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Sarkisian: 2012 Huskies couldn't overcome the youth factor

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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,561 Founders Club

    Nothing will change.

    As a bench warmer in the SEC, I played very little, but I did see how winning teams are built. Cream Puff is not even close.

    Lack of preparedness, direction, attitude, toughness, player development and accountability. These are coaching problems. I hope I'm wrong, but I don't see things changing until a new head coach takes over.

    And after having a 12-1 season as BYU QB, and being a protege under Pete Carroll at USC, Sark knows absolutely nothing about how a winning team is built. He has never seen what a winning team looks like, has he?

    So I guess you must have some kind of privileged insider's perspective of the UW program and you see the daily ins and outs of the program that leads you to the conclusion that nothing will change and Sark is not even close to building a winning team?
    Have you been paying attention at all the last 4 years
  • NorthLakeDub
    NorthLakeDub Member Posts: 47

    Nothing will change.

    As a bench warmer in the SEC, I played very little, but I did see how winning teams are built. Cream Puff is not even close.

    Lack of preparedness, direction, attitude, toughness, player development and accountability. These are coaching problems. I hope I'm wrong, but I don't see things changing until a new head coach takes over.

    And after having a 12-1 season as BYU QB, and being a protege under Pete Carroll at USC, Sark knows absolutely nothing about how a winning team is built. He has never seen what a winning team looks like, has he?

    So I guess you must have some kind of privileged insider's perspective of the UW program and you see the daily ins and outs of the program that leads you to the conclusion that nothing will change and Sark is not even close to building a winning team?
    Have you been paying attention at all the last 4 years
    Have you been paying attention at all for the last 12 years?
  • NorthLakeDub
    NorthLakeDub Member Posts: 47

    Nothing will change.

    As a bench warmer in the SEC, I played very little, but I did see how winning teams are built. Cream Puff is not even close.

    Lack of preparedness, direction, attitude, toughness, player development and accountability. These are coaching problems. I hope I'm wrong, but I don't see things changing until a new head coach takes over.

    And after having a 12-1 season as BYU QB, and being a protege under Pete Carroll at USC, Sark knows absolutely nothing about how a winning team is built. He has never seen what a winning team looks like, has he?

    So I guess you must have some kind of privileged insider's perspective of the UW program and you see the daily ins and outs of the program that leads you to the conclusion that nothing will change and Sark is not even close to building a winning team?
    Have you been paying attention at all the last 4 years
    I've seen a program on the rise the last 4 years. Yes there have been a lot of ups and downs (some seriously embarrassing lows). But that is not an indication of where we will stand in the coming years. New Husky Stadium, new Era of Championship Husky Football.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,561 Founders Club
    7-6 rising over 7-6 rising over 7-6. Winners win. They aren't rising they fucking rose
  • Southerndawg
    Southerndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,354 Founders Club

    7-6 rising over 7-6 rising over 7-6. Winners win. They aren't rising they fucking rose plateaued

  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,413 Standard Supporter
    edited June 2013
    Northlake, what more do you need to see?

    Do you think Sark's road record is a fluke? Do you think things are going to magically change this year because the players are older?

    Do you think we will play physical? We have been soft for four years.

    Have you seen the lack of discipline?

    We will go 1-3 (best case scenario) in conference road games. We will lose to Oregon. Then, we will probably blow a game against Boise State, Arizona, or Illinois. No way we finish better than 8-4 this year. We will miss a bowl before we win 10.

  • NorthLakeDub
    NorthLakeDub Member Posts: 47

    So if they had been 9-4 last season like they should have been, then would you say the program is in good condition? A couple of stupid fluke losses away from being 9-4 and the program is hopeless? Yes those losses were an embarrassment and inexcusable mistakes. But that does not define where the program is currently at.

    The program rose to respectability the last 4 years, and now with the new Husky Stadium and facilities upgrades, we can finally "take the next step" (I know you all love that quote from last season haha) to elite status.

    We fell behind in the facilities race for far too long. Not even Nick Saban could win the Pac 12 with a piece of shit stadium with a fucking track around the field, and a decade of miserable losing seasons.
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 69,822 Founders Club


    So if they had been 9-4 last season like they should have been, then would you say the program is in good condition? A couple of stupid fluke losses away from being 9-4 and the program is hopeless? Yes those losses were an embarrassment and inexcusable mistakes. But that does not define where the program is currently at.

    The program rose to respectability the last 4 years, and now with the new Husky Stadium and facilities upgrades, we can finally "take the next step" (I know you all love that quote from last season haha) to elite status.

    We fell behind in the facilities race for far too long. Not even Nick Saban could win the Pac 12 with a piece of shit stadium with a fucking track around the field, and a decade of miserable losing seasons.

    If you're going to count losses as wins, then let's be fair to Stanford and Oregon State. They are looking at their games with us last year as "stupid fluke losses", due primarily to horrible QB play from their starters. It can be argued that under normal circumstances, OSU and Stanford beat us easily last year.

    But we beat them, so we count those as victories, don't we? You can't give a team credit for winning games they didn't win.
  • NorthLakeDub
    NorthLakeDub Member Posts: 47


    So if they had been 9-4 last season like they should have been, then would you say the program is in good condition? A couple of stupid fluke losses away from being 9-4 and the program is hopeless? Yes those losses were an embarrassment and inexcusable mistakes. But that does not define where the program is currently at.

    The program rose to respectability the last 4 years, and now with the new Husky Stadium and facilities upgrades, we can finally "take the next step" (I know you all love that quote from last season haha) to elite status.

    We fell behind in the facilities race for far too long. Not even Nick Saban could win the Pac 12 with a piece of shit stadium with a fucking track around the field, and a decade of miserable losing seasons.

    If you're going to count losses as wins, then let's be fair to Stanford and Oregon State. They are looking at their games with us last year as "stupid fluke losses", due primarily to horrible QB play from their starters. It can be argued that under normal circumstances, OSU and Stanford beat us easily last year.

    But we beat them, so we count those as victories, don't we? You can't give a team credit for winning games they didn't win.
    I am not counting losses as wins. A loss is a loss and a win is a win. My point is that the program can't be defined as hopeless based on our shitty games.

    I agree, the discipline has been bad and we have to cut out the stupid penalties and mistakes. But I just don't agree with the sentiment that we are soft and lack a winning attitude. I think we have a tough mentality and great swagger.

    We beat Stanford and OSU with smashmouth football. Our defense had a lot to do with the bad QB play in those games. Those were examples of how tough we can be. Now we need to turn the corner, "take the next step", however you want to say it, and finally get the consistent level of play that all of us die hard Husky Fans want and expect instead of this bipolar up and down crap.
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 69,822 Founders Club
    edited June 2013
    Sure you are. That's the basis for your argument. The Stanford QB that started that day couldn't hit the broadside of a barn and has since quit the team. Same for the OSU QB, in terms of inaccuracy. Do you think if Hogan started that day that the Husky Smashmouth play would've won? No way. But they played the Nunes guy, and the Huskies DID win.