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I am a progressive. I want 19th century technology.
California for all the bullshit about how stupid liberals run things, understands that they better keep building freeways because that's what we want.
Jerry is now asking Trump for money for his super train from Santa Clarita to Bakersfield.
We are not a dense urban area where a subway is awesome. We are the west. Take your trains and fuck off already. -
Higher degrees of homogeneity improves political consensus.AZDuck said:
You know that Switzerland is split among the three main Euro ethnicities (German, French, Italian) right? That and over a quarter of the population there isn't even Swiss, but has the Swiss version of a green card?GrundleStiltzkin said:I kinda dig trails for intra-MSA transportation and can deal with begrudgingly cope with the operational subsidies. It's stuff like large-scale eminent domain, clusterfuck construction, and political chinfluence of design that screw these up from the start.
Aside from the population density point above, one thing oft overlooked when trying to applying other countries solutions to the US is cultural/national/racial homogeneity. Germany remain mostly German, Swiss in Switzerland, etc. It makes a difference.
TL;DR - the Turks need maor tim.
I don't think that having different ethnic groups makes rail transportation not work. London's a helluva lot more diverse than Seattle or Portland. -
Reality. It's a bitch sometimesRaceBannon said:I am a progressive. I want 19th century technology.
California for all the bullshit about how stupid liberals run things, understands that they better keep building freeways because that's what we want.
Jerry is now asking Trump for money for his super train from Santa Clarita to Bakersfield.
We are not a dense urban area where a subway is awesome. We are the west. Take your trains and fuck off already.
https://la.curbed.com/2012/3/26/10385086/los-angeles-is-the-most-densely-populated-urban-area-in-the-us
LA is 2/3 as dense as London
Metro Portland is more densely populated than Metro Zurich -
LA is spread out. A fixed rail runs through South Central to get to LAX. Geepers
So Cal is not dense but train nuts are -
Lemme guess....AZDuck said:It's almost like rail transport has never been tried and been successful in other developed countries or something
Sweden has the best rail System ever developed, all the operators pay 70% in taxes, And they all love it!!!! -
I'm just glad that we pay you to make 30 minute poasts that miss the point on a shit website.AZDuck said:
Japan's Shinkansen, Birthplace of High Speed RailPurpleJ said:Add rail transport to things ruined by the government.
France's TGV, World's Fastest Train
Germany's High Speed ICE Network
Switzerland's Integrated Rail Network - One ticket for Rail, Trams, Buses Goes Everywhere
Zurich Tram and Bus Map - Metro Area 2.4 million
Tokyo Commuter Rail and Metro Map - Metro Area 35 million
London Metro Map
New Gotthard Tunnel Under the Alps
Spain's High Speed Rail Network
China's High Speed Rail Network
South Korea's High Speed Rail Network
Kuala Lumpur(!) High Speed Metro
Istanbul Tunnel Under the Bosphorus Connecting Europe and Asia
Portland's Rail Network (built since 1986)
And then there's Seattle and Tacoma
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Tac Town Lame
When government investment is creating high-speed rail subway, commuter rail and light rail links that bridge continents, tunnel under Alps, move millions of people a day faster, more comfortably, more efficiently and with less pollution than the US dependence on air travel
and cars (hello, let's sit for a while) ... AND
The Spanish, the Turks, the Malaysians and even fucking communist Portland are kicking your ass at it-
It might be time to reconsider your position.
The problem isn't getting around the state nor the Country, The problem is getting around town. And your big phallic bullet trains don't serve that need. Only London and half ass Portland demonstrate better alternatives than driving your car to get around town. -
get back to me when the Swedish economy collapses next year, fuckosalemcoog said:
I'm just glad that we pay you to make 30 minute poasts that miss the point on a shit website.AZDuck said:
Japan's Shinkansen, Birthplace of High Speed RailPurpleJ said:Add rail transport to things ruined by the government.
France's TGV, World's Fastest Train
Germany's High Speed ICE Network
Switzerland's Integrated Rail Network - One ticket for Rail, Trams, Buses Goes Everywhere
Zurich Tram and Bus Map - Metro Area 2.4 million
Tokyo Commuter Rail and Metro Map - Metro Area 35 million
London Metro Map
New Gotthard Tunnel Under the Alps
Spain's High Speed Rail Network
China's High Speed Rail Network
South Korea's High Speed Rail Network
Kuala Lumpur(!) High Speed Metro
Istanbul Tunnel Under the Bosphorus Connecting Europe and Asia
Portland's Rail Network (built since 1986)
And then there's Seattle and Tacoma
Tac Town Lame
When government investment is creating high-speed rail subway, commuter rail and light rail links that bridge continents, tunnel under Alps, move millions of people a day faster, more comfortably, more efficiently and with less pollution than the US dependence on air travel
and cars (hello, let's sit for a while) ... AND
The Spanish, the Turks, the Malaysians and even fucking communist Portland are kicking your ass at it-
It might be time to reconsider your position.
The problem isn't getting around the state nor the Country, The problem is getting around town. And your big phallic bullet trains don't serve that need. Only London and half ass Portland demonstrate better alternatives than driving your car to get around town. -
Personally, whenever I need a ride, I'd rather just hit a button on my smart phone and have a vehicle show up that will take me anywhere I want to go, at any time of day, for an unsubsidized, modest fee.
21st century solutions for a 21st century world are working in over 75 countries/500 cities around the world, right now, today. Rapid expansion would be instantaneous if government would get the fuck out of the way.
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who paid for the road that your Uber drove on?doogie said:Personally, whenever I need a ride, I'd rather just hit a button on my smart phone and have a vehicle show up that will take me anywhere I want to go, at any time of day, for an unsubsidized, modest fee.
21st century solutions for a 21st century world are working in over 75 countries/500 cities around the world, right now, today. Rapid expansion would be instantaneous if government would get the fuck out of the way.
TAXPAYERS DID!
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After the government stole a bunch of the ROAD and GAS taxes to pay for idiotic 19th century techAZDuck said:
who paid for the road that your Uber drove on?doogie said:Personally, whenever I need a ride, I'd rather just hit a button on my smart phone and have a vehicle show up that will take me anywhere I want to go, at any time of day, for an unsubsidized, modest fee.
21st century solutions for a 21st century world are working in over 75 countries/500 cities around the world, right now, today. Rapid expansion would be instantaneous if government would get the fuck out of the way.
TAXPAYERS DID!
