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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,762 Founders Club
    creepycoug said:

    YellowSnow said:

    I respected that Graham, at least, tried to maintain an a-political stance as opposed to being completely in the bag for the right- e.g., like Jerry Falwell.

    Oh come on. You're better than this.
    I try to show restraint Creep.
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  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,329
    BearsWiin said:

    creepycoug said:

    BearsWiin said:

    creepycoug said:

    BearsWiin said:

    salemcoog said:

    BearsWiin said:

    YellowSnow said:

    I respected that Graham, at least, tried to maintain an a-political stance as opposed to being completely in the bag for the right- e.g., like Jerry Falwell.

    It's cute that you think this.
    Why does someone who lived their life genuinely righteous 99% of the time shame you?
    We all do. It's what we do in that 1%, when the decisions are hard, when doing the right thing might not be the easy thing, that separate decent people from lousy assholes.

    The man amassed wealth and influence acting as a purveyor of spiritual snake oil, and he laid the groundwork for others, including his own spawn, to use the religious right as a political force for shitty policy over the last four decades.
    Was Billy a charlatan?

    I'm crushed.

    Btw, Salem isn't even close to 99%. Frankly, none of us are. I'll bet Billy wasn't either.
    We're evolved to be cooperative; it conveys a huge survival advantage, and we do it so much that we don't even think about it most of the time. We don't need Christ in our hearts to act nicely to each other.
    Agreed.

    Also agreed that, while Graham was a lot more tolerable in his M/O than the typical evangelical, he did commit the hubris of making snake oil salesmen acceptable to broad range of people.
    I don't let Plekhanov off the hook for what Lenin did
    Likewise, Lenin for Stalin and every other shit who's fucked the world in the name of redistribution and fundamental fairness.
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  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,570
    edited February 2018
    Billy Graham sells the couch pew

    Fixed
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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,762 Founders Club
    creepycoug said:

    BearsWiin said:

    creepycoug said:

    BearsWiin said:

    creepycoug said:

    BearsWiin said:

    salemcoog said:

    BearsWiin said:

    YellowSnow said:

    I respected that Graham, at least, tried to maintain an a-political stance as opposed to being completely in the bag for the right- e.g., like Jerry Falwell.

    It's cute that you think this.
    Why does someone who lived their life genuinely righteous 99% of the time shame you?
    We all do. It's what we do in that 1%, when the decisions are hard, when doing the right thing might not be the easy thing, that separate decent people from lousy assholes.

    The man amassed wealth and influence acting as a purveyor of spiritual snake oil, and he laid the groundwork for others, including his own spawn, to use the religious right as a political force for shitty policy over the last four decades.
    Was Billy a charlatan?

    I'm crushed.

    Btw, Salem isn't even close to 99%. Frankly, none of us are. I'll bet Billy wasn't either.
    We're evolved to be cooperative; it conveys a huge survival advantage, and we do it so much that we don't even think about it most of the time. We don't need Christ in our hearts to act nicely to each other.
    Agreed.

    Also agreed that, while Graham was a lot more tolerable in his M/O than the typical evangelical, he did commit the hubris of making snake oil salesmen acceptable to broad range of people.
    I don't let Plekhanov off the hook for what Lenin did
    Likewise, Lenin for Stalin and every other shit who's fucked the world in the name of redistribution and fundamental fairness.
    Come on now, everyone in St. Petersburg knew it was time for a change, and to kill the Czar and his minsters while Anastasia screamed in vain.
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  • BearsWiin
    BearsWiin Member Posts: 5,076
    YellowSnow said:

    creepycoug said:

    BearsWiin said:

    creepycoug said:

    BearsWiin said:

    creepycoug said:

    BearsWiin said:

    salemcoog said:

    BearsWiin said:

    YellowSnow said:

    I respected that Graham, at least, tried to maintain an a-political stance as opposed to being completely in the bag for the right- e.g., like Jerry Falwell.

    It's cute that you think this.
    Why does someone who lived their life genuinely righteous 99% of the time shame you?
    We all do. It's what we do in that 1%, when the decisions are hard, when doing the right thing might not be the easy thing, that separate decent people from lousy assholes.

    The man amassed wealth and influence acting as a purveyor of spiritual snake oil, and he laid the groundwork for others, including his own spawn, to use the religious right as a political force for shitty policy over the last four decades.
    Was Billy a charlatan?

    I'm crushed.

    Btw, Salem isn't even close to 99%. Frankly, none of us are. I'll bet Billy wasn't either.
    We're evolved to be cooperative; it conveys a huge survival advantage, and we do it so much that we don't even think about it most of the time. We don't need Christ in our hearts to act nicely to each other.
    Agreed.

    Also agreed that, while Graham was a lot more tolerable in his M/O than the typical evangelical, he did commit the hubris of making snake oil salesmen acceptable to broad range of people.
    I don't let Plekhanov off the hook for what Lenin did
    Likewise, Lenin for Stalin and every other shit who's fucked the world in the name of redistribution and fundamental fairness.
    Come on now, everyone in St. Petersburg knew it was time for a change, and to kill the Czar and his minsters while Anastasia screamed in vain.
    Errbody in the West slobbers over Pasternak's Dr. Zhivago, but the masterpiece of Soviet fiction was Bulgakov's Master and Margarita. Major props to Jagger and Co. for the literary reference.
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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,762 Founders Club
    BearsWiin said:

    YellowSnow said:

    creepycoug said:

    BearsWiin said:

    creepycoug said:

    BearsWiin said:

    creepycoug said:

    BearsWiin said:

    salemcoog said:

    BearsWiin said:

    YellowSnow said:

    I respected that Graham, at least, tried to maintain an a-political stance as opposed to being completely in the bag for the right- e.g., like Jerry Falwell.

    It's cute that you think this.
    Why does someone who lived their life genuinely righteous 99% of the time shame you?
    We all do. It's what we do in that 1%, when the decisions are hard, when doing the right thing might not be the easy thing, that separate decent people from lousy assholes.

    The man amassed wealth and influence acting as a purveyor of spiritual snake oil, and he laid the groundwork for others, including his own spawn, to use the religious right as a political force for shitty policy over the last four decades.
    Was Billy a charlatan?

    I'm crushed.

    Btw, Salem isn't even close to 99%. Frankly, none of us are. I'll bet Billy wasn't either.
    We're evolved to be cooperative; it conveys a huge survival advantage, and we do it so much that we don't even think about it most of the time. We don't need Christ in our hearts to act nicely to each other.
    Agreed.

    Also agreed that, while Graham was a lot more tolerable in his M/O than the typical evangelical, he did commit the hubris of making snake oil salesmen acceptable to broad range of people.
    I don't let Plekhanov off the hook for what Lenin did
    Likewise, Lenin for Stalin and every other shit who's fucked the world in the name of redistribution and fundamental fairness.
    Come on now, everyone in St. Petersburg knew it was time for a change, and to kill the Czar and his minsters while Anastasia screamed in vain.
    Errbody in the West slobbers over Pasternak's Dr. Zhivago, but the masterpiece of Soviet fiction was Bulgakov's Master and Margarita. Major props to Jagger and Co. for the literary reference.
    Julie Christie was so hot though!!


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  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,919
    BearsWiin said:

    creepycoug said:

    BearsWiin said:

    salemcoog said:

    BearsWiin said:

    YellowSnow said:

    I respected that Graham, at least, tried to maintain an a-political stance as opposed to being completely in the bag for the right- e.g., like Jerry Falwell.

    It's cute that you think this.
    Why does someone who lived their life genuinely righteous 99% of the time shame you?
    We all do. It's what we do in that 1%, when the decisions are hard, when doing the right thing might not be the easy thing, that separate decent people from lousy assholes.

    The man amassed wealth and influence acting as a purveyor of spiritual snake oil, and he laid the groundwork for others, including his own spawn, to use the religious right as a political force for shitty policy over the last four decades.
    Was Billy a charlatan?

    I'm crushed.

    Btw, Salem isn't even close to 99%. Frankly, none of us are. I'll bet Billy wasn't either.
    We're evolved to be cooperative; it conveys a huge survival advantage, and we do it so much that we don't even think about it most of the time. We don't need Christ in our hearts to act nicely to each other.
    But you need something bigger than yourself... No???
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  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    salemcoog said:

    BearsWiin said:

    creepycoug said:

    BearsWiin said:

    salemcoog said:

    BearsWiin said:

    YellowSnow said:

    I respected that Graham, at least, tried to maintain an a-political stance as opposed to being completely in the bag for the right- e.g., like Jerry Falwell.

    It's cute that you think this.
    Why does someone who lived their life genuinely righteous 99% of the time shame you?
    We all do. It's what we do in that 1%, when the decisions are hard, when doing the right thing might not be the easy thing, that separate decent people from lousy assholes.

    The man amassed wealth and influence acting as a purveyor of spiritual snake oil, and he laid the groundwork for others, including his own spawn, to use the religious right as a political force for shitty policy over the last four decades.
    Was Billy a charlatan?

    I'm crushed.

    Btw, Salem isn't even close to 99%. Frankly, none of us are. I'll bet Billy wasn't either.
    We're evolved to be cooperative; it conveys a huge survival advantage, and we do it so much that we don't even think about it most of the time. We don't need Christ in our hearts to act nicely to each other.
    But you need something bigger than yourself... No???
    No.

    Stop being a pussy.
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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,762 Founders Club
    BearsWiin said:

    YellowSnow said:

    BearsWiin said:

    YellowSnow said:

    creepycoug said:

    BearsWiin said:

    creepycoug said:

    BearsWiin said:

    creepycoug said:

    BearsWiin said:

    salemcoog said:

    BearsWiin said:

    YellowSnow said:

    I respected that Graham, at least, tried to maintain an a-political stance as opposed to being completely in the bag for the right- e.g., like Jerry Falwell.

    It's cute that you think this.
    Why does someone who lived their life genuinely righteous 99% of the time shame you?
    We all do. It's what we do in that 1%, when the decisions are hard, when doing the right thing might not be the easy thing, that separate decent people from lousy assholes.

    The man amassed wealth and influence acting as a purveyor of spiritual snake oil, and he laid the groundwork for others, including his own spawn, to use the religious right as a political force for shitty policy over the last four decades.
    Was Billy a charlatan?

    I'm crushed.

    Btw, Salem isn't even close to 99%. Frankly, none of us are. I'll bet Billy wasn't either.
    We're evolved to be cooperative; it conveys a huge survival advantage, and we do it so much that we don't even think about it most of the time. We don't need Christ in our hearts to act nicely to each other.
    Agreed.

    Also agreed that, while Graham was a lot more tolerable in his M/O than the typical evangelical, he did commit the hubris of making snake oil salesmen acceptable to broad range of people.
    I don't let Plekhanov off the hook for what Lenin did
    Likewise, Lenin for Stalin and every other shit who's fucked the world in the name of redistribution and fundamental fairness.
    Come on now, everyone in St. Petersburg knew it was time for a change, and to kill the Czar and his minsters while Anastasia screamed in vain.
    Errbody in the West slobbers over Pasternak's Dr. Zhivago, but the masterpiece of Soviet fiction was Bulgakov's Master and Margarita. Major props to Jagger and Co. for the literary reference.
    Julie Christie was so hot though!!






    gotta love HH; thread on the death of an iconic pastor becomes Julie Christie sideboob in fewer than two pages



    Christ, you could, at least, give me one fucking Chin, you bastard. But then if you did that I'd have to take it as a miracle and start believing in god.
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