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HFNY
HFNY Member Posts: 5,402
Anyone renew their car tabs lately? I suggest you do it on an empty stomach.

And while sales taxes keep going up as our roads start resembling those of a failing Banana Republic, King County Metro laughs at all of us working stiffs.....too many people in the wagon and not enough pulling it. Read it and weep:

thenewstribune.com/news/databases/article25861870.html?appSession=17149771349069588924019006104663890832108716243626052415517130961217930649508662484151180510563787058088032789682835098963182658&PageID=2&PrevPageID=1&cpipage=1&CPISortType=&CPIorderBy=
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  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    HFNY said:

    Anyone renew their car tabs lately? I suggest you do it on an empty stomach.

    And while sales taxes keep going up as our roads start resembling those of a failing Banana Republic, King County Metro laughs at all of us working stiffs.....too many people in the wagon and not enough pulling it. Read it and weep:

    thenewstribune.com/news/databases/article25861870.html?appSession=17149771349069588924019006104663890832108716243626052415517130961217930649508662484151180510563787058088032789682835098963182658&PageID=2&PrevPageID=1&cpipage=1&CPISortType=&CPIorderBy=

    Don't you live in Phoenix?
  • Mosster47
    Mosster47 Member Posts: 6,246
    Infrastructure is boring, bro. If I'm spending someone else's money I'm not wasting it on the essentials.

    I'm stoked for EZ-Pass everywhere so I can pay $9 each way to get to work...
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club
    Ryde ur bike 2 wurk lol
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662
    AZDuck said:

    HFNY said:

    Anyone renew their car tabs lately? I suggest you do it on an empty stomach.

    And while sales taxes keep going up as our roads start resembling those of a failing Banana Republic, King County Metro laughs at all of us working stiffs.....too many people in the wagon and not enough pulling it. Read it and weep:

    thenewstribune.com/news/databases/article25861870.html?appSession=17149771349069588924019006104663890832108716243626052415517130961217930649508662484151180510563787058088032789682835098963182658&PageID=2&PrevPageID=1&cpipage=1&CPISortType=&CPIorderBy=

    Don't you live in Phoenix?
    Az =\= Arizona

  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381

    AZDuck said:

    HFNY said:

    Anyone renew their car tabs lately? I suggest you do it on an empty stomach.

    And while sales taxes keep going up as our roads start resembling those of a failing Banana Republic, King County Metro laughs at all of us working stiffs.....too many people in the wagon and not enough pulling it. Read it and weep:

    thenewstribune.com/news/databases/article25861870.html?appSession=17149771349069588924019006104663890832108716243626052415517130961217930649508662484151180510563787058088032789682835098963182658&PageID=2&PrevPageID=1&cpipage=1&CPISortType=&CPIorderBy=

    Don't you live in Phoenix?
    Az =\= Arizona

    lol, fuck off
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    HFNY said:

    Anyone renew their car tabs lately? I suggest you do it on an empty stomach.

    And while sales taxes keep going up as our roads start resembling those of a failing Banana Republic, King County Metro laughs at all of us working stiffs.....too many people in the wagon and not enough pulling it. Read it and weep:

    thenewstribune.com/news/databases/article25861870.html?appSession=17149771349069588924019006104663890832108716243626052415517130961217930649508662484151180510563787058088032789682835098963182658&PageID=2&PrevPageID=1&cpipage=1&CPISortType=&CPIorderBy=

    You sound poor.
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    Uber-Pool. Autonomous. Drones.

    - 100% privately financed

    - can be implemented immediately

    - require no additional freeway space

    - scalable

    Required: political courage
  • Mosster47
    Mosster47 Member Posts: 6,246
    Tequilla said:

    Anybody signing off on any single person making $100k a year in OT should be fired on the spot

    Do you want to clean the shitters at a public transportation hub? Me neither. Shut up and pay the man.
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,542 Founders Club
    A friend of mine's tabs for his truck went from $250 to $600.
  • priapism
    priapism Member Posts: 2,306
    I don't understand the love for light-rail. A railroaded transportation system. I think bus-only lanes and elevated bus-only lanes in the bad traffic areas make much more sense. At least the buses can pursue and continue on their own individual routes on side-streets and major arterials after they by-pass the worst of the traffic. Light-rail works great for those who live within 5-6 blocks of a station, not so much for everyone else. That light rail system will be obsolete by the time they finish it. I left Seattle, because of the traffic and lack of sun.
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662
    priapism said:

    I don't understand the love for light-rail. A railroaded transportation system. I think bus-only lanes and elevated bus-only lanes in the bad traffic areas make much more sense. At least the buses can pursue and continue on their own individual routes on side-streets and major arterials after they by-pass the worst of the traffic. Light-rail works great for those who live within 5-6 blocks of a station, not so much for everyone else. That light rail system will be obsolete by the time they finish it. I left Seattle, because of the traffic and lack of sun.

    Our light rail here is legit.

    It's fixed location is actually it's biggest advantage because you build around it.

    The main issue is that the overhead lines are expensive and ugly.
    Once we have a better leap in battery technology and as cities keep getting denser it'll make more sense than it does now.
  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    It's almost like rail transport has never been tried and been successful in other developed countries or something
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    It was tried here in the 1850's.

    Since then, new technology has emerged.
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club
    Add rail transport to things ruined by the government.
  • Mosster47
    Mosster47 Member Posts: 6,246
    priapism said:

    I don't understand the love for light-rail. A railroaded transportation system. I think bus-only lanes and elevated bus-only lanes in the bad traffic areas make much more sense. At least the buses can pursue and continue on their own individual routes on side-streets and major arterials after they by-pass the worst of the traffic. Light-rail works great for those who live within 5-6 blocks of a station, not so much for everyone else. That light rail system will be obsolete by the time they finish it. I left Seattle, because of the traffic and lack of sun.

    Hi. White Americans don't ride buses.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,130 Standard Supporter
    priapism said:

    I don't understand the love for light-rail. A railroaded transportation system. I think bus-only lanes and elevated bus-only lanes in the bad traffic areas make much more sense. At least the buses can pursue and continue on their own individual routes on side-streets and major arterials after they by-pass the worst of the traffic. Light-rail works great for those who live within 5-6 blocks of a station, not so much for everyone else. That light rail system will be obsolete by the time they finish it. I left Seattle, because of the traffic and lack of sun.

    I left Seattle because of the elevated level of faggotry and arrogant lack of leadership across virtually every facet of life (#gosonics).

  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    priapism said:

    I don't understand the love for light-rail. A railroaded transportation system. I think bus-only lanes and elevated bus-only lanes in the bad traffic areas make much more sense. At least the buses can pursue and continue on their own individual routes on side-streets and major arterials after they by-pass the worst of the traffic. Light-rail works great for those who live within 5-6 blocks of a station, not so much for everyone else. That light rail system will be obsolete by the time they finish it. I left Seattle, because of the traffic and lack of sun.

    I left Seattle because of the elevated level of faggotry and arrogant lack of leadership across virtually every facet of life (#gosonics).

    Getting rid of the shit tier NBA is one of the few good things Seattle has done in the past 20 years.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,130 Standard Supporter

    priapism said:

    I don't understand the love for light-rail. A railroaded transportation system. I think bus-only lanes and elevated bus-only lanes in the bad traffic areas make much more sense. At least the buses can pursue and continue on their own individual routes on side-streets and major arterials after they by-pass the worst of the traffic. Light-rail works great for those who live within 5-6 blocks of a station, not so much for everyone else. That light rail system will be obsolete by the time they finish it. I left Seattle, because of the traffic and lack of sun.

    I left Seattle because of the elevated level of faggotry and arrogant lack of leadership across virtually every facet of life (#gosonics).

    Getting rid of the shit tier NBA is one of the few good things Seattle has done in the past 20 years.
    Because pro soccer is so much better?!?

  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    priapism said:

    I don't understand the love for light-rail. A railroaded transportation system. I think bus-only lanes and elevated bus-only lanes in the bad traffic areas make much more sense. At least the buses can pursue and continue on their own individual routes on side-streets and major arterials after they by-pass the worst of the traffic. Light-rail works great for those who live within 5-6 blocks of a station, not so much for everyone else. That light rail system will be obsolete by the time they finish it. I left Seattle, because of the traffic and lack of sun.

    I left Seattle because of the elevated level of faggotry and arrogant lack of leadership across virtually every facet of life (#gosonics).

    Getting rid of the shit tier NBA is one of the few good things Seattle has done in the past 20 years.
    Because pro soccer is so much better?!?

    It sucks ass, but at least more than three teams can win the championship.
  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,739 Founders Club
    I left Seattle because it sucks.
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072

    A friend of mine's tabs for his truck went from $250 to $600.

    Sounds like he should sell it... oh, wait! He's buried. He can't!
  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    edited May 2017
    PurpleJ said:

    Add rail transport to things ruined by the government.

    Japan's Shinkansen, Birthplace of High Speed Rail
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    France's TGV, World's Fastest Train
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    Germany's High Speed ICE Network
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    Switzerland's Integrated Rail Network - One ticket for Rail, Trams, Buses Goes Everywhere
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    Zurich Tram and Bus Map - Metro Area 2.4 million
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    Tokyo Commuter Rail and Metro Map - Metro Area 35 million
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    London Metro Map
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    New Gotthard Tunnel Under the Alps
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    Spain's High Speed Rail Network
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    China's High Speed Rail Network
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    South Korea's High Speed Rail Network
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    Kuala Lumpur(!) High Speed Metro
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    Istanbul Tunnel Under the Bosphorus Connecting Europe and Asia
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    Portland's Rail Network (built since 1986)
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    And then there's Seattle and Tacoma

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    Tac Town Lame

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    When government investment is creating high-speed rail subway, commuter rail and light rail links that bridge continents, tunnel under Alps, move millions of people a day faster, more comfortably, more efficiently and with less pollution than the US dependence on air travel

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    and cars (hello, let's sit for a while) ... AND

    The Spanish, the Turks, the Malaysians and even fucking communist Portland are kicking your ass at it-

    It might be time to reconsider your position.

  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club
    Either regulation made it so the only attractive investment in rail is through the government, or the technology itself is obsolete and no private company will touch it.
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    thanks for documenting the extent of the Government Rail boondoggle.

    It's now the 21st century. Time to move on from the 1850's
  • Mosster47
    Mosster47 Member Posts: 6,246
    AZDuck said:

    PurpleJ said:

    Add rail transport to things ruined by the government.

    Japan's Shinkansen, Birthplace of High Speed Rail
    image
    image

    France's TGV, World's Fastest Train
    image
    image

    Germany's High Speed ICE Network
    image
    image

    Switzerland's Integrated Rail Network - One ticket for Rail, Trams, Buses Goes Everywhere
    image
    image
    image

    Zurich Tram and Bus Map - Metro Area 2.4 million
    image

    Tokyo Commuter Rail and Metro Map - Metro Area 35 million
    image
    image

    London Metro Map
    image
    image

    New Gotthard Tunnel Under the Alps
    image
    image
    image


    Spain's High Speed Rail Network
    image
    image

    China's High Speed Rail Network
    image
    image

    South Korea's High Speed Rail Network
    image
    image

    Kuala Lumpur(!) High Speed Metro
    image

    Istanbul Tunnel Under the Bosphorus Connecting Europe and Asia
    image
    image

    Portland's Rail Network (built since 1986)
    image
    image

    And then there's Seattle and Tacoma

    image
    image
    image

    Tac Town Lame

    image
    image

    When government investment is creating high-speed rail subway, commuter rail and light rail links that bridge continents, tunnel under Alps, move millions of people a day faster, more comfortably, more efficiently and with less pollution than the US dependence on air travel

    image
    image

    and cars (hello, let's sit for a while) ... AND

    The Spanish, the Turks, the Malaysians and even fucking communist Portland are kicking your ass at it-

    It might be time to reconsider your position.

    The DC Metro is another great example. To me, it's the best metro rail system in the US.
  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    PurpleJ said:

    Either regulation made it so the only attractive investment in rail air travel and auto travel is through the government, or the auto technology itself is obsolete and no private company will touch it absent massive subsidy.

    Government built "freeways" - late 1950's tech
    Internal combustion engines - late 1890's tech
    Airports and runways - built and maintained largely by governments
    Roads and freeways - built and maintained largely by governments
    Oil and gasoline - prices managed by a foreign cartel and US government stockpile, plus massive military intervention in the Middle East

    All transportation modes require government subsidy. Which ones move the most people more efficiently in the most comfort with the least disruption and consumption of energy?

    If only someone had studied this question...

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  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club
    "All transportation modes require government subsidy"

    WRONG