy decision to upgrade given the last point, but the overall recruiting doesn't seem up to par for how we use and the importance of the TE in this offense.
You TBSers sometimes need to read what you write.
You can get good players and not be a good recruiter. Jonathan smith didn’t turn into some recruiting wizard by getting sirmon. Gregory isn’t a recruiting wizard if he gets Heimuli because USC didn’t recruit him because he didn’t go to flashy combines and seven on and Ikaika started the relationship by building up our poly culture and offering ngalu early who will probably come up on Heimulis visit.
Hunter committed almost the second we offered him as with Cade. Culp was a lubick Guy.
What Teq means when debating the on field performance is, is Paopao turning hunger Bryant into Travis kelce or is Pete’s offense in general, his high usage rate of TE’s in all different formations, & the lack of a true number 1 receiver especially a big bodied one make Paopao look like a better coach than he is. That has nothing to do with his ability to recruit.
The ability to recruit: signing the highest possible option on your board without having to go down the list even if another school seems to be the favorite it shouldn’t matter because we’re the U FUCKING DUB.
Recruiting is a means to an end, not an end of itself.
Paopao gets results. -
Because OUR PLAYERS COULD BE EVEN BETTER IF HE COULD ACTUALLY RECRUIT. Imagine him with more talented TEs!HillsboroDuck said:
WGAF if he can recruit if all of his players continue to be chincredible.LaMichael_Corleone said:Doogles said:
So is it he gets good players and doesn't know how to coach or does he not know how to get good players but knows how to coach?Tequilla said:I'm torn on Paopao ...
He's never gotten anybody that didn't basically just land in his lap ...
The TE performance is generally good but how much of that is tied to his coaching vs the players he gets is debatable ...
There's zero evidence to suggest that he's a strong recruiter ...
That being said he is Poly and having 2 Poly guys on staff may have some tangible messages to what Malloe is selling ...
I don't think on the surface it's an easy decision to upgrade given the last point, but the overall recruiting doesn't seem up to par for how we use and the importance of the TE in this offense.
You TBSers sometimes need to read what you write.
You can get good players and not be a good recruiter. Jonathan smith didn’t turn into some recruiting wizard by getting sirmon. Gregory isn’t a recruiting wizard if he gets Heimuli because USC didn’t recruit him because he didn’t go to flashy combines and seven on and Ikaika started the relationship by building up our poly culture and offering ngalu early who will probably come up on Heimulis visit.
Hunter committed almost the second we offered him as with Cade. Culp was a lubick Guy.
What Teq means when debating the on field performance is, is Paopao turning hunger Bryant into Travis kelce or is Pete’s offense in general, his high usage rate of TE’s in all different formations, & the lack of a true number 1 receiver especially a big bodied one make Paopao look like a better coach than he is. That has nothing to do with his ability to recruit.
The ability to recruit: signing the highest possible option on your board without having to go down the list even if another school seems to be the favorite it shouldn’t matter because we’re the U FUCKING DUB.
Recruiting is a means to an end, not an end of itself.
Paopao gets results.
DO BOTH! -
I was under the impression it's results based. I don't care how they get here as long as they get here and produce.
He developed Dissly Dawg, Sample will get drafted, got black beast, got Otton, Kizer, Culp.
What are we even talking about?! -
DO BOTH!!!! He’s done a great job with guys! I want to see him with guys that he misses every year, but sadly he can’t get them.Doogles said:I was under the impression it's results based. I don't care how they get here as long as they get here and produce.
He developed Dissly Dawg, Sample will get drafted, got black beast, got Otton, Kizer, Culp.
What are we even talking about?! -
2019 was actually a pretty decent TE year on the west,
Foskey(TE/DE whatever), Liebrock, Wolfe, Herbert, Martinez, Archer
The best team in the conference should never be settling for the 7th best TE, especially when 0 are going to Stanford! -
WRONG WRONG WRONGHillsboroDuck said:
WGAF if he can recruit if all of his players continue to be chincredible.LaMichael_Corleone said:Doogles said:
So is it he gets good players and doesn't know how to coach or does he not know how to get good players but knows how to coach?Tequilla said:I'm torn on Paopao ...
He's never gotten anybody that didn't basically just land in his lap ...
The TE performance is generally good but how much of that is tied to his coaching vs the players he gets is debatable ...
There's zero evidence to suggest that he's a strong recruiter ...
That being said he is Poly and having 2 Poly guys on staff may have some tangible messages to what Malloe is selling ...
I don't think on the surface it's an easy decision to upgrade given the last point, but the overall recruiting doesn't seem up to par for how we use and the importance of the TE in this offense.
You TBSers sometimes need to read what you write.
You can get good players and not be a good recruiter. Jonathan smith didn’t turn into some recruiting wizard by getting sirmon. Gregory isn’t a recruiting wizard if he gets Heimuli because USC didn’t recruit him because he didn’t go to flashy combines and seven on and Ikaika started the relationship by building up our poly culture and offering ngalu early who will probably come up on Heimulis visit.
Hunter committed almost the second we offered him as with Cade. Culp was a lubick Guy.
What Teq means when debating the on field performance is, is Paopao turning hunger Bryant into Travis kelce or is Pete’s offense in general, his high usage rate of TE’s in all different formations, & the lack of a true number 1 receiver especially a big bodied one make Paopao look like a better coach than he is. That has nothing to do with his ability to recruit.
The ability to recruit: signing the highest possible option on your board without having to go down the list even if another school seems to be the favorite it shouldn’t matter because we’re the U FUCKING DUB.
Recruiting is a means to an end, not an end of itself.
Paopao gets results.
You want the best players possible ... then you coach them to be even fucking better
It’s not fucking hard -
I don’t get the low standards.
Recruit or fuck off. You think at Ohio State they are like “well, we’ll just take the #2 TE in Oregon because this guy can teach TEs to push people around?”
FUCK NO.
Elite players every year at every position.
The same people slobbing Hunter’s knob also are over here saying it doesn’t matter who he gets because he develops people.
My fucking Christ.
Ready for Bama’s formula?
Step 1: get the best players in the country.
Step 2: get them to play to the best of their ability.
So you guys think that we should do step 2, but that Bama is overestimating step 1?
I thought people had standards around here. Fucking Hell. -
Should I be concerned that we can’t get a visit out of either TE committed to USC who doesn’t have a TE coach and is about to hire an OC who doesn’t use TEs?
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the mystique of USC is still appealing to most kids down there.Dennis_DeYoung said:Should I be concerned that we can’t get a visit out of either TE committed to USC who doesn’t have a TE coach and is about to hire an OC who doesn’t use TEs?
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Paopao is garbage.Meek said:
the mystique of USC is still appealing to most kids down there.Dennis_DeYoung said:Should I be concerned that we can’t get a visit out of either TE committed to USC who doesn’t have a TE coach and is about to hire an OC who doesn’t use TEs?
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and thatDennis_DeYoung said:
Paopao is garbage.Meek said:
the mystique of USC is still appealing to most kids down there.Dennis_DeYoung said:Should I be concerned that we can’t get a visit out of either TE committed to USC who doesn’t have a TE coach and is about to hire an OC who doesn’t use TEs?
