Some 2nd Hand Info
QB - We are fucked. All three made multiple bone headed decisions. He said Lindquist looked the best. We know he sucks though. Lately, we have been seeing a bunch of "well, maybe he's gotten better, he played well the first half in Hawaii, blah blah. And he probably has gotten better. But a guy that can't beat out Miles and doesn't have the coach's confidence to get a shot, even when Miles was really struggling.... It's common sense here. We know he's not any good.
He said KJ looks the part, but has terrible accuracy. Browning struggled, which is expected but I wish he came in and killed it right away. My hope is Browning develops quickly. I have only watched film, but he seems like the only QB of the 3 that has the skill set for Petersen's offense. Otherwise Petersen needs to be flexible with his offense because neither Lindquist or KJ will be consistently accurate. I don't know how to work around that without overhauling the offense, but it's what will need to be done.
I don't like already being down to plan C this year in recruiting considering we almost certainly don't have an even average Pac 12 QB at this point. Is there another Pac 12 school with a QB situation as bad as ours? I had a little doog hope that Miles was leaving because it was obvious KJ and/or Browning were going to start.
DB's were okay. Said the safeties except Budda are terrible. Corners were better. Lake told my buddy and a couple other coaches there that things would look a lot different in the fall. He was a big fan of Lake.
He thought the WR's were good. Said they would be often open but the QB would either throw to another covered guy or couldn't get the ball there accurately.
TL, DR - Our QB play is still really bad.
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QB play will be what completely dictates our season ... bottom line.
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sounds like quite a nationally relevant program we've seen built over the last 15 years.
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It's a shame that Petersen has ruined the great quarterback legacy that Sark built here
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*PetermanRaceBannon said:It's a shame that Petersen has ruined the great quarterback legacy that Sark built here
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All I'm hoping for is a qb who can hand the ball off to the rbs without fumbling.. a good pass here and there would be good bonus. It's awfully cold for September though......
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Fuck
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I'm just reading this as a continuation of the @RoadDawg55, "I love Cyler" narrative.
If I don't do that, I'm going to be a suicide risk. -
Does not bode well for this season. Huskies don't have the overall team talent to get by with a "game manager" type of QB, they need a guy who can actually make plays. Sigh...
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Could always go find a LB to insert into the QB race ...Dennis_DeYoung said:I'm just reading this as a continuation of the @RoadDawg55, "I love Cyler" narrative.
If I don't do that, I'm going to be a suicide risk.
I might help you out and buy the gasoline for your trip to the Aurora Bridge if that happens. -
I talked to someone at same clinic. He said similar stuff about the QBs, Jeff's probably the starter just because. Didn't mention the accuracy part but similar tone: We know Lindy doesn't have it but he's best we got right now.
RBs: Not much to see during my guy's time there. One remark, "Dotson's tiny but really, really fast."
OL: Wasn't sure what to make of those guys. Said Brostek looked good, bigger. Seemed to be an understanding the group during spring probably wouldn't be the starting group at BSU.
Most impressed with the DL, said what some of us here had been speculating that the overall talent isn't going to fall off much from 2014. Vita Virga is really big and moves well. Disly looks good.
As for the clinic, he said it was the best in a decade, and several times more coaches in 2015 than 2014. He said Petersen had a great presentation on overall type stuff and then tackling in specific. The other standout presenter was Jake Browning's HS coach. -
You guys aren't giving me reason to up my season ticket total.
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You're welcomeHuskyJW said:You guys aren't giving me reason to up my season ticket total.
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GrundleStiltzkin said:
I talked to someone at same clinic. He said similar stuff about the QBs, Jeff's probably the starter just because. Didn't mention the accuracy part but similar tone: We know Lindy doesn't have it but he's best we got right now.
RBs: Not much to see during my guy's time there. One remark, "Dotson's tiny but really, really fast."
OL: Wasn't sure what to make of those guys. Said Brostek looked good, bigger. Seemed to be an understanding the group during spring probably wouldn't be the starting group at BSU.
Most impressed with the DL, said what some of us here had been speculating that the overall talent isn't going to fall off much from 2014. Vita Virga is really big and moves well. Disly looks good.
As for the clinic, he said it was the best in a decade, and several times more coaches in 2015 than 2014. He said Petersen had a great presentation on overall type stuff and then tackling in specific. The other standout presenter was Jake Browning's HS coach.
Thanks for the post but voted down because it depresses me.GrundleStiltzkin said:I talked to someone at same clinic. He said similar stuff about the QBs, Jeff's probably the starter just because. Didn't mention the accuracy part but similar tone: We know Lindy doesn't have it but he's best we got right now.
RBs: Not much to see during my guy's time there. One remark, "Dotson's tiny but really, really fast."
OL: Wasn't sure what to make of those guys. Said Brostek looked good, bigger. Seemed to be an understanding the group during spring probably wouldn't be the starting group at BSU.
Most impressed with the DL, said what some of us here had been speculating that the overall talent isn't going to fall off much from 2014. Vita Virga is really big and moves well. Disly looks good.
As for the clinic, he said it was the best in a decade, and several times more coaches in 2015 than 2014. He said Petersen had a great presentation on overall type stuff and then tackling in specific. The other standout presenter was Jake Browning's HS coach. -
I knew we were fucked at QB the minute we lost Cyler to the NFL.
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What I'm curious about is how much the QBs are struggling compared to last year, specifically Lindquist 2014 and 2015. Is there measurable progress between last spring and now? Is this progress sufficient or acceptable given his ceiling and given the difference in instruction between the 'basics' of year 1 and whatever they're doing now? And how do KCJS and Browning compare to Williams?
I guess these coaches might be able to provide some insight on the difference between Day 1 and Day 15 if they're back for the Spring Preview. -
I was at the clinic and practice and disagree with what your friends had to say about the QBs. I will get a post up about what I saw and my thoughts soon.
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Pepsi is dialed inCokeGreaterThanPepsi said:I was at the clinic and practice and disagree with what your friends had to say about the QBs. I will get a post up about what I saw and my thoughts soon.
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What is his ceiling?whatshouldicareabout said:What I'm curious about is how much the QBs are struggling compared to last year, specifically Lindquist 2014 and 2015. Is there measurable progress between last spring and now? Is this progress sufficient or acceptable given his ceiling and given the difference in instruction between the 'basics' of year 1 and whatever they're doing now? And how do KCJS and Browning compare to Williams?
I guess these coaches might be able to provide some insight on the difference between Day 1 and Day 15 if they're back for the Spring Preview.
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It's a shame this HS coach hasn't won a BCS bowl with all his expert knowledgeRaceBannon said:It's a shame that Petersen has ruined the great quarterback legacy that Sark built here
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The statistical reality is that every one of those coaches would love the chance to coach just one player with the athletic gifts as any UW player they saw at practice.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
It's a shame this HS coach hasn't won a BCS bowl with all his expert knowledgeRaceBannon said:It's a shame that Petersen has ruined the great quarterback legacy that Sark built here
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Sounds like RoadDawg has his own Hoss94
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I'll wait til fall to pass judgement on Pau's, Bonnell, and DuRocher
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I think most positions are in okay shape and will improve consistently. But I agree that QB play is going to be the deciding factor and might limit the appearance of progress that is made at most other positions. The reports that KJ is throwing picks and couldn't beat out Lindquist right away are definitely troubling.
I just can't believe Lindquist is that bad if he is. If he is the guy they should have him be a running QB and mix in high percentage throws and then deep bombs, which he actually is good at throwing. -
Can you name a time last year where Lindy ran like a 6-4 240 running QB?HeretoBeatmyChest said:I think most positions are in okay shape and will improve consistently. But I agree that QB play is going to be the deciding factor and might limit the appearance of progress that is made at most other positions. The reports that KJ is throwing picks and couldn't beat out Lindquist right away are definitely troubling.
I just can't believe Lindquist is that bad if he is. If he is the guy they should have him be a running QB and mix in high percentage throws and then deep bombs, which he actually is good at throwing. -
I'm not that worried about QB. The media said nobody stood out after Tuitama left U of A. Nick Foles is at worst an average NFL starter now.
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6 practices in and I already hate Browning.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:I'm not that worried about QB. The media said nobody stood out after Tuitama left U of A. Nick Foles is at worst an average NFL starter now.
NEXT!!!
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I'm not 100% convinced that Lindy can't be a serviceable QB this year ... it's very possible that he wasn't ready last year and was a bit in over his head. Unlike Miles where we struggled to find any area where he could perform at a high level, I think that there are at least a few areas where we have a sense that Lindy could perform successfully in (throwing the deep ball, running the football). If you go back to last year, you could say that one of the more impressive drives that Washington had was salting away the Hawaii game where the Swede wasn't great, but he did the things that they needed to do to get the win on those drives.HeretoBeatmyChest said:I think most positions are in okay shape and will improve consistently. But I agree that QB play is going to be the deciding factor and might limit the appearance of progress that is made at most other positions. The reports that KJ is throwing picks and couldn't beat out Lindquist right away are definitely troubling.
I just can't believe Lindquist is that bad if he is. If he is the guy they should have him be a running QB and mix in high percentage throws and then deep bombs, which he actually is good at throwing.
Magna Carta is still a RS Frosh and it's not crazy to think that he has some upside to him but is still raw. Big difference going from the scout team to starting right away. And barring Browning clearly distancing himself between now and August (which is still very possible), it's in the best interest of both him and the program to redshirt.
The bottom line is that the job is there to be had by any one of three guys if they can make the needed leap to take the job and run with it. -
The same guy who killed Browning's arm and competitive drive in one fell swoop?GrundleStiltzkin said:I talked to someone at same clinic. He said similar stuff about the QBs, Jeff's probably the starter just because. Didn't mention the accuracy part but similar tone: We know Lindy doesn't have it but he's best we got right now.
RBs: Not much to see during my guy's time there. One remark, "Dotson's tiny but really, really fast."
OL: Wasn't sure what to make of those guys. Said Brostek looked good, bigger. Seemed to be an understanding the group during spring probably wouldn't be the starting group at BSU.
Most impressed with the DL, said what some of us here had been speculating that the overall talent isn't going to fall off much from 2014. Vita Virga is really big and moves well. Disly looks good.
As for the clinic, he said it was the best in a decade, and several times more coaches in 2015 than 2014. He said Petersen had a great presentation on overall type stuff and then tackling in specific. The other standout presenter was Jake Browning's HS coach. -
One in the same. Just what I'm hearing.FremontTroll said:
The same guy who killed Browning's arm and competitive drive in one fell swoop?GrundleStiltzkin said:I talked to someone at same clinic. He said similar stuff about the QBs, Jeff's probably the starter just because. Didn't mention the accuracy part but similar tone: We know Lindy doesn't have it but he's best we got right now.
RBs: Not much to see during my guy's time there. One remark, "Dotson's tiny but really, really fast."
OL: Wasn't sure what to make of those guys. Said Brostek looked good, bigger. Seemed to be an understanding the group during spring probably wouldn't be the starting group at BSU.
Most impressed with the DL, said what some of us here had been speculating that the overall talent isn't going to fall off much from 2014. Vita Virga is really big and moves well. Disly looks good.
As for the clinic, he said it was the best in a decade, and several times more coaches in 2015 than 2014. He said Petersen had a great presentation on overall type stuff and then tackling in specific. The other standout presenter was Jake Browning's HS coach.
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Not a surprise really. The way the offense is constructed we should be a power run team with alot of 2 TE sets and Lindquist running (designed) 5-10 times a game. Below average at QB, WR, and OL. Average at RB...Average to above average at DL, way way below average at LB and Average at DB....fuck :-&
