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Plan for Pac-12 becoming a real conference again
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Protip: There are 10 shitty teams in the Pac-12 RIGHT NOW.FremontTroll said:TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Sagarin SUCKS, especially early in the season.FremontTroll said:TierbsHsotBoobs said:
No, because Oregon is average now.FremontTroll said:TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Chip is gone, that's why Oregon is being challenged now.FremontTroll said:TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Then why is the Pac-12's playoff hope fading in the first week of October?dnc said:
No.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
The net total of an upgrade using your scoring is +1.5.FremontTroll said:
Every conference loses coaches.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
The coaching drain is speaking volumes.PurpleJ said:Bring back Chip and Harbaugh. Get a real coach at USC.
It's a good start.
But the Pac has made some of the best hires in the nation the last few years. Overall the level of coaching is much improved from 3-6 years ago.
2009/2014 comparison
UW: Sark/Pete: huge improvement
WSU: Wulff/Leach: huge improvement
OSU: Riley/Riley: same
UO: Chip/Helfrich: big decline
Cal: Tedford/Dykes: small decline
Stanford: Harbaugh/Shaw: big decline
UCLA: Neuheisel/Mora: small improvement
USC: Kiffin/Sark: wash
Arizona: Stoops/RichRod: huge improvement
ASU: Erickson/Graham: small improvement
So yes the two programs that have carried the flag recently lost their elite coaches and attempted to go back to the same mold but couldn't replicate whatever element made Harbaugh and Chip winners.
But five other schools made very good hires. And after a disastrous first season Dykes has Cal playing much better in year two.
Finally- LOL USC ever and always.
Considering the fucking dreck the conference added in Colorado and Utah, it's not better off overall than it was five years ago.
But the rest of CFB is worse.
I don't think the Pac's playoff hopes are fading. Whoever wins the conference is a near lock to make the playoffs if they have 2 or fewer losses.
It is true that the conference is weaker at the top but I think its deeper. Only Stanford and USC could challenge Oregon 3-4 years ago.
If the conference has regressed its not due to coaching. I would look at recruiting first. Too many top Cali recruits committing to Oklahoma or SEC schools.
And because Arizona, WSU and UCLA (next week) are no longer complete pushovers.
2011 final Sagarin ratings:
UO- 2nd
Arizona- 64th
UCLA- 66th
WSU- 83rd
2014 prior to this week:
UO- 3rd
UCLA- 6th
Arizona- 34th
WSU- 53rd.
Then bring something else to the table other than shit opinions.
Any ranking system you can find will show the same thing: there were a number of extremely shitty teams in the Pac 3+ years ago. Arizona, ASU, UCLA, WSU...all improved massively. -
allpurpleallgold said:
Also, 2011 Oregon would beat 2014 Oregon by 50 points. Because Chip Kelly.
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Metrics can suck hope solo's dick
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I fixed the problem five years ago.PurpleJ said:
Emmert is a yes man. A politician's mindset if I ever saw it.RoadDawg55 said:
That's why I said college football sucks. I don't think Mark Emmert being president and the product being shit is coincidental. Even your beloved SEC sucks compared to 5 years ago.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
So is the Pac-12. Hope this helps.RoadDawg55 said:
It's still a shitty conference.TierbsHsotBoobs said:People in this thread forget that Louisville and Notre Dame are ACC teams now. Notre Dame won the Pac-12 South last year you know.
My plan for improving the product would be to kick out 40 or so teams, institute some form of promotion/relegation to prevent poor performing programs from being complacent, and ban OOC scheduling with lower divisions. I would also like to see a 16 team playoff, or eliminate the playoff completely and go back to just bowl games. The 4 team playoff is horse shit.