Billy Graham sells the couch
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Oh come on. You're better than this.YellowSnow said:I respected that Graham, at least, tried to maintain an a-political stance as opposed to being completely in the bag for the right- e.g., like Jerry Falwell.
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Why does someone who lived their life genuinely righteous 99% of the time shame you?BearsWiin said:
It's cute that you think this.YellowSnow said:I respected that Graham, at least, tried to maintain an a-political stance as opposed to being completely in the bag for the right- e.g., like Jerry Falwell.
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Noted Godless Heathen heard from.creepycoug said:
Oh come on. You're better than this.YellowSnow said:I respected that Graham, at least, tried to maintain an a-political stance as opposed to being completely in the bag for the right- e.g., like Jerry Falwell.
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From the guy who sucked dick at WSU to "see what it was like." Jeebus. Relax Kewg.salemcoog said:
Noted Godless Heathen heard from.creepycoug said:
Oh come on. You're better than this.YellowSnow said:I respected that Graham, at least, tried to maintain an a-political stance as opposed to being completely in the bag for the right- e.g., like Jerry Falwell.
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We all do. It's what we do in that 1%, when the decisions are hard, when doing the right thing might not be the easy thing, that separate decent people from lousy assholes.salemcoog said:
Why does someone who lived their life genuinely righteous 99% of the time shame you?BearsWiin said:
It's cute that you think this.YellowSnow said:I respected that Graham, at least, tried to maintain an a-political stance as opposed to being completely in the bag for the right- e.g., like Jerry Falwell.
The man amassed wealth and influence acting as a purveyor of spiritual snake oil, and he laid the groundwork for others, including his own spawn, to use the religious right as a political force for shitty policy over the last four decades. -
Was Billy a charlatan?BearsWiin said:
We all do. It's what we do in that 1%, when the decisions are hard, when doing the right thing might not be the easy thing, that separate decent people from lousy assholes.salemcoog said:
Why does someone who lived their life genuinely righteous 99% of the time shame you?BearsWiin said:
It's cute that you think this.YellowSnow said:I respected that Graham, at least, tried to maintain an a-political stance as opposed to being completely in the bag for the right- e.g., like Jerry Falwell.
The man amassed wealth and influence acting as a purveyor of spiritual snake oil, and he laid the groundwork for others, including his own spawn, to use the religious right as a political force for shitty policy over the last four decades.
I'm crushed.
Btw, Salem isn't even close to 99%. Frankly, none of us are. I'll bet Billy wasn't either. -
We're evolved to be cooperative; it conveys a huge survival advantage, and we do it so much that we don't even think about it most of the time. We don't need Christ in our hearts to act nicely to each other.creepycoug said:
Was Billy a charlatan?BearsWiin said:
We all do. It's what we do in that 1%, when the decisions are hard, when doing the right thing might not be the easy thing, that separate decent people from lousy assholes.salemcoog said:
Why does someone who lived their life genuinely righteous 99% of the time shame you?BearsWiin said:
It's cute that you think this.YellowSnow said:I respected that Graham, at least, tried to maintain an a-political stance as opposed to being completely in the bag for the right- e.g., like Jerry Falwell.
The man amassed wealth and influence acting as a purveyor of spiritual snake oil, and he laid the groundwork for others, including his own spawn, to use the religious right as a political force for shitty policy over the last four decades.
I'm crushed.
Btw, Salem isn't even close to 99%. Frankly, none of us are. I'll bet Billy wasn't either. -
Agreed.BearsWiin said:
We're evolved to be cooperative; it conveys a huge survival advantage, and we do it so much that we don't even think about it most of the time. We don't need Christ in our hearts to act nicely to each other.creepycoug said:
Was Billy a charlatan?BearsWiin said:
We all do. It's what we do in that 1%, when the decisions are hard, when doing the right thing might not be the easy thing, that separate decent people from lousy assholes.salemcoog said:
Why does someone who lived their life genuinely righteous 99% of the time shame you?BearsWiin said:
It's cute that you think this.YellowSnow said:I respected that Graham, at least, tried to maintain an a-political stance as opposed to being completely in the bag for the right- e.g., like Jerry Falwell.
The man amassed wealth and influence acting as a purveyor of spiritual snake oil, and he laid the groundwork for others, including his own spawn, to use the religious right as a political force for shitty policy over the last four decades.
I'm crushed.
Btw, Salem isn't even close to 99%. Frankly, none of us are. I'll bet Billy wasn't either.
Also agreed that, while Graham was a lot more tolerable in his M/O than the typical evangelical, he did commit the hubris of making snake oil salesmen acceptable to broad range of people. -
I'm a cooperative mood today and not ripping Graham too hard is all.BearsWiin said:
We're evolved to be cooperative; it conveys a huge survival advantage, and we do it so much that we don't even think about it most of the time. We don't need Christ in our hearts to act nicely to each other.creepycoug said:
Was Billy a charlatan?BearsWiin said:
We all do. It's what we do in that 1%, when the decisions are hard, when doing the right thing might not be the easy thing, that separate decent people from lousy assholes.salemcoog said:
Why does someone who lived their life genuinely righteous 99% of the time shame you?BearsWiin said:
It's cute that you think this.YellowSnow said:I respected that Graham, at least, tried to maintain an a-political stance as opposed to being completely in the bag for the right- e.g., like Jerry Falwell.
The man amassed wealth and influence acting as a purveyor of spiritual snake oil, and he laid the groundwork for others, including his own spawn, to use the religious right as a political force for shitty policy over the last four decades.
I'm crushed.
Btw, Salem isn't even close to 99%. Frankly, none of us are. I'll bet Billy wasn't either.
I'd agree that he's culpable to some extent. Law of unintended consequences I suppose.BearsWiin said:
He just laid the groundwork for it.YellowSnow said:
Yes, I know it's cute. But he wasn't nearly as bad of some of the evangelical right. He never joined the Moral Majority for example.BearsWiin said:
It's cute that you think this.YellowSnow said:I respected that Graham, at least, tried to maintain an a-political stance as opposed to being completely in the bag for the right- e.g., like Jerry Falwell.
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I don't let Plekhanov off the hook for what Lenin didcreepycoug said:
Agreed.BearsWiin said:
We're evolved to be cooperative; it conveys a huge survival advantage, and we do it so much that we don't even think about it most of the time. We don't need Christ in our hearts to act nicely to each other.creepycoug said:
Was Billy a charlatan?BearsWiin said:
We all do. It's what we do in that 1%, when the decisions are hard, when doing the right thing might not be the easy thing, that separate decent people from lousy assholes.salemcoog said:
Why does someone who lived their life genuinely righteous 99% of the time shame you?BearsWiin said:
It's cute that you think this.YellowSnow said:I respected that Graham, at least, tried to maintain an a-political stance as opposed to being completely in the bag for the right- e.g., like Jerry Falwell.
The man amassed wealth and influence acting as a purveyor of spiritual snake oil, and he laid the groundwork for others, including his own spawn, to use the religious right as a political force for shitty policy over the last four decades.
I'm crushed.
Btw, Salem isn't even close to 99%. Frankly, none of us are. I'll bet Billy wasn't either.
Also agreed that, while Graham was a lot more tolerable in his M/O than the typical evangelical, he did commit the hubris of making snake oil salesmen acceptable to broad range of people.
