People need to pay their fair share of taxes


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Right. To help pay for large corporate tax cuts. They capped the state tax deduction at $10k. Meaning people who pay significantly more than that, will pay more in taxes on the plan. And most of those people are small business owners. Nice work!!
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Repeal Prop 13!! Now more than ever!!
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Greedy asshole leftists want more of the people money to pay for stupid shit like trains to nowhereville and illegal immigrants education, welfare, school and legal defense from deportation by the feds. That shit ain't American.
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The blue states could also help out its citizens by lowering their state taxes. Just a suggestion...2001400ex said:Right. To help pay for large corporate tax cuts. They capped the state tax deduction at $10k. Meaning people who pay significantly more than that, will pay more in taxes on the plan. And most of those people are small business owners. Nice work!!
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What your talking about? Road, bridges, dams, and trains to nowhere are as American as apple pie.Sledog said:Greedy asshole leftists want more of the people money to pay for stupid shit like trains to nowhereville and illegal immigrants education, welfare, school and legal defense from deportation by the feds. That shit ain't American.
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Why should someone who lives in the People's Republic of California have any greater ability to deduct state taxes than someone who lives in, like, Wyoming or Washington where there isn't any state income tax?2001400ex said:Right. To help pay for large corporate tax cuts. They capped the state tax deduction at $10k. Meaning people who pay significantly more than that, will pay more in taxes on the plan. And most of those people are small business owners. Nice work!!
The $10K cap is more than a fair compromise.
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To the uneducated. There was a standard amount based on your income to add if you lived in Washington to deduct for income tax. Plus they allowed you to deduct sales tax on large purchases. To "level the playing field" as you suggest.PurpleThrobber said:
Why should someone who lives in the People's Republic of California have any greater ability to deduct state taxes than someone who lives in, like, Wyoming or Washington where there isn't any state income tax?2001400ex said:Right. To help pay for large corporate tax cuts. They capped the state tax deduction at $10k. Meaning people who pay significantly more than that, will pay more in taxes on the plan. And most of those people are small business owners. Nice work!!
The $10K cap is more than a fair compromise. -
Now hondo is against taxes that he was in favor of before
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For Hondo, The struggle is always real.2001400ex said:
To the uneducated. There was a standard amount based on your income to add if you lived in Washington to deduct for income tax. Plus they allowed you to deduct sales tax on large purchases. To "level the playing field" as you suggest.PurpleThrobber said:
Why should someone who lives in the People's Republic of California have any greater ability to deduct state taxes than someone who lives in, like, Wyoming or Washington where there isn't any state income tax?2001400ex said:Right. To help pay for large corporate tax cuts. They capped the state tax deduction at $10k. Meaning people who pay significantly more than that, will pay more in taxes on the plan. And most of those people are small business owners. Nice work!!
The $10K cap is more than a fair compromise. -
I heard we had to pay for the tax cuts
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You won't because you'll be dead before anyone bothers to pay down the debt.RaceBannon said:I heard we had to pay for the tax cuts
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So, what you're saying is Washington residents were capped by whatever the standard deduct for their taxable income but Cali residents weren't.2001400ex said:
To the uneducated. There was a standard amount based on your income to add if you lived in Washington to deduct for income tax. Plus they allowed you to deduct sales tax on large purchases. To "level the playing field" as you suggest.PurpleThrobber said:
Why should someone who lives in the People's Republic of California have any greater ability to deduct state taxes than someone who lives in, like, Wyoming or Washington where there isn't any state income tax?2001400ex said:Right. To help pay for large corporate tax cuts. They capped the state tax deduction at $10k. Meaning people who pay significantly more than that, will pay more in taxes on the plan. And most of those people are small business owners. Nice work!!
The $10K cap is more than a fair compromise.
The sales tax deduction was a fraction of what state income tax payers were allowed to take as a deduction.
For someone at the $200K income range, 1 Exemption, the 'standard' sales tax deduction for 2017 was $1,886
And that's comparable to a Cali resident who could take the full boat deduction on their, let's say, 5% state income tax (actually way higher but we'll keep it simple) of around $10,000 plus?!?!
Maff sucks, I know. For the uneducated.
Nega, please.
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Plus sales tax on large purchases. I think your $1,886 is low because mine was higher than that in 16. But I don't give enough shits to look it up.PurpleThrobber said:
So, what you're saying is Washington residents were capped by whatever the standard deduct for their taxable income but Cali residents weren't.2001400ex said:
To the uneducated. There was a standard amount based on your income to add if you lived in Washington to deduct for income tax. Plus they allowed you to deduct sales tax on large purchases. To "level the playing field" as you suggest.PurpleThrobber said:
Why should someone who lives in the People's Republic of California have any greater ability to deduct state taxes than someone who lives in, like, Wyoming or Washington where there isn't any state income tax?2001400ex said:Right. To help pay for large corporate tax cuts. They capped the state tax deduction at $10k. Meaning people who pay significantly more than that, will pay more in taxes on the plan. And most of those people are small business owners. Nice work!!
The $10K cap is more than a fair compromise.
The sales tax deduction was a fraction of what state income tax payers were allowed to take as a deduction.
For someone at the $200K income range, 1 Exemption, the 'standard' sales tax deduction for 2017 was $1,886
And that's comparable to a Cali resident who could take the full boat deduction on their, let's say, 5% state income tax (actually way higher but we'll keep it simple) of around $10,000 plus?!?!
Maff sucks, I know. For the uneducated.
Nega, please. -
So you're in favor of regressive sales taxes that also encourage the poor to go into debt buying things they don't need.2001400ex said:
Plus sales tax on large purchases. I think your $1,886 is low because mine was higher than that in 16. But I don't give enough shits to look it up.PurpleThrobber said:
So, what you're saying is Washington residents were capped by whatever the standard deduct for their taxable income but Cali residents weren't.2001400ex said:
To the uneducated. There was a standard amount based on your income to add if you lived in Washington to deduct for income tax. Plus they allowed you to deduct sales tax on large purchases. To "level the playing field" as you suggest.PurpleThrobber said:
Why should someone who lives in the People's Republic of California have any greater ability to deduct state taxes than someone who lives in, like, Wyoming or Washington where there isn't any state income tax?2001400ex said:Right. To help pay for large corporate tax cuts. They capped the state tax deduction at $10k. Meaning people who pay significantly more than that, will pay more in taxes on the plan. And most of those people are small business owners. Nice work!!
The $10K cap is more than a fair compromise.
The sales tax deduction was a fraction of what state income tax payers were allowed to take as a deduction.
For someone at the $200K income range, 1 Exemption, the 'standard' sales tax deduction for 2017 was $1,886
And that's comparable to a Cali resident who could take the full boat deduction on their, let's say, 5% state income tax (actually way higher but we'll keep it simple) of around $10,000 plus?!?!
Maff sucks, I know. For the uneducated.
Nega, please.
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Or we could downsize the role of the federal government to common defense and currency management— essentially eliminating the entire wasteful federal edifice — and let States govern themselves how they want. Just a suggestion. You and California can finally be free of each other.greenblood said:
The blue states could also help out its citizens by lowering their state taxes. Just a suggestion...2001400ex said:Right. To help pay for large corporate tax cuts. They capped the state tax deduction at $10k. Meaning people who pay significantly more than that, will pay more in taxes on the plan. And most of those people are small business owners. Nice work!!
Btw, sen. Cornyn just said he anticipates at least two more FY2018 CRs on top of the four passed already. What’s the point? Just shut it all down once and for all in the name of common sense and efficiency. -
2001400ex said:
You won't because you'll be dead before anyone bothers to pay down the debt.RaceBannon said:I heard we had to pay for the tax cuts
History suggests race wont be dying any time soon
Hondo wrong again.
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I don't know any poor people that pay more than $10k a year in state income tax. But ok!!PurpleThrobber said:
So you're in favor of regressive sales taxes that also encourage the poor to go into debt buying things they don't need.2001400ex said:
Plus sales tax on large purchases. I think your $1,886 is low because mine was higher than that in 16. But I don't give enough shits to look it up.PurpleThrobber said:
So, what you're saying is Washington residents were capped by whatever the standard deduct for their taxable income but Cali residents weren't.2001400ex said:
To the uneducated. There was a standard amount based on your income to add if you lived in Washington to deduct for income tax. Plus they allowed you to deduct sales tax on large purchases. To "level the playing field" as you suggest.PurpleThrobber said:
Why should someone who lives in the People's Republic of California have any greater ability to deduct state taxes than someone who lives in, like, Wyoming or Washington where there isn't any state income tax?2001400ex said:Right. To help pay for large corporate tax cuts. They capped the state tax deduction at $10k. Meaning people who pay significantly more than that, will pay more in taxes on the plan. And most of those people are small business owners. Nice work!!
The $10K cap is more than a fair compromise.
The sales tax deduction was a fraction of what state income tax payers were allowed to take as a deduction.
For someone at the $200K income range, 1 Exemption, the 'standard' sales tax deduction for 2017 was $1,886
And that's comparable to a Cali resident who could take the full boat deduction on their, let's say, 5% state income tax (actually way higher but we'll keep it simple) of around $10,000 plus?!?!
Maff sucks, I know. For the uneducated.
Nega, please.
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Which was run up by your guy! But then it was OK.........2001400ex said:
You won't because you'll be dead before anyone bothers to pay down the debt.RaceBannon said:I heard we had to pay for the tax cuts
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This was pretty funny:RaceBannon said:
Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin is concerned about state efforts to get around the tax law.
That fucker just has that "cat that ate the bird" look on him that screams "i'm completely getting away with murder because I'm good at math." and his wife is hot too, despite the fact that he's got salemkewg-like looks.
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Agreed. They should have been investing in your education.Sledog said:Greedy asshole leftists want more of the people money to pay for stupid shit like trains to nowhereville and illegal immigrants education, welfare, school and legal defense from deportation by the feds. That shit ain't American.
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Fuck off. State's rights buddy boy. Just like Scalia argued for years in his abortion case dissents. He never said once that it should be federally banned. He always positioned his argument on state's rights. Whether he was being disingenuous or not, I'll leave to you.PurpleThrobber said:
Why should someone who lives in the People's Republic of California have any greater ability to deduct state taxes than someone who lives in, like, Wyoming or Washington where there isn't any state income tax?2001400ex said:Right. To help pay for large corporate tax cuts. They capped the state tax deduction at $10k. Meaning people who pay significantly more than that, will pay more in taxes on the plan. And most of those people are small business owners. Nice work!!
The $10K cap is more than a fair compromise.
If the ability to use a hoover and a spoon relative to "sanctity of life" matters is merely a function of hitting the right state line, then surely the far less aggressive extension of governmental in personam jurisdiction to tax must be left to the states.
Why do you hate the federal republic man? Why? Why?
Let us build our loop holes and mind your own business. Please. -
Yes. Someone's gotta buy the shit, and I pay enough in taxes. I don't need to help my brother kewg live out his golden years in comfort down in Salem any more than I already have.PurpleThrobber said:
So you're in favor of regressive sales taxes that also encourage the poor to go into debt buying things they don't need.2001400ex said:
Plus sales tax on large purchases. I think your $1,886 is low because mine was higher than that in 16. But I don't give enough shits to look it up.PurpleThrobber said:
So, what you're saying is Washington residents were capped by whatever the standard deduct for their taxable income but Cali residents weren't.2001400ex said:
To the uneducated. There was a standard amount based on your income to add if you lived in Washington to deduct for income tax. Plus they allowed you to deduct sales tax on large purchases. To "level the playing field" as you suggest.PurpleThrobber said:
Why should someone who lives in the People's Republic of California have any greater ability to deduct state taxes than someone who lives in, like, Wyoming or Washington where there isn't any state income tax?2001400ex said:Right. To help pay for large corporate tax cuts. They capped the state tax deduction at $10k. Meaning people who pay significantly more than that, will pay more in taxes on the plan. And most of those people are small business owners. Nice work!!
The $10K cap is more than a fair compromise.
The sales tax deduction was a fraction of what state income tax payers were allowed to take as a deduction.
For someone at the $200K income range, 1 Exemption, the 'standard' sales tax deduction for 2017 was $1,886
And that's comparable to a Cali resident who could take the full boat deduction on their, let's say, 5% state income tax (actually way higher but we'll keep it simple) of around $10,000 plus?!?!
Maff sucks, I know. For the uneducated.
Nega, please.
Let me be clear: I want to keep what I earn in the FREE market place (real or pretend), and I want to share it with NOBODY. I don't care about other people's problems.
I'm a REAL conservative. Most of these bananas are union-loving protectionist brown shirt commies who want my stuff w/o having to work for it. -
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!CirrhosisDawg said:
Or we could downsize the role of the federal government to common defense and currency management— essentially eliminating the entire wasteful federal edifice — and let States govern themselves how they want. Just a suggestion. You and California can finally be free of each other.greenblood said:
The blue states could also help out its citizens by lowering their state taxes. Just a suggestion...2001400ex said:Right. To help pay for large corporate tax cuts. They capped the state tax deduction at $10k. Meaning people who pay significantly more than that, will pay more in taxes on the plan. And most of those people are small business owners. Nice work!!
Btw, sen. Cornyn just said he anticipates at least two more FY2018 CRs on top of the four passed already. What’s the point? Just shut it all down once and for all in the name of common sense and efficiency. -
One good side effect of the tax plan is that it will put pressure on high tax state governments to lower their taxes, which leads to smaller government and further weakening of democrats.
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Worked well in Kansas.oregonblitzkrieg said:One good side effect of the tax plan is that it will put pressure on high tax state governments to lower their taxes, which leads to smaller government and further weakening of democrats.
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The time and true HondoFS response completely oblivious to reality, as if Kansas is in some kind of crisis compared states (in real trouble) like Illinois.2001400ex said:
Worked well in Kansas.oregonblitzkrieg said:One good side effect of the tax plan is that it will put pressure on high tax state governments to lower their taxes, which leads to smaller government and further weakening of democrats.
https://www.mercatus.org/statefiscalrankings
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I'm sorry you hate maff too.creepycoug said:
Fuck off. State's rights buddy boy. Just like Scalia argued for years in his abortion case dissents. He never said once that it should be federally banned. He always positioned his argument on state's rights. Whether he was being disingenuous or not, I'll leave to you.PurpleThrobber said:
Why should someone who lives in the People's Republic of California have any greater ability to deduct state taxes than someone who lives in, like, Wyoming or Washington where there isn't any state income tax?2001400ex said:Right. To help pay for large corporate tax cuts. They capped the state tax deduction at $10k. Meaning people who pay significantly more than that, will pay more in taxes on the plan. And most of those people are small business owners. Nice work!!
The $10K cap is more than a fair compromise.
If the ability to use a hoover and a spoon relative to "sanctity of life" matters is merely a function of hitting the right state line, then surely the far less aggressive extension of governmental in personam jurisdiction to tax must be left to the states.
Why do you hate the federal republic man? Why? Why?
Let us build our loop holes and mind your own business. Please.
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The discussion was not about the financial health of the state. Thanks for playing tho.HoustonHusky said:
The time and true HondoFS response completely oblivious to reality, as if Kansas is in some kind of crisis compared states (in real trouble) like Illinois.2001400ex said:
Worked well in Kansas.oregonblitzkrieg said:One good side effect of the tax plan is that it will put pressure on high tax state governments to lower their taxes, which leads to smaller government and further weakening of democrats.
https://www.mercatus.org/statefiscalrankings -
I'm in favor of retroactive abortions. But then this place wouldn't exist.
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You are not the reason this place exists.Sledog said:I'm in favor of retroactive abortions. But then this place wouldn't exist.
HTH