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Sledog said:
No you are a communist. HTH Fuck OffHardlyClothed said:
You’re defintely too dumb to understand the nuances in left ideology but for the record I’m a democratic socialist which is situated to the right of socialsm and left of social democracy. It’s where the democrats used to be from FDR to LBJ. Back when they gave a shit about organized labor, which was in turn sold out by the “new democrats” and neoliberalism.Sledog said:
Is that why you went commie?HardlyClothed said:
They could win poltical power for a variety of reasons (many external), but when it came to exerting political power for their constituency they were woeful.RaceBannon said:What has worked for the democrats is Bubba and Obama
16 years between them
It's not that hard
Obama got to run against the record of the muslim murder cowboy, McCain-Palin (good lord), and an avatar of corporate greed in Romney. Layups.
Then when in office both Clinton and Obama governed incredibly conservatively. And now we have a country with the highest level of inequality since the gilded age and a permanent war footing.
The new deal democrats were able to hold congress for 40+ years because they were accountable to their constituency: the working class. It really is no surprise that democrats have their weakest political power since the early 20th century given the betrayals since ‘92.
Let’s go home DebbieSledog said:
No you are a communist. HTH Fuck OffHardlyClothed said:
You’re defintely too dumb to understand the nuances in left ideology but for the record I’m a democratic socialist which is situated to the right of socialsm and left of social democracy. It’s where the democrats used to be from FDR to LBJ. Back when they gave a shit about organized labor, which was in turn sold out by the “new democrats” and neoliberalism.Sledog said:
Is that why you went commie?HardlyClothed said:
They could win poltical power for a variety of reasons (many external), but when it came to exerting political power for their constituency they were woeful.RaceBannon said:What has worked for the democrats is Bubba and Obama
16 years between them
It's not that hard
Obama got to run against the record of the muslim murder cowboy, McCain-Palin (good lord), and an avatar of corporate greed in Romney. Layups.
Then when in office both Clinton and Obama governed incredibly conservatively. And now we have a country with the highest level of inequality since the gilded age and a permanent war footing.
The new deal democrats were able to hold congress for 40+ years because they were accountable to their constituency: the working class. It really is no surprise that democrats have their weakest political power since the early 20th century given the betrayals since ‘92. -
The lefties would pick up a helluva lot more votes if they’d quit playing the ‘you’re too dumb to understand angle’.HardlyClothed said:
You’re defintely too dumb to understand the nuances in left ideology but for the record I’m a democratic socialist which is situated to the right of socialsm and left of social democracy. It’s where the democrats used to be from FDR to LBJ. Back when they gave a shit about organized labor, which was in turn sold out by the “new democrats” and neoliberalism.Sledog said:
Is that why you went commie?HardlyClothed said:
They could win poltical power for a variety of reasons (many external), but when it came to exerting political power for their constituency they were woeful.RaceBannon said:What has worked for the democrats is Bubba and Obama
16 years between them
It's not that hard
Obama got to run against the record of the muslim murder cowboy, McCain-Palin (good lord), and an avatar of corporate greed in Romney. Layups.
Then when in office both Clinton and Obama governed incredibly conservatively. And now we have a country with the highest level of inequality since the gilded age and a permanent war footing.
The new deal democrats were able to hold congress for 40+ years because they were accountable to their constituency: the working class. It really is no surprise that democrats have their weakest political power since the early 20th century given the betrayals since ‘92.
The tards on the right are smart enough to know that one dumb vote counts the same/cancels out one smart vote.
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Haha this guy is citing FDR and JFK but Clinton was a long time ago. OK!allpurpleallgold said:
Clinton was a long time ago and Obama had fuck all to do with any position or policy he ever had.RaceBannon said:What has worked for the democrats is Bubba and Obama
16 years between them
It's not that hard -
They won 4 elections which is the point. How they governed is another story. They didn't won going hard leftallpurpleallgold said:
Clinton was a long time ago and Obama had fuck all to do with any position or policy he ever had.RaceBannon said:What has worked for the democrats is Bubba and Obama
16 years between them
It's not that hard -
That was a great post. Some of it I don’t agree with but a very good description of the path we’ve traveled.Baseman said:
What does? Asking for my Dems.RaceBannon said:When Clinton, running as a centrist almost conservative democrat, beat Bush the GOP right said they needed to go further right even though Reagan was not as hard right as most people think. He was more like Trump, a former Hollywood democrat who felt the party moved too far left with Medicare.
Dole loses and it becomes lore that the GOP needed a right wing religious fundie to get the base out. W presented himself as that in the primaries but veered center to barely nip Gore at the wire. His religion almost cost the election because even religious folks tend to vote for civic issues not a theocracy. Always some bad apples in any fan base so don't twist.
Obama was another centrist campaign. Trump ran as an old school democrat. Hillary isn't a leftist but she never recovered from stealing the election from poor old Bernie.
Both sides want to veer hard to the left or right when they lose but history says it doesn't work.
Those of us who did feel the Bern moved on, figuring by the time 2020 rolls around, Bern won’t feel the Bern.
I was bullish on Biden. TUFF Talk and all. Word is he’s out. He’s certainty not getting any younger.
Hillary was our ABBT vote. Shit candidate. Untrustworthy. Probably grabbed lots of pussies too. Unlike Trump, she was smart enough not to get recorded. It pained me, checking her name. Fuck, Mike Dukakis ran thirty years to early. Paging Gary Hart!
In a perfect world, I’d blend Regan, Billy, and Obama. Solid values, populist programs with a determined swag.
We were heading for a race clash long before 2008. Rainbows. Millatos. Look whose coming to dinner, a runaway train heading south, right for the silent Wallace supporters in the south. Very fine people, I’m told. Mix in those Weaver/Koresch disciples, holding out in the wilds of Idaho and Oregon (trigger alert) seeking revenge for the plungerings inflicted by bored HOF, one Janet Wood (can’t make this up) Reno
Regan makde America great again. Sincere. Folksy. Fireside chats were cool again.
Middle America prospered under Regans tax cuts. Stock markets climbed. Prosperity followed. Clinton made Fleetwood Mac cool again. Yes he raised taxes. The middle class thrived. Dollars were spent. The rich got richer. Deficits were reduced. Debt as a % of GDP did too.
I liked George. Cracked a few cold ones (true and cool story) with him. Dick Cheney was worse than Babuschka could ever be. Me and my Dems backed George, confident and defiant, on top of the rubble at Ground Zero. We went in and fucked some shit up.
But Cheney wanted Sadam. WMD. El oh fucking El. Dictators going to dictate. Taliban going to Taliban. The Middle East is a sticker with an air bubble. Move it around, it never leaves. Insiders shorted, markets fell. Somebody has to pay Roger Stone’s legal fees.
We ain’t race baiters. Ignore the outlier Alts trying to make us look bad.
We ain’t Commies, but yeah got a wee bit of Socialism in me like my boys Bezos, Billy G., Warren, and Jeffery Z.
Lez be honest, no one likes paying taxes but if you can’t buy our products we can’t be rich. (Disclosure. I am walk on, not preferred, in this league) welfare and unemployment might get you a cell phone but it don’t pay for prime memberships, office subscriptions, or interest payments to Bank of America. (Hi Hondo!)
I abhor debt. Bring back them Clinton rates.
A few less bucks in my pocket now is cool by me. I plan on hanging around. Dial it back a notch now. The train has left the station. The Silver Streak is shaking. Richard Pryor and Gene Wilder, dead.
To early for the A word?
Austerity. I like my Greeks when hedging my options over the The Greeks starting fires and rioting in streets.
Sources suggesting 60 might soon be the new 35.
Spare a dime for me brother? -
You're a socialist/communist/fascist/racist hybrid who doesn't know shit about socialist/communist history. You got slaughtered in another thread for it.HardlyClothed said:
You’re defintely too dumb to understand the nuances in left ideology but for the record I’m a democratic socialist which is situated to the right of socialsm and left of social democracy. It’s where the democrats used to be from FDR to LBJ. Back when they gave a shit about organized labor, which was in turn sold out by the “new democrats” and neoliberalism.Sledog said:
Is that why you went commie?HardlyClothed said:
They could win poltical power for a variety of reasons (many external), but when it came to exerting political power for their constituency they were woeful.RaceBannon said:What has worked for the democrats is Bubba and Obama
16 years between them
It's not that hard
Obama got to run against the record of the muslim murder cowboy, McCain-Palin (good lord), and an avatar of corporate greed in Romney. Layups.
Then when in office both Clinton and Obama governed incredibly conservatively. And now we have a country with the highest level of inequality since the gilded age and a permanent war footing.
The new deal democrats were able to hold congress for 40+ years because they were accountable to their constituency: the working class. It really is no surprise that democrats have their weakest political power since the early 20th century given the betrayals since ‘92. -
Obama went out of his way to appeal to the hard left.RaceBannon said:
They won 4 elections which is the point. How they governed is another story. They didn't won going hard leftallpurpleallgold said:
Clinton was a long time ago and Obama had fuck all to do with any position or policy he ever had.RaceBannon said:What has worked for the democrats is Bubba and Obama
16 years between them
It's not that hard
Nobody wins without their base. So advising democrats to chase unicorn independent voters and steer away from their base is great advice if you want democrats to lose. -
Disagree. He ran to the middle, because that’s all He had to do to beat McCain after the economy crashed. And THEN, he Governed to the far left. And then the 2010 midterms let him know that shit wasn’t gonna work. And once it was campaign time again, he ran back to the middle for 2012. And THEN!!, was a lame duck for the next 4 years.allpurpleallgold said:
Obama went out of his way to appeal to the hard left.RaceBannon said:
They won 4 elections which is the point. How they governed is another story. They didn't won going hard leftallpurpleallgold said:
Clinton was a long time ago and Obama had fuck all to do with any position or policy he ever had.RaceBannon said:What has worked for the democrats is Bubba and Obama
16 years between them
It's not that hard
Nobody wins without their base. So advising democrats to chase unicorn independent voters and steer away from their base is great advice if you want democrats to lose. -
Just keep angrily mashing that into your keyboard, pal.oregonblitzkrieg said:
You're a socialist/communist/fascist/racist hybrid who doesn't know shit about socialist/communist history. You got slaughtered in another thread for it.HardlyClothed said:
You’re defintely too dumb to understand the nuances in left ideology but for the record I’m a democratic socialist which is situated to the right of socialsm and left of social democracy. It’s where the democrats used to be from FDR to LBJ. Back when they gave a shit about organized labor, which was in turn sold out by the “new democrats” and neoliberalism.Sledog said:
Is that why you went commie?HardlyClothed said:
They could win poltical power for a variety of reasons (many external), but when it came to exerting political power for their constituency they were woeful.RaceBannon said:What has worked for the democrats is Bubba and Obama
16 years between them
It's not that hard
Obama got to run against the record of the muslim murder cowboy, McCain-Palin (good lord), and an avatar of corporate greed in Romney. Layups.
Then when in office both Clinton and Obama governed incredibly conservatively. And now we have a country with the highest level of inequality since the gilded age and a permanent war footing.
The new deal democrats were able to hold congress for 40+ years because they were accountable to their constituency: the working class. It really is no surprise that democrats have their weakest political power since the early 20th century given the betrayals since ‘92. -
“Governed to the far left”salemcoog said:
Disagree. He ran to the middle, because that’s all He had to do to beat McCain after the economy crashed. And THEN, he Governed to the far left. And then the 2010 midterms let him know that shit wasn’t gonna work. And once it was campaign time again, he ran back to the middle for 2012. And THEN!!, was a lame duck for the next 4 years.allpurpleallgold said:
Obama went out of his way to appeal to the hard left.RaceBannon said:
They won 4 elections which is the point. How they governed is another story. They didn't won going hard leftallpurpleallgold said:
Clinton was a long time ago and Obama had fuck all to do with any position or policy he ever had.RaceBannon said:What has worked for the democrats is Bubba and Obama
16 years between them
It's not that hard
Nobody wins without their base. So advising democrats to chase unicorn independent voters and steer away from their base is great advice if you want democrats to lose.
He passed heritage foundation market based health care reform you dolt. -
I’m not surprised a racist pos like you has no idea what’s actually happening.salemcoog said:
Disagree. He ran to the middle, because that’s all He had to do to beat McCain after the economy crashed. And THEN, he Governed to the far left. And then the 2010 midterms let him know that shit wasn’t gonna work. And once it was campaign time again, he ran back to the middle for 2012. And THEN!!, was a lame duck for the next 4 years.allpurpleallgold said:
Obama went out of his way to appeal to the hard left.RaceBannon said:
They won 4 elections which is the point. How they governed is another story. They didn't won going hard leftallpurpleallgold said:
Clinton was a long time ago and Obama had fuck all to do with any position or policy he ever had.RaceBannon said:What has worked for the democrats is Bubba and Obama
16 years between them
It's not that hard
Nobody wins without their base. So advising democrats to chase unicorn independent voters and steer away from their base is great advice if you want democrats to lose.
Nothing says far left like his crowning achievement being a republican healthcare plan from the 90s. -
The “nappy haired” comment on the other thread was a nice little Don Imus tribute to pair with “minorities get and want free shit” from a few days before. He’s been on quite the racist run recently.allpurpleallgold said:
I’m not surprised a racist pos like you has no idea what’s actually happening.salemcoog said:
Disagree. He ran to the middle, because that’s all He had to do to beat McCain after the economy crashed. And THEN, he Governed to the far left. And then the 2010 midterms let him know that shit wasn’t gonna work. And once it was campaign time again, he ran back to the middle for 2012. And THEN!!, was a lame duck for the next 4 years.allpurpleallgold said:
Obama went out of his way to appeal to the hard left.RaceBannon said:
They won 4 elections which is the point. How they governed is another story. They didn't won going hard leftallpurpleallgold said:
Clinton was a long time ago and Obama had fuck all to do with any position or policy he ever had.RaceBannon said:What has worked for the democrats is Bubba and Obama
16 years between them
It's not that hard
Nobody wins without their base. So advising democrats to chase unicorn independent voters and steer away from their base is great advice if you want democrats to lose.
Nothing says far left like his crowning achievement being a republican healthcare plan from the 90s. -
For any of my Dems wondering how Trump took the White House.HardlyClothed said:
You’re defintely too dumb to understand the nuances in left ideology but for the record I’m a democratic socialist which is situated to the right of socialsm and left of social democracy. It’s where the democrats used to be from FDR to LBJ. Back when they gave a shit about organized labor, which was in turn sold out by the “new democrats” and neoliberalism.Sledog said:
Is that why you went commie?HardlyClothed said:
They could win poltical power for a variety of reasons (many external), but when it came to exerting political power for their constituency they were woeful.RaceBannon said:What has worked for the democrats is Bubba and Obama
16 years between them
It's not that hard
Obama got to run against the record of the muslim murder cowboy, McCain-Palin (good lord), and an avatar of corporate greed in Romney. Layups.
Then when in office both Clinton and Obama governed incredibly conservatively. And now we have a country with the highest level of inequality since the gilded age and a permanent war footing.
The new deal democrats were able to hold congress for 40+ years because they were accountable to their constituency: the working class. It really is no surprise that democrats have their weakest political power since the early 20th century given the betrayals since ‘92. -
And a good one at that.RaceBannon said:
They won 4 elections which is the point. How they governed is another story. They didn't won going hard leftallpurpleallgold said:
Clinton was a long time ago and Obama had fuck all to do with any position or policy he ever had.RaceBannon said:What has worked for the democrats is Bubba and Obama
16 years between them
It's not that hard
Answer me this: Who is our? (My Dems) next rainmaker? Asking for several hundred million of us (Voters: legal, alive, or not) -
Ah Yes. The Socialists now call it Romneycare instead of Obamacare and call it a policy of the right. L O L!!!allpurpleallgold said:
I’m not surprised a racist pos like you has no idea what’s actually happening.salemcoog said:
Disagree. He ran to the middle, because that’s all He had to do to beat McCain after the economy crashed. And THEN, he Governed to the far left. And then the 2010 midterms let him know that shit wasn’t gonna work. And once it was campaign time again, he ran back to the middle for 2012. And THEN!!, was a lame duck for the next 4 years.allpurpleallgold said:
Obama went out of his way to appeal to the hard left.RaceBannon said:
They won 4 elections which is the point. How they governed is another story. They didn't won going hard leftallpurpleallgold said:
Clinton was a long time ago and Obama had fuck all to do with any position or policy he ever had.RaceBannon said:What has worked for the democrats is Bubba and Obama
16 years between them
It's not that hard
Nobody wins without their base. So advising democrats to chase unicorn independent voters and steer away from their base is great advice if you want democrats to lose.
Nothing says far left like his crowning achievement being a republican healthcare plan from the 90s.
I’m guessing it’s due to it being his only significant accomplishment in his 8 years. But now they run away from it.
However our resident Socialists aren’t running away from their number one go to, the race card. As always, good luck the rest of the way. -
My gawd you are a pretentious cuck.HardlyClothed said:
Interesting assertion. Though I detest the Clintons and what they’ve done to the democratic party over my lifetime I held my nose and voted for her because even neoliberalism is preferable to the current Republican party.GrundleStiltzkin said:
You’d never vote for JKF todayHardlyClothed said:
You’re defintely too dumb to understand the nuances in left ideology but for the record I’m a democratic socialist which is situated to the right of socialsm and left of social democracy. It’s where the democrats used to be from FDR to LBJ. Back when they gave a shit about organized labor, which was in turn sold out by the “new democrats” and neoliberalism.Sledog said:
Is that why you went commie?HardlyClothed said:
They could win poltical power for a variety of reasons (many external), but when it came to exerting political power for their constituency they were woeful.RaceBannon said:What has worked for the democrats is Bubba and Obama
16 years between them
It's not that hard
Obama got to run against the record of the muslim murder cowboy, McCain-Palin (good lord), and an avatar of corporate greed in Romney. Layups.
Then when in office both Clinton and Obama governed incredibly conservatively. And now we have a country with the highest level of inequality since the gilded age and a permanent war footing.
The new deal democrats were able to hold congress for 40+ years because they were accountable to their constituency: the working class. It really is no surprise that democrats have their weakest political power since the early 20th century given the betrayals since ‘92.
JFK was Northeast old money like FDR but they both knew what their voters wanted and delivered for them. -
The centrist/compromise candidate lost to TrumpBaseman said:
And a good one at that.RaceBannon said:
They won 4 elections which is the point. How they governed is another story. They didn't won going hard leftallpurpleallgold said:
Clinton was a long time ago and Obama had fuck all to do with any position or policy he ever had.RaceBannon said:What has worked for the democrats is Bubba and Obama
16 years between them
It's not that hard
Answer me this: Who is our? (My Dems) next rainmaker? Asking for several hundred million of us (Voters: legal, alive, or not) -
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HardlyClothed said:
The centrist/compromise candidate lost to TrumpBaseman said:
And a good one at that.RaceBannon said:
They won 4 elections which is the point. How they governed is another story. They didn't won going hard leftallpurpleallgold said:
Clinton was a long time ago and Obama had fuck all to do with any position or policy he ever had.RaceBannon said:What has worked for the democrats is Bubba and Obama
16 years between them
It's not that hard
Answer me this: Who is our? (My Dems) next rainmaker? Asking for several hundred million of us (Voters: legal, alive, or not)
Hillary Clinton lost to Trump. I have no clue what her policies were and dont care
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Clinton’s first year of campaigning attempted to break free of Obama and run a centrist campaign. But once things got tight, she simply parroted Obama the last 2 months of the campaign as she circled down the drain.Pitchfork51 said:HardlyClothed said:
The centrist/compromise candidate lost to TrumpBaseman said:
And a good one at that.RaceBannon said:
They won 4 elections which is the point. How they governed is another story. They didn't won going hard leftallpurpleallgold said:
Clinton was a long time ago and Obama had fuck all to do with any position or policy he ever had.RaceBannon said:What has worked for the democrats is Bubba and Obama
16 years between them
It's not that hard
Answer me this: Who is our? (My Dems) next rainmaker? Asking for several hundred million of us (Voters: legal, alive, or not)
Hillary Clinton lost to Trump. I have no clue what her policies were and dont care -
The hail mary race card has been busted out
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May as well not even hold the election
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they doPitchfork51 said:God damn I hope they do
I swear to God people legitimately think the Dems going further left will help.
I would like a split in the Dems and maybe one comes out normal.
they view hillary clinton as a failure of centrism and not a failure of unfathomably corrupt impossibly unlikable politician
i listen to some gay commie podcast called chapo trap house that makes a mil a year from people i cant comprehend and they repeat this belief constantly -
biden would have shat on trump in 2016 and any reasonable charming person would dominate in 2020 but they are going to run some obnoxious unqualified mixed race empowered womyn instead because they are now dominated by dogmatic marxist lunatics
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Talk about stupid shit! Cuomo sets the bar pretty high!
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/08/15/andrew-cuomo-shocks-crowd-says-america-was-never-that-great.html -
^^^This.SarkFanSixtyNine said:biden would have shat on trump in 2016 and any reasonable charming person would dominate in 2020 but they are going to run some obnoxious unqualified mixed race empowered womyn instead because they are now dominated by dogmatic marxist lunatics
Politics is still the 8th grade class president election. Most popular kid wins.
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Centrism has given rise to the “unfathomably corrupt” DC creature like Hillary. The Clintons are a product of that political culture, similar to Blair in the UK. Labour got it right by purging most of the Blairites and electing Corbyn to lead the party, and they made massive gains in the 2017 general and are favorites to win the next. The same is happening here, more gradually, in the democratic party and their adoption of Sanders wing policies.SarkFanSixtyNine said:
they doPitchfork51 said:God damn I hope they do
I swear to God people legitimately think the Dems going further left will help.
I would like a split in the Dems and maybe one comes out normal.
they view hillary clinton as a failure of centrism and not a failure of unfathomably corrupt impossibly unlikable politician
i listen to some gay commie podcast called chapo trap house that makes a mil a year from people i cant comprehend and they repeat this belief constantly
But sure, the democratic party should heed the advice by someone who describes things as “gay commies” -
yea because there are no uncorrupt centristsHardlyClothed said:
Centrism has given rise to the “unfathomably corrupt” DC creature like Hillary. The Clintons are a product of that political culture, similar to Blair in the UK. Labour got it right by purging most of the Blairites and electing Corbyn to lead the party, and they made massive gains in the 2017 general and are favorites to win the next. The same is happening here, more gradually, in the democratic party and their adoption of Sanders wing policies.SarkFanSixtyNine said:
they doPitchfork51 said:God damn I hope they do
I swear to God people legitimately think the Dems going further left will help.
I would like a split in the Dems and maybe one comes out normal.
they view hillary clinton as a failure of centrism and not a failure of unfathomably corrupt impossibly unlikable politician
i listen to some gay commie podcast called chapo trap house that makes a mil a year from people i cant comprehend and they repeat this belief constantly
But sure, the democratic party should heed the advice by someone who describes things as “gay commies”
terrible logic
gay commie detected -
Your example of a centrist who could win was Joe Biden, who is hilariously compromised by the credit card companies and their relationship to Delaware, and who has flamed out each time he previously ran for president.SarkFanSixtyNine said:
yea because there are no uncorrupt centristsHardlyClothed said:
Centrism has given rise to the “unfathomably corrupt” DC creature like Hillary. The Clintons are a product of that political culture, similar to Blair in the UK. Labour got it right by purging most of the Blairites and electing Corbyn to lead the party, and they made massive gains in the 2017 general and are favorites to win the next. The same is happening here, more gradually, in the democratic party and their adoption of Sanders wing policies.SarkFanSixtyNine said:
they doPitchfork51 said:God damn I hope they do
I swear to God people legitimately think the Dems going further left will help.
I would like a split in the Dems and maybe one comes out normal.
they view hillary clinton as a failure of centrism and not a failure of unfathomably corrupt impossibly unlikable politician
i listen to some gay commie podcast called chapo trap house that makes a mil a year from people i cant comprehend and they repeat this belief constantly
But sure, the democratic party should heed the advice by someone who describes things as “gay commies”
terrible logic
gay commie detected -
ANY reasonable person with any charm at all would have won with ease. My biden example is irrelevant other than him being the first name from 2016 that I remembered.HardlyClothed said:
Your example of a centrist who could win was Joe Biden, who is hilariously compromised by the credit card companies and their relationship to Delaware, and who has flamed out each time he previously ran for president.SarkFanSixtyNine said:
yea because there are no uncorrupt centristsHardlyClothed said:
Centrism has given rise to the “unfathomably corrupt” DC creature like Hillary. The Clintons are a product of that political culture, similar to Blair in the UK. Labour got it right by purging most of the Blairites and electing Corbyn to lead the party, and they made massive gains in the 2017 general and are favorites to win the next. The same is happening here, more gradually, in the democratic party and their adoption of Sanders wing policies.SarkFanSixtyNine said:
they doPitchfork51 said:God damn I hope they do
I swear to God people legitimately think the Dems going further left will help.
I would like a split in the Dems and maybe one comes out normal.
they view hillary clinton as a failure of centrism and not a failure of unfathomably corrupt impossibly unlikable politician
i listen to some gay commie podcast called chapo trap house that makes a mil a year from people i cant comprehend and they repeat this belief constantly
But sure, the democratic party should heed the advice by someone who describes things as “gay commies”
terrible logic
gay commie detected
biden didn't go from broke to billions.
biden wouldn't have repulsed working class midwesterners.
He's one of thousands of people that would have won that presidential election easily.
"The most important states, though, were Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. Trump won those states by 0.2, 0.7 and 0.8 percentage points, respectively — and by 10,704, 46,765 and 22,177 votes"
