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  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 38,561 Standard Supporter
    edited October 2016
    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    dhdawg said:

    Sledog said:

    dhdawg said:

    He had a democratic supermajority. Had he been a great politician who was willing to twist arms to get what he wanted he could have even gotten single payer. But instead he didn't even try for that, and caved quickly off of the public option.
    But he's a far left Marxist apparently

    Maybe you should research him a little and read some of what he has written about himself and said about himself. A quick look into what little is known about him would tell you he's a FUCKING COMMUNIST! So was his father, mother, mentor, and grandparents.
    he might have had those opinions, but how he's governed is no farther to the left than a centrist.
    His immigration order deported all of those with criminal records.
    He made a bunch of the bush tax cuts that were sunsetting permanent.
    He implemented Obamacare, a heritage foundation proposal.
    He's intervened in 7 different countries, and ramped up the drone program.
    Expanded the NSA's spying programs
    But I get it, facts don't matter with you idiots


    He hasn't deported anyone and refuses to do so.
    He's raised taxes immensely one of the biggest being ObaMao care.
    Obama care is one of the tenets of communist control, seize health care.
    Spying on US citizens has reached unprecedented levels. Every phone call, email etc.
    He's intervened in the middle east to assist the radical muslims in taking over.
    But I get it communists downplay all of their objectives and blame others.
    You are the stupidest motherfucker here. Yes, giving private insurance companies 20 million new customers is the definition of communism. For fuck's sakes.
    Me stupid? Maybe you missed the supreme court ruling that it is indeed a tax?
    Forcing the productive to pay for the nonproductive isn't capitalism. More mouth breathers living off the rest of us.
    Our? founding fathers disagree with you. Read the general welfare clause in the Constitution.
    Yeah they believed it so much they didn't have personal income tax. Cuba's only 90 miles need help packing?
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 38,561 Standard Supporter
    Hondo your girl has advice for you
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    dhdawg said:

    Sledog said:

    dhdawg said:

    He had a democratic supermajority. Had he been a great politician who was willing to twist arms to get what he wanted he could have even gotten single payer. But instead he didn't even try for that, and caved quickly off of the public option.
    But he's a far left Marxist apparently

    Maybe you should research him a little and read some of what he has written about himself and said about himself. A quick look into what little is known about him would tell you he's a FUCKING COMMUNIST! So was his father, mother, mentor, and grandparents.
    he might have had those opinions, but how he's governed is no farther to the left than a centrist.
    His immigration order deported all of those with criminal records.
    He made a bunch of the bush tax cuts that were sunsetting permanent.
    He implemented Obamacare, a heritage foundation proposal.
    He's intervened in 7 different countries, and ramped up the drone program.
    Expanded the NSA's spying programs
    But I get it, facts don't matter with you idiots


    He hasn't deported anyone and refuses to do so.
    He's raised taxes immensely one of the biggest being ObaMao care.
    Obama care is one of the tenets of communist control, seize health care.
    Spying on US citizens has reached unprecedented levels. Every phone call, email etc.
    He's intervened in the middle east to assist the radical muslims in taking over.
    But I get it communists downplay all of their objectives and blame others.
    You are the stupidest motherfucker here. Yes, giving private insurance companies 20 million new customers is the definition of communism. For fuck's sakes.
    Me stupid? Maybe you missed the supreme court ruling that it is indeed a tax?
    Forcing the productive to pay for the nonproductive isn't capitalism. More mouth breathers living off the rest of us.
    Our? founding fathers disagree with you. Read the general welfare clause in the Constitution.
    Yeah they believed it so much they didn't have personal income tax. Cuba's only 90 miles need help packing?
    In 1789 Benjamin Franklin writes “Nothing is certain but death and taxes."
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,515 Founders Club
    edited October 2016
    2001400ex said:


    Anyone paying attention knows that Obamacare was never intended to work. It was meant to fail spectacularly so the political left would have the leverage they need to push the masses to 100% government run "single payer" healthcare. Having control of that much of the economy, particularly in a sector that has such inelastic demand results in complete and perpetual political power, which is exactly what the end game is. Throw in "free college education" and open borders over flowing with guaranteed votes and it's game over. This is the culmination of over a century of "progressive" politics. #draintheswamp is too late.

    Great analysis as always. Do you really think adding 20 million people to private insurance companies is a path to single payer health care? With the huge insurance lobby that bought off Democrats?
    Nov 8th can't get here soon enough.

    #byfelicia
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    pawz said:

    2001400ex said:


    Anyone paying attention knows that Obamacare was never intended to work. It was meant to fail spectacularly so the political left would have the leverage they need to push the masses to 100% government run "single payer" healthcare. Having control of that much of the economy, particularly in a sector that has such inelastic demand results in complete and perpetual political power, which is exactly what the end game is. Throw in "free college education" and open borders over flowing with guaranteed votes and it's game over. This is the culmination of over a century of "progressive" politics. #draintheswamp is too late.

    Great analysis as always. Do you really think adding 20 million people to private insurance companies is a path to single payer health care? With the huge insurance lobby that bought off Democrats?
    Nov 8th can't get here soon enough.

    #byfelicia
    Agreed. No more purple J.
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,515 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    pawz said:

    2001400ex said:


    Anyone paying attention knows that Obamacare was never intended to work. It was meant to fail spectacularly so the political left would have the leverage they need to push the masses to 100% government run "single payer" healthcare. Having control of that much of the economy, particularly in a sector that has such inelastic demand results in complete and perpetual political power, which is exactly what the end game is. Throw in "free college education" and open borders over flowing with guaranteed votes and it's game over. This is the culmination of over a century of "progressive" politics. #draintheswamp is too late.

    Great analysis as always. Do you really think adding 20 million people to private insurance companies is a path to single payer health care? With the huge insurance lobby that bought off Democrats?
    Nov 8th can't get here soon enough.

    #byfelicia
    Agreed. No more purple J.
    No.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    The inability of insurance companies to properly underwrite and charge appropriate premiums for those with pre-existing conditions and without current insurance is the fundamental flaw of Obamacare.

    For example, if a person with untreated Hepatitis C applies for Obamacare (who by law cannot get rejected) and it is known that the preferred treatment is a six month Harvoni pill regimen costing $90,000, what should be the fair insurance premium for that person? If the mandated premium is less than $90,000 plus an appropriate insurance company profit, who should pay the difference?

    I would love to not carry insurance on my house but then be able to buy insurance after it catches on fire without a paying a premium surcharge.

    I don't think that's how the pre existing conditions clause works.
    The word "think" relating to you is the problem here...what do you believe a "pre existing" condition is?
    Can you even read what I wrote?

    http://obamacarefacts.com/pre-existing-conditions/
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    Nobody reads what you write anymore. Why should they?
  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 6,011
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    The inability of insurance companies to properly underwrite and charge appropriate premiums for those with pre-existing conditions and without current insurance is the fundamental flaw of Obamacare.

    For example, if a person with untreated Hepatitis C applies for Obamacare (who by law cannot get rejected) and it is known that the preferred treatment is a six month Harvoni pill regimen costing $90,000, what should be the fair insurance premium for that person? If the mandated premium is less than $90,000 plus an appropriate insurance company profit, who should pay the difference?

    I would love to not carry insurance on my house but then be able to buy insurance after it catches on fire without a paying a premium surcharge.

    I don't think that's how the pre existing conditions clause works.
    The word "think" relating to you is the problem here...what do you believe a "pre existing" condition is?
    Can you even read what I wrote?

    http://obamacarefacts.com/pre-existing-conditions/
    I read what you wrote, and then I laughed when you now posted a link that says exactly the opposite of what you think.

    God you are a fucking moron.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,443 Founders Club
    Obama explained that its the media's fault so nothing to see here