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  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    edited May 2017
    Gas taxes, sales taxes, property taxes, tolls, B&O taxes and vehicle taxes from the vehicle owner. Add in also, income and payroll taxes paid by the companies and workers providing the technolog(ies)

    You didn't know this?
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    this isn't what a "green" solution means.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,919
    AZDuck said:

    doogie said:

    Personally, whenever I need a ride, I'd rather just hit a button on my smart phone and have a vehicle show up that will take me anywhere I want to go, at any time of day, for an unsubsidized, modest fee.

    21st century solutions for a 21st century world are working in over 75 countries/500 cities around the world, right now, today. Rapid expansion would be instantaneous if government would get the fuck out of the way.

    who paid for the road that your Uber drove on?

    TAXPAYERS DID!

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    Yep the same ones that are paying you to make an ass out of your self all day on HH
  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    salemcoog said:

    AZDuck said:

    doogie said:

    Personally, whenever I need a ride, I'd rather just hit a button on my smart phone and have a vehicle show up that will take me anywhere I want to go, at any time of day, for an unsubsidized, modest fee.

    21st century solutions for a 21st century world are working in over 75 countries/500 cities around the world, right now, today. Rapid expansion would be instantaneous if government would get the fuck out of the way.

    who paid for the road that your Uber drove on?

    TAXPAYERS DID!

    image
    Yep the same ones that are paying you to make an ass out of your self all day on HH
    Sweden. Collapsing. Get on it.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,222
    Switzerland's light rail system is great ... I've ridden it on a few occasions.

    But people have to ask themselves why it works in a place like Switzerland and then figure out if the reasons for it working are the same in the United States.

    Life is slower in Switzerland ... nobody is in a constant rush like we typically are in the US.

    When I would fly into Zurich and then need to get to my company's office after about an hour train ride, I still had about a 15 minute walk from where I got off the train to get to my office. That's ok if nobody is in an urgent hurry ... but when everybody's in an urgent hurry, those minutes ... for example, if the train for me to get to/from my office right now was to take 45 minutes with a 15 minute walk each way from the train stop to the office ... what's different between that and spending an hour in my car but parking at my office and then having the flexibility to leave when/how I needed to during the day?

    There's an entire infrastructure situation that is tied around mass transportation that has to be flushed out. It's a great system for those that it works for ... but for others, it's square peg round hole.
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,676

    Intercity rail is a whole different ballgame.

    The US just barely has any major cities that are 100-300 miles away.

    And the ones that are are generally part of a nonstop metro area where the costs of actually getting the land to build it is outrageous.

    Say Phoenix and LA were 250 miles apart. That would be a no brainer.

    Some of the cities in Texas would probably be most feasible right now.
    Flat open land is obviously the easiest.

    Everyone uses it on the east coast but it's not really high speed. I think it averages like 80 mph.
    Still pretty convenient.
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    Autonomous on demand passenger drones don't use roads. Airspace over current state and federal highways is already owned by the public. Technology is available today and immediately scalable.

    Technology will continue to evolve extending efficiencies. If government would simply stop impeding progress, this could start today.
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    Look here bitchfork, just because you don't understand it doesn't mean the rest of us should have to stand in line for choo choo trains to nowhere that aren't even built
  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    doogie said:

    Autonomous on demand passenger drones don't use roads. Airspace over current state and federal highways is already owned by the public. Technology is available today and immediately scalable.

    Technology will continue to evolve extending efficiencies. If government would simply stop impeding progress, this could start today.

    link?