Bring back Chip and Harbaugh. Get a real coach at USC.
It's a good start.
The coaching drain is speaking volumes.
Every conference loses coaches.
But the Pac has made some of the best hires in the nation the last few years. Overall the level of coaching is much improved from 3-6 years ago.
2009/2014 comparison UW: Sark/Pete: huge improvement WSU: Wulff/Leach: huge improvement OSU: Riley/Riley: same UO: Chip/Helfrich: big decline Cal: Tedford/Dykes: small decline Stanford: Harbaugh/Shaw: big decline UCLA: Neuheisel/Mora: small improvement USC: Kiffin/Sark: wash Arizona: Stoops/RichRod: huge improvement ASU: Erickson/Graham: small improvement
So yes the two programs that have carried the flag recently lost their elite coaches and attempted to go back to the same mold but couldn't replicate whatever element made Harbaugh and Chip winners.
But five other schools made very good hires. And after a disastrous first season Dykes has Cal playing much better in year two.
Finally- LOL USC ever and always.
The net total of an upgrade using your scoring is +1.5.
Considering the fucking dreck the conference added in Colorado and Utah, it's not better off overall than it was five years ago.
Bring back Chip and Harbaugh. Get a real coach at USC.
It's a good start.
The coaching drain is speaking volumes.
Every conference loses coaches.
But the Pac has made some of the best hires in the nation the last few years. Overall the level of coaching is much improved from 3-6 years ago.
2009/2014 comparison UW: Sark/Pete: huge improvement WSU: Wulff/Leach: huge improvement OSU: Riley/Riley: same UO: Chip/Helfrich: big decline Cal: Tedford/Dykes: small decline Stanford: Harbaugh/Shaw: big decline UCLA: Neuheisel/Mora: small improvement USC: Kiffin/Sark: wash Arizona: Stoops/RichRod: huge improvement ASU: Erickson/Graham: small improvement
So yes the two programs that have carried the flag recently lost their elite coaches and attempted to go back to the same mold but couldn't replicate whatever element made Harbaugh and Chip winners.
But five other schools made very good hires. And after a disastrous first season Dykes has Cal playing much better in year two.
Finally- LOL USC ever and always.
The net total of an upgrade using your scoring is +1.5.
Considering the fucking dreck the conference added in Colorado and Utah, it's not better off overall than it was five years ago.
No.
But the rest of CFB is worse.
Then why is the Pac-12's playoff hope fading in the first week of October?
Bring back Chip and Harbaugh. Get a real coach at USC.
It's a good start.
The coaching drain is speaking volumes.
Every conference loses coaches.
But the Pac has made some of the best hires in the nation the last few years. Overall the level of coaching is much improved from 3-6 years ago.
2009/2014 comparison UW: Sark/Pete: huge improvement WSU: Wulff/Leach: huge improvement OSU: Riley/Riley: same UO: Chip/Helfrich: big decline Cal: Tedford/Dykes: small decline Stanford: Harbaugh/Shaw: big decline UCLA: Neuheisel/Mora: small improvement USC: Kiffin/Sark: wash Arizona: Stoops/RichRod: huge improvement ASU: Erickson/Graham: small improvement
So yes the two programs that have carried the flag recently lost their elite coaches and attempted to go back to the same mold but couldn't replicate whatever element made Harbaugh and Chip winners.
But five other schools made very good hires. And after a disastrous first season Dykes has Cal playing much better in year two.
Finally- LOL USC ever and always.
The net total of an upgrade using your scoring is +1.5.
Considering the fucking dreck the conference added in Colorado and Utah, it's not better off overall than it was five years ago.
Bring back Chip and Harbaugh. Get a real coach at USC.
It's a good start.
The coaching drain is speaking volumes.
Every conference loses coaches.
But the Pac has made some of the best hires in the nation the last few years. Overall the level of coaching is much improved from 3-6 years ago.
2009/2014 comparison UW: Sark/Pete: huge improvement WSU: Wulff/Leach: huge improvement OSU: Riley/Riley: same UO: Chip/Helfrich: big decline Cal: Tedford/Dykes: small decline Stanford: Harbaugh/Shaw: big decline UCLA: Neuheisel/Mora: small improvement USC: Kiffin/Sark: wash Arizona: Stoops/RichRod: huge improvement ASU: Erickson/Graham: small improvement
So yes the two programs that have carried the flag recently lost their elite coaches and attempted to go back to the same mold but couldn't replicate whatever element made Harbaugh and Chip winners.
But five other schools made very good hires. And after a disastrous first season Dykes has Cal playing much better in year two.
Finally- LOL USC ever and always.
The net total of an upgrade using your scoring is +1.5.
Considering the fucking dreck the conference added in Colorado and Utah, it's not better off overall than it was five years ago.
I purposely didn't quantify anything but instead kept it very general. And I was very conservative in my assessments. CP, Leach and RichRod are the biggest changes so if I was going to quantify it I would create a larger scale.
The general idea is that far more schools have improved their coaching staffs than have regressed.
But Helfrich and Shaw, flawed though they are, still aren't awful. The conference doesn't have a Wulff or a Stoops or Erickson in their later years who you could just count on to be completely incompetent. Sark comes closest but his inadequacies will be masked by the talent he has to play with at USC.
Bring back Chip and Harbaugh. Get a real coach at USC.
It's a good start.
The coaching drain is speaking volumes.
Every conference loses coaches.
But the Pac has made some of the best hires in the nation the last few years. Overall the level of coaching is much improved from 3-6 years ago.
2009/2014 comparison UW: Sark/Pete: huge improvement WSU: Wulff/Leach: huge improvement OSU: Riley/Riley: same UO: Chip/Helfrich: big decline Cal: Tedford/Dykes: small decline Stanford: Harbaugh/Shaw: big decline UCLA: Neuheisel/Mora: small improvement USC: Kiffin/Sark: wash Arizona: Stoops/RichRod: huge improvement ASU: Erickson/Graham: small improvement
So yes the two programs that have carried the flag recently lost their elite coaches and attempted to go back to the same mold but couldn't replicate whatever element made Harbaugh and Chip winners.
But five other schools made very good hires. And after a disastrous first season Dykes has Cal playing much better in year two.
Finally- LOL USC ever and always.
The net total of an upgrade using your scoring is +1.5.
Considering the fucking dreck the conference added in Colorado and Utah, it's not better off overall than it was five years ago.
No.
But the rest of CFB is worse.
Then why is the Pac-12's playoff hope fading in the first week of October?
The conference as a whole is better relative to cfb but with no Kelly or Harbaugh it's worse at the top. Topheavy gets the edge for a playoff.
Fuck the whole CFB nation is a dreckfest this year.
Bring back Chip and Harbaugh. Get a real coach at USC.
It's a good start.
The coaching drain is speaking volumes.
Every conference loses coaches.
But the Pac has made some of the best hires in the nation the last few years. Overall the level of coaching is much improved from 3-6 years ago.
2009/2014 comparison UW: Sark/Pete: huge improvement WSU: Wulff/Leach: huge improvement OSU: Riley/Riley: same UO: Chip/Helfrich: big decline Cal: Tedford/Dykes: small decline Stanford: Harbaugh/Shaw: big decline UCLA: Neuheisel/Mora: small improvement USC: Kiffin/Sark: wash Arizona: Stoops/RichRod: huge improvement ASU: Erickson/Graham: small improvement
So yes the two programs that have carried the flag recently lost their elite coaches and attempted to go back to the same mold but couldn't replicate whatever element made Harbaugh and Chip winners.
But five other schools made very good hires. And after a disastrous first season Dykes has Cal playing much better in year two.
Finally- LOL USC ever and always.
The net total of an upgrade using your scoring is +1.5.
Considering the fucking dreck the conference added in Colorado and Utah, it's not better off overall than it was five years ago.
No.
But the rest of CFB is worse.
Then why is the Pac-12's playoff hope fading in the first week of October?
I don't think the Pac's playoff hopes are fading. Whoever wins the conference is a near lock to make the playoffs if they have 2 or fewer losses.
It is true that the conference is weaker at the top but I think its deeper. Only Stanford and USC could challenge Oregon 3-4 years ago.
If the conference has regressed its not due to coaching. I would look at recruiting first. Too many top Cali recruits committing to Oklahoma or SEC schools.
Bring back Chip and Harbaugh. Get a real coach at USC.
It's a good start.
The coaching drain is speaking volumes.
Every conference loses coaches.
But the Pac has made some of the best hires in the nation the last few years. Overall the level of coaching is much improved from 3-6 years ago.
2009/2014 comparison UW: Sark/Pete: huge improvement WSU: Wulff/Leach: huge improvement OSU: Riley/Riley: same UO: Chip/Helfrich: big decline Cal: Tedford/Dykes: small decline Stanford: Harbaugh/Shaw: big decline UCLA: Neuheisel/Mora: small improvement USC: Kiffin/Sark: wash Arizona: Stoops/RichRod: huge improvement ASU: Erickson/Graham: small improvement
So yes the two programs that have carried the flag recently lost their elite coaches and attempted to go back to the same mold but couldn't replicate whatever element made Harbaugh and Chip winners.
But five other schools made very good hires. And after a disastrous first season Dykes has Cal playing much better in year two.
Finally- LOL USC ever and always.
The net total of an upgrade using your scoring is +1.5.
Considering the fucking dreck the conference added in Colorado and Utah, it's not better off overall than it was five years ago.
No.
But the rest of CFB is worse.
Then why is the Pac-12's playoff hope fading in the first week of October?
I don't think the Pac's playoff hopes are fading. Whoever wins the conference is a near lock to make the playoffs if they have 2 or fewer losses.
It is true that the conference is weaker at the top but I think its deeper. Only Stanford and USC could challenge Oregon 3-4 years ago.
If the conference has regressed its not due to coaching. I would look at recruiting first. Too many top Cali recruits committing to Oklahoma or SEC schools.
Bring back Chip and Harbaugh. Get a real coach at USC.
It's a good start.
The coaching drain is speaking volumes.
Every conference loses coaches.
But the Pac has made some of the best hires in the nation the last few years. Overall the level of coaching is much improved from 3-6 years ago.
2009/2014 comparison UW: Sark/Pete: huge improvement WSU: Wulff/Leach: huge improvement OSU: Riley/Riley: same UO: Chip/Helfrich: big decline Cal: Tedford/Dykes: small decline Stanford: Harbaugh/Shaw: big decline UCLA: Neuheisel/Mora: small improvement USC: Kiffin/Sark: wash Arizona: Stoops/RichRod: huge improvement ASU: Erickson/Graham: small improvement
So yes the two programs that have carried the flag recently lost their elite coaches and attempted to go back to the same mold but couldn't replicate whatever element made Harbaugh and Chip winners.
But five other schools made very good hires. And after a disastrous first season Dykes has Cal playing much better in year two.
Finally- LOL USC ever and always.
The net total of an upgrade using your scoring is +1.5.
Considering the fucking dreck the conference added in Colorado and Utah, it's not better off overall than it was five years ago.
No.
But the rest of CFB is worse.
Then why is the Pac-12's playoff hope fading in the first week of October?
I don't think the Pac's playoff hopes are fading. Whoever wins the conference is a near lock to make the playoffs if they have 2 or fewer losses.
It is true that the conference is weaker at the top but I think its deeper. Only Stanford and USC could challenge Oregon 3-4 years ago.
If the conference has regressed its not due to coaching. I would look at recruiting first. Too many top Cali recruits committing to Oklahoma or SEC schools.
Chip is gone, that's why Oregon is being challenged now.
Bring back Chip and Harbaugh. Get a real coach at USC.
It's a good start.
The coaching drain is speaking volumes.
Every conference loses coaches.
But the Pac has made some of the best hires in the nation the last few years. Overall the level of coaching is much improved from 3-6 years ago.
2009/2014 comparison UW: Sark/Pete: huge improvement WSU: Wulff/Leach: huge improvement OSU: Riley/Riley: same UO: Chip/Helfrich: big decline Cal: Tedford/Dykes: small decline Stanford: Harbaugh/Shaw: big decline UCLA: Neuheisel/Mora: small improvement USC: Kiffin/Sark: wash Arizona: Stoops/RichRod: huge improvement ASU: Erickson/Graham: small improvement
So yes the two programs that have carried the flag recently lost their elite coaches and attempted to go back to the same mold but couldn't replicate whatever element made Harbaugh and Chip winners.
But five other schools made very good hires. And after a disastrous first season Dykes has Cal playing much better in year two.
Finally- LOL USC ever and always.
The net total of an upgrade using your scoring is +1.5.
Considering the fucking dreck the conference added in Colorado and Utah, it's not better off overall than it was five years ago.
No.
But the rest of CFB is worse.
Then why is the Pac-12's playoff hope fading in the first week of October?
I don't think the Pac's playoff hopes are fading. Whoever wins the conference is a near lock to make the playoffs if they have 2 or fewer losses.
It is true that the conference is weaker at the top but I think its deeper. Only Stanford and USC could challenge Oregon 3-4 years ago.
If the conference has regressed its not due to coaching. I would look at recruiting first. Too many top Cali recruits committing to Oklahoma or SEC schools.
Chip is gone, that's why Oregon is being challenged now.
And because Arizona, WSU and UCLA (next week) are no longer complete pushovers.
Bring back Chip and Harbaugh. Get a real coach at USC.
It's a good start.
The coaching drain is speaking volumes.
Every conference loses coaches.
But the Pac has made some of the best hires in the nation the last few years. Overall the level of coaching is much improved from 3-6 years ago.
2009/2014 comparison UW: Sark/Pete: huge improvement WSU: Wulff/Leach: huge improvement OSU: Riley/Riley: same UO: Chip/Helfrich: big decline Cal: Tedford/Dykes: small decline Stanford: Harbaugh/Shaw: big decline UCLA: Neuheisel/Mora: small improvement USC: Kiffin/Sark: wash Arizona: Stoops/RichRod: huge improvement ASU: Erickson/Graham: small improvement
So yes the two programs that have carried the flag recently lost their elite coaches and attempted to go back to the same mold but couldn't replicate whatever element made Harbaugh and Chip winners.
But five other schools made very good hires. And after a disastrous first season Dykes has Cal playing much better in year two.
Finally- LOL USC ever and always.
The net total of an upgrade using your scoring is +1.5.
Considering the fucking dreck the conference added in Colorado and Utah, it's not better off overall than it was five years ago.
No.
But the rest of CFB is worse.
Then why is the Pac-12's playoff hope fading in the first week of October?
I don't think the Pac's playoff hopes are fading. Whoever wins the conference is a near lock to make the playoffs if they have 2 or fewer losses.
It is true that the conference is weaker at the top but I think its deeper. Only Stanford and USC could challenge Oregon 3-4 years ago.
If the conference has regressed its not due to coaching. I would look at recruiting first. Too many top Cali recruits committing to Oklahoma or SEC schools.
Chip is gone, that's why Oregon is being challenged now.
And because Arizona, WSU and UCLA (next week) are no longer complete pushovers.
Bring back Chip and Harbaugh. Get a real coach at USC.
It's a good start.
The coaching drain is speaking volumes.
Every conference loses coaches.
But the Pac has made some of the best hires in the nation the last few years. Overall the level of coaching is much improved from 3-6 years ago.
2009/2014 comparison UW: Sark/Pete: huge improvement WSU: Wulff/Leach: huge improvement OSU: Riley/Riley: same UO: Chip/Helfrich: big decline Cal: Tedford/Dykes: small decline Stanford: Harbaugh/Shaw: big decline UCLA: Neuheisel/Mora: small improvement USC: Kiffin/Sark: wash Arizona: Stoops/RichRod: huge improvement ASU: Erickson/Graham: small improvement
So yes the two programs that have carried the flag recently lost their elite coaches and attempted to go back to the same mold but couldn't replicate whatever element made Harbaugh and Chip winners.
But five other schools made very good hires. And after a disastrous first season Dykes has Cal playing much better in year two.
Finally- LOL USC ever and always.
The net total of an upgrade using your scoring is +1.5.
Considering the fucking dreck the conference added in Colorado and Utah, it's not better off overall than it was five years ago.
No.
But the rest of CFB is worse.
Then why is the Pac-12's playoff hope fading in the first week of October?
I don't think the Pac's playoff hopes are fading. Whoever wins the conference is a near lock to make the playoffs if they have 2 or fewer losses.
It is true that the conference is weaker at the top but I think its deeper. Only Stanford and USC could challenge Oregon 3-4 years ago.
If the conference has regressed its not due to coaching. I would look at recruiting first. Too many top Cali recruits committing to Oklahoma or SEC schools.
Chip is gone, that's why Oregon is being challenged now.
And because Arizona, WSU and UCLA (next week) are no longer complete pushovers.
Bring back Chip and Harbaugh. Get a real coach at USC.
It's a good start.
The coaching drain is speaking volumes.
Every conference loses coaches.
But the Pac has made some of the best hires in the nation the last few years. Overall the level of coaching is much improved from 3-6 years ago.
2009/2014 comparison UW: Sark/Pete: huge improvement WSU: Wulff/Leach: huge improvement OSU: Riley/Riley: same UO: Chip/Helfrich: big decline Cal: Tedford/Dykes: small decline Stanford: Harbaugh/Shaw: big decline UCLA: Neuheisel/Mora: small improvement USC: Kiffin/Sark: wash Arizona: Stoops/RichRod: huge improvement ASU: Erickson/Graham: small improvement
So yes the two programs that have carried the flag recently lost their elite coaches and attempted to go back to the same mold but couldn't replicate whatever element made Harbaugh and Chip winners.
But five other schools made very good hires. And after a disastrous first season Dykes has Cal playing much better in year two.
Finally- LOL USC ever and always.
The net total of an upgrade using your scoring is +1.5.
Considering the fucking dreck the conference added in Colorado and Utah, it's not better off overall than it was five years ago.
No.
But the rest of CFB is worse.
Then why is the Pac-12's playoff hope fading in the first week of October?
I don't think the Pac's playoff hopes are fading. Whoever wins the conference is a near lock to make the playoffs if they have 2 or fewer losses.
It is true that the conference is weaker at the top but I think its deeper. Only Stanford and USC could challenge Oregon 3-4 years ago.
If the conference has regressed its not due to coaching. I would look at recruiting first. Too many top Cali recruits committing to Oklahoma or SEC schools.
Chip is gone, that's why Oregon is being challenged now.
And because Arizona, WSU and UCLA (next week) are no longer complete pushovers.
Bring back Chip and Harbaugh. Get a real coach at USC.
It's a good start.
The coaching drain is speaking volumes.
Every conference loses coaches.
But the Pac has made some of the best hires in the nation the last few years. Overall the level of coaching is much improved from 3-6 years ago.
2009/2014 comparison UW: Sark/Pete: huge improvement WSU: Wulff/Leach: huge improvement OSU: Riley/Riley: same UO: Chip/Helfrich: big decline Cal: Tedford/Dykes: small decline Stanford: Harbaugh/Shaw: big decline UCLA: Neuheisel/Mora: small improvement USC: Kiffin/Sark: wash Arizona: Stoops/RichRod: huge improvement ASU: Erickson/Graham: small improvement
So yes the two programs that have carried the flag recently lost their elite coaches and attempted to go back to the same mold but couldn't replicate whatever element made Harbaugh and Chip winners.
But five other schools made very good hires. And after a disastrous first season Dykes has Cal playing much better in year two.
Finally- LOL USC ever and always.
The net total of an upgrade using your scoring is +1.5.
Considering the fucking dreck the conference added in Colorado and Utah, it's not better off overall than it was five years ago.
No.
But the rest of CFB is worse.
Then why is the Pac-12's playoff hope fading in the first week of October?
I don't think the Pac's playoff hopes are fading. Whoever wins the conference is a near lock to make the playoffs if they have 2 or fewer losses.
It is true that the conference is weaker at the top but I think its deeper. Only Stanford and USC could challenge Oregon 3-4 years ago.
If the conference has regressed its not due to coaching. I would look at recruiting first. Too many top Cali recruits committing to Oklahoma or SEC schools.
Chip is gone, that's why Oregon is being challenged now.
And because Arizona, WSU and UCLA (next week) are no longer complete pushovers.
Bring back Chip and Harbaugh. Get a real coach at USC.
It's a good start.
The coaching drain is speaking volumes.
Every conference loses coaches.
But the Pac has made some of the best hires in the nation the last few years. Overall the level of coaching is much improved from 3-6 years ago.
2009/2014 comparison UW: Sark/Pete: huge improvement WSU: Wulff/Leach: huge improvement OSU: Riley/Riley: same UO: Chip/Helfrich: big decline Cal: Tedford/Dykes: small decline Stanford: Harbaugh/Shaw: big decline UCLA: Neuheisel/Mora: small improvement USC: Kiffin/Sark: wash Arizona: Stoops/RichRod: huge improvement ASU: Erickson/Graham: small improvement
So yes the two programs that have carried the flag recently lost their elite coaches and attempted to go back to the same mold but couldn't replicate whatever element made Harbaugh and Chip winners.
But five other schools made very good hires. And after a disastrous first season Dykes has Cal playing much better in year two.
Finally- LOL USC ever and always.
The net total of an upgrade using your scoring is +1.5.
Considering the fucking dreck the conference added in Colorado and Utah, it's not better off overall than it was five years ago.
No.
But the rest of CFB is worse.
Then why is the Pac-12's playoff hope fading in the first week of October?
I don't think the Pac's playoff hopes are fading. Whoever wins the conference is a near lock to make the playoffs if they have 2 or fewer losses.
It is true that the conference is weaker at the top but I think its deeper. Only Stanford and USC could challenge Oregon 3-4 years ago.
If the conference has regressed its not due to coaching. I would look at recruiting first. Too many top Cali recruits committing to Oklahoma or SEC schools.
Chip is gone, that's why Oregon is being challenged now.
And because Arizona, WSU and UCLA (next week) are no longer complete pushovers.
No, because Oregon is average now.
2011 final Sagarin ratings:
UO- 2nd
Arizona- 64th UCLA- 66th WSU- 83rd
2014 prior to this week: UO- 3rd
UCLA- 6th Arizona- 34th WSU- 53rd.
Sagarin SUCKS, especially early in the season.
Then bring something else to the table other than shit opinions.
Any ranking system you can find will show the same thing: there were a number of extremely shitty teams in the Pac 3+ years ago. Arizona, ASU, UCLA, WSU...all improved massively.
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But the rest of CFB is worse.
I purposely didn't quantify anything but instead kept it very general. And I was very conservative in my assessments. CP, Leach and RichRod are the biggest changes so if I was going to quantify it I would create a larger scale.
The general idea is that far more schools have improved their coaching staffs than have regressed.
But Helfrich and Shaw, flawed though they are, still aren't awful. The conference doesn't have a Wulff or a Stoops or Erickson in their later years who you could just count on to be completely incompetent. Sark comes closest but his inadequacies will be masked by the talent he has to play with at USC.
Fuck the whole CFB nation is a dreckfest this year.
I don't think the Pac's playoff hopes are fading. Whoever wins the conference is a near lock to make the playoffs if they have 2 or fewer losses.
It is true that the conference is weaker at the top but I think its deeper. Only Stanford and USC could challenge Oregon 3-4 years ago.
If the conference has regressed its not due to coaching. I would look at recruiting first. Too many top Cali recruits committing to Oklahoma or SEC schools.
And because Arizona, WSU and UCLA (next week) are no longer complete pushovers.
2011 final Sagarin ratings:
UO- 2nd
Arizona- 64th
UCLA- 66th
WSU- 83rd
2014 prior to this week:
UO- 3rd
UCLA- 6th
Arizona- 34th
WSU- 53rd.
Then bring something else to the table other than shit opinions.
Any ranking system you can find will show the same thing: there were a number of extremely shitty teams in the Pac 3+ years ago. Arizona, ASU, UCLA, WSU...all improved massively.